How The $30 Million 'Super Scooper' Plane Was Built To Fight Wildfires
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- Опубликовано: 15 мар 2021
- This $30 million Super Scooper is the only plane in the world that was designed specifically to fight wildfires. The aircraft performs a dangerous dive down to a body of water, scoops up 1,400 gallons of water in 12 seconds, and drops its load of water on raging forest fires. We went inside this massive aircraft to find out how it works, what it takes to fly it, and why it’s considered the most efficient aerial-firefighting aircraft in the world.
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How The $30 Million 'Super Scooper' Plane Was Built To Fight Wildfires
As a firefighter, we love these. We call them dippsy ducks, or just ducks. When firefighters here in Alaska get in a tight spot, the sound of this thing coming is like an angel saying, "(here to help)".
Thank you for doing the job you do. You guys save lives, wildlife, and are overall badass people.
like your version of the A-10
They should have speakers playing when the winged hussars arrived and other stirring cavalry arriving songs 😂
Wish we had a couple hundred of these. But, this is a perfect example of stealing tax dollars... Like the the remote controlled camera fitted helicopters they 8se to see fires from above and that for some reason cost $80,000...maybe if they didn't call it a drone it would be cheaper...
❤️ Thank you for your service, I wish the best of lucks, always!
My Dad was chief designer for the Waterbomber . It was brought to market in 1969 as the CL-2-15 (Canadair Limited). A stamp was issued by Canada post. I sheets of them. My father passed in 2017 at the age of 97.
Big respect to your father
@@misuom84they need to stop setting fires in greece
These guys are a blessing! They flew over my house and saved our property! Thank you all so much for what you do!! Continue fighting the good fight!!
“30 million dollars is very expensive for any aircraft”
Military jets: Hold my beer
It is a nice looking plane. But for 30 million dollars that's a little pricey for a plane that can only do one thing. For that amount of money a Erickson Air Crane® Helicopter ( S-64 ) would be a better investment as to the many things the helicopter can do. True the maintenance cost would be more for the S-64 , but the S-64 can do so many things when it comes to generating revenue.
What would be the price of property saved in a wildfire ?
@@w.maximilliandejohnsonbour725 how much water that eriksson can take at ne time? and how quick will the heli need to fill up the water?
@@fly89 The S-64 E and F can carry 2,650 gallons (about 10,000 liters) of water or retardant in a tank installed precisely in line with the rotor. The helitankers can hold a maximum 2,650 gallons of water and drop more than 25,000 gallons every hour. Also the helitankers or skycranes can get water from any location like a swimming pool , lake , river , streams etc. Any where there is water for a quick turn around trip.
@@cowwhisperer8927 Quicker turn around to extinguish a fire would prevent less loss of property and most important which you forgot to mention is the loss of life which should be paramount in any equation. Property can be replaced. A life that is loss to fire cannot be replaced.
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@Marquerite Olay woah, nice bots!
Lmao
Hey at least you can have some cooked fish if the fire havent go away yet
There are only 8 Super Scooper planes in the country, and all of them are in New Mexico right now helping us fight back the massive fires we're experiencing right now. Thank you so much to the brave pilots of these planes! 💖
The real people you should be thanking are the brave politicians risking their lives to lobby for better fire fighting efforts.
@@DoisKoh Oh yeah, the politicians, totally....
This one was made in French Canada . QUEBEC!
@@DoisKoh You are hilarious.. Truly hilarious
Only 8 for all of the USA? Isn't that too few?
I mean, Spain has 18 of them, and they could use more...
Imagine feeling the difference of draft piloting that thing from when it drops tons and tons of weight in a matter of seconds
Must feel like a rocket pulling you in your seat, when all that lift suddenly has no weight to counterbalance, and that plane rips right upwards!
An interesting thing about this a/c is the bow is armoured. If picking up loads in forested lakes there are often old stumps and logs just below the surface. They would punch through normAL a/c with no problem. That is why the bow is made of heavier aluminum.
I didn't even think about that
I've experienced such hits when travelling on the large hydrofoil vessel @ 70 km/h. It's horrible.
Aluminium is a soft metal, like brass. Aluminium armour makes no sense.
@@TheSiriusEnigma I used to work for a company where we made armour plating for the f35 all from aluminium it's all to do with how its treated in the ageing process the more we'd age it the tougher it was
@@TheSiriusEnigma of course, aircrafts are made of aluminium alloys, not pure aluminum. Their properties differs widely. This 'armor' is against half-submerged wooden debris, not against ammunition.
It’s worth it considering how much fire destroys.
This $30 million plane could save $300 million of assets on the ground in one season.
