Edelbrock E-Force Jeep Wrangler JK Supercharger Review at Brenspeed
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- Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2016
- Taking the Edelbrock Supercharged Wrangler for a test drive. Here is a link to the Edelbrock Supercharger! www.brenspeed.com/jeeps-jeep-p...
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I'm really glad you posted this, thank you. I just bought one for my 2013 and am waiting for it to delivered. Seeing this confirms that I made the right decision in going with this one.
It's been 2 years! Was it worth it?
Also curious to know how it went. I’ve got a 13 JK and thinking about it also
@@elcano9 Sounds like he can't pay for internet after the engine exploded into pieces. RIP 2013 Jeep. Haha. I would be interested to hear how it's doing.
Brent! Thanks for the review. I am pretty sure I'm going to go this route. Knowing you from the days when Kim first started the S197 forum, I know you are a no-BS, reliable guy. Your opinion carries a lot of weight with me. We're still rockin' our Mustangs... but its gonna be nice for this jeep to get a little pep!
Good, informative video about the features of this supercharger
Thanks
Chrysler throttles these engines to about 75% power until 5500RPM, the tune Edelbrock gives you with this kit unlocks the factory limiter. You can get a tune from a reputable tuner that will give your JK a BUNCH more power without spending this kind of money... and its already under your hood. I had my rig in for service while forgetting to set my tune back to stock, dealer was none the wiser.
What tuner are you running, recommending? Thanks
Just ordered this kit yesterday for my 2door 2012 JK. It's on 35s and 3.73 gears. I still plan on going to 4.56 gears eventually.
AWESOME
Bought a 2014 with the super charger already installed!! Love it!!
Good choice!
Love that kit. Question....are additional pulleys available to up the boost a tiny bit more? Thanks.
Brent can tell me from your experience what a 2016 Mustang GT standard with a phase 1 supercharger roughly do on a quarter mile run
Thanks for the video! This was excellent!
Now that you have had the kit for several months, has your review changed at all? I was looking for a 16' JKU RUBI, and I know I have to swap the ECU. Thanks!
I'm looking at putting this on my 2015 jku sport. Can you still do a snorkel with this one?
Do you need to stay away from water with kit like this?
If u have a stock keep that’s a nice mod of u have 37s and up get a v8 even if the hp is close much less drama with a v8 especially if u plan On keeping it
Do you need a certain shop to install it to keep the warranty I heard it's 3 years? Where can I find the price of the kit at a dealer or the website thank you
Now we need the Edelbrock for the JL !!
Good for the 2011 JK?
I would love for you guys to come out with a pulley and tune kit for this thing. I have this supercharger on my 2012 wrangler, love it but I think the motor has more in it. Edlebrock gives you a "safe" tune. I think it could handle having a some of the timing that they took out put back in.
J.D we are looking into this for customers. No ETA at this time but its on the To Do list for sure!!
Brenspeed Awesome!
Would this mean that I can’t mud and trail anymore?🥺
Hi Brent, great video, thanks for sharing.
1. I would like to know if this kit allows for different pulleys, I would like to be up between 10 and 14 psi. Is this possible?
2. Also did you guys adjust the tune on this or was it the tune that came with the kit?
Thanks in advance.
Congrats on your business success so far.
MDL Limousines we currently do not offer smaller pulleys but we may summer 2018. This is currently running the Edelbrock calibration that early on we would tweak and load with an SCT device. Currently there have been updates to this process and the computer is shipped to Edelbrock and directly flashed.
What would the 3.8 supercharger with manual transmission and 33's stock get for mpg?
Not good - depends on heavy your boots are ...
Wow needed this video
Thanks!
Cool video, very informative. Wil l be able to continue using 87 octano? Or do I have to move to 92 octane?
90 or higher octane.
Great Video
Thanks Joe
I can't seem to find this kit for a 2015. Only 12-14.
Rocky, This kit will work for a 15 but your engine computer will need unlocked and custom programmed. So it does work perfect on a 15 we just need to do some custom programming work. We can do this here at Brenspeed for you and the process is exactly the same as what we used for our Jeep in the video. Please give us a call with other questions about the process. It does not add too much to the price of the package and is very straight forward.
Just got off the phone with these guys, great customer service and very knowledgeable staff!
Super Charger vs Hemi conversion... Seems the Hemi conversion is still a little better (better torque) and you can still add power to the Hemi. But the light weight package a S/C 3.6 offers is nice too. decisions decisions...
Great point!
