Trench Cut at a Working Apartment Fire
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- A structure fire was reported at around 6 a.m. in the 800 block of Fairview Avenue at the Kenwood Apartments in Arcadia, California. Firefighters arrived minutes later to find a portion of the structure's roof engulfed in flames. - ABC7 (KABC) Firefighters attempt to ventilate and contain a fast moving structure fire with limited access and water.
It’s refreshing to hear a news caster that actually somewhat understands structure fire operations. I was just waiting for “The fireman are going on the roof to search for lost victims from above” or something of that sort, but for the most part this guy understands what he sees and does over dramatize it. More news employees should take notes from this guy.
This reporter has been covering the Los Angeles area for decades and really knows tactics for both FD and PD
For sure.
helicopter news dude actually knows a bit about firefighting. i'm kinda impressed.
Much better than the endless useless yapping by newscasters.
More like a commentator on a YT video who is a toxic asshat and a low brow conspiracy nutjob... (and in this case has a name starting with Bezzle)... and opens his cakehole to attack others far more intelligent....
Bezzle Bedeviled lolwut
The reporter in the helo uses an old term "HOOK and ladder," which has not been used in the firefighting profession for a very long time. A friend of mine was on the Glendale, CA fire department for 30 years, most of it on trucks and he doesn't even know where the term "hook and ladder" came from or what historically was the "hook."
There are helicopter carry gallons of water n the city should them for this fires because I seen FF on the roof doing nothing..
You made many great points! The removal of a exit for those guys on the roof was a carer suicidal move if not neglect of that individual! 😳
Very composed and intelligent news reporter.
Note that the fire appears to be contained/restricted to the roof space. In many cases even when the living spaces are covered by a sprinkler system, the area under the roof is often not, either because, either due both due to cost and that the sprinkler system is part of the "Life Safety System," or, in more northerly climes, the unheated area is not covered because of the danger of freezing, the roof is not covered. In newer buildings, building codes often require sprinkler systems are now required to cover the entire structure.
NFPA 13
Wow! Badass! 3 person truck crew doing work! These three just busted their ass you don’t know how much work that was.
Its called their job. No big deal.
Shane Johnson you’ve obviously never done this. I guess no one ever praises you for cooking French fries. Thank you for your service.
@@shanejohnson996 You clearly have no idea what hard work is. Those guys had to wear 60 pounds of gear including their SCBA standing near fire that is about 750 degrees told to complete a dangerous task (The trench cut) with only 3 guys! Not to mention that fire moves fast so they didn't have much time. And you get winded fast from punching the holes over and over again. You would pass out at the thought of 7 ft tall fire 5 feet away from you.
You guys truly have no idea what I have ar haven't done. I am not here to tell smoke stories. I am merely saying that if you are on the truck it is your job. If you can't do it then get off the truck. Quit thinking you are a hero for doing your job. It is what is expected of you if you are on the truck. Do your job and quit comparing the shinyness of your tools.
Wow internet heroes. A bunch of posers. Go do some more online training.
The science and technology of trenching a roof to cut off the fire's path of advance is one of the best offensive fire fighting actions which can be employed to suppress a fire which has extended into an attic area of a long building. But trenching a roof must be done in a quick and knowledgable manner by a crew of firefighters who are properly trained and skilled at/in the procedure.
In this attempt, (1) three FF's were far too few men to be making the cut (2) the crew took far too long to decide where the first cut should be made allowing the fire to get far to close to the trench they finally decided to cut (3) the trenching crew began a second trench but quickly stopped which allowed the fire to advance even faster because the new hole gave the fire more oxygen drawing the fire forward (4) the ground ladder was only one way to get off of the roof when no less than 2 are required (5) the two most important of all the mistakes made, there was no charged line(s) on the roof charged and ready to suppress the advancing fire once it reached the trench (6) some idiot crew on the ground actually removed the only escape route (ground ladder) from the roof after giving the trenching crew a dead handline
Conclusion : Three firefighters risk their lives and worked their asses off, but it was all for naught, because (1) they were not properly trained in the art of trenching a roof (2) the officer who ordered the trenching to be done never ordered at least 2 handline crews onto the roof to protect and support the trenching crew and to suppress the fire by forming a fire curtain once the trenching was completed.