I dont understand this. Meanwhile greece, turkey and italy is burning to the ground, why they dont buy some of these wth
@@strength4147 france italy and croatia are helping with these exact aircrafts to fight the fires- idk why greece and turkey dont have them though
@@strength4147 because those communist countries deserve it
Algerie also is 🥵 also burning (north Africa)
I remember when I fought fires in northern Ontario, we wore orange nkmex gear. A pilot told us when you call us in stay clear. If you start to run I think the fire is spreading and I'll aim for you. Seeing this thing up close and in the field was impressive and these pilots along with the chopper pilots we had were simply amazing.
What's it like getting hit with dropping water?
@@squeeze1321 only happened onece and it had foam it on so it wasn't a great time lol.
@@squeeze1321 that much water is very heavy so probably not great
@@koisolare we def fight fired differently here, there's so many water sources that water is neevr really a concern. Small fired we alway try an put them out, lots are started by trains and people. We either use high rail or logging roads to get in, but also use choppers a lot since so much remote area. Rarely do we use hand tools for fire breaks it always water. This year was brutal and fires were out of control you just do you best and they often burn themselves out. We had a fast thaw and the ground was still frozen then no rain in the spring was perfect storm. Out west where you are it's a whole different style for sure
That is one purpose-built wing. The lift of that thing must be amazing. I'm surprised they didn't mention the aircraft's behavior after dropping the load. That must be quite an "uplifting" experience.
These air crews deserve some respect, holy crap that’s a dangerous job
Dangerous but so excilirating
Good money, high adventure
The west coast needs a fleet of these things. They’re far more essential than a wing of F35s.
Speaking of a waste of taxes, the recall will cost Californians hundreds of millions and less than 1% of our population approved this. You people despise democracy so much that you won’t honor the results of any election unless you win.
@@RyVDL democrats did the same when trump won. theyre all just a bunch of tools.
Yes, because widespread disbelief is the same as trying to overthrow the government.
I’d say we are at the point where these planes have a global market.
Can you imagine if each west coast state had a fleet of four of these (two in CA)? Then, with a multi-state compact, a force of 12 to 18 of these craft could be brought to bear on outbreaks. Mix and match with both larger and smaller craft already attempting to serve, it would be a huge benefit. Biggest problem: What to do with them in the 'off-season'. Lease out?
The CL-415 and its predecessors are among the best things to ever come out of Canada! Cheers from Ottawa! 🇨🇦
Hey, what about Tim Horton’s?
Don't forget our Robertson square drive screws and screwdrivers.
Haweater, exactly well said, you from Manitoulin island ?
@@Tomhohenadel Yes, "how could you tell??"
Worked on the island years ago for the MNR at Sandfield. Haweaters are great
I got to see one of these in action in Croatia recently, and it was amazing.
There was a fire high up in the Velebit mountains that you could see but could not easily access by land, so one of these things came from nowhere and started dumping water onto this fire. It must have been dumping and picking up every 3 minutes, since the mountains are literally on the coast.
Truly an awesome thing to watch, sending love to the talented Croatian Airforce pilots! ❤
Saw videos of this. The maneuvers! Now if prevention was even possible, but no way.
Basically the A-10 of the firefighting world. When you hear it's engines roaring in the distance, you know help is on the way.
Scooper Vs Warthog: CAS
Flying low and slow to theatres this June.
A-10? Junkers, baby.
You don't really hear turbo props until they are right there.
Zsu-23-4 AAA would like to have a word... The A-10 warthog is literally only decent at its job in an air superiority environment. Any fighters, and or AA will shred A-10's.
When you hear the whistle of the A-10 gun you know your f’d
I worked on this program for over 25 years while at Canadair/Bombardier. Great times; never had the success it deserved.
Well, I don't agree. We use them in Croatia and we all actually call them Canadairs. We all know how many lives and property they saved, and we are very proud of them and pilots flying them. We know that they will go where humans cannot go, and only bura (special wind in Croatia) and nightfall stops them. We've also sent our Canadairs to help put out big fires in other countries as Israel, Greece or Portugal. You should be proud of them, because we really love them - one of the few things that aren't a waste of taxpayers money!
@ Stan, My dad was a designer on the CL 215 and the mod on the 415 with the turboprop engines. His name is Ted Forster who is now 95 years old, maybe you knew him. He retired from Canadair in 1992.
I lived about a mile from Canadair when I was a kid in the 60s. We had the coolest aircraft flying over our house. LOL. Millar Street, near Poirier and Decarie.
