That would be awesome. I'd be glad to pay for that over seeing another show by KISS. Last kiss show I saw was in 2020 right before the country got shut down. In Manchester NH.
@@JustinSmithPYROsame here in moline Illinois, my cousin caught his girlfriend cheating on him a few days before the concert so he gave me her ticket lol 2 rows back from the stage every time Paul or Tommy come close to me I started chanting Ace 😂 Paul got sick of hearing so he give me a disgusting look lol
They should have hired ACE to be the opening band then ACE would have been paid and he would have been there every night to do the encores they want him to do. Hasn’t Peter said he has no interest getting back on stage with anyone? He’s the oldest of the 4 and he’s done with it all? I think that comment came from something he did this year where he played or sang a few songs at something.
Like Dave said they are getting old seen a lot of clips of Gene falling a lot more in his platform boots and people have to help him up lol so ya I do believe this is it for Gene and Paul but I also believe Tommy and the drummer will continue on as KISS with 2 new members this way Gene and Paul will still collect revenue from the shows 🤷
I wouldn’t be surprised to see some unplugged shows sitting in chairs in plain old street clothes without the make up. Sipping on a little bit of cold gin between the songs.. Gene really likes that hard lemonade.
I saw a video not too long ago, it featured ace, Peter, Vinnie Vincent and Bruce kulick. The performance wasn't bad. I say these guys should get together and do a farewell kiss tour. Why would ace and Peter do a goodbye show knowing some other guys are donning their gimmicks?
Gene and Paul are only thinking about the extra money generated from the increased Pay Per View, CD, and DVD sales documenting the former members' participation in the final shows. After the way they've been treated and disrespected by Paul & Gene, I hope no former members ( Peter, Ace, Vinnie, and Bruce ) participate in any way during these last few shows. If any of them choose to participate, you can bet that after CD & DVD sales of the final shows level off Paul & Gene will go back to bashing them again with statements like "Fat, lazy, out of shape, don't remember how to play the songs, technically inept, addict, money grubbing, untrustworthy, and an overall horrible person, etc." You can bet they'll even try and come up with something bad to say about Bruce Kulick. Good luck with that, Paul & Gene.
I agree nearly everything what Ralph said. Gene and Paul are all about the money. They should have let “the fans” watch the last show for free. But I’m not that much angry with Ace. Why shouldn’t he ask for a little peace of the big cake?!? It depends on how much money he wanted, I think. Of course: he is a buisnessman too. Nobody is working in his job without payment. Anyway - great statements, Ralph!👍🤘 Rock on and greetings from Germany 🇩🇪👍🤘
Ace said about a year or less ago he wanted $250,000. Don’t remember if that was per night or for both nights. But if that’s what he asked for that was just a negotiation starting point he knew to aim high and expect a low ball. I have also heard him say several times this year last time was in the last few weeks.. he has never been contacted by Gene, Paul or anyone in the kiss camp about doing anything.
Hopefully at the last shows there will be a lot of hello kitty kiss stuff for sale. Nothing screams rock n roll like hello kitty! KISS died the second time Ace left. Non makeup Kiss were fucking great. I loved it.
They don't want to stop touring because they know that they've watered down their legacy so bad that once they're done, they'll be instantly irrelevant.
KISS on their last tour isn’t playing stadiums? They split the fans in half with the imposters and hello kitty kind of bullshit. My town they just played and tickets were left same week of show. Didn’t care what happened at it. I stayed home.
Haha!!! Fucking yes!!! Paul stanley of KISS!!! Love it!!!! Always cheers me up like you would not believe!!!! Smack-a-ma-gob!!!! Keep up the great work Ralph!!! Big shout and love from BRISTOL UK!!! Love eternal people!!!
I heard that New York City is going to be arranging a whole bunch of KISS-related events to celebrate the last two shows! Maybe Ace and Peter will be appearing at those instead…and maybe they’ll get paid better!
Frehleyizhere27, Thanks Almost Human , Hopefully you'll soon be doing some more original KIZZ with the Original Four... Take Care and Keep on Rockin'...
You should have called it a day in 2000, when Frehley left. As far as most were concerned, that was the culmination of the “Farewell”. You regrouped and returned to glory and regained your cred. It’s been nearly a quarter century since your ‘sell-by’ date, I was eight when I found you…I just turned fifty six! Good night and goodbye!👍🤘🔥🖤💀 EDIT; Ace left in ‘02, my bad!🤦♂️
Hey Ralph, Chris here…… happy thanksgiving buddy!!!!!! Gene may feel bad…. But I can tell you that Paul doesn’t!!!!!!! Since Paul runs KISS anyway…… he wants no part because he won’t risk what they have going now……. NONSENSE!!!!!!!!!! Gene cares about $$$$$$$ only… Gene & Paul have their own issues too…. But sweep that under the carpet & bring up the past about Ace & Peter!!!!!! Gene & Paul……. Smoke & mirrors to suit them!!!!!!
