Saiyan saga Vegeta when he said he is the strongest being in the universe while knowing the existence of Beerus,Frieza,King Cold,The Ginyu Force,Zarbon and Dodoria.
Buuuuuut, he needs to be fast enough to stop time to beat those that are faster than him. So, he's only faster once time is stopped, not when it's not and THAT matters. 😏👉🏻👉🏻
"ok mate we need to talk about this whole fastest in the universe thing. First off the captain got a higher power level than you" "Yeah so?" "Well correct me if I'm worth but a higher power level means hes faster yeah" "Welll ok... Maybe" "And lord friezas got a higher power level than all of us" "Ok That's just unfair" "And if u think about it guldo can stop time so that technically makes him faster than" "NOOO NOOO OK I'M NOT SLOWER THAN FUCKI** GULDO"
Literally never thought about this but the fact that there was a base saiyan most likely hundreds of times stronger than frieza and cell just chilling on vampa during all of dbz is kinda crazy to think about
As far as I care, that statement might just be "fastest for their given power level," where there are those who are faster but are brute-forcing it by just having more raw power. Sure, Frieza can handedly out pace anyone in his army, but pump Burta to those levels, and his walking speed might look like teleportation.
Burter has the highest base speed, but everyone else is a higher level than him. :P Also, I would say that interpretation could apply for most of the characters mentioned like Frieza and Captain Ginyu (and I do prefer this explanation), but I don't think it would apply for a few characters; the gods and anyone sealed away, mainly. But of course, that can be easily explained as "there's no way that Burter would even know about these characters, so of course he wouldn't account for them."
Yeah I believe this is the most likely logic that was intended. Burter with PL of 10 would be faster than Frieza with PL of 10 (Could still be a stretch). This logic may also apply to Dyspo who will be faster than all the other members if their power levels are equal.
I think the main problem was: higher power level = all stats are equally raised, which killed the idea of fighting specialties until perfect cell made fun of super trunks. Super trunks sacrificed speed for power, but if someone held cell down, he could have blown him away.
@@redjirachi1 Dyspo was nowhere near faster than jiren. Jiren dodged Goku ultra instinct while Dyspo didn't even see Goku attacking Jiren. Dbs still has the same issue.
I really think the only way to explain this (outside of Toriyama simply changing his mind later) is that Burter had a VERY small scope of the universe and was severely overconfident in his speed. He THOUGHT he was the fastest in the universe.
Yeah I mean the Ginyu Force aren’t exactly the most humble guys around, Burter probably outpaced the other guys in the Frieza Force before being recruited by Ginyu and thought he was hot shit
@@pigglesgoomshby7249 Well, I mean. The Ginyu force are literally the most powerful warriors in the universe. Keep in mind that the show focuses on unnatural freaks. Freeza's empire spanned most of the universe, they knew what people in the universe are capable of. Reminder that PuiPui - one of the strongest people in the universe was visibly slower in 10 times gravity. Ginyu force is the peak of strength. Freeza was an absolute freak. Androids and Cell literally didn't exist. Dabura was the king of the demon world, Buu is Buu, Beerus is Beerus and Broly is Broly. There's basically no normal mortals stronger than the Ginyu force.
@@RancorSnp He was a Freeza soldier. To him, Freeza's empire WAS the whole universe. And seeing as Gynyu himself hyped Burter up, it stands to reason that he himself had some excuse for the difference, so he was only beneath Freeza and Cold, who were essentially mystical creatures to any citizen of the empire.
Burter is an example of those people who live inside of a bubble, theyre the best of the best but theyre at the lowest level once they enter an uncharted environment
This character is the best example that Toriyama had a habit of calling his opponents "the best of the best" at something without thinking about what would happen next. Damn he knew there was someone like Freeza and he still gave him the nickname of the fastest in the universe
@@genda314 I like to think Burter was just jealous that every other member of the Ginyu Force had a shtick, so Ginyu was like, "Well, you beat Jeice and the others in that race once... How about we call you the 'fastest in the universe'?"
Would Cell be counted? Not the embryo Cell in Gero's lab, but the buried Future Cell cicada underground - while he's technically a cicada while Burter was alive and made the statement, he became one after "regressing" from his first form after killing future Trunks.