You are so wrong, the entire Mediterranean salutes you! Just because it is not used in US does not mean it was not succeful. Their engines for us sounds like music. Cheers from Greece
its relative low order number is because... the damn things just fly forever! Even ancient 215s kept flying long hours in tough missions, long times with few issues. I remember reading somewhere that their toughness kept them from replacement until a total refit was due (from 215 to 415) for a given country.
Imagine being the guy who was first given the task to engineer a whole plane that picks up water then releases it all in one flight
Canadians were the only pilots crazy enough to fly the CF-215.
Yup. Maple leaf forever.
@@berryboi5447 l e a f s
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It was Canadair engineers and most of them were military engineers. This plane was made alongside with the cf-5's in Montréal. 😉
While I was working at Bombardier (previously called Canadair) the plane was referred to as the Canadair CL415 Water-bomber .
We still call them Canadair in Greece
who the Fck is Bombardier, we call them god damn planes Canadair anyway,
@your Ego oDildo, we still call them Canadair in Turkia, also?! 😁
Why the hell is it called bombardier? That's the name of planes that drop bombs in french. We call them Canadair.
@@iliveinyourwalls5193 it’s the name of the family which owns Canadair.
Joseph-Armand Bombardier
@@carminemendicino1578 damn I didn't know that. In any case I don't think it was a good idea to change. Canadair was a brand known all over the world.
This is the civilian Top Gun.
When I see pictures of these fighting fires in the US with that glorious Québec flag on it's side, I just can't help myself, makes me smile everytime!
Converting all the imperial in this video to normal units of measure:
How much water it can carry: 1400 gallons = 5300 liters
How much water early models could carry (150-200 gallons):
150 gallons = 570 liters
200 gallons = 760 liters
How much it weighs:
30.000 pounds = 13.6 tons
Height: 30 ft=9.1m
Wingspan: 93ft= 28.3m
Rudder: 80sq ft=7.5sq meters
It needs to slow down to 103mph=165kmh
After it fills up it is 11.000 pounds heavier=5 tons
Where different planes make the drop from:
800 feet= 240m
300 feet= 90m
100 feet= 30m
It can deliver 150.000 gallons of water in one service day = 570.000 liters
Now the video makes more sense. Thanks bro
Thanks
Thanks :)
Hero.
You sir, are a true legend
2:38 when your animator has no idea how a plane works, so they just wiggle it
I think thats just them saving money on animation
@@PaleRejent but still, he has no idea
This is the kind of animation that's so confusing it can make aeronautical engineers wonder how it works
the animation is so bad it wouldve been better if they just didn't include it
They could have used the first animation for all three movements. I you want, you can see every rotation in that one animation :D
Here in Croatia we use these often on large wildfire, I think they're made by Canadian company Canadair , which is pretty much how we call them. There are several variants of them. And they are a life savers, it's hard fighting fires without them.
As a quebec citizen i am proud you like our little linvention
@@urboyjames5853 Its not little, your planes have saved my country greece. Look what is happening every summer in greece. Unfortunately, warmongers dont want to invest, to those aircrafts to improve the production line, but they are pushed us to buy f35 and more war planes.Of course there is climate change, but its also an excuse by corrupted politicians.(My father used to be a seaman, he used to tell me that canadian people are the most gentle people in the world and the sceneries of your country are astonishing)
@@gvragv9317 There is another side effect of warmongers, not just your's, but their bosses', the ones just south from where Canadiars are made. Russian planes and helicopters are not fighting fires in Greece any more.
BTW, I flew in one of the old CL-215 Greece bought from Yugoslavia when I was, well, much younger. Unfortunately it crashed a few years ago.
The guys who fly these planes are some of the most bad-ass people out there. Skills, determination, risk, dedication. Hats off!
I used to live in British Columbia in the 60's, and the grandfather to this plane that they mention, was always on Sprout Lake. Got to see it do practice runs quite often when we camped at the lake. Pretty impressive.
Ah, the Hawaii Mars and the Philippine Mars water bombers. I visited here last year, but it was closed to visitors. I walked in anyway and asked a mechanic if I could take a few pictures. He said I needed authorization and directed me to Port Alberni airport to Coulson's headquarters. So I went there and talked to the CEO and was granted access. I went back to "tanker base" as they call it and took my pictures with a staffer who met me at the gate. Those planes are huge!
My buddy had a cabin on Sproat Lake in my teens and we went canoeing across the lake when one of the bombers decided to take off on that very lake. It felt like we were right in its path when it lifted off right in front of us it seemed. It took awhile before that big bird could climb up to an altitude that would allow it to pass over the surrounding mountains.
They actually didn't mention the Martin Mars in this video. Politics shut them down in 2016.