Hey, Gene - PAY THEM! Ace said he would do it, he just needs to be paid. And after the way Gene & Paul f*cked 'em over in the 90s & early 2000s, who can blame him? Where the hell does Gene get off saying he's "angry and sad" anyway? Get a crowbar into that wallet and PAY THEM. 🤷♂ I couldn't agree with you more, dude. KISS is Ace, Peter, Paul & Gene - FULL STOP. This new thing is nothing more than a glorified tribute band.
No matter what u think of Gene&Paul This tour is really a legacy_Celebration Of course he's hurt Ace&Peter aint therr They Went To Hell and Back They were once Brothers No matter what
Kiss was set to play in my city Ottawa Canada but canceled at thd last minute cause paul got the flu glad I didn t go I only like old kiss some people traveled far to see this show and were disappointed. And there not gonna play another show. Here.
I Love KISS and i'm so happy i got to experience all forms of the band. Very soon this magic will be long gone. Then what are you going to complain about??
I know Gene has trash talked Ace & Peter in the past. I feel like as he is older now he truly would like to see them along side him but Paul tells Gene when to sit and piss. This whole thing has become a mockery of what was once a groundbreaking band in the rock ‘n’ roll industry.
Gene and Paul as time goes on are gonna feel it. They should have bended the knee and put away the ego. They will look back with regret when it hits them that Kiss is over and that it ended as a coverband on the last show. I hope it burns inside them badly,Ace and Peter dont need Kiss anymore,and the regret will live in Gene and Paul because time and again they were the ones who were the control freaks,who pushed others to leave,and it will hit them that once its all over,and theyre sitting at home a few years from now, and they know its over,that they didn't do what the original four members had set out to do. Instead of ruling the world one last time one the last show,they compromised,they sold out yet again. When they could have just let it go. Could have said come on and play with us one last time. Could have closed the book on a great career and legacy. But instead of dignity its forever gonna be tarnished because of egos,Gene and Paul couldn't box them for one night,the last night of Kiss. It may take 1 year 2 years,5 years, whatever, but that gut punch will come, that they ended their legacy on a selfish, greed filled night. Gene and Paul could have been brothers and invited the other half of that family on stage for one last night, but instead they were bankers.
Why would they play together again if they don't get along? I wouldn't wanna see a Frankenstein band. Kiss right now is the new line up, those who are happy with that can go and have a good time, and those who think it's a travestite well stay home and watch old videos.
They should be doing some of the songs from the soundcheck setlist in the regular setlist. Hotter Than Hell, Got To Choose, Plaster Caster, Shock Me , Christine Sixteen.. or atleast a few medleys of some Klassic tracks.. drop Say Yea, shorten the guitar solo/drum solo.. or get rid of them all together.. when playing Lick it up drop the Won’t get fooled again part. You get the idea. There is a lot of time wasting. Or play for 2 1/2 hours like Stanley said they do when he was laying on his deathbed a few days ago. 2 1/2 hour celebration 😂 more like an hour and 55 minutes and that time includes a lot of time wasting BS throughout.. it even includes the intro of Led Zeppelin Rock and Roll, and the fake part of them walking to the stage video. It’s for the fans… than pay Frehley $250,000 a night.
Honestly they should have ended after their reunion tour, which for me they didn't need to do, I've been there since the beginning, KISS will never be duplicated or matched when they were at the height of their powers I'd say until 1978 love gun, there was a lot of really good music in the 80s I have nothing against those eras or lineups, but as a 54-year-old, KISS was downright scary dangerous and amazing until the wheels came off actually probably around the solos, I haven't been a fan of any of the guys for several years, they all act like old women and whatever Legacy they did have it's been completely destroyed ,they are such a joke now I will live on the memories of the true kiss when It was.... Ace, Gene, Paul and Peter....AND THAT'S THE END OF THE ROAD BOYS! IMO!
