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Love Mason and his work ethic. He was the first pod I watched when I got into fantasy football, dope to see him and the UD team together two years in a row!
Definitely my two favorite channels. Underdog for the in-depth film analysis and league wide news, Flock for daily news / injuries thanks to his streams
Round 4 for Allen? I've done over 100 mocks on Sleeper this year and he's never made it past the early 3rd. He's usually always gone by the early third.
Mocks just have to many casuals who are going to pick Allen in the 3rd. Mocks are also the laboratory to test out different draft schemes, so even savvy players will try out an early QB build just to how it may play out. Actual tournament drafts, I rarely see any QB going before the 4th.
These three gentlemen and Smitty from the Fantasy Football Show are my go-to sources throughout the season. For me, it's the right mixture of perspectives that helps me draw my own conclusions.
Actually agree every other fantasy analyst doesn’t help you actually win a league but Smitty and him are very astute in terms of sleepers and breakout candidates. Matthew berry isn’t bad either as well
The Fantasy Football Show needs more love on these collabs Jason and Hayden. I watch you and Flock for different aspects. And Smitty presentation is unmatched. I also watch Pete on bestball breakfast. Who should also collab with Smitty
@@abozcorporation7492 Smitty is the goat I’ve been in the championship 3 years in a row almost strictly due to him but I have to give props to berry and flock fantasy as well because they helped me just at a lesser extent
This is where I get the fantasy info I need. “Josh Allen is good. Should probably draft.” Thank you, I’ll look into that and see if he’s worth drafting.
@@NMaster-lp8yzfunny you say that! I’m french and to my ear he has the easiest english to understand to me. I really like him. But my wife his voice drives her nuts
I just realized I wasn’t subscribed… your show always popped up so I assumed I was. Great job getting what is now one of my top 5 favorite programs out there to people who aren’t even subscribing! If you were going public, would be buying lots of stock.
I'm in a 10team PPR keeper w/ friends. I took Justin Jefferson #4 overall, Pacheco in the 2nd, and kept Breece Hall as my 3rd rd selection. Jalen Hurts ended up dropping to me in the 4th rd(37 overall). There were a lot of good WR options in rd 4, but I knew I could wait until rd 5 because one of them would be available.(Diggs, Waddle, Devonta Smith, Rashee Rice, Higgins). Sure enough, Devonta Smith was available for me in the 5th to stack with Hurts. I was so happy. I know QB is deep this year, but Hurts in the late 4th rd seems like crazy good value to me. I waited on QB last year and it was ridiculously volatile/my achilles heel all season.(I took Trevor Lawrence). There's something very comforting about being able to just set and forget the QB position. I especially like that I was able to get an elite option at good value that could easily end up QB1 overall at the end of the season. So excited for this season.
Picked up Allen and Keon Coleman in the 9th. Amon-ra st brown and Goff later. I also believe in Godwin this year picked him up in round 7. He could put up Evan’s numbers out the slot but he needs the touchdowns to go up
I have been watching this show for a while and I realized that I was not subscribed,, you had said about people being jerks lol.. I was like hey I'm not a jerk so I subscribe
Rashee Rice, Xavier Worthy, Brian Thomas Jr, Chris Godwin, Ladd McConkey are all 5, 6, 7 round receivers that are good values or at least appropriately priced IMO. I did agree with a lot about Josh Allen & Legette tho.
Only thing that makes me hesitant with Josh Allen is the same reason most are high on him - his increased rushing. He is a QB who runs like an RB meaning he takes alot of unnecessary hits. Instead of going down, he'll risk his body for an extra 1 or 2 yards. Drives me crazy as a Bills fan. If only he can take a page from Jalen Hurts.
I think Kyler is a league winner based off of his adp. His legs combined with Conner, McBride, and Harrison, this offense is going to shoot yo the rankings
I would maybe not refer to us as “these people.” That’ll help raise the % to half right there. We hear everything and some of us are hyper sensitive over thinkers. Flock is humble and engaged respects his listeners IMO - I’m subscribed. Thx the content
The confidence in Josh Allen given the lack of talent around him is absolutely ridiculous. The Bills are not going to be a top 5 offense. Keon Coleman might give you something but that’s a guy you can get in round 9 or 10. At his current ADP I’m completely out on Josh Allen.