These guys have to know about flying on air, flying on water, targeting and firefighting. Hats off.
The wright brothers are one of the people who would be happy when they see this masterpiece
Everything would go dark for them when they see fighters, bombers, etc
Wouldn’t they be two people happy to see that...
@@etunimi1208 correct thank you for the correction
nohh they'll find it expensive too.
@@thelagginggamer1309 blame people who made guns in the first place.
Look like, now, we need these ten times more than ever . . . if not more.
Yeah. One of my friend is a firefighter and he has been against flames in France, Italy, Spain etc. This year he has been sent to fight the fires in Greece and Algeria, he told me how scared he was. He has never seen such fires.
@@XR190190 ppppppp0
@@XR190190 us in the western united states are absolutely burnt out from dealing with it for years. Best of luck to our colleagues across the world in there new normal.
@@josephapawelczyk
It will get worse in the future. I feel bad for anyone born in 60 years from now.
We definitely need this kind engineering marvels.. Hopefully we can produce more and be more prepared for the events.
Think a better and best solution would be to stop climate change and use goats.
@@ravindranathhospital1362 cool idea! Million of hysterical Greta's would love to care for your stubborn Goat's in the romantic wildernesses!
The rest of us would be delighted by the peace..
Win win situation 👍
Greta and her fanatic followers are said to be desperate developing and handling this systemic racist technology!
Our World is almost saved 🧸🤗
@@OmmerSyssel damn dude, this is just sad. I hope you get deprogrammed some day, you probably have family that misses you.
unless you're taking about an aircraft itself being a marvel, I wouldn't call this a marvel, its just a specialized propeller plane
5:37 me too
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😂😂😂😂 i laugh so freaking hard😂
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hahahaha
I see these flying over and putting out forest fires every summertime in Croatia. It's a majestic sight seeing them doing low flyovers. The legendary Kanader, as they're known here.
Kanader refers to the CL in the CL 215-415 which means it was designed by Canadair. Canadair was an amazing aircraft design and manufacturing company based in the province of Quebec, Canada. Canadair's most famous designs included the 215-415's, the CL-600's Challenger Jet which would grow into the very successful CRJ line of regional jets and the remarkable CL-84. It's nice to know the CL 415's are helping so much all around the world.
doberdan....kakoste??
miss one of my favorite city ever ... Split!! from Montréal.
@@mic7504 we have order also 2 new 515 CL, but who knows when will they arrive in Croatia. But yellow birds does beautifull job,we also help to nations around us when big fires are included, slovenia bosnia,greece,turkey, even israel
Had several of these planes fighting fires up here in western Montana a couple weeks ago. Life and property savers at any cost.
Wow. What an amazing purpose built aircraft. I never knew there was so much to these planes. Very impressive. And doing an incredibly important job.
Firefighters: "30 million is very expensive for any aircraft."
Me: WTF is USAF Doing
This plane made in Canada not fkg usa
@@ziatvall686 he is taking about the us air force and how there planes are so expensive🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
Ya and look at that cockpit does not look like 30 million. No synthetic visions or anything.
the military has been spraying the hell out of us since BHO. Wake up. It is all legal. This shit is buried in all of these huge spending bills, etc.
@@girlssome3832 Nobody said its illegal. Just that it seems to be unnecessarily expensive.
And its still only partly true. Military aircraft are simply a lot more complex which always drives up costs for both development and production.
Of course even with that you can't fully explain the money sink that the F35 ended up being. That was one of those "seemed like a good idea at the time" projects that should have been replaced a long, long time ago. Its great that they can use a single plane for all military operations but given that the "same" plane has to be basically completely reconfigured for every purpose (army, navy, etc) that ended up providing a lot less benefit than they'd originally hoped for, but still drove up the per-unit production cost significantly (I think I saw $100m per plane? More than double the F16s currently in service).
Its hard to say exactly when the F35 should have had the plug pulled. It fell well into the sunk cost fallacy and that's always a tricky one to analyze much deeper than "yup that turned out to be a bad choice", even with the benefit of hindsight. But regardless of when anyone thinks it _should_ have been cancelled, it never was. So there's now a few hundred in service and several hundred more scheduled for production. And I mean over the expected life of a military jet, a few hundred million isn't _that_ big a dip into even the US military budget never mind the larger US economy. Its perhaps somewhat wasteful but its not nearly as big of a deal as political pundits (on either side of the debate) would have you believe.