Note : The science behind trenching is to first have a sufficient number of handlines or aerial towers directly at the cut trench to make a water curtain completely across the entire roof into the building from side to side and thereby cutting off the fire's advance. It's not a thing of fighting the fire via the trench, its the idea of stopping the advance of the fire by cutting the fire off from all further fuel it needs to burn on.
I am still appalled, dumbfounded and in complete disbelief that some idiot actually removed the only escape avenue for the crew working on the roof, IMO, that person(s) should be fired. The three-man crew of firefighters on the roof are to be commended for the actions that they took.
The Shadow
There was no need to vent the roof! It was already vented. The only thing that happened was it caused the fire to spread even farther. You see it’s a combination of things. One major contribution is wet stuff on the red stuff. Ventilation is used to control the fire when the fire has not vented it self. Otherwise you’re opening up a hole for the fire to travel to to gain more oxygen to burn everything in its path.
I have an idea. Do none of the things you suggested and put water on all that burning stuff with Deck Guns and 2.5" lines. Arch the water up and over and onto all that exposed material. You may have heard about that. It's called, "Put the damn fire out," instead of playing with it to get off." Go ask your mother if you should climb onto the roof of a burning building to perform a tactic that common sense and logic prove to be useless.
@@JB91710 First. You need to read my posted comment with better comprehension because your remarks are simply wrong. I did not suggest anything whatsoever concerning this fire and how it should be fought, suppressed, and extinguished as you state that I did. Second I don't converse with my mother any longer and have not since 1989 when she passed away. Third, I don't need to ask anyone about firefighting, inasmuch, as I retired from a major 1st Class Fire Department on the East Coast after 30 years. 8 months, and 16 days on June 1st 1993
@@theshadow4292 If you didn't suggest how it should be faught then you wasted the skin on your finger tips. You praised the most ridiculous tactic since Vertical Venting which proves you have no clue what real firefighting is. Read My comments and actually Think about what I say. Also, it doesn't matter how long you did something, it only matters how well you did it. You have proved your career was a waste of taxpayers money. Trench cut, yeah, right. Worked well on this fire. It wouldn't have spread that fast if they left it alone.
Ventilating a roof is an inexact science just like hypertension.
Nice job, takes a good, well trained and efficient ladder crew to make a quick trench cut. Usually have two truck companies if ay all possible, its pure heavy jackass work but worth it when it works.
Looks like there is an engine company inside starting to hit the fire from below, you can see the handlines stream shoot out a few holes i tge roof. A good sign, getting water on the fire to help check the extension in the attic.
Ive made a number of these trench cuts on row homes during my career of 26 years on a ladder company, (driver of a 100ft TDA) in an old northeast city career FD.
Anyway, most important thing is, everyone goes home after the jobs done.
Stay safe my brothers! 👍💪💪💪👍
Amazing how firefighters are like artists/technicians when they tackle a blaze. They gotta find the best spots to work from and start getting it under control. God bless these guys
This is a perfect example of a fire break wall between apartments.
Truckies are badass, No doubt ! The biggest problem with apartment buildings is attics are often built without fire partitions. The Captain and two firefighters did an outstanding job !
Or internal sprinkler systems
I am a bit surprised with the limited access that they didn't take a line up on the other unit to get a stream on the original part and collapsed roof.
How can you live so close to people like that . man between my air compressor and my go carts. I would pis people off . i feel lucky to have space around my house .
There are thousands of these mid century apartment buildings all over California, built before strong fire codes were in place, and before a lot of thought was given to access. Difficult to fight these. Firemen did the right thing.
Good to have a fire dept that actually fights fires. Way to go guys. Excellent Job.
I feel for these firefighters on that roof. They don't have enough true resources for any ability to use as a tactic. They need several good ladder operations with water supply unaffected just from this one view. There could be several things going on that I in my comfy bed don't know or see. These are difficult to do, let alone properly! These guys on this roof are brave!