Long term review? Still running this? Any problems at all? I'm considering for my 2016 6 speed. Thanks. Do you really HAVE to run premium all the time?
YES still have it! With all superchargers you really need premium, 90 or higher. I run 93 here in Indiana and it runs strong.
What is the oil that gets changed every 100k miles? Is it the water mixture in the tank or something else?
The supercharger oil. Not the water mixture. It is the oil that is contained inside the supercharger.
Not this super charger related altho i am looking into getting one, but you just hit 100 in a lifted wrangler with 35s. What lift, suspension, steering combination are you running???
Terra Flex 3.5 lift package that is about it.
@@BrenspeedEngineering sweet! Thanks for the reply man! Awesome review!
I have a 2016 jku. Do u still recommend? Also should it be professional installed ?
Yes for sure they work great on the 16. I would suggest being pro installed unless you are capable. I would say if you can change brakes, exhaust manifolds, exhaust, etc... you are talented enough to install this. If you can't change your own brakes do not attempt have a pro.
Brent. Can you do this to my 02 wrangler ? I just put a fresh 4.0 in it. I need your help
Sorry we do not have a kit for the 02 wrangler.
How do you know what gears you are riding, what else would I have to do to the suspension? Sorry guys I’m a noob coming from a 335
You can get it from the diff tag and google it, or you can jack it up and rotate the tire 1 full turn and count how many time the driveshaft spins. However many times it spins would be your gear ratio so it may spin 3 times then half way so your gears are 3.XX depending on how much it spins.
What do U have for the 2011 jk with 3.8 auto?
There's a supercharger kit for the 3.8 from another manufacturer Magnuson made one and then Sprintex makes one and I think ripp makes one but uses a vortec it's not a roots supercharger it's a centrifugal
i have a 2012 jeep rubicon automatic transmission 4:10 35 inch tires and a 2.5 inch lift , would you recommend a ripp supercharger or edelbock ?
barbel1976 I have ran both. My personal preference is Edelbrock because I enjoy the torque available so early in the power curve.
barbel1976 get the edlebrock. 50 state legal, boost everywhere, and much cleaner looking.
You'll enjoy the lower rpm power more with it. The ripp adds little power at lower rpm
A Roots type (blower) like this Edelbrock or twin screw like Sprintex would be preferred for off the line acceleration and flat torque bands offering good torque at lower rpm. Centrifugal types such as RIPP offer more boost at higher rpm but require you to be in the higher rpms to provide boost, more appropriate for a high revving sports car. The Edelbrock looks like a great, relatively maintenance free option. I love that it has twin stage intercooling, which I think is important with a Roots system as they generate more heat (which translates into potential power loss) than other type of superchargers.
Elderbrock needs to make a kit, for the cyclone mustangs.
Maybe some day!
Ripp comes with the single intercooler
and gives a 120 extra hp. You claim yours is only 100
Extra hp. I don’t own either. Can u give a review of the difference with the cost is 5-7000
For this. Thanks.
Main difference is these are two completely different styles of superchargers. I have used RIPP also. They use a vortech or paxton head unit which means you build boost with RPM. So say at under 3,000 rpm you would have no boost and then it comes with with rpm. The higher the RPM the more boost. Edelbrock is instant full boost (tvs style supercharger) so no waiting on the low end torque to hit. It hits right when you put the pedal to the floor.
Do I’m have 37 tire on my jeep now be ok with supercharger on my jeep ?
Yes 37's and a supercharger is just fine. It is done all the time. THANKS
Brenspeed thanks
Have a 2015 Jeep Jk w/ this supercharger that was installed by prior😅 owner and love it but is impossible to find anyone who knows how to work on one .. The prior owner kept the tuner and getting one from Eldenbrock is like trying to talk to God !!
Upgrades for my 2015 Jeep AEV JkU .. The supercharger has done well up to 87,000 miles .. Definitely improved the Performance of the Pentastar V6 .. Due to the fact that I am unable to locate someone that can service the system I am dumping it .. I am putting the AMW 4x4’s 6.4 Hemi in my Jeep Wrangler JKU AEV .. It is very expensive but I love the interior and looks of the 2015’s and the lack of all the newest tech .. I had the choice of buying a new Rubicon for 60k plus the winches, bumpers, etc or upgrading my 2015’s for 50k which includes a 8 speed tranny, new drive shafts and new Ten Factory Rubicon Dana 44 Rear 32 Spline Axle Kit and basically having a new Jeep w/ my older Chassis ..