The aircrafts are a must to fight forests fires and worth every penny
this one isn't. its only 1400 gallons
@@frankyflowers 1400 gallons up to 10 drops an hour, versus a huge tanker that has to land to pump its tanks full again which can only fly perhaps a drop per hour or even longer. Add in that they often fly in groups to mount sustained attacks and it gives the fire a sustained beating, rather than a big punch occasionally. Also think of how a fire will continue and grow in the time between passes, they can grow enough in an hour that you'd not even know there was a drop 60 minutes ago. Sustained attack with short intervals between drops is the way to go. If the big birds were effective, then why are all 3 of the tanker-converted 747's grounded and inactive? The answer is they're not efficient, can't land at small airstrips, need huge temporary tanks or large water mains to refill and their cycle times take forever, plus the maintenance costs on them are astronomical. Sure, the 747s hold 19,600 gallons, but what about bad drops? They have to fly way higher that the CL-415's so their accuracy sucks and the dispersion is massive, and if they miss entirely its still another hour or whatever for them to land, tank up, take off and fly back to the fire. These CL-415's are the A-10 Warthog of water bombers, they're dump-trucks that can fly low & slow and nothing else does their job quite as well.
These air crews deserve some respect, holy crap that’s a dangerous job. These air crews deserve some respect, holy crap that’s a dangerous job.
They should of called it the “Super soaker”.
Bruh, fr
*should've.
why not the “Scooper Soaker”
@@thereckon3592 shut up
@@meepman2164 Can't stand "should of" anymore. I've had it.
Built Canadian proud never been more happy to see Canadian engineering respected
It's designed and made in Montana.
@@scottulrich2725 No..................it's not.
@@scottulrich2725 I believe the first three updated CL415EAF's (retrofitted and restored CL 215, CL 215T's) were bought by Bridger Aerospace Group of Bozeman, Montana. But the work to restore and retrofit these planes is being done by Viking Air's partner Cascade Aerospace in Abbotsford British Columbia. Viking Air of Victoria BC bought the Type rights to build new CL 215 - CL 415's from Bombardier Quebec. Viking has announced it also plans to start building a new "improved " CL- 415 called the CL-515. Much like it did with the relaunch of the Twin Otter, Viking will update the avionic and engine all while cutting mass and improving durability. But a retrofitted CL215's is reported to cost $30 million or almost exactly 25% less than a new CL- 515.
@@scottulrich2725 Weak sauce troll
@@scottulrich2725 lol you have one of these in America we over have 80 of them in Canada it's our plane get over it dude it will always will be just like it has been for the last 30 some odd years
I watched these planes on the Columbia River scoop up the water. There were about 50 boats and a few of us on land watching. Amazing to see.
Here in Greece we have lots of them and both planes and pilots have been real troopers can't describe the gratitude and what a life saviors they have been
Share a video with the rest of us?
Would be great watching something functional for common good in the Mediterranean area.. 😁
There are zero of these in greece lol..
@@easysteezy58 the guy commenting probably means like other firefighting planes, not this one in particular
PM Mitsotakis weiss ganz genau, dass seine Wasserbomber (2 Stück) total veraltet sind (30 Jahre). 1 ist auch promt abgestürzt!!!
I love the cl 215 and 415 I have seen them flyover my house every year during fire season it’s always a treat to here the old Pratt and Whitney’s thundering over head and to see that Viking a Canadian company is working to give new life to the type makes me happy
Very costly to maintain.. weak hull.
I believe all pilots are brave, but these pilots are nothing short of well...brave. What an aircraft!
Wildfires in the West have gotten progressively more difficult to stop due to prolonged drought and that is unlikely to change anytime soon. We need as many different kinds of resources as possible to knock down these fires before they reach populated areas. This tanker is an awesome resource, glad to learn more about something I often see in the sky. Love the paint job, looks extra smart.
September 2018 I was in Orebic Croatia, smelled smoke, neighbors said "our hero's, the Canadians are coming" pointing skyward. Wah? At rooftops level flew those curious orange and red planes dropping water at the towns perimeter, then scooping up the ocean, repeating all afternoon. An amazing, unforgettable show of skill and daring. Yes, the town was saved.
The russians have jets that do this.
@@someotherdude Ya mean the one's that drop nerve-agent...?
@@citizenscience659 I guess he meant to say that Russian firefighter planes used 21 century technology ;) search for BE 200, you will get an idea
@@dmitriyskvortsov9650 Oh, yes of course Dmitriy.....so like a little 747 Super Tanker (but amphibious)....
@@citizenscience659 yeah a heard about great amphibious capabilities of this aircraft, unfortunately it can perfom it once in lifetime
It’s based on 1930’s design; I don’t know why he said it looks like no other aircraft.
Yeah wtf looks like tons of older canadian fire fighting planes.
The guy sounds kind of arrogant too.
