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  • Опубликовано: 22 дек 2024

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  • @otopugpug
    @otopugpug Год назад +76

    I find it funny that the sponsored episodes don't have the card prices on them

    • @assault410
      @assault410 Год назад +7

      Wotc and their strange rules

    • @peeporiot9948
      @peeporiot9948 Год назад +4

      Well when he shows the prices it sponsored by card kingdom. If it's not sponsored by a secondary market so that's why there's no prices

    • @LunarWingCloud
      @LunarWingCloud Год назад +2

      It is funny but it also makes sense at least. Card Kingdom sponsor? Show their price. Wizards sponsor? No secondary market listed.

    • @jamesblanton6277
      @jamesblanton6277 Год назад +2

      For a ferengi it is all quite normal

    • @RisottoNero-z1w
      @RisottoNero-z1w Год назад +1

      Wotc demands it. It's important to keep the lawsuits away while they co tine to print money.

  • @altromonte15
    @altromonte15 Год назад +45

    wild to think that a lion from the savannah would lose in a brawl with Barbara Wright, history teacher. School is a really dangerous place these days.

  • @ROMANTIKILLER2
    @ROMANTIKILLER2 Год назад +38

    I don't think it takes clairvoyance to predict the #1 spot.
    This top 10 is very indicative of the absurd power creep in creatures over the last few years.

    • @didymussumydid9726
      @didymussumydid9726 Год назад +8

      compare phyrexian negator and phyrexian obliterator. the former is a very well-balanced high-powered card. i won and lost games off the back of that card when it was in standard, very fun. now i look at these modern cards which are all power and no downsides other than opportunity cost. how is that any fun?

    • @MainTopmastStaysail
      @MainTopmastStaysail Год назад +4

      Round of applause for Dauntless Bodyguard for actually moving up the list in that time.

    • @Sulmor85
      @Sulmor85 Год назад +3

      Things are spiraling out of control

    • @Psychonautical89
      @Psychonautical89 Год назад

      ​@@didymussumydid9726to be fair, Obliterator had several things balancing it out. It was BBBB, which is an absurd asking cost that works in almost nothing but a B or B/g deck, and it was printed alongside Dismember and around blocks that featured a lot of bounce and other non-damage removal, like the W/U miracles from Innistrad, Beast Within, etc. I recall lots of permanent stealing back then, too. Mindslaver and Vedalken Shackles, or you could just shut down an aggressor with any number of Enchantments from the time.
      I think the Obliterator was meant to usher in a stepping away from using more damage spells or just huge creatures. They wanted to encourage people to do less beatdown and burn, because around that time why would I not use removal spells that also caused damage so I could hit the opponent and planeswalker? Why would I not just go big with creatures so I can attack my opponent and their planeswalker?
      (Enter Obliterator). Oh, that's why.
      Lal speculation on my part but that's what I recall from around that time.

    • @TheShinyFeraligatr
      @TheShinyFeraligatr Год назад +1

      Comparing Negator and Obliterator is easy, Negator is the good one that saw play while Obliterator was the one that was only vaguely relevant for a very brief period of time.

  • @troythewizard9940
    @troythewizard9940 Год назад +65

    Who called it that Ragavan would be #1?
    That's right. *Everyone* can put their hands down. Most obvious #1 yet! 😂

    •  Год назад +4

      For me, as an older player, Birds of Paradise on the Green flyer list was much more obvious. But I havn't played competitive constructed since like 2008 or so...

  • @personalthesus
    @personalthesus Год назад +29

    I’ll be a little sad when this gets revisited next time and Savannah Lions and Jackel Pup don’t even make the list 😢

    • @tygonmaster
      @tygonmaster Год назад +1

      The vast majority of cards at this point are largely forgotten as every single set has draft chaff.

  • @TheAceOfFire
    @TheAceOfFire Год назад +1

    I read the graphics as 'One Mana 2/15' and I was freaking out!

  • @LunarWingCloud
    @LunarWingCloud Год назад

    You've come a long way, Nizzahon! From years back when you were just getting your groove to now where you are getting sponsored by Wizards themselves. Keep up the great work!
    I actually didn't realize there were quite a large number of these Savannah Lions creatures.