Ralph we have to put Eric Carr up there too wear make era for 3 yrs as the Fox i love that line up too Eric Carr Gene Simmons Paul Stanley and Ace frehly and Peter Criss my two favorite line ups in make up
I bet you after Gene and Paul retire that Tommy Thayer and Eric Singer will get 2 new members and will continue on as KISS doing concerts just for Paul and Gene will continue collecting paychecks haha
The days of touring in makeup are over. I think they’ll record new music for that biopic- if it ever comes out. I’m sure Bruce will be at the last shows, so why not a Revenge era song, and Thayer can go take a piss break. Peter is pretty much retired so he probably will go for the VIP treatment and free food…and then they’ll go “do you feel like singing Beth? I doubt Ace is going, but when he’s sitting at home bored and done listening to a conspiracy theory podcast, could see him telling Doc to Uber him into the city from New Jersey to go to the show. Doc should invite Vinnie Vincent for the hell of it. They could have done an out of makeup “one night only” show with all the members at the Beacon for 500 a ticket and sell it out in minutes.
Too many shots fired at one another, not gonna happen. Ace even said he can solo circles around Tommy, and the solo album commentary. The only thing I could see to come out of a Kiss Corporation reunion would be a backstage brawl. Even if it meant Paul Thhstanley breaking a nail...
I personally never acknowledged Sonic Bomb and MouseSter as KISS LPs....last KISS LP was psycho and barely all 4 ...people who take there kids do it then when there older you can let them know like SANTA that's not the real KISS YOU SAW!!!!
Why they tried to make Eric and Tommy Peter and Ace, I'll never understand. They should have given Tommy a big Silver Lightning Bolt, and Eric, I don't know, how about a black and white version of DLR's Eat' em and Smile makeup or some jungle Voodoo action.
Exactly. Yeah, ok Gene. ha Paul and Gene are worth in excess of 200 million each and they can't give Peter and Ace $250,000 or $500,000 a piece to play the final show? As I said before, they will make their money back on the PPV and the sales down the road from the final concert. This being said, If I recall, Ace on Eddie (Loves to hear himself yack) Trunk show threw out some ridiculous number of 2 million bucks for him to play the last show. Kiss has been dead to me since the end of 1979.
Being all about “the fans” is often a euphemism for being lame and unimaginative. I wish the 3 Sides guys would have you up for an honest debate but that Michael guy seems too sensitive to take any genuine counter arguments about current KISS. To him, it’s all “haters lost; we won”.
What a strange world, eh? One show on RUclips, well, two to prove it's a recording, then why would anyone spend money on them? Intelligent answers only please... No legacy bs with two members missing.
@@RobertJones-sd3ly me personally can’t afford to go to the EORT but I’m thinking if this is what Paul sounds like with tapes? Imagine how bad it would be without. So if I’m paying to go see “basically a show” then I would rather here and watch tapes/lip syncing. Last time I saw them was 2004 and that was the last time I think Paul still sounded great
In my opinion "Sonic Boom" and "Monster" both sucked ass! Even "Psycho Circus" was more miss than hit, and Ace's guitar solo's sounded 10 fold better than the solo's that Tommy performed on "Psycho Circus" But Peter Criss's drums on "Into The Void" were terrible. That's pretty bad too, since that was a studio recording. Kiss shit all over Bruce Kulick, and he was far better than Tommy Square. But I won't go so far as to say that Peter is better than Eric Singer. That guy is amazing. I seen him years ago in the 90's with Alice Cooper, and I seen him with Kiss in 2005. I still don't like him in Peter's makeup, that's sacrilege in my opinion, but that's the gig that he was offered and he's made money hand over fist for doing that. So I don't blame him. Gene & Paul have no respect for the original members, and neither of them could tell the truth about anything and we all know this to be true. Thanks for the News. Peace.. Joe
The only one that is over it all is peter.he seems content and happy.the others have ego and money grabbing issiues. Sadly ace is probably has blew through his money and has to tour.
Genes attitude is that both Ace and Peter could be there to close out the show in their make up playing Rock n Roll all Night but they will have to do it for no money. If both of them are asking for a big payday they are not going to give it to them. Most people just don't give their money away even if they have a lot of it. Also they both caused a lot of bad blood between them so its not like Gene and Paul want to do them any favors.
KISS will never end. I hate to break it to you. After the "farewell" shows there will be more announcements for more BS. Gene and Paul live to make money. They will milk the name and their fans until they are dead and gone.
There’s going to be 50th anniversary events for the next few years. After that? I think they’re going to sell everything off and get massive paydays. They have enough money not to sell it off but when Dee Snider said the taxes are a big reason why he did it, and knowing taxes were why Gene wanted to move to Vegas? I think the sale is inevitable. Paul spent millions on renovating his house so he is probably not going anywhere. I can see him being the next Bob Ross and selling Paul Stanley of KISS art supplies at the local Hobby Lobby.
havent watched and probably wont but if gene is genuinely upset that ace and peter arent part of this final tour its because of lost revenue, not him genuinely missing them or wanting them to be a part of it for sentimental reasons. if he hadnt shit on them they probably would join but gene is the type to shit on a person then wonder why they dont want anything to do with him. there would be a lot more fan interest if ace and peter where a part of this but they're not and gene is looking at the loss of a lot of potential revenue.
