When this began, I didn't think I would be impressed by watching. I was so wrong!!! Excellent education session, explanations, and fire drill. Thank you! I added it to my channel for others to learn/see. 💯 I enjoyed every minute of this.
Although I am not a fire fighter I have always been very interested in the art and science of fire fighting. I find these videos to be very interesting and quite educational. I have learned a great deal about the behavior of fire and about the methods of fire fighting and safety by watching this and other videos like it.
I totally agree. It's very apparent it moves what you see, but would be neat to see what you feel (as far as a numerical value). The only thing I don't like about a couple of videos I've seen on this, is the fact that the instructor/narrator only credits conditions better for the firefighter.. To me, your knocking down two birds with one stone.
Definitely correct about air. One of the fiercest fires I witnessed on youtube was a load of wooden scaffolding all the way up a high rise. Plenty of air between platforms and it was just one big inferno all the way up! I'm not sure how it caught fire. It may have been arson. Maybe a petrol powered grinder.
Could you point me to that video please? I'm looking for examples of uncontrolled vertical ventilation, as I'm studying the fire at the OVH data center in France a few days ago. Thanks!
See www.fireengineering.com/firefighter-training/innovative-fire-behavior-training-prop or www.fireengineering.com/firefighting/burning-down-the-house-a-practical-way-to-demonstrate-fire-behavior/
I don't really understand how the other floors didn't catch fire over time; is the first floor completely sealed with a chemical for demonstration purposes?
You'd said in a previous video that air doesn't =cooling, WATER = cooling. Not with oil, and you KNOW there's always ONE out there. Lol It flashed in a very bad way, as I saw it. I saw it on CCTV at a restaurant. I didn't want anyone to get hurt, but they're watching it burn (instead of covering the fryer w an upsude down tray) and the one guy goes off to get a glass of water which he puts on the fire. Someone in the comments mentioned he took off like Sonic. Which I'm sorry to say, when it when FOOM, I laughed. It just struck me funny. He leans way back and takes off. Like a cartoon. Also, you know most people don't know that DUSTY things (flour, sugar, corn, etc) can explode just like chemicals do. And burn the air. This is why you don't see many houses or schools across from places these things are made/stored. Because they can go BOOM, just like a bomb. Please maybe mention that. Oh, baking soda WOULD work, I believe, as would salt...? I knew of a neighbor kid that burned a pizza box in the oven (don't they teach them what temp paper burns at, 451F, in a 50k college these days??). It burns and instead of closing the door and waiting til it burns out. He tossed it onto a wood porch. You can imagine how long it took to put the porch and roof out... Nobody got hurt, but it was SO stupid. Had he just used WARM (250F), it would have been FINE. Couldn't burn. Maybe add some little footnotes...? The one showing air circulation affecting heat and smoke. Comments are turned off. Considering lay people might watch this, I'd consider telling them what happens when it's a GREASE fire, how water will NOT help your cause.
This drill incorporates zero variables and an unrealistic view of PD fires. First and foremost the open interior stairs are always open. Second unless the occupants just moved out there are combustibles in every room. Other issues: you have to open a door to advance a line to “create” cooling. The air draw changes with line operation and placement drastically (usually good) Roof vent: you talk about roof vent, pushing down the “Sheetrock” but your Depicting an attic not a cockloft. Not addressing the fact that there will be storage in this space and most likely a floor…making the pushing down of the Sheetrock impossible and to roof vent not only ineffective but pointless.
When this began, I didn't think I would be impressed by watching. I was so wrong!!! Excellent education session, explanations, and fire drill. Thank you! I added it to my channel for others to learn/see. 💯 I enjoyed every minute of this.
Excellent video and explanation and team work
Although I am not a fire fighter I have always been very interested in the art and science of fire fighting. I find these videos to be very interesting and quite educational. I have learned a great deal about the behavior of fire and about the methods of fire fighting and safety by watching this and other videos like it.
But nothing about firefighting.
PJ always creates a great training environment. Nice video chief. We use your house in every recruit school!
what kind of material would be used for the construction of the house?
Great vid.. thanks for posting.. loads of great nuggets of info from an obviously very trained and experienced training officer.
Thank you for this demo.