@@omarandres5129 scam artist lmao
@@Andy-bt9pn as mentioned at 1:30, the CL415 is based on the CL215 so naturally, they look alike; but apart from that there are no other aircraft in the world that look like the 415
To your average joe it may look similar to other aircraft. But to the well trained eye, there are discernable differences. It's like how to a normal person, a 737 looks the same as a 777 or an A320 or a 767, but to someone who knows planes, they can tell them apart based on small differences. Or how some cars might all look the same to someone who knows nothing about cars, but somebody who knows them better can tell them apart based on differences in them.
But I'm just generalizing. I don't know for certain if this particular plane really does look just like other fire fighting planes, or if it's completely unique. I'm just saying, the differences between planes can be subtle if you don't know what to look for. Just like any other vehicle.
I live in Boise, ID and I have seen so many of these taking off from our airport recently! This video was great timing!
We have a home on Flathead lake Montana. The scoopers are scooping water every 3 minutes and 53 seconds. These planes are awesome. Thank you pilots for a great job.
Naming this monstrosity "Super scooper" is criminal. Name it "Fire Killer 2000 ultra Pro"
No super soaker 69420
@@legogonkdroid3792 Canadians prefer more modest names.
@@99hockeynhl well super soaker 200
Haha
iFire killer 2000 Ultra Pro Max, the most powerful aircraft Apple has ever created.
These pilots must be incredible pilots!! I have driven a fuel truck and you have to be very careful because of the huge amount of fuel splashing around and changing the weight load, I can't even imagine an airplane trying to fly and having to deal with this.
In Greece ,which has one of the largest fleet of these aircraft , many of the pilots are in their 50s
Engineer here: it has more to do with how full the tank is than how big the tank is. If you cram the tank 100% full like these planes are doing, there's no possibility for sloshing, and it's pretty safe. Dump the whole load, and once again, no sloshing. A fuel truck that only managed to deliver half a load is a worst case scenario. Not only do you have a liquid sloshing around, that liquid is _highly_ flammable
The tanker truck for the FD I was on holds 2000 gallons of water. When that thing was only half full it was difficult to drive, even with the baffles in the tank. After a fire we always tried to refill before going back to the station so we wouldn’t have to deal with the water sloshing in the tank.
@@MaineOffGrid. Free surface effect is a doozy.
Saw a few of these scooping while sitting in a pool in Sicily a while back. Absolutely incredible aircraft to watch.
Now that's mighty impressive design and engineering and the flying skills too of course!
From an aerodynamic point of view, the shorter the length of a twin engine aircraft, the larger the vertical stabiliser has to be, so that it can be used to counter an engine failure.
like how the 737-700 has the same vertical tail size as the 737-800 despite being significantly shorter.
Also depends on how much torque it applies based on the thrust and the distance of engine from center
"It's built like a tank and looks like no other aircraft in the world"
*laughs in PBY Catalina*
Lol correct
Yeah, very significant like cryptocurrency 💯
Laughs in A10 warthog
The engines are more like the Be-6 but yea, and at 1:03 they show a PBY super Catalina but it wasn't even used as a fire fighting thing (it couldn't hold water and had no Bombays, bombs were mounted on wing spars and it was used for surveillance during WWII because of it's long-range capabilities)
@@CanadianaEast I've only seen the Canso variant, with twin wing struts, not singles, like a PBY. In the summer, the province bases two CL-415's at our airport, they get quite a bit of use.
An informative and extremely well made story. Thanks to all who participated.
watched this plane in spain bloody marvelous bit of equipment ..well worth its money
They need this plane in Turkey and Greece
I remember several years ago watching Ice Pilots or whatever it's called. They had a full episode covering how they flew a couple of these water bombers from Canada to Turkey. So, Turkey definitely has at least a couple of these bad boys, but they probably need more regardless!
we have them
@@nikkelpickle they needed maintenance so they kept them all on the ground
Greece has one of the largest fleets and some of the most experienced pilots but we still need more . I hope Canada still builds these amazing and badly needed aircraft. Canada ,Greece Italy and Turkey are having the worst fires in decades
Nahh we will give 20 billion for fighter planes instead
I live near a big base that has a lot of these planes here in Quebec and I’ve been in one of them on the ground. They are really impressive from outside because they almost look like a boat!
Thor with a classic pilot voice
"It doesnt look like any other plane in the world" are we gonna ignore the beautiful PBY Catalina???
PBY is vaguely similar but wing root is very different and it's a much curvier aircraft with a narrowing, upswept aft fuselage. Mission profiles are day and night. Granted, they are more similar to each other than to much else that's flying. Grumman Albatross is is more similar to CL 415 but quite dumpy looking when compared to the Catalina.