Man, I long for the days when fire-walls were walls to fire that also extended outside the flammable material... like beyond soffetting and roof. Brick things that sometimes stayed up even when everything around them burned down.
Firefighters are great people.....
Why does every person flying a helicopter sound exactly the same
Because they are! LOL
The type of headphones and mic
audio systems on the helo filter out broad ranges of noise, so you learn to talk in the range that comes through best
They were well behind the 8 ball when they arrived on scene. Might not have been perfect but made a decent stop once they gained access.
We're always behind the 8 ball, we never get to be there waiting for the fire to start unless we're training .
Or very rarely get there early enough it doesn't get that out of control.
Plus it likes 50 plus yards from the trucks to building that’s on fire.
The moment I saw this I thought "Where's Daniel and Mr. Miyagi." It sure looks like the apartment they were in
That building was probably put up before building codes were enacted and enforced.
Those firefighters did what they could with what they had available to them. So I find no fault here.
Yeah there were no building codes in the 1980s
Must not be any building codes in California,every square foot has a building on it.or a parking lot.
Most of these apartments and strip malls have what is known as a common attic. That is attics with no "fire stops" These are walls that go from the ground to the roof and cut off advancement of fires to a smaller area. Easier to fight the fire and help to prevent what you see here. Should be made mandatory for all buildings. Also put fire suppression units like we have in restaurants in the homes. No need for water which is the most damaging of all fire fighting materials. Use CO2 (carbon dioxide) other gas. Just my 2 cents worth.
Those guys worked their asses off. Great job. But why d did it appear that the trench cut attracted the flames towards it? Is that the purpose? Or is the cut meant to vent and act as a fire block?
It's been awhile since you asked this
A trench cut Isn't going to stop fire spread, it is just buying some time.
That code should be changed. they have way too many buildings jammed in there with NO fire fighting access.
Maybe it was grandfathered in.
there are probable no fire walls between units either, at least not block or concrete fire walls. Alot of places let them use double wall fire rated sheet rock but that shit aint stopping a fire like this.
Regardless of what they have between apartments they CLEARLY don't have any firewalls in the attic. Even if they just put drywall up in just 3 or 4 places in the attic it would at least slow the progress of the fire.
They're not going to use brittle materials like concrete or block in California! That will crumble in a earthquake guaranteed!
@@4nciite Could you please explain, I'm a firefighter from Poland, Europe. They are not allowed to use such materials like concrete or they don't use them because they fear the earthquakes? If the latter, is the fear justified?
@@FLMSTR It's nearly impossible for concrete to hold up to a strong quake unless the building foundation is built on springs like they use in high rises, the continued occurrence of small earthquakes also poses a problem for anything made out of concrete, bridges and whatnot are constantly inspected, for a single family residence it would be a lot of trouble. A wood frame has no problem withstanding most earthquakes as the wood can flex to great extremes. FWIW the London Tower was built entirely out of concrete and steel and still burnt down completely.
@@FLMSTR I live in a Concrete Block House here in Arizona and a Sonic Boom from an F16 cracked a small portion of the wall and that's just a tiny fraction of the force of a small earthquake, the whole damn house would be cracked if not falling down by now if we had earthquakes.
New York style warm eviction. New building will have more units and double the rent.
Although somewhat racist, I have also heard the term "Jewish lightning".
6:50 On the top side of the screen, where the police car stands, couldnt they just drive a Tower Ladder or something in backwards?
JackMacLupus this is an Arcadia which Arcadia Fire Department doesn't have a tower ladder and none of the other departments around the area do if I'm correct.
JackMacLupus they do have a ladder truck but not a tower one
Okay then a normal ladder, if i remember right normal ladders can spray water too.
Looks to me they didn't want to go defensive. They wanted to save as much of the building as the could. You are ("can't" )not supposed to flow master streams with people working inside. You could hit them of cause collapse trapping them inside.
There are power/utility lines in the way.