Mason and the guys from Under Dog. Blowing up because they are much more likeable than idiots like Smitty and the Counselor who like to spit takes on "who sucks" but dont use stats to back their opinions up!😂
If you like great players on great offenses, Jamo is a slam dunk pick at his ridiculously low ADP of 115. The negatives against Jamo are all wrong. Easily a 1000 yard season in what will be the #1 offense in the NFL with Miami being the only real competitor. Detroit will be the sixth team in history with three 1000 yard pass catchers.
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Thank you for having me! Safe to say I'm Underdog's #1 fan
You're the best
Two favorite fantasy football channels right here
Flock anyone who doesn’t draft these five!
Only here for the flock chacaaaaww chacaaaaaw is the new hawk tuah
You guys are the best in the biz
Love Mason and his work ethic. He was the first pod I watched when I got into fantasy football, dope to see him and the UD team together two years in a row!
Glazing
You guys are so young in this Fantasy Guru's game and knowledgeable in your field. I can see you guys being in this game four decades to come.
Absolutely sick collab...need more of Flock x Underdog
My 2 favorite go-to fantasy sources. This was awesome.
Definitely my two favorite channels. Underdog for the in-depth film analysis and league wide news, Flock for daily news / injuries thanks to his streams
I’ve been waiting for this crossover all summer 🔥🔥🔥
This was the second collaboration this year
Showing highlights while you guys are discussing the players is pure gold, Awesome!!
Round 4 for Allen? I've done over 100 mocks on Sleeper this year and he's never made it past the early 3rd. He's usually always gone by the early third.
Mocks just have to many casuals who are going to pick Allen in the 3rd. Mocks are also the laboratory to test out different draft schemes, so even savvy players will try out an early QB build just to how it may play out. Actual tournament drafts, I rarely see any QB going before the 4th.
In my league all top quarterbacks were gone before end of round 3
“They’re asleep at the wheel” was diabolical 😂
Great to see the two best fantasy football channels on RUclips collaborating on a video.
The Collab I been waiting for!! the fantasy football goats 🐐
Great combo of fantasy analyzers
These three gentlemen and Smitty from the Fantasy Football Show are my go-to sources throughout the season. For me, it's the right mixture of perspectives that helps me draw my own conclusions.
Actually agree every other fantasy analyst doesn’t help you actually win a league but Smitty and him are very astute in terms of sleepers and breakout candidates. Matthew berry isn’t bad either as well
Don't forget Ron Stewart!
The Fantasy Football Show needs more love on these collabs Jason and Hayden. I watch you and Flock for different aspects. And Smitty presentation is unmatched. I also watch Pete on bestball breakfast. Who should also collab with Smitty
@@abozcorporation7492 Smitty is the goat I’ve been in the championship 3 years in a row almost strictly due to him but I have to give props to berry and flock fantasy as well because they helped me just at a lesser extent
Smitty is the man. He is knowledgeable and his sense of humor is great. It is surprising to me he has not blown up.
This is where I get the fantasy info I need. “Josh Allen is good. Should probably draft.” Thank you, I’ll look into that and see if he’s worth drafting.
Thanks for really clarifying best ball vs redraft differences. Many underdoggers do not & leave us home leaguers thinking 🤷♂️
Great job Mason 👍
Been waiting for this one!
I remember that vid last year. Mason loves glazin up the squad. Love all 3 of you tied for best fantasy shows
Mason and Ron the two best guests, keep having them on!
As a fan of both channels there were some absolute theory gems dropped in here, five players aside.
Yes! My two favorites colliding!!!
Don’t let mason lie to you guys.. Quentin Johnston is his number 1 guy
🤫🤫🤫
Based on??
Based on watching his stream every night and witnessing the absurd amount of times he takes QJ
I can't watch Mason. He has that slur and massive saliva in his mouth all the time. Plus his advice is horrible.
@@NMaster-lp8yzfunny you say that! I’m french and to my ear he has the easiest english to understand to me. I really like him. But my wife his voice drives her nuts
Mason is a beast! Love it!