They're all as bad as each other. All of them are money hungry. Especially disappointed with Ace. I was hoping he would rise above all the bickering over money and put the fans first. And yes, a free final concert in Central Park would have been a fitting way to go out but Kiss were only ever about money.
Brother i dig your style everything u said it all i agree 10000% u nailed it only one PC only one AF f..k. The imposters with all the money the "wigboy"eisen and genie the bloated demon has mf s wont pay the og greats to come out on stage and theyre charging on pay per view f..k those money hungry leaches your dawm straight right the only kiss that matters is the kiss from the 70s period
Did Gene make that statement or Nikki Sixx? That was about as disingenuous as he and Paul's invitation to Ace and Peter to join them on the final show.
Was going to make a comment on this stupid video but eh kiss don't matter anymore cause all the in fighting of this band and back biting gene & paul have done thatis there legacy
None of them would be anything without all of the other. It was the amazing concoction of the original 4 that made the band. Without Ace and Peter they would have never made it. Why can’t we all just get along!!! Such frigging premadonnas. Love the band but holy shot, at ages 70 they ought to be able to get their shit together and tame those enormous egos.
In a couple of weeks Cold Gin Eeeerrr….. I mean KISS will retire and it’ll be all over. Side note I saw Cold Gin in ‘94 and there was no tracks being played ! Just saying….
Glad this clownshow is ending,,,,,lick it up Was brilliant,.....but as soon as i saw those animal prints in 84, i knew it was all over.... should have put out lick it up,...then quit
Ace and Peter should have booked their own farewell shows in the same towns, with Gene and Paul 80’s era lookalikes. Named it KITH.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA omg that would be so awesome
That would be awesome. I'd be glad to pay for that over seeing another show by KISS. Last kiss show I saw was in 2020 right before the country got shut down. In Manchester NH.
@@JustinSmithPYROsame here in moline Illinois, my cousin caught his girlfriend cheating on him a few days before the concert so he gave me her ticket lol 2 rows back from the stage every time Paul or Tommy come close to me I started chanting Ace 😂 Paul got sick of hearing so he give me a disgusting look lol
They should have hired ACE to be the opening band then ACE would have been paid and he would have been there every night to do the encores they want him to do.
Hasn’t Peter said he has no interest getting back on stage with anyone? He’s the oldest of the 4 and he’s done with it all? I think that comment came from something he did this year where he played or sang a few songs at something.
@@blizzdog3881 hahaha
Kiss was pretty good when they did their solo albums. Ace's solo album was incredible. Were still waiting for Tommy and Eric to do theirs.
Don't smile because the End of the Road Tour is ending, Cry because it happened.
I can’t wait to see Larger than Life Part 3, it’s the thing I’m excited about for Kiss ending soon
I think if it was up to gene
Ace and Peter would probably be there
Paul seems to be the one that really doesn’t want a reunion with them
Bruce Kulick isn’t even going to be there and they are probably on better term with Bruce.
@@toby7291 yes but most fans want ace and Peter
Why would Ace and Peter join a tribute band?
Very valid point!!!
It's not a tribute band when the two founding members are still in it
@@rickgeorge4150 It is when they have two impersonators in the band.
If you ask that, you don't get it
It's a tribute band when there are no original members left.
If Simmons thought about the fans they would do at least one gig and split it 4 ways with Ace and Peter.
How anyone can fall for the last tour bit is beyond me.
i would agree with you except they're so old now that they HAVE to quit the road. they'll probably still do some one-off shows, tv, stuff like that.
Like Dave said they are getting old seen a lot of clips of Gene falling a lot more in his platform boots and people have to help him up lol so ya I do believe this is it for Gene and Paul but I also believe Tommy and the drummer will continue on as KISS with 2 new members this way Gene and Paul will still collect revenue from the shows 🤷
@@blizzdog3881 Dear God, probably.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see some unplugged shows sitting in chairs in plain old street clothes without the make up. Sipping on a little bit of cold gin between the songs.. Gene really likes that hard lemonade.
@@toby7291 Dey old.
The only thing that could make the ending of kiss kinda happy is if the og 4 play rock and roll all night for the last time together. Oh well.
2 the kiss shows I saw, the reunion and farewell? Tours, were those shows. Also saw the revenge tour.
I always wanted that kiss transistor radio tho. 😄
Had it as a kid. Don’t know how I lost it.