Well for Burter's claim you have to account for characters that the Ginyu Force would be aware of ("fastest in the universe" would necessarily need to mean "fastest in the known universe"), would register as people who could be counted (if they were aware of someone like Buu they would know that Buu is sealed and so that disqualifies him from a ranking), and that they can be provably faster than Burter on all fronts. Plus there are some figures that just outright go without saying - like in certain mythologies with pantheons of gods it's generally understood that unless someone is making a claim of being "greater than the gods" that even if they say "I am the greatest at [x]" then it is implied to not include gods in that ranking. Not counting Freeza and King Cold would likely be classified as part of that unspoken "except gods and angels" category. Captain Ginyu has a higher power level but there are two explanations 1. As a boss, Ginyu knows it's good for Burter's morale so he doesn't challenge him on it and in group battles would deliberately limit his speed unless absolutely necessary (given the Ginyu Force's reputation, it most likely was not necessary until Goku appeared), 2. Burter's speed is all-around higher than Ginyu's - in terms of top speed, acceleration, distance travel, etc. Ginyu might beat him in some aspects but Burter could still be faster as a whole. Guldo has time stop but he can't use it for prolonged periods so you could easily argue that in any legitimate contest of speed, he'd still lose to Burter. Remember that even with his time stop, Guldo was being outsped by Gohan and Krillin. But at its core it really just outlines the problem with power levels and the retcons to the timeline that happened later down the line, when a character is defined as being "the fast guy" then every enemy needs to be stronger and faster than the last.
Pretty sure any statement about "strongest/fastest in the universe" before Beerus woke up had an implicit "aside for the mythical God of Destruction I'm not even sure actually exists", with Frieza's men adding an implicit "besides lord Frieza and King Cold. Is King Cold even still alive?".
9:50 I might be conflating abridged with canon, but saying piccolo trained "with" king kai seems a bit of a stretch, more like he trained *near* king kai
I think it’s that his actual _travel_ speeds are disproportionately impressive compared power level, the same way Frieza himself is with his durability and resilience… BUT that also he lets it get to his head, and so he started to think his mid-combat speeds are similarly strong when… They’re about par for his power level.
Even excluding Super, Burter is not really that fast compared to a lot of characters. I can only assume that the Ginyu's (and Frieza himself) hadn't really gotten around that much and didn't know much about the universe. If you think about it, Frieza only learned about the "magic balls of Namek" because of Vegeta, so Namek itself wasn't even on his radar until this time, and Neil was likely faster than Burter. It was either a statement from ignorance, or a bluff.
He is,in my opinion,the buggest fraud in dragon ball.Other frauds like Mr.Satan atleast know they're a fraud,some other frauds actually do little stuff (Frost) but Burter does nothing,nothing.
What about dyspo who basically claim the same thing as burter even though Jiren is faster than him? He should be tied with burter in terms of being a speed fraud (though at least dyspo actually landed good hits, something burter didn't do)
@@HotFootBunny Dyspo at least can actually blitz people far stronger than himself like Hit initially, Gohan and Golden Frieza. The only reason Gohan and Frieza won is because they trapped him making him unable to use his speed to the fullest extent
@@warmblanket3394 Bring someone back from the dead for the tenth time, as a quick example. Grant them the power of Beerus for another obviously unable to achieve goal. Making all lies true is tautologically impossible.
@@hweidigivthe last one just isn't fair, you're intentionally making a paradox. that'd be like wishing for infinite power, and wishing for a stone that you can't lift. any other silly limitations, though, like not being able to give you the power of Beerus (why not? they can bring back several universes instantly, but not grant the power of a single god of destruction?) are absolutely fair game.
@@hweidigivthere are no known limits to the super dragon balls right now, everyone keeps saying stuff like "oh they can't erase zeno though" because sure that would make sense, but fact is, there's no proof of that. same with gogeta's stardust breaker cleansing souls, yes technically it could make sense, but again there's no statement that says it does. janemba could've turned back into the oni if he was killed by anything else, who knows, broly could've just been closer to gogeta's power than janemba was, therefore surviving the attack based on durability alone, rather than because he's pure. videogames calling it soul punisher is the best you'll get, but that's just not good enough (yet it's still more evidence than the super dragon balls having limits)
Burter bragging he's the fastest in the universe when in the Frieza Force alone there are Ginyu, Frieza and Cold even before the Namek Saga is hilarious. Bro really thinks he's the hot stuff while in reality he's literally that meme in the thumbnail
In one of the Xenoverse games, I believe Ginyu states that sometimes Burter can beat him in a race. This could be interpreted as Burter being disproportionately fast for someone of his power, but not insanely so.
My fan canon for the Ginyu case is that he wanted to make Burter special somehow for propaganda. So Ginyu proclaimed that Burter was the fastest in universe to make him stand out, and Ginyu never really fought using 100% of his strength until he fought Goku, so Burtler never found out Ginyu's true strength, making him believe that he was, indeed, the fastest in the universe
Thanks for the super! I thought about this a LOT and it’s just really hard to give him the same points as Gas because he’s younger than Gas and thus starts a lot weaker. The only reason I’m even giving gas so much credit is with his instincts unleashed
Burter really called himself the fastest in the universe because he didn't want his mom to slap him for doing chores wrong, you can't make this stuff up
It could be that Jeice has stronger blasts while Burter has faster speeds with everything else tied... Power level increase is tied with stats increases, but it may change what each stat gets boosted each time the power level increases (like in pokemon, where each pokemon's nature dictates if they get stronger attack, sp atk, defence, sp def....