Excellent, I had just assumed all along mason was a guy named Flock, this was an insightful discussion in other ways too
Appreciate it yall and I just subscribed to your channel. Ready for the season
Love seeing Mason on here lets goo🎉
I just realized I wasn’t subscribed… your show always popped up so I assumed I was. Great job getting what is now one of my top 5 favorite programs out there to people who aren’t even subscribing! If you were going public, would be buying lots of stock.
I'm in a 10team PPR keeper w/ friends.
I took Justin Jefferson #4 overall, Pacheco in the 2nd, and kept Breece Hall as my 3rd rd selection.
Jalen Hurts ended up dropping to me in the 4th rd(37 overall). There were a lot of good WR options in rd 4, but I knew I could wait until rd 5 because one of them would be available.(Diggs, Waddle, Devonta Smith, Rashee Rice, Higgins).
Sure enough, Devonta Smith was available for me in the 5th to stack with Hurts. I was so happy.
I know QB is deep this year, but Hurts in the late 4th rd seems like crazy good value to me. I waited on QB last year and it was ridiculously volatile/my achilles heel all season.(I took Trevor Lawrence). There's something very comforting about being able to just set and forget the QB position. I especially like that I was able to get an elite option at good value that could easily end up QB1 overall at the end of the season.
So excited for this season.
Mason is the 🐐 I love these episodes
The host trying to get subscribers and the guy stand on business. That was the highlight of the show. Both was well played. I’ll subscribe lol
Anyone else addicted to fantasy content this time of year
After watching Mason for years when I watch him get recognition it feels like I’m getting recognition😂 -Tgod
Mason’s hair grew back in time for the season, thank Jesus
Picked up Allen and Keon Coleman in the 9th. Amon-ra st brown and Goff later. I also believe in Godwin this year picked him up in round 7. He could put up Evan’s numbers out the slot but he needs the touchdowns to go up
Thanks buddy
YEA - the Mason Show!
Jacobs is going to go in mid to late round 3 in home leagues
As he should. Will be a top 5 back
This is exactly what I came down to the comments to check on. Jacobs doesn't make it out of the third in any leagues I've seen.
Exactly
First, great work guys!!
Nope
You've had Brett, Nick, and Mason all on now? Lovin' it.
Great show fellas. S/O to the flashback of long-haired Hayden
Thanks for all the content, you guys stay on task and give us information to synthesize and maximize, just started subscribing, Bear Down.
Mason is THE GUY thanks Mason thanks Hayden also
Mason’s voice sounds different than it does on his channel.
MASON IN THE HOUSE
Where are Josh Allen and Josh Jacobs going rounds 4-5? Both are 2-3 rounders per adp
Allen going Round 4 on Underdog. Jacob’s round 5 on underdog
I have been watching this show for a while and I realized that I was not subscribed,, you had said about people being jerks lol.. I was like hey I'm not a jerk so I subscribe
Rashee Rice, Xavier Worthy, Brian Thomas Jr, Chris Godwin, Ladd McConkey are all 5, 6, 7 round receivers that are good values or at least appropriately priced IMO.
I did agree with a lot about Josh Allen & Legette tho.
22:45 fuck, I only play with my old college buddies
I’m in a ESPN league with my buddies so essentially this video is pretty useless.
After hearing your comments. I thought I was subscribed. Because how much you show up on my feed . I wasn’t but I am now.
I listen to you guys so often I actually thought I already subscribed. I am now subscribed! Sorry for being such a jerk for so long.
Only thing that makes me hesitant with Josh Allen is the same reason most are high on him - his increased rushing. He is a QB who runs like an RB meaning he takes alot of unnecessary hits. Instead of going down, he'll risk his body for an extra 1 or 2 yards. Drives me crazy as a Bills fan. If only he can take a page from Jalen Hurts.
@@Alexander-ms8nr never said he's not been great just rather he not having to run more. He can win with just his arm and Im fine with that.
He's been QB #1 in FF for 3 years in a row....
Allen will not be #1 this year, mark my words
@@r4ym1n13un thinking thr samething
Mason the man!!!!
The Mase! It's not at all redundant that he drinks from a mason jar on the rare occasion basically for his victory sips...