Had to bring up “addiction” again
I saw a video not too long ago, it featured ace, Peter, Vinnie Vincent and Bruce kulick. The performance wasn't bad. I say these guys should get together and do a farewell kiss tour.
Why would ace and Peter do a goodbye show knowing some other guys are donning their gimmicks?
My ass!! If Gene is that "sad and angry" about this, he should do something about it.
Yes, he should pay Ace and Peter what they want and tell the impersonators to beat it.
Gene and Paul are only thinking about the extra money generated from the increased Pay Per View, CD, and DVD sales documenting the former members' participation in the final shows.
After the way they've been treated and disrespected by Paul & Gene, I hope no former members ( Peter, Ace, Vinnie, and Bruce ) participate in any way during these last few shows.
If any of them choose to participate, you can bet that after CD & DVD sales of the final shows level off Paul & Gene will go back to bashing them again with statements like "Fat, lazy, out of shape, don't remember how to play the songs, technically inept, addict, money grubbing, untrustworthy, and an overall horrible person, etc."
You can bet they'll even try and come up with something bad to say about Bruce Kulick. Good luck with that, Paul & Gene.
I agree nearly everything what Ralph said. Gene and Paul are all about the money. They should have let “the fans” watch the last show for free.
But I’m not that much angry with Ace. Why shouldn’t he ask for a little peace of the big cake?!? It depends on how much money he wanted, I think. Of course: he is a buisnessman too. Nobody is working in his job without payment.
Anyway - great statements, Ralph!👍🤘
Rock on and greetings from Germany 🇩🇪👍🤘
Ace said about a year or less ago he wanted $250,000. Don’t remember if that was per night or for both nights. But if that’s what he asked for that was just a negotiation starting point he knew to aim high and expect a low ball. I have also heard him say several times this year last time was in the last few weeks.. he has never been contacted by Gene, Paul or anyone in the kiss camp about doing anything.
Im with you, I cant wait till its all over.
Hopefully at the last shows there will be a lot of hello kitty kiss stuff for sale. Nothing screams rock n roll like hello kitty! KISS died the second time Ace left. Non makeup Kiss were fucking great. I loved it.
Non makeup KISS. Domino is a killer track. One of my favorites. Covered it in my bar band in the early 2000s people ate it up!
Non makeup KISS. Domino is a killer track. One of my favorites. Covered it in my bar band in the early 2000s people ate it up!
They don't want to stop touring because they know that they've watered down their legacy so bad that once they're done, they'll be instantly irrelevant.
KISS on their last tour isn’t playing stadiums? They split the fans in half with the imposters and hello kitty kind of bullshit. My town they just played and tickets were left same week of show. Didn’t care what happened at it. I stayed home.
that doesnt even make sense lol
I agree Kiss is Ace, Peter, Gene and Paul just like Van Halen is Eddie, Alex, Mike and David
Best part of this was that Kiss shirt with King Diamond.
All hail the KING!
Yeah where can I get one 😂
Haha!!! Fucking yes!!! Paul stanley of KISS!!! Love it!!!! Always cheers me up like you would not believe!!!! Smack-a-ma-gob!!!! Keep up the great work Ralph!!! Big shout and love from BRISTOL UK!!! Love eternal people!!!
FUCK YEAH. THANKS!
I heard that New York City is going to be arranging a whole bunch of KISS-related events to celebrate the last two shows! Maybe Ace and Peter will be appearing at those instead…and maybe they’ll get paid better!
Paul literally called Ace and Peter piss so why would they show up?
That huge fancy stage they payed for musta been way more than what Ace was asking for.
Paula and Gene can't control Pete and Ace like their 2 employees, and they come at a higher price.
don't forget , they love the fans so much , they are doing a pay per view event !
Frehleyizhere27, Thanks Almost Human , Hopefully you'll soon be doing some more original KIZZ with the Original Four... Take Care and Keep on Rockin'...
You should have called it a day in 2000, when Frehley left.
As far as most were concerned, that was the culmination of the “Farewell”.
You regrouped and returned to glory and regained your cred.
It’s been nearly a quarter century since your ‘sell-by’ date, I was eight when I found you…I just turned fifty six!
Good night and goodbye!👍🤘🔥🖤💀
EDIT; Ace left in ‘02, my bad!🤦♂️
They could have called up a tribute bands Paul Stanley tonight in Toronto........You know the Show Must Go On......LOL !
No human has ever been more full of sh*t. Let's all shed some crocodile tears for Gene. He's so sad. And it's Ace and Peter's fault. 😂
I don't think Chaim ever got over the Tom Snyder interview.