That flashover starting at 5:30 is insane
A few times in the same situation we would put two 2 1/2 lines in the apartments before the active fire and shoot up thru the ceilings with a straight stream swinging nozzle back and forth against the trusses. This pushes the gasses the heat and flames away from the non burnt areas. Yes both work but the oxygen pulls the fire faster toward the Trench cut. The Firefighters aren't in anymore danger and in my opinion puts the fire out with less loss. No roof ops no tower ops no setup just pull the lines and go to work fire is in check. What do you think
Here in Poland we are quite confused by this trench cut method. Is it not leading to a rapid fire development? What is the advantage?
Eryk basically you trench cut a major fast moving fire to stop the advancing fire by getting rid of the super heated gasses and a majority of the heat. It works great but the Fire can run faster that you cut and can jump your cut. I had a very aggressive fire chief that thought of instead of a trench cut we just took two 2.5inch @ max 500 gpm each, in front of the fire in the rooms ahead of the fire then shoot up thru the ceiling hitting the trusses and roof line to push the fire back towards the already burnt area.
The way they are fighting this fire it lets all the heat/gasses past them fighting it from above on the roof even with the trench... too much heat and not enough water!
Our tactics we would save about 2/3rds of the apartments by using our model and the fire is stopped in about 3 minutes ( I've done it myself time and time again) while other departments are in a defensive attack and burn down the building we were super aggressive in attacking fires. Of course a concrete wall for a fire stop would have been nice to but, the builders are cheap and don't want the extra expense or a sprinkler system in the roof either way
@@FD-E-St-Fire Thank you for such a response. I guess your method is just what we do. This trench cut thing seems way too risky but it's the only thing we are not to implement anytime soon. The rest of your (United States) job in developing fire tactics deserves admiration, and you have it here sir :)
Why not have a hose on the opposite roof? They could have fought it from the roof top.
I also don't understand it, can smn explain?
@ 0:21 "whats the name of the apartment complex... The Kenwood... no the Burntwood "
The Acadia Fire Dept.Knocked The Fire Down For The Most Part.
The truck guys are the badasses of the firemen
Why aren’t they blasting water onto the roof from the pool?
Why would they when they had perfectly good hydrant supply?
@@virgilhilts3924 The engines couldn’t get close enough to pump more than 2 hoses because the building was built before there were fire codes requiring access.
@@ryanlipple6854
You have no clue what you are talking about
I see 4 engines and one truck, the hose on the roof tactic is dangerous even more so as they are still offensive with interior attack at the same time
Its all dangerous bud
It’s a trench cut remember? A strictly defensive tactic. One of the only times that you should shoot water in a vent hole
It’s like fighting a basement fire from the floor above. Lightweight construction and camping two crews on roof with heavy fire below and we wonder why we keep killing guys.
There is a point where a trench cut works. In front of the fire to prevent the spread of fuel. Not directly over the fire, and not trying to attack the fire from overhead while standing on trusses that are failing.
awesome job men
Tough location. Tough fire. It seems like the roof team might have been too far ahead of the hose team. More likely the hose team was too far behind the fire/roof team.
What they really needed was an Ariel truck to hit it from above, impressed they got a house up to the roof like that
Tough location to get a ladder in there looks like
Who else loves that he refers to them as hook and ladders! He’s old school!
Should build fire brakes in all roof spaces could stopped this fare a lot faster .
Ahhh! I see the Firemen are inside, attempting to knock the fire down, while the support crew, for the firemen are on the roof. Luv those firemen supporters!
I hated chasing fire through old apartment buildings. I think I would have pulled that crew off the roof after the first cut. Too much fire under an old roof. Just my opinion. It sucks to jump an apartment fire that short handed. Stay safe out there. Regards from Texas. 29 years, retired.
hows about giving the firefighters a waterline on the roof instead of them causing more damage to the roof
Can,t understand why a direct jet which throws debris everywhere, why not a narrow high spray which better cools more surface, and the foam maker would be helpful.
Look at the Champions.. Professionals. Just Wondering.. by opening the roof you allow more Oxygen to assist the fire,/ Combustion..?? Safety wise,, these Legendary Fire crews are unsafe on the roof anyway, vent ? ?? are they allowing more oxygen in which in-turn increases the fire...just wondering ??.. ... Get em off the Roof.. attack the 2nd or 1st floor, where the fire is most intense. .why go up n over .. the front doors are open ..!?
