People kill me with their complaints of Roland’s sound when some of the dopest music was produced on Fantoms, if there are no gold records on your wall, then what difference does it make, what board you have it’s self explanatory, I have both and trust me connectivity wise Roland hands down. The fantom is a production board with multiple ways to make music, montage is a performance live platform , it’s really best to have both because they are beast in their own right
there are a lot of great sounds and a lot of meh sounds on the fantom IMO :) you have to sift through everything and favorite the ones you like. thats what im learning. join the community on patreon to continue the conversation! www.patreon.com/khordmaster
Suppppp! Channel members can request a video! Check it out if you’d like! And I have but I REALLY don’t like it compared to what I’m coming from: the Roland Fantom
@@Khordmaster Yeah I'm in a toss up between the Montage M and Fantom 8. I like sounds of the Montage more but recoding looks SO easy with the Fantom and that's what I need it for. Also the Fantom's about a grand chapter. But that Montage man... That thing makes me feel something.
@@The.Foolosopher so well said! Yeah I have a lot to say about the differences. You pretty much nailed it. Recording on the Fantom is so straight forward!!
Looks like Clair de Lune? Nice. I have a Yamaha P515 for (silent) classical playing. But I must say I prefer to use my iPad with Pianoteq because I feel the internal sound is rather meh. I wonder how the piano sounds of the Montage compare? But most likely they are not as top notch as Pianoteq, Keyscape, etc? But then again the Montage is not just for Piano playing :)
interesting! I thought the piano sounds were stellar on my p515. I love that digital piano so much... I've never used pianoteq but you got me intrigued right now... piano sounds on montage are I think identical or better than the p515
Fan noise non existent / not noticeable to me … fingerprints … I never noticed lmao I just noticed the dust. I’m sure the fingerprints wipe off easy tho
Roland sound engineers and product management suck! the sounds are flat and dead, maybe the platform is capable, but the sounds are programmed so poorly that it sounds like a sample player from teh 90's. Basically what you are saying is that Fantom just doesn't sound good, so what is a musical instrument good for if it doesn't sound cool? I'm thinking about buying my Fantom 8, so disappointed in Roland and about the money I'm going to lose because this Fantom thing is a scam! Enjoy your Montage, I hope I'll be able to get one someday.
i don't think rolands sounds suck, i just like yamahas better on the montage compared to the fantom... but yeah this board is sick.. hope you're able to get one!
Jezzz, I feel like I'm back in the late 80's... Yamaha DX7 vs Roland D50! The Fantom and Montage are 2 completely different boards with completely different sound architectures. If your taste leans more towards warm lush synths, then the Montage is for you. Others prefer sounds build around high-quality instument samples. It all comes down to preference. ...even scarier, it all really comes down to chops! I remember watching a commercial with Herbie Hancock play the sh*t out of a cheap Casio. The quality of whatever sound he was playing didn't make a difference.
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People kill me with their complaints of Roland’s sound when some of the dopest music was produced on Fantoms, if there are no gold records on your wall, then what difference does it make, what board you have it’s self explanatory, I have both and trust me connectivity wise Roland hands down. The fantom is a production board with multiple ways to make music, montage is a performance live platform , it’s really best to have both because they are beast in their own right
there are a lot of great sounds and a lot of meh sounds on the fantom IMO :) you have to sift through everything and favorite the ones you like. thats what im learning. join the community on patreon to continue the conversation! www.patreon.com/khordmaster
I'd love to see a video of your workflow with the Montage. Also- have you used the Montage M's sequencer?
Suppppp! Channel members can request a video! Check it out if you’d like! And I have but I REALLY don’t like it compared to what I’m coming from: the Roland Fantom
@@Khordmaster Yeah I'm in a toss up between the Montage M and Fantom 8. I like sounds of the Montage more but recoding looks SO easy with the Fantom and that's what I need it for. Also the Fantom's about a grand chapter. But that Montage man... That thing makes me feel something.
@@The.Foolosopher so well said! Yeah I have a lot to say about the differences. You pretty much nailed it. Recording on the Fantom is so straight forward!!
Looks like Clair de Lune? Nice. I have a Yamaha P515 for (silent) classical playing. But I must say I prefer to use my iPad with Pianoteq because I feel the internal sound is rather meh. I wonder how the piano sounds of the Montage compare? But most likely they are not as top notch as Pianoteq, Keyscape, etc? But then again the Montage is not just for Piano playing :)
interesting! I thought the piano sounds were stellar on my p515. I love that digital piano so much... I've never used pianoteq but you got me intrigued right now... piano sounds on montage are I think identical or better than the p515
How would you compare the keybed feel to the Fantom8 ?
They are both extremely good ... top notch. very similar IMO
Hello :) How does the GEX action compare to the NWX action? Is GEX too light for Piano finger training. Thank you in advance sir! :)
Im not too sure what GEX and NWX are tbh
@@Khordmaster GEX is Montage M8X key action. NWX is for the P515.
Cheers !
Maybe use a DAW like Cubase 13. Its so easy to use.
Heard good things about Cubase! But I prefer being able to make stuff right on the keyboard itself like with the Fantom
do those fingerprints on the front panel wipe off easily? how is the internal fan noise? noticeable to be annoying?
Fan noise non existent / not noticeable to me … fingerprints … I never noticed lmao I just noticed the dust. I’m sure the fingerprints wipe off easy tho
what speakers are good ?
OB-4 and ik micros 😎
Roland sound engineers and product management suck! the sounds are flat and dead, maybe the platform is capable, but the sounds are programmed so poorly that it sounds like a sample player from teh 90's.
Basically what you are saying is that Fantom just doesn't sound good, so what is a musical instrument good for if it doesn't sound cool?
I'm thinking about buying my Fantom 8, so disappointed in Roland and about the money I'm going to lose because this Fantom thing is a scam!
Enjoy your Montage, I hope I'll be able to get one someday.
i don't think rolands sounds suck, i just like yamahas better on the montage compared to the fantom... but yeah this board is sick.. hope you're able to get one!
Jezzz, I feel like I'm back in the late 80's... Yamaha DX7 vs Roland D50! The Fantom and Montage are 2 completely different boards with completely different sound architectures. If your taste leans more towards warm lush synths, then the Montage is for you. Others prefer sounds build around high-quality instument samples. It all comes down to preference. ...even scarier, it all really comes down to chops!
I remember watching a commercial with Herbie Hancock play the sh*t out of a cheap Casio. The quality of whatever sound he was playing didn't make a difference.
make some beats
honestly - the montage m8x is not seeming to be a great machine to "make beats" on like the roland fantom. more for performance and sound design
@@Khordmaster okay
@@Khordmaster they upgraded the sequencer. you can make beats on it now. you should update it. let me know
@@clockspeed-nu4kj oh word?! Let me check on this
$4,600.00!!! It better be the Dream Machine and every other Yamaha keyboard all in one (CS80, C7, etc.)!
haha I'm sayinnnn... it's insanely good
Looks worth it to me!