Hey Ralph, Chris here…… happy thanksgiving buddy!!!!!! Gene may feel bad…. But I can tell you that Paul doesn’t!!!!!!! Since Paul runs KISS anyway…… he wants no part because he won’t risk what they have going now……. NONSENSE!!!!!!!!!! Gene cares about $$$$$$$ only… Gene & Paul have their own issues too…. But sweep that under the carpet & bring up the past about Ace & Peter!!!!!! Gene & Paul……. Smoke & mirrors to suit them!!!!!!
Hey, Gene - PAY THEM!
Ace said he would do it, he just needs to be paid. And after the way Gene & Paul f*cked 'em over in the 90s & early 2000s, who can blame him? Where the hell does Gene get off saying he's "angry and sad" anyway? Get a crowbar into that wallet and PAY THEM. 🤷♂
I couldn't agree with you more, dude. KISS is Ace, Peter, Paul & Gene - FULL STOP. This new thing is nothing more than a glorified tribute band.
Write it down, there will be a farewell tour with Kulick and Singer. Off comes the makeup
No matter what u think of Gene&Paul
This tour is really a legacy_Celebration
Of course he's hurt
Ace&Peter aint therr
They Went To Hell and Back
They were once Brothers
No matter what
Kiss was set to play in my city Ottawa Canada but canceled at thd last minute cause paul got the flu glad I didn t go I only like old kiss some people traveled far to see this show and were disappointed. And there not gonna play another show. Here.
Great pictures choice. I couldn't stop laughing at the first one.
I Love KISS and i'm so happy i got to experience all forms of the band. Very soon this magic will be long gone. Then what are you going to complain about??
They talk crazy shit many times they were not on tour. They will be complaining and Ill be reporting. Nothing will change.
I know Gene has trash talked Ace & Peter in the past. I feel like as he is older now he truly would like to see them along side him but Paul tells Gene when to sit and piss.
This whole thing has become a mockery of what was once a groundbreaking band in the rock ‘n’ roll industry.
Gene and Paul as time goes on are gonna feel it. They should have bended the knee and put away the ego. They will look back with regret when it hits them that Kiss is over and that it ended as a coverband on the last show. I hope it burns inside them badly,Ace and Peter dont need Kiss anymore,and the regret will live in Gene and Paul because time and again they were the ones who were the control freaks,who pushed others to leave,and it will hit them that once its all over,and theyre sitting at home a few years from now, and they know its over,that they didn't do what the original four members had set out to do. Instead of ruling the world one last time one the last show,they compromised,they sold out yet again. When they could have just let it go. Could have said come on and play with us one last time. Could have closed the book on a great career and legacy. But instead of dignity its forever gonna be tarnished because of egos,Gene and Paul couldn't box them for one night,the last night of Kiss.
It may take 1 year 2 years,5 years, whatever, but that gut punch will come, that they ended their legacy on a selfish, greed filled night. Gene and Paul could have been brothers and invited the other half of that family on stage for one last night, but instead they were bankers.
Bankers and grudgeholders.
You have a warped point of view. The other two are the ones who control the band,and well....thats not really a band. Sorry. @@tnyc3265
Why would they play together again if they don't get along? I wouldn't wanna see a Frankenstein band. Kiss right now is the new line up, those who are happy with that can go and have a good time, and those who think it's a travestite well stay home and watch old videos.
They should be doing some of the songs from the soundcheck setlist in the regular setlist. Hotter Than Hell, Got To Choose, Plaster Caster, Shock Me , Christine Sixteen.. or atleast a few medleys of some Klassic tracks.. drop Say Yea, shorten the guitar solo/drum solo.. or get rid of them all together.. when playing Lick it up drop the Won’t get fooled again part. You get the idea. There is a lot of time wasting. Or play for 2 1/2 hours like Stanley said they do when he was laying on his deathbed a few days ago. 2 1/2 hour celebration 😂 more like an hour and 55 minutes and that time includes a lot of time wasting BS throughout.. it even includes the intro of Led Zeppelin Rock and Roll, and the fake part of them walking to the stage video. It’s for the fans… than pay Frehley $250,000 a night.
I saw kiss 3 times. Excellent shows😊
Honestly they should have ended after their reunion tour, which for me they didn't need to do, I've been there since the beginning, KISS will never be duplicated or matched when they were at the height of their powers I'd say until 1978 love gun, there was a lot of really good music in the 80s I have nothing against those eras or lineups, but as a 54-year-old, KISS was downright scary dangerous and amazing until the wheels came off actually probably around the solos, I haven't been a fan of any of the guys for several years, they all act like old women and whatever Legacy they did have it's been completely destroyed ,they are such a joke now I will live on the memories of the true kiss when It was.... Ace, Gene, Paul and Peter....AND THAT'S THE END OF THE ROAD BOYS! IMO!