Vickers Canada and Boeing Canada both manufactured large numbers Cansos (Canadian liscenced PBY Catalinas) during WWII. After the war Vickers Canada became a company called Canadair.
Canadair was looking for a future use for its massive manufacturing pant near Montreal. It found a buyer in the Government of France for its proposed completely new design water bomber. Canadair took its knowledge of amphibious aircraft manufacturing and created a plane able to carry almost twice as much water as converted Cansos. The Canadair CL-214.
Later ,while Bombardier owned the production rights, it would give them a tubo-prop engine upgrade creating the CL-415
Most recently Viking Air based in Victoria BC and Calgary AB bought the right for the CL-214 and CL-415 from Bombardier (who bought Canadair in 1988)
Viking Air is starting the manufacture of an improved version of the CL-415 called the Canadair CL-515 First Responder. It’s first customer is set to be Indonesia. Delivery is set for 2022.
There are other amphibious water bombing aircraft. But none with a design link directly to the Catalina.
Proudly engineered in Montreal Canada.
The CL-515 is now being built in Saanich, British Columbia.
Thanks Eh!
Canadians are the most weirdly patriotic country ever. Very American culture.
@@ethanstewart9970 Canucks are very, very different from Yanks. Canada has a "we" culture, the US is all "me".
I just feel honored to work on the CL415 and AT802 while being just a 20 year old boy! Love this airplane
Two of these beauties overnighted at the airport where I work for a commercial airline. Everyone was spending break time out photographing them. Glad I found this video - will share with all my equally fascinated coworkers!
These pilots are true heroes and the planes near damn mechanical angels. mad props!
I’m happy to see that Val Kilmer is doing fine.
Exactly that's what i was thinking but could'nt recall his name hahaha
Well he looks like Val, but the real McCoy ain't doing so well as he lost his voice to cancer...
In the meantime, the Turkish Ministry Of Agriculture And Forestry denied using these planes in wildfires of the local aviation institution "THK" which successfully intervene in wildfires in the last 30 years. They claimed these planes are outdated and old and these are 100liter below the standards. On July 28, wildfires appeared in multiple regions and cities in Turkey and it appeared that the Turkish Government didn't buy a single fire-fighting plane. They only hire a few Air Tankers and 20x Helicopters. This firefighting fleet cannot catch up with the multiple fires and they cannot intervene quickly. Unfortunately, hectares of forest and thousands of wildlife are burned.
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It’s amazing the wings don’t rip off when they drop that weight, and power into a climb at the same time.
The G forces put on those wings has to be insanely high, pretty amazing engineering, no wonder they cost $30 million each.
These aircraft saved my country alot of times.
Am I the only person who thinks this looks like Baloo’s plane, “The Sea Duck” from TaleSpin?
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These videos are so interesting, but it would be nice to have a metric system conversion for the rest of the world :)
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USA thinks it is the world.
@@andredeketeleastutecomplex we are
I recently grew an interest in watching technical videos about planes but the more I watch, the more I hate the americans with their stupid unit system! It takes me at least twice as long as the video itself to watch it because i have to calculate all the stupid ft and gallons into reasonable units.
@@electricpaisy6045 freedom units
Beautiful is the word of the day for these planes... and we LOVE that paint job !
0:35 it might just be because he builds a literal flying fire truck, but the aura of this guy simply radiates "cool"
Beautiful plane. Especially given its purpose. Had the opportunity of seeing four of them live, as they were putting out a great fire near my city on the coast of Croatia back in the Summer of 2012 in very difficult windy conditions. I was woken up early in the morning by the awesome sound of those engines.
Interesting, valuable activities in Croatia without neither local muslims, Feminists nor corruption involved??
EU subventions?
Living in greece I see these planes every summer because of the huge amount of wild fires here
There were just 3-4 of them rotating on a fire near me. Was so much fun to watch them.
We need more of these here in Canada right now! So many fires, so much smoke. I never see smog where I live but now it has been smoggy for weeks and the actual fire season has not started yet! It is a very concerning situation!
That is $30 million well spent! We need more money to pay those specialized pilots too!
pray for Algeria🇩🇿💔💔
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Ofc you guys are here 😂
Sans smir
Morocco offered help with these planes but u refused!!
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It's not time for these political discussions.. the wounds are deep and both algerian and moroccan systems are responsible for dividing people.
Yeah i know bro, i said nothing political just a fact! Our system has problems too but refusing a needed help in this situation is just too much POV
Given the environmental status and the raging wildfires all over the world, this aircraft has become an absolute necessity. Even though the firefighting weight has fallen into helicopters, the production of a capable firefighting aircraft (like this one ) is still a priority.