Is that on stock internals? do you need to make any mods to the engine?
That's stock engine. I think I have 20k miles on that kit so far no issues and I drive it pretty hard. THANKS for watching!
Brenspeed getting ready to purchase one for my 14 JKUR, is the bugs all worked out? I only have 36k ,miles on it and it’s on 37” with 5:13’s. Plus I have a Superchips TrailDash 2 and sounds like I need a new pcm since Superchips corrupts a file
@@BrenspeedEngineering any updates? or issues you had long term? or what to watch for? or keep an eye on? THank you!
I don't get how changing horsepower changes the way the transmission acts. The trans doesn't know the engine has more power. Its going to change gears at the same points in the power band as it would with 100 horsepower or 500 horsepower. Unless transmissions don't work the way they use to.
Its not the way it used to be for sure. Tons of torque tables are calculating a lot of trans functions. Way different than back in the day when it was just speed, throttle position or RPM.
STUDEBAKER GOLDEN HAWK AND SILVERHAWK AND THE AVANTI ALL HAD A Engine 289 CID, 275 HP Supercharged V8; SUPERCHARGED ENGINE 1957 - 1963
Thanks for watching!
I purchased a 2012 Wrangler Sport and had one of these installed, there is ZERO torque until 3200rpm. It also has a CEL (P0330) and will not pass inspection in NY. I am still trying to get it sorted out. The lack of what I consider low end torque is really disappointing, maybe I am just spoiled by my other vehicles, I am not used to winding the piss out of an engine just to get any power/torque. With 35" tires, 6th gear is useless even on the highway if there is any incline. Like I said, I may just be spoiled.
Mike Schmauss you may have more than one problem. First you shouldn't be getting a knock sensor code. That code could likely pull spark which could affect your low end. Assuming everything is installed correctly you get boost much earlier than most kits. So either you have an expectation problem like you mentioned, but the fact you are getting CEL lights does say you have a mechanical problem. I would take it back to your installer and have them resolve it. You should have no CEL lights with this kit if running the Edelbrock calibration. If your running another type calibration well then that could be part of the problem. Really it should go back to the installer to get one, or more than one, issue sorted out.
Thanks for responding. My installer said he had a CEL on his and Edelbrock gave him a V3 calibration (or something like that). I called Edelbrock and they said that particular code is not their problem. I took it back to my installer and he switched knock sensors and still had the same code. It may be a wiring harness issue which I am told is a real bitch the way the wires are run. The vehicle only has 1100 miles on it, I am already thinking about my first Jeep's reliability. :-( When it hits 3200rpm it is like someone flips a power switch on, none before that. (?)
Mike Schmauss I can offer two pieces of advise. 1. Either that code is causing spark to be pulled down low, and yes, your Edelbrock calibration does not cause that code is something mechanical. 2. Bypass valve possibly set up wrong and not closing properly. All could be resolved by a qualified shop. It's all guessing without proper diagnoses. Good luck hope you figure it out!
Thanks for the advice Brent. If I can't get it sorted out locally I may have to take a trip to Indiana. :-)
UPDATE: Edelbrock said I needed a software update from Jeep so I took it to the dealer. The dealer updated the software and now the Jeep won't run. They have tried several new programs from SCT and it won't even start now. Now they are sending the ECU (or whatever) to see if SCT can fix the problem. What a nightmare.
Did you set the speedo if not you never hit 100 mph. Next question how much is this upgrade. And last do you have to swap your ecu?
noobtoob nooby thanks for posting. Here is a link to the Superchargers. The link has pricing. 2014 and prior you won't need to remove the computer. 2015-17 you will need to remove it so we can modify it to accept the calibration. You can also use the supplied programmer to do things like adjust speedo, turn off traction control, tire size, etc... thanks!
www.brenspeed.com/trucks-jeep-superchargers.html
So people don’t get confused: if you add bigger tires and don’t adjust your speedometer you’ll be going faster than the speedometer says.
So, he’d be going well over 100.
Can this go on a 3.6L Grand Cherokee?
Here is a link to the Edelbrock kits available www.edelbrock.com/shop/superchargers.html
Technically it should..but there is no adapter kit for the Cherokee :( which they should make for the grand cherokees out there.
What’s the gas mileage with something like this???
John Jacob shit
The supercharger does affect MPG in a negative way is it makes the engine more efficient.
It's shit - but you don't get a "Wrangler" for gas mileage ...
World of difference
Is it better than the RIPP KIT?