Ralph we have to put Eric Carr up there too wear make era for 3 yrs as the Fox i love that line up too Eric Carr Gene Simmons Paul Stanley and Ace frehly and Peter Criss my two favorite line ups in make up
You reap what you sow, Gene.
I bet you after Gene and Paul retire that Tommy Thayer and Eric Singer will get 2 new members and will continue on as KISS doing concerts just for Paul and Gene will continue collecting paychecks haha
Those paychecks will be tiny.
@@almosthuman56 They'll be playing shows at Chuck E. Cheese.
Besides maiden. What classic bands has most prime members
Kiss has 2
More than most
The days of touring in makeup are over. I think they’ll record new music for that biopic- if it ever comes out. I’m sure Bruce will be at the last shows, so why not a Revenge era song, and Thayer can go take a piss break. Peter is pretty much retired so he probably will go for the VIP treatment and free food…and then they’ll go “do you feel like singing Beth? I doubt Ace is going, but when he’s sitting at home bored and done listening to a conspiracy theory podcast, could see him telling Doc to Uber him into the city from New Jersey to go to the show. Doc should invite Vinnie Vincent for the hell of it. They could have done an out of makeup “one night only” show with all the members at the Beacon for 500 a ticket and sell it out in minutes.
Too many shots fired at one another, not gonna happen. Ace even said he can solo circles around Tommy, and the solo album commentary.
The only thing I could see to come out of a Kiss Corporation reunion would be a backstage brawl. Even if it meant Paul Thhstanley breaking a nail...
Appreciate you RV ❤
Not once have they acknowledged Eric Carr on this tour PATHETIC
I personally never acknowledged Sonic Bomb and MouseSter as KISS LPs....last KISS LP was psycho and barely all 4 ...people who take there kids do it then when there older you can let them know like SANTA that's not the real KISS YOU SAW!!!!
Gene is sad and angry that half the show is fake and he knows Ace and Peter would only give Paul 3 spots in a show to be fake!!
I'm sure if they called up Vinnie Vincent he would join 😆 🤣
Why they tried to make Eric and Tommy Peter and Ace, I'll never understand. They should have given Tommy a big Silver Lightning Bolt, and Eric, I don't know, how about a black and white version of DLR's Eat' em and Smile makeup or some jungle Voodoo action.
They just cancelled their Canada tour
Exactly. Yeah, ok Gene. ha Paul and Gene are worth in excess of 200 million each and they can't give Peter and Ace $250,000 or $500,000 a piece to play the final show? As I said before, they will make their money back on the PPV and the sales down the road from the final concert.
This being said, If I recall, Ace on Eddie (Loves to hear himself yack) Trunk show threw out some ridiculous number of 2 million bucks for him to play the last show. Kiss has been dead to me since the end of 1979.
Being all about “the fans” is often a euphemism for being lame and unimaginative. I wish the 3 Sides guys would have you up for an honest debate but that Michael guy seems too sensitive to take any genuine counter arguments about current KISS. To him, it’s all “haters lost; we won”.
The Last Kiss tour was in 2000... Motley Cruz broke their word, but Ace and Peter didn't. Who wants to see them miming to tapes anyway.
Millions have
What a strange world, eh? One show on RUclips, well, two to prove it's a recording, then why would anyone spend money on them? Intelligent answers only please... No legacy bs with two members missing.
@@RobertJones-sd3ly me personally can’t afford to go to the EORT but I’m thinking if this is what Paul sounds like with tapes? Imagine how bad it would be without. So if I’m paying to go see “basically a show” then I would rather here and watch tapes/lip syncing. Last time I saw them was 2004 and that was the last time I think Paul still sounded great
In my opinion "Sonic Boom" and "Monster" both sucked ass!
Even "Psycho Circus" was more miss than hit, and Ace's guitar solo's sounded 10 fold better than the solo's that Tommy performed on "Psycho Circus" But Peter Criss's drums on "Into The Void" were terrible. That's pretty bad too, since that was a studio recording.
Kiss shit all over Bruce Kulick, and he was far better than Tommy Square. But I won't go so far as to say that Peter is better than Eric Singer. That guy is amazing. I seen him years ago in the 90's with Alice Cooper, and I seen him with Kiss in 2005. I still don't like him in Peter's makeup, that's sacrilege in my opinion, but that's the gig that he was offered and he's made money hand over fist for doing that. So I don't blame him. Gene & Paul have no respect for the original members, and neither of them could tell the truth about anything and we all know this to be true. Thanks for the News. Peace.. Joe
6:29 Photo of Paul Stanley drunk, passed out face down on a bed/sofa behind Gene Simmons during Hotter Than Hell Photo shoot.