Very impressive demonstration. Thank you so much!
Excellent class.
Excellent Demonstration,
Very good.
Do you have plans for building the model?
Where can I get the plans for this box?
I would LOVE to see this drill through a TIC. Could help show how quickly the temperature of the combustion products increases and by how much.
I totally agree. It's very apparent it moves what you see, but would be neat to see what you feel (as far as a numerical value). The only thing I don't like about a couple of videos I've seen on this, is the fact that the instructor/narrator only credits conditions better for the firefighter.. To me, your knocking down two birds with one stone.
We did it with MSA TICs and some other brand I was unaware of, it was very cool. Even the small flashovers got up to 800
Awesome video!
cool im a firefighter i love your channel
NGL
Definitely correct about air. One of the fiercest fires I witnessed on youtube was a load of wooden scaffolding all the way up a high rise. Plenty of air between platforms and it was just one big inferno all the way up! I'm not sure how it caught fire. It may have been arson. Maybe a petrol powered grinder.
Could you point me to that video please? I'm looking for examples of uncontrolled vertical ventilation, as I'm studying the fire at the OVH data center in France a few days ago. Thanks!
@@mpuchol I think you mean "in a few days." Because "ago" indicates it's passed. :)
Where can we get your plans for the box ?
Mike, I would contact the guys at Stop Believing/Start Knowing (P.J. Norwood and Sean Gray)
Where can I get the plans to make one of these?
See www.fireengineering.com/firefighter-training/innovative-fire-behavior-training-prop
or
www.fireengineering.com/firefighting/burning-down-the-house-a-practical-way-to-demonstrate-fire-behavior/
PDF download: www.stopbelievingstartknowing.com/assets/sbsk-website-dollhouse-plans.pdf
Excellent
Thanks
Thank yiu
The piro in me just wants to see the box burn
I don't really understand how the other floors didn't catch fire over time; is the first floor completely sealed with a chemical for demonstration purposes?
You'd said in a previous video that air doesn't =cooling, WATER = cooling.
Not with oil, and you KNOW there's always ONE out there. Lol
It flashed in a very bad way, as I saw it.
I saw it on CCTV at a restaurant. I didn't want anyone to get hurt, but they're watching it burn (instead of covering the fryer w an upsude down tray) and the one guy goes off to get a glass of water which he puts on the fire.
Someone in the comments mentioned he took off like Sonic. Which I'm sorry to say, when it when FOOM, I laughed. It just struck me funny. He leans way back and takes off. Like a cartoon.
Also, you know most people don't know that DUSTY things (flour, sugar, corn, etc) can explode just like chemicals do. And burn the air.
This is why you don't see many houses or schools across from places these things are made/stored. Because they can go BOOM, just like a bomb.
Please maybe mention that.
Oh, baking soda WOULD work, I believe, as would salt...?
I knew of a neighbor kid that burned a pizza box in the oven (don't they teach them what temp paper burns at, 451F, in a 50k college these days??). It burns and instead of closing the door and waiting til it burns out. He tossed it onto a wood porch.
You can imagine how long it took to put the porch and roof out...
Nobody got hurt, but it was SO stupid. Had he just used WARM (250F), it would have been FINE. Couldn't burn.
Maybe add some little footnotes...?
The one showing air circulation affecting heat and smoke. Comments are turned off.
Considering lay people might watch this, I'd consider telling them what happens when it's a GREASE fire, how water will NOT help your cause.
Working in the Flow Path -- Ils savent éteindre un feu, mais pour en allumer un, il faut qu'ils reviennent à l'école.
The kind of fire behavior and control measures you are showing are not practically feasible in any big building.
This drill incorporates zero variables and an unrealistic view of PD fires. First and foremost the open interior stairs are always open. Second unless the occupants just moved out there are combustibles in every room. Other issues: you have to open a door to advance a line to “create” cooling. The air draw changes with line operation and placement drastically (usually good)
Roof vent: you talk about roof vent, pushing down the “Sheetrock” but your
Depicting an attic not a cockloft. Not addressing the fact that there will be storage in this space and most likely a floor…making the pushing down of the Sheetrock impossible and to roof vent not only ineffective but pointless.
Thanks for your feedback.