  • @carcharr83
    @carcharr83 Год назад +4

    I look forward to all your top 10s!

  • @marcoottina654
    @marcoottina654 Год назад +26

    It's a bit sad to me this powercreep: each point of mana in the casting cost is getting more and more relevant to the point where 4 drops are almost unplayable in a competitive format AND lots of old cards will be forgotten forever.

    • @TheEvolver311
      @TheEvolver311 Год назад +2

      Huh, 4 drops have pretty much always been bad outside of Standard and are still very relevant in Standard.
      Power creep is inevitable as players want new powerful cards every set. Just look at Ixalan mid level power widely considered a bad set.

    • @jonothanthrace1530
      @jonothanthrace1530 Год назад +5

      Solution: Don't play competitive.

    • @RockmeHellsing
      @RockmeHellsing Год назад +6

      Yeah but the greed of hasbro destroys the game cause the process is speed up times 20 because in my time on theros, we waited months for a set, now there a set every 2 weeks so fick hasbro no one can keep up

    • @marcoottina654
      @marcoottina654 Год назад +1

      @@TheEvolver311 4 drops is barely above the "medium value" (which is around 3), that's insane!
      Yeah, cards _can_ be powerful without destroying all previous history.
      It seems to me like a child's cry "I want a big gun, bigger than the other 25'000 before!"

    • @poiri
      @poiri Год назад +5

      ⁠@@RockmeHellsingyou say this as if hasbro didn’t own WotC when Theros was made

  • @tygonmaster
    @tygonmaster Год назад +4

    Ragavan is pretty much the quintessential example of extreme power creep in the game, acting as a tum 1 win condition if you don't have an answer.

  • @ceulgai2817
    @ceulgai2817 Год назад

    Nice plug for Nizza History on the end card! I'd be tickled to see it return!

  • @Sulmor85
    @Sulmor85 Год назад +32

    Power creep is depressing
    Nizzahon in 2030: "A 1 mana 5/5 with upside is woefully inefficient. You should expect way more for that investment"

    • @Derret134
      @Derret134 Год назад +2

      I mean it dies to fatal push so of course it would be bad :D

    • @marcoottina654
      @marcoottina654 Год назад +2

      ​​@@Derret134they will create an "allosaur God-Incarnation", a 6/5 legendary with trample, indestructible for just G that will come back to the battlefield the very next turn if it leaves the battlefield instead of going anywhere else.
      Edit: ah, it is not counterable

  • @DelValle144
    @DelValle144 Год назад +3

    For these update videos, I think it would be great to add to the title "Update 2023".

  • @Wojtek36762
    @Wojtek36762 Год назад +1

    Neat update! It feels like 1 mana 2/1s with upside in the later game is good design space, I’ve been very happy with the ones printed in Standard recently.

    • @fernandobanda5734
      @fernandobanda5734 Год назад +1

      Recruitment Officer is, I think, the gold standard of what aggressive creatures should be now.

  • @Hilleri24
    @Hilleri24 Год назад

    Commenting to help you with the RUclips algorithm. Keep up the great work, you're the best!

  • @Titanreaver616
    @Titanreaver616 Год назад

    I do enjoy these lists where there is an obvious best in class but sometimes historical performance and longevity can shift the order you might expect. In this case the number one is pretty obvious but the order of the rest of the list was quite interesting.

  • @jonothanthrace1530
    @jonothanthrace1530 Год назад +7

    I refuse to believe that a creature with level up has gained any points anywhere at any time.

    • @Earthboundmike
      @Earthboundmike Год назад +1

      It's likely to be the only one to ever do that lol.

    • @TheShinyFeraligatr
      @TheShinyFeraligatr Год назад

      Quite a few did in that Standard actually. The really good White Knight one was an Extended star in the last days of that format, too.

  • @jefftaargus6672
    @jefftaargus6672 Год назад +20

    Happy Halloween Nizzaheads!

  • @matthewwendricks9562
    @matthewwendricks9562 Год назад

    Where do you get your tournament data from? I'm interested in doing data analysis based on tournament results.

  • @gakk8658
    @gakk8658 Год назад

    51 1 mana 2/1s! Stats like that make me love these lists.