Mskem Bailey I prefer instant full boost as a TVS style supercharger gives you that. A RIPP is a centrifugal design which builds boost with RPM. It’s a personal preference thing, but for me I normally run a TVS design like the Edelbrock.
I timed it to 6.80 from 0 to 60
Thank you. I took a guess on 7. Hehe
Is the drivetrain capable of handling the power
WISE ARCADIAN yes we have seen zero issues. The engine is very strong and the trans has been holding up nicely. Thanks!
Brenspeed
Thank you.
How much does it cost
Check out the product page on our website for pricing.
How much you got? ;D ;D
How about off road?
Yep that kit works off road just fine thanks for watching
"The zero to 60 on this Wrangler is... fast. It's a lot like a modern muscle car, I would say." I would assume you're not talking about a V8 Mustang/Camaro/Challenger/Charger, because those are all hitting 60 in under 5 seconds, and I would expect an Unlimited JK not to be breaking into even the 6s...
lol
But will your Mustang do 0 to 60 in 6 seconds on the Rubicon trail... in mud? ;D
Put this kit on my Wife's Town and Country! Lol
1stStLversys whoa lol that would b awesome
You say you don't lose fuel economy but you didn't mention you need 91 octane now.
Correct all superchargers require premium. Thanks for watching!
Cost?
Here is the info from the description.
Taking the Edelbrock Supercharged Wrangler for a test drive. Here is a link to the Edelbrock Supercharger! www.brenspeed.com/jeeps-jeep-p...
Need an install quote? Email quote@brenspeed.com
Check out www.brenspeed.com
What’s the cost of the supercharger?
Hi if you click the link in the description it will take you to the superchargers where you can pick your year and see current pricing. THANKS
What gears are in that Jeep?
He said it had the 3.21's. Ew....lol
factory warrenty?..whats that?..i bought my jeep brand new and had misfire codes at 1300 miles,..had to fight tooth and nail with jeep to get it fixed,..to the dealer a dozen times with no fix...found a dealer in sandy utah who actually replaced the cylinder heads,..massive head ache with jeep getting this fixed,..not to mention the trans shifting problems,..joke,..will i buy another new jeep?...hell no!!!
Scott Wells some dealers way better than others. That’s why I suggest talking to dealers about warranty when you buy a new vehicle , and making a connection with them before you sign the deal.,glad you finally got it taken care of!
welcome to subaru problems....we Sti guys alllll deal w factory installed P0303 misfire codes carry a 10mm w ya to reset the battery lol
Should have swapped gears first.
Thanks for watching!
"that was awesome" haha. That was the most unenthusiastic reaction I've ever seen.
LOL
bye bye factory warranty
LOL warranty on a jeep. funny joke
butt 😂 mine dont have it anyway
warranties are for poons
Chances are if you’re at the point where you’re supercharging your jeep, you’ve done enough work to void you warranty already. I’ve heard stories of dealerships voiding the entire vehicle warranty just because the customer has a lift kit that the dealership didn’t install
at 2:24 you say you dont notice an effect on gas mileage. How? A supercharger adds parasitic loss to the engine, and the system itself adds weight. How can you corroborate such a wild claim?
Not all the time because the boost in power removes strain on engine meaning less throttle to maintain speed equals better fuel mileage at cruising speeds usually 1-5mpg during highway use in a JK. At WOT it does because much more fuel is needed for proper combustion because the effective engine compression ratio increases due to boost.
You obviously don't know how a supercharger works...there is no boost at cruising/idle speeds. The only loss would the be the effort it takes to spin a bearing and the free wheeling rotor pack, which is less than your AC when its on. As far as weight...do you notice a significant loss in MPG when you fill up your rig with fuel? A full tank of gas weighs around 130lbs....lol. Schools out.
corroborate such a wild claim. dude this isnt academia, this is youtube, you can use common vocabulary. stop trying to act like a genius
stock gears, super charged, and over sized tires. Good bye drive shafts and transmission.
Luckily I have put 20,000 miles on this set up and my shafts are good.
@@BrenspeedEngineering for now, they're not going to instantly blow up from extra stress. But you will find the torque converter with more wear than normal, and the CV joints on the shafts will have more wear as well, and without regearing and stock drive shafts run a higher risk of catastrophic failure. I have a 2008 Wrangler with 168k miles. I have seen what parts don't like big tires, and power adding will complicate it further. Plus if you have the proper gearing in the axle for the tires, you'll see a superior torque delivery over what you have now.