Doing so releases smoke and heat which vastly improves working conditions on the interior
They find the cause?
seems to me all the access/vent holes in the roof do is cause the fire to spread faster as it rushes towards the vent.
Stopping the fire.
it allows the extreme heat and smoke to escape making it much safer for the firefighters inside. If they did not cut, the guys inside could not see or stand the heat. To the untrained eye it looks like they are causing more damage but you have to be realistic and realize with how fast that fire is moving you have to sacrifice whats already gone to prevent the spread any further
@@wesworld98 say what you will, but, every fire i have ever seen has gotten 10x worse the second they start opening those holes in the roof. in most cases the building goes from a moderate fire to a total loss of the building as a result of it.
Matt Itter 1) it has to be done right and with rapid application of water 2) you do not understand how hot an unventilated fully involved room is. 3) those with the fire science degrees know a little more than you
Three years later this structure is still not rebuilt. Aerial view from Google maps shows that the whole city of Arcadia is one big firetrap. Dense construction with no access for firefighting personnel. The only plus is that they have cut down all the trees. No wildfires in Arcadia. Isn't California where all the tree huggers live? Most of Los Angeles is like this. How people can live on top of each other like that is beyond me.
if they could have got lines to the opposing apartments roof it probably would have helped immensely. they may have not had any hookups left.
13 minutes into the fire and they finally got a second crew up there? Roof operations require more resources than 3 people. On top of that, the strip cut didn’t seem well coordinated with interior crews. They cut these holes, introduced oxygen, drew the fire to them, and now they’re backing up with a single hoseline trying to suppress the fire from the roof. Just weird for an LA department
Why don't they put water on it
They were
Because they called the fire department, they should have called the department of fire extinguishing.
Que linda imagem cara profissional câmera
the city planners and code enforcement need to do a better job making a way for firetrucks to get in to fight fires like this...
Code Enforcement has NOTHING to do with building codes.
Would’ve been a great view to see a bucket spray some water down on that thing
In our dept, and it’s mostly the same in other departments, aerial platform or master streams are used when the entire structure is a total loss and never when there are crews inside. Even so, it looks to be out of reach of any aerial platform. But I suppose they could have done an aerial drop. XD
They don’t know what a tower ladder is on the west coast.
How are they going to get the water on the fire from the ladder? It's on the back side of the structure with no access for a truck except on the front (extremely bad attack angle)
I'm thinkin 3.4 helicopter drops...slow that thing down.
Please take a close look at the scene and tell us where you set it up.
Where is the water? If you want to know how to make a fire spread easier, take note of this trench cutting. The pressurized gasses escape, they draw the fire toward the trench while igniting all the flammable gasses along the way. You are watching Tactics being used with no thought of the outcome.
Then, guess what happens! Those new flames increase the temperature of the suffocating gasses farther down the attic and eventually they ignite also. What those firefighters on the roof could have done, is spotted for hose streams arching over the building and onto all that burning material.
What you saw her was arson, not firefighting.
Good ole JB once again blowing his hole and proving that he has never spent even a single day as an actual firefighter
if water a problem why not pump it out of the pool. about a 40,000 gallon pool.
Terek White how do you get the pumper next to the pool ? Long hose lays but as you could see by the streams water pressure was not a problem
Terek white is an expert firefighter without even doing the job way to go bud.
Why they were not on the bldg to the left and fighting the fire from there?
Because their job was to vent the roof.
Dam that place burned better than my fireplace.
Why take the ladder from the roof operations?
They just repositioned the ladder.
Nice job
Estos tipos no son servidores publicos,son heroes q viven para servir a los ciudadanos en desgracia.Un reconocimiento a todos los q se sacrifican por los demad
As always, plenty of “experts” in the comments saying how everything is being done wrong.
Not everything more than less just coordination. Truck just opened a trench before engines were ready to hold it in the non-involved units and created another flowpath for fire to run the attic.