  • @OrbGoblin
    @OrbGoblin Год назад +11

    Nizza, plz do a free style rap about Fallen Empires

  • @joelmonteiro1419
    @joelmonteiro1419 Год назад +1

    Hexdrinker is so powerful I had never noticed it's a 2/1 for G.

  • @banditkeithkingofduelmonsters
    @banditkeithkingofduelmonsters Год назад +42

    I suspect the person who designed ragavan was the same person who made skull clamp. They may have brain damage.

    • @fastydave
      @fastydave Год назад +7

      Imagine being mad about cardboard rectangles like you.

    • @josephdevita2938
      @josephdevita2938 Год назад +10

      Skullclamp was intended to actually be +1/+1 but the developers thought that was to strong so made it the +1/-1 one we have today not seeing the problems that it can cause later on down the road.

    • @Omenshaper
      @Omenshaper Год назад +5

      ​@@fastydaveYeah man imagine having passion about the game and its design, so cringe

    • @marcoottina654
      @marcoottina654 Год назад +11

      ​@@Omenshaperso much to accuse brain damage ? That's a bit too much

    • @McD_James
      @McD_James Год назад +7

      Ragavan was intended to be extremely powerful. Skullclamp was a design oversight. Bad comparison. But besides that, Darksteel and Modern Horizons 2 were designed by entirely different teams with zero overlap.

  • @thewarmembraceofafriend
    @thewarmembraceofafriend Год назад +1

    Oh boy, I wonder what number one is.

  • @volosguidetomonsters3440
    @volosguidetomonsters3440 Год назад

    Idea: Dread Wanderer, Gutterbones, Tenacious Underdog, some other similar cards, and a bunch of wraths

  • @nickhughes8179
    @nickhughes8179 Год назад

    I’d love to see Jackal Pup in Pauper alongside Savanna Lions

    • @NizzahonMagic
      @NizzahonMagic  Год назад

      It's legal there, as are the lions. But neither are good enough anymore.

  • @Oimfiel
    @Oimfiel Год назад

    I am usually very bad at guessing what the #1 cards on a list, but this time it was beyond easy

  • @JustRightPinedo
    @JustRightPinedo Год назад

    Cheeky mouse trades with a Grizzly bear, cheeky for sure…

  • @PokeBattlerJaze
    @PokeBattlerJaze Год назад +2

    Oh Ragavan, literally nothing else it could be.
    Edit:
    I mean...yeah duh.

  • @littlegeek5159
    @littlegeek5159 Год назад +2

    Honestly I was hoping something other than monke would be number 1.

  • @zakpodo
    @zakpodo Год назад

    Can anybody explain why dread wanderer would be considered "better in most every way over gutterbones"?
    Seems to me it has the advantage of costing 2B instead of 1BB to bring back, but the other differences are all upside is in gutterbones favor... excluding creature type synergies.
    Maybe im missing something.

  • @mjddjm96
    @mjddjm96 Год назад

    When I saw this video I was like "Okay so it's Ragavan and who else?"

  • @TeaHauss
    @TeaHauss Год назад

    It would be really funny if they did the triplet thing to savannah lions, www for a vanilla 6/3. I present Savannah Pride.

  • @pspsmallz
    @pspsmallz Год назад +1

    Ragavan being number 1 is gonna be a common thing huh 😂

  • @Y2KNW
    @Y2KNW Год назад

    Falconrath Gorger + Call the Bloodline. No the best combo out there but dropping vampires on other players' turns is still better than playing them on your own.

  • @thrillhouse4151
    @thrillhouse4151 Год назад

    I only own the Dauntless Bodyguard out of all of these, 2/1’s for one just ain’t my thing apparently. Of course I covet the monkey, but I don’t like spending $30+ on “new” cards. Hell I don’t like spending that on old cards either.

  • @ClexYoshi
    @ClexYoshi Год назад +1

    It probably took a lot of restraint to make the thumbnail Savannah Lions and not Ragavan, huh?

  • @hitmangfx7162
    @hitmangfx7162 Год назад

    Ragavan looks at those treasure tokens the same way WotC looks at Ragavan printing money for them as a chase card. Part of me likes the design, the other part of me thinks it's an incredibly lazy auto-include for a lot of red decks.