Here in Greece, a few CL215 (nicknamed "oilsuckers") and an aging but still capable fleet of CL415 are operational.
Word is that Viking Air has already approached Greece for the fleet of CL215 to be upgraded to CL515. The offer was rather expensive however, I hope that an agreement was made.
this actually makes me really happy, I love Aviation a lot and I know the importance of taking care of the planet and keeping it protected. This aircraft is very useful and the cost imo does make it worth it. Probably requires slightly different training to operate from conventional aircraft. but it is an important vehicle/tool to contain large scale wildfires, though sometimes wildfires are good to burn off dead vegetation, keeping wildfires controlled if they get out of hand is important to the safety of animals and peoples lives too.
Was in Washington State recently and got to watch them go to work . The skill that these pilots have is just amazing. They are beautiful machines . 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
i saw some croation super scoopers picking up water in italy and dropping it in slovenia just a week ago, i did see them refuel and fly over very low every few minutes but didn't see them drop the load
Canadian know-how.
can we build more of these instead of $100m f35s
What? And losing chances to bombing a 100$ tent in mid west? Ofc no.
no, lets shoot the fire
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@@nutshell5494 why u trying to bomb the midwest wtf
@@nutshell5494 Midwest friendly fire?
My Uncle was chief designer for the Waterbomber . It was brought to market in 1969 as the CL-2-15 (Canadair Limited). A stamp was issued by Canada post. I sheets of them. My father passed in 2017 at the age of 97.
Make No Mistake, The people who pilot these Aircraft are the Best of the Best. God Bless Them
That’s the coolest machine I’ve seen in quite some time...
We need to make thousands of these we will need more and more.
One issue that presents itself with your comment.
The skills to fly this amazing machine aren't well known.
Trust me, thoughts of finding ways to fund the buying of these impressive machines came to thought while watching this video.
$30 million isn't a lot to some countries.
I would say that the maker of this plane has a long list of orders not just from governments but also from private companies.
I agree with your comment as well.
Possibly a united front from multiple governments across the world to submit funds towards buying a fleet and some, also a mutual agreement to pay for training, maintenance and the other necessary requirements of such a destroyer, could be created.
I know of at least 3 different countries facing extreme fire situations as I am typing this comment.
Production of the newest variant the DHC-515 is set to begin in 2026. With Indonesia's two search and rescue variants set to be the first delivered.
That's the perfect plane for the job. Such a great overall design.
Great plane.. Lots of memories when I was a child at Galicia and the CL215 roared somewhere during sunset with the old P&W radial engines
Another plus is that it does look pretty cool.
Water bomber demonstrations on the lake were big part of my childhood memories.
Sproat Lake by chance?
@@MrTristans80 Lac la biche, just one province over
Got buzzed by these guys a lot last summer on the loyalton. Some of the best work I've seen from a bird
My favorite aircraft after the Beaver of course. I also inspected items of this aircraft with a Leica laser. Made in Montréal and assembled in North Bay Ontario.
At the moment I am designing one to later 3d print for rc.
30 million is a steal considering fighter jets and airliners can cost hundreds of millions of dollars.
Be-200 can scoop 2639 gallons in 12 seconds and drop it in 0,8-1seconds at speed 250km/h. It costs $50 millon
Have watched this clip several times over the past few months which is rare for me to watch a clip twice.
An amazing aircraft, yes massive price tag but so needed regardless of cost.
i think that 30million is a reasonable price, compared to see what all that military stuff costs
Being now in the middle of the "fire season" here in Croatia, we can see these guys pretty much every day in the sky. Some even fly to other countries (Bosnia and Herzegovina, Turkey, a few years back Israel) and help out a lot. I have seen them a few times scoop water in canyons and marveled at the skill those pilots have. Hats off to all those badass pilots fighting fires from the sky!
Hope u guys are doing fine there with all the fires know much love from Kosovo
Actually saw one of those on Thursday in a croatian wildfire
We appreciate you guys. We had a forest fire very close to us earlier this month. Scary shit.
we have Canadairs in Croatia and we do use them a lot.. such a fascinating airplane. proud of our firefighters!
What a weird coincidence, just had 11 of these fly over my house in formation on their way back from a mission like 30 seconds ago and then youtube suggested this video.
5:36 “It only takes 2 seconds for the plane to drop its entire load”
Me: Those are rookie numbers
Takes me 1.3
Remarkable that production of this aircraft has not been restarted.
The "fire boss" is also a very effective seabird, who can carry 800 gallons. Alot smaller too, but less features.