Speaking of the LaFleur stat of not having a RB over 50+%, this is called data correlation and is actually an Aaron Jones stat. Jacobs will feast.
Appreciate the content, Josh Jacobs will play half the season
Why is stacking more important in the marathon?
MASON MY GUY
Two of my favorite FF shows in one.
No hat 🧢 day ? Throwing me off boyzzz
I think Kyler is a league winner based off of his adp. His legs combined with Conner, McBride, and Harrison, this offense is going to shoot yo the rankings
@Josh do you believe in Joe Hendry this year?
I like how Hayden thinks he better than every bb drafter drafting from the SB until now for some reason.
It’s pretty awesome that the best Bills WR goes last in fantasy drafts
When are the fantasy headliners getting an invite !
It’s America, we are watching fantasy football advice. Take a second and appreciate it
I would maybe not refer to us as “these people.” That’ll help raise the % to half right there. We hear everything and some of us are hyper sensitive over thinkers. Flock is humble and engaged respects his listeners IMO - I’m subscribed. Thx the content
Mayson fits in on this show perfectly. Three is a magic number. You guys would be a powerhouse
Bro, Josh was glazin Mason so hard.
Good vid
I really thought I was subscribed this whole time
Same, I just recently subscribed this week.
Should I trade the dynasty rookie 1.07 for Jordan Addison straight up? 10 team ppr
No
🐐🐐🐐
Gotta get nick zylak on the show
gotta keep some guys to ourselves! nick is the goat.
@@bhurt22 tell him to keep nick to us he’s the best on RUclips with no disrespect to anyone else
Yep Josh and Hayden then Nick are my go toos. Love Mason too though more for best ball though
Who the hell gets Josh allen in round 4 lol
He has an ADP of the first pick of round 4 on Underdog
Draft more bruh
Why would I draft any of these guys over cmc or hill
Jordan Addison lol 😂
lmao I'm like slow down buddy
That was a pretty poor take there.
The confidence in Josh Allen given the lack of talent around him is absolutely ridiculous. The Bills are not going to be a top 5 offense. Keon Coleman might give you something but that’s a guy you can get in round 9 or 10. At his current ADP I’m completely out on Josh Allen.
Absolutely ridiculous is a stretch to say considering where he finished the past 3 or 4 years.
Diggs and Davis were useless at the end of last year and he still cooked. He's also literally Josh Allen
The real key to winning on UD is to have a fat ass bank roll to where you can do max entries and afford to be so wrong on so many teams.
😂😂 then max every tournament and quit your job fam
@@ryanderbes2941 that's the dream carnal
Why on earth did Hayden cut off those luscious locks? Not that his current cut looks bad or anything
Mullet coming back in 2025
Don’t ever talk about the percentage not subbed.
Why not?
It aint your channel. They can do what they want lmao
HEED THE CALL!
Two of these players on Hayden’s refuse to draft list 🤔
Perceptive!
Helluva Crossover Episode
I Subscribed at 14:50 😅
I desperately need a RB rankings vid
shooting for Allen in 4 and Hurts if he's taken.
asleep at the wheel is insane
Here's a good fantasy tip: draft Bama RBs.
Josh is Masons Dad or older Brother
Seems Bills have a history of using a decent amount of 2 TE’s but maybe my memory is failing me
Mason and the guys from Under Dog. Blowing up because they are much more likeable than idiots like Smitty and the Counselor who like to spit takes on "who sucks" but dont use stats to back their opinions up!😂
The top QBs are not going in round 4 lmao. Round 3 at the latest and often someone takes one end of round 2
BTJ in the late rounds trust me guys
Such a difference than sleeper, no way in my 12 team home league will josh Allen and kincade be There at round 4 and 5
Hardest working man in fantasy right there
If you like great players on great offenses, Jamo is a slam dunk pick at his ridiculously low ADP of 115. The negatives against Jamo are all wrong. Easily a 1000 yard season in what will be the #1 offense in the NFL with Miami being the only real competitor. Detroit will be the sixth team in history with three 1000 yard pass catchers.
Marshawn Lloyd will end the year as the packers RB1
I got Josh Allen in Rd 6 in a grandma league 😂
I don't think Josh Jacobs lasts to 5th Rnd. Mid 3rd I think