The only one that is over it all is peter.he seems content and happy.the others have ego and money grabbing issiues. Sadly ace is probably has blew through his money and has to tour.
Genes attitude is that both Ace and Peter could be there to close out the show in their make up playing Rock n Roll all Night but they will have to do it for no money. If both of them are asking for a big payday they are not going to give it to them. Most people just don't give their money away even if they have a lot of it. Also they both caused a lot of bad blood between them so its not like Gene and Paul want to do them any favors.
KISS will never end. I hate to break it to you. After the "farewell" shows there will be more announcements for more BS. Gene and Paul live to make money. They will milk the name and their fans until they are dead and gone.
There’s going to be 50th anniversary events for the next few years. After that? I think they’re going to sell everything off and get massive paydays. They have enough money not to sell it off but when Dee Snider said the taxes are a big reason why he did it, and knowing taxes were why Gene wanted to move to Vegas? I think the sale is inevitable. Paul spent millions on renovating his house so he is probably not going anywhere. I can see him being the next Bob Ross and selling Paul Stanley of KISS art supplies at the local Hobby Lobby.
Did you read about the KISS NYC takeover?
2:02 He looks like my Aunt Agnes.
The shows are sold out, they can play whatever songs they want.
They could play all kinds of deep tracks.
But they won't
Do you know if its msg or is it Gene and Paul asking for those thousand dollar tickets? Or 300 dollar so called cheap seats lol?
Hhhhhhha nice pic of gene you chose Ralph 😂
havent watched and probably wont but if gene is genuinely upset that ace and peter arent part of this final tour its because of lost revenue, not him genuinely missing them or wanting them to be a part of it for sentimental reasons. if he hadnt shit on them they probably would join but gene is the type to shit on a person then wonder why they dont want anything to do with him. there would be a lot more fan interest if ace and peter where a part of this but they're not and gene is looking at the loss of a lot of potential revenue.
It be nice is they did do one show, bit it will never happen. Thanks Ralph for the awesome channel.
They stayed way too long already.
They have become a meme,
sadly comical. A shame.
Loved them when I was a kid.
They're all as bad as each other. All of them are money hungry. Especially disappointed with Ace. I was hoping he would rise above all the bickering over money and put the fans first. And yes, a free final concert in Central Park would have been a fitting way to go out but Kiss were only ever about money.
Gene Simmons is such a hypocrite. After bad mouthing both Ace and Peter he expects them to join the final tour. Is he that money hungry
Nobody’s there! Gigs cancelled
Brother i dig your style everything u said it all i agree 10000% u nailed it only one PC only one AF f..k. The imposters with all the money the "wigboy"eisen and genie the bloated demon has mf s wont pay the og greats to come out on stage and theyre charging on pay per view f..k those money hungry leaches your dawm straight right the only kiss that matters is the kiss from the 70s period
You are correct! And Thank You!
Did Gene make that statement or Nikki Sixx? That was about as disingenuous as he and Paul's invitation to Ace and Peter to join them on the final show.
Was going to make a comment on this stupid video but eh kiss don't matter anymore cause all the in fighting of this band and back biting gene & paul have done thatis there legacy
So many critics. Don't like them? Don't watch or listen.
Don't like the critics? Don't watch or listen.
@@almosthuman56 I don't. Didn't know what it was until I watched it. I've never heard of you.
None of them would be anything without all of the other. It was the amazing concoction of the original 4 that made the band. Without Ace and Peter they would have never made it. Why can’t we all just get along!!! Such frigging premadonnas. Love the band but holy shot, at ages 70 they ought to be able to get their shit together and tame those enormous egos.
Ii prefer Eric Carr and Eric singer...
In a couple of weeks Cold Gin Eeeerrr….. I mean KISS will retire and it’ll be all over. Side note I saw Cold Gin in ‘94 and there was no tracks being played ! Just saying….
More than one person actually likes this band? That's hard to believe.
He's just angry cause it's not a bigger payday. Get on with retirement and enjoy your millions.
I'd rather listen to Klassik 78 over Kiss in my opinion. So tired of this drama with 70 year old rockers
So I take it that your not spending $40 on PPV.🤑
Kiss 🤮🤮🤮
Please don't loose any sleep over Pauuul Staaanley
Glad this clownshow is ending,,,,,lick it up Was brilliant,.....but as soon as i saw those animal prints in 84, i knew it was all over.... should have put out lick it up,...then quit
Gêne & paul just wanna USE ace, & to a l'essentiel xtent..peter