Those truckies are so excited to finally get to be on the nozzle
Ok I lied, this is the last comment. That was a bang up stop. It was chasing them but once they got a little help up there they were able to stop it dead. Nice.
Cannot understand why, once a line is on the roof why it is not used continuously to dampen down the fir. The line is constantly shut of and laid down while they open up another break line despite at least two FF being free? The only thing that puts fires out is WATER!!!!!!!
The line on the roof was not effective and wasnt going to be. The thing is the fire was running the attic especially with additional flow paths introduced by each additional cut created by the roof crew past the original vent created by the fire itself. Spraying in from the roof was not productive because they were spraying into a higher concentration of fire that was venting. The roof line was never making an impact and wasnt going to. Had they positioned engine crews in units that were not yet involved on the second floor with truck companys opening the ceiling ahead of the fire they could have made a stop much sooner.
@@itrysrsly1826 Many thanks for your input. Sounds from what you say that the efforts were somewhat misguided. Cheers
Their apartment was on fire last month on Richard Land in Ceres
They must be doing an insurance fraud scheme to make money these people need to be put in Alcatraz prison when they reopen it that way they can put all the crooked politicians of ca in there that way nothing else gets destroyed or burned down cause of their ignorance or being a narcissistic idiot
Mic breathing is fun
Good truck work
First off, the design of the complex itself violates fire code.
Second, who denied drafting from the swimming pool?
Shaofu Chang they don't do that here in California plus California is also in a drought again so
The buildings themselves. There is no vehicle access to the pool area.
Shaofu Chang
Can you explain how you going to get a apparatus in there?
Getting a truck in there denied it
Do American appliances not have portable pumps? In Scotland we carry two portable pumps on every appliance (one is the size of a pretty small generator, one takes 4 guys to carry) which is pretty handy in a case like this. We could have an LPP pumping from the pool directly onto the fire in maybe 5 mins after arrival.
100 men and one hose, wow.
Not even close to 100 men
Maybe 30 firefighters and I counted at least 3 maybe 4 hoselines in operation. Just cause you can't see them working doesn't mean they are are not.
Still could of put 4 hoses on the roof
Brian Keith why would you do that instead of where the source of the fire is?
Not a really good idea to put a bunch of people on a roof when the fire is burning below you. If you meaning they should be getting water on the fire from above then maybe putting a crew on the building next to it in the complex and using that location as a master stream might work depending on the size of the crew and how much water is available.
Sometimes I wish the firemen could have a view like the helo has. If they could see what we saw, the water might have gotten where it needed to go a bit quicker. Concrete slab between stories is a wonderful thing.
Concrete slabs are a wonderful way to die a very quick death in an earthquake!!
It is too bad they didn't have a wetline up with the roof venters sooner. A bunch of fog squirts through those test holes would have vastly slowed down the spread.
Why are these guys venting a building that vented itself very well. I would never allow anyone on these poorly constructed buildings. Get a head of the fire and cut it off. Go into ceilings ahead of the Fire and place your lines in the direction of the attic. This works wonders, wet stuff on the red stuff. Now that they open the roof they have drawn the far towards them. It’s time to get off the roof and fight fire gentleman. By the way you never get on the roof and perform ventilation without a charged attack line. Completely wrong!!!
always amazing why those buildings have no fire walls.
They do
Put water directly on that fire. That’s conventional construction. If you’re going to make a strip, make it near that fire. The darn thing made its own “strip.”
Water doesn't get to the fire due to extremely high temperatures. Water just evaporats
@@sonyasever7625 ever tried to put out a fire with a 2 1/2” hose line with a 1 1/2” smooth bore tip with 600 gallons of water in 60 seconds?
Cutting trenches before having water on the fire only brings the fire to the access (trench) point. Bringing water to the roof instead of cutting it off from the inside, 2nd floor apartment, is very dangerous, too. For others watching, learn from these older tactic mistakes and go home after your shift. Signed, 30 years of firefighting experience, Captain, Training Officer.
Older complex, no fire stops; write off this complex (complete loss). Protect exposures. No injuries? = Great work people!