  • @happyslapsgiving5421
    @happyslapsgiving5421 Год назад +4

    I'd argue that the Pup has one downside while the Satyr has two.
    And yes, I know that's not 100% exact because you get a marginally relevant ability together with that second downside (which stacks badly with the first one, btw).
    But all things considered, I don't think the Satyr fits the definition of " *_strictly better_* ".

    • @KPX01
      @KPX01 Год назад +2

      at the end of the day the satyr can pump itself if needed and for agro sometimes that 1 point of damage is going to decide win/lose

    • @gaebril131
      @gaebril131 Год назад +4

      It's an option. You get to choose when to activate the second ability. If you're not sure, don't use it. If you only activate it when you're sure it's useful, then the net value of that ability is always positive. If that means you never use it, that's fine - its floor is still same as the jackal pup.

    • @Hornet-bz4xg
      @Hornet-bz4xg Год назад +2

      It 100% does, any card thats the same with any other option is strictly better, even a 2/1 with the same textbox and then like 20R, deal one damage to the opponent and 1 to yourself is strictly better

    • @Jason-ry1gd
      @Jason-ry1gd Год назад +2

      The second ability isnt a downside since its a choice. You dont have to activate it; and should only do so when it will be positive for you

  • @RubbleRamp
    @RubbleRamp Год назад

    Ninja where is the price/value

  • @ericc7241
    @ericc7241 Год назад +3

    Top 10 knights?

  • @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
    @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor Год назад +4

    I'm absurdly tired after having to dash home from the train station, to the chemist, and then back to the train station. Kinda like the #1 really. Speaking of, I wonder if one day it might make it onto "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)"!

  • @theedwardstewart
    @theedwardstewart Год назад

    Like and comment for the algorithm.

  • @ringoderbar1522
    @ringoderbar1522 Год назад

    Does being an MtGAmbassador mean that you are not allowed to include the card price anymore?
    I really liked that

    • @matthewutech5970
      @matthewutech5970 Год назад +2

      Only if the video was sponsored by Wizards. Usually, they're sponsored by Card Kingdom.

    • @ringoderbar1522
      @ringoderbar1522 Год назад

      @@matthewutech5970 Well, if WotC tells you not to include the price in the videos sponsored by WotC, it is not far fetched to think that Nizzahon would exclude the prices in his other videos too. Basically as a good measure

  • @dunpeal1923
    @dunpeal1923 Год назад +2

    Ragavan is just bad design. Way to unbalanced. He is THE embodiment of power creeping and i hate it.

  • @geeknseek
    @geeknseek Год назад

    It’s Wednesday my dudes

  • @thevaultwalrus
    @thevaultwalrus Год назад

    HMMMMM I wonder which is best

  • @johnnyw4life
    @johnnyw4life Год назад +1

    Imagine a card being so powerful that it’s banned in Legacy, yet it’s not banned in Modern…. 🤦‍♂️
    Like honestly wtf….

    • @MrZer093
      @MrZer093 Год назад

      It’s also about the interaction with other cards in the format. One mana and the ability to steal a random card goes MUCH further in legacy. It’s a format dominated by cheap and efficient cards after all. If they didn’t ban Rags in that format, they’d have had to ban more and maybe even the very cards that players feel make the format what it is.

    • @poiri
      @poiri Год назад

      Do you think Dreadhorde Arcanist or Wrenn and Six should be banned in modern? I hope not because they really aren’t problems there like they were in legacy

  • @adamvlcek2370
    @adamvlcek2370 Год назад

    I wonder how come Cult Conscript didnt make the list... seeing worse card to make it... probably due to color?

    • @matthewutech5970
      @matthewutech5970 Год назад

      Cult conscript requires a creature you control to died that turn AND pay two mana to get a tapped 2/1. While not bad, this isn't where Aggro decks want to be since they want more creatures in play, not merely replacing creatures.
      Gutterbones & Kendra on the other hand allows aggro decks to buy them back just so long as the aggro deck is doing what it wanted to be doing; dealing damage/life lost to your opponents life total (like for Gutterbones) and dumping your hand by the mid to late game (Kendra).