Appears they started using foam about half way through. Great idea!
yep this was a total loss before the crews even showed up, and to the people that keep mentioning their stuff in the apartments, it sucks but you under no circumstances risk someones life for something that can be replaced
At 1:40 into the video a stream blows through the roof, pretty sure they had water on the fire before they cut the roof.
Actually, the entire building still stands to this day and has been renovated. Other than the involved units and water damage, most high valued personal items were saved. Call it what you will, 30 years of experience or not. I'd be disappointed and unsatisfied if you responded to my home and "wrote it off" just like that. Confidence, training , and knowledge doesn't always get you 100%. FYI. the trench supported enough time in the fires progression where the inside crews got a handle on it. BAD execution on top and interior but the job was done safely
I know we are called brave, courageous, and sometimes heroes....but we've all had those oops I almost shit myself moments. Before everyone else got up onto the roof, if you look closely you can see the legs of the guy on the tip getting a little twitchy and shaky. He knows wth is up and he just about got a face full of flash when that one hole reignited.
i hope these people had rental insurance
The initial firefighters on the roof didn't even have 2 means of egress.
Positive pressure
No Sprinkler system
This incident screams bad incident command. There were options in this fire to better contain and control, but they simply did not use it. As far as the guys operating the trench cut, the first attempt took way too long, and fire traveled too fast in that time. Trench cuts are a difficult task, with no time for lag. Lots of learning available from this. FYI the setbacks and restrictions for access could have been improved. You have residents standing outside by their cars. Im sure some could have been moved.
Water must be very expensive in the States.
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What is a trenchcut??
When they saw into the roof to try and create a fire break or at least vent the roof and get the smoke out.
Thank you for your answer xx
Nach 10 Minuten beginnen diese ihre Arbeit, mit Leichtschaum-Löschwasser!
It's been renamed to "The Firewood"...
А они тушить вообще пробовали ? Расковыряли крышу, чтобы воздуху удобней было попадать к месту горения и ходят по крыше. Пожарный рукав только через 10 минут записи подтянули, но даже из него пару раз брызнули и успокоились, наблюдая как оно само догорает.
Det skulle vara intressant att höra från en svensk brandman hans analys av detta klipp! Jag kan inte förstå varför brandmännen inte sätter in vatten direkt. Istället springer de om kring som yra höns och husen brinner ner till grunden....... varenda gång.
That is one way to get rid of roaches.
Sory,..terlalu lambat ,tidak secepat dalam latihannya,terkesan membiarkan apinya
Ok last comment, promise. LOL A lot of these videos I sit with my jaw on the floor in disbelief that a department can do things so ridiculous. This one is pissing me off because they are running out of room and I don't see any, but there's only 1 way to get down. I hope they can jump the gap with all of that gear on.
Limited water supply ? What is that green thing in the courtyard ? I'll bet there is several thousand gallons in that thing !
How are they supposed to get to it to draft ?
Ya with about 60m feet of hard suction hose.
Not all departments utilize hard suction. My department has 60 feet of it and we use it, my neighboring department does not carry it.
Not to mention it would hinder escaping residents, and the engine could become an exposure if the fire keeps advancing. An elevated master device would be the best option, but limited resources just sucks
This is California. They are in drought a lot.
Segitu banyak nya petugas eggk ada yg nyemprot api yg kecil"pinggiran itu..
Cutting the vent was a very effective technique
sean carroll
Why was the roof vented? It was already vented. The only thing they done was to cause the to travel to the next open spot and burn everything in its path trying to reach more oxygen which increases the Fire intensity
@@poppiarlin5612 you are correct, it was self venting
Steven Phillips is an expert firefighter without even doing the job. Way to go bud. 😂
Поясніть, навіщо вони прискорюють розповсюдження вогню?
Looks like they could have had a line on 830 next door.
Дом как видите сгорел,но за то весь город цел!)
С такой техникой так тушить,а народа нагнали и все пешком ходят. Может у них тактика такая
Now it looks like a fire death trap. Bad city planning at best, a danger to public servants?