I see Burter being faster than Ginyu the way I see A-Train being faster than Homelander in The Boys. The former could be faster when it comes to long distance movement, but in close quarters combat, no way.
@ The ninja meme with the „low taper fade“ It still being popular is a meme now which means hearing the Word MASSIVE Makes everyone think of the low taper fade meme
Tbh I have no idea what even the intent was behind Butta's "fastest in the universe" claim. Like, given the way power levels tend to work, there was no way Toriyama was going to make Butta faster than Freeza or Ginyu, right?
The only thing I'll say is that counting Vegeta as faster is a bit of a stretch since he made the claim before Vegeta powered up and was incapacitated by the time that actually happened. Yes, there was that like 30 second overlap where Burter was technically alive after Vegeta got his senzu bean zenkai, but... until that very moment, Burter and the rest of the force (except Guldo) were clowning on him.
I know this is non-canon/from a game but fun fact, Popo himself can easily keep up with Burter, they have a unique dialogue in DBZ Kakarot with the soul medal system in the game if you place the medals by next to each other
@@Har22-c4s Bro dyspo negs burter gohan and frieza had to team up against dyspo with his purple aura lining and we talking about golden frieza and gohan ultimate form
@Har22-c4s Yeah I saw that coming its just gag I think Google just listens and not the powerscaling for example if burter claims he's the fastest google will read it and put him as fastest
To be honest, there is a huge chance that Burter didn't know any of the #1 until #10 (and also #13 until #17) He would be more correct if he said "fourth fastest of the Universe", but that is not a catchy name eh?
I always liked the idea that Burter could go from point A to point B faster than anyone else known by the empire at the time, only Freeza being faster in raw movement speed. Combat speed and travel speed are connected, but distinct. Goku was faster due to his immense control over his energy, able to go very high in short bursts and thus very fast. But even then, if he and Burter had raced around Namek, instead of fought over a short distance, I like to think Burter would have beaten him in a race had Goku not used at least a Kaioken x3. nothing supports this. I just like the headcanon
Burter is so fast, he comes home by 3 (he clocks out by 2) edit: I may be coping (I’m coping heavy) but Burter probably has a technique that makes him “the fastest in the universe” for real, but he didn’t show us
So In conclusion ginyu, abo and cado, piccolo, Vegeta, gas, goku, king cold, frieza, kibito, supreme kai, pui pui, yakon, majin buu, broly, moro, meerus, beerus, whis. Putting burter as the number 19 fastest in the universe. Number 21 if u count abo and cado seperately and also count friezas chair
“ well the captain has a higher power level, and a higher power level means being faster. And lord frieza is STRONEGR than CAPTIAN ginyu so doesn’t that mean he is faster than you. “
My headcanon is that Burter being the “fastest in the universe” is just a title he earned from some universal competition. In the same sense that winning the Tenkaichi Budokai (AKA the Strongest Under the Heavens Martial Arts Tournament) earns you the title of strongest in the world, even though, for example, Master Roshi was objectively not the strongest person in the world when he won the tournament.
I like to think Burter was fast for his power level. Frieza let's Burter brag about being the fastest in the universe because his speed is impressive in that range. Ginyu hypes up Burter because of team roles. Burter's speed, Ginyu's the leader, and so on
Man, i wish burter was atleast faster than ginyu, hell maybe even first form frieza. As it is specialization doesnt change anything dragon ball fights are doing a math problem and thats boring. Having a character be weaker in general but stronger in some aspects would be interesting
People forget how fast dragon ball characters are. I'm pretty sure in the saiyan saga gohan wasn't even able to keep track of the fighting because the characters were moving too fast. And thats only the FIRST ARC of dbz.
@CarthusDojo don't worry the burter we seen in namek saga was just an avatar the real one was around all the time but he was too fast no one can see him🗿
You missed Monaka the only mortal who gave Beerus a better fight than Goku given he was asleep from planet Vegeta's destruction until battle of god's it means he must have been at least god level at this point
I find it hard to believe Pui Pui is actually stronger than say, 30,000. He gets badly no-diffed by base vegeta who is way weaker than Shin and brags about 10x gravity like it's a trump card. Planet Vegeta was 10x gravity and the strongest warrior that was raised there was 18000 when we met them.
Base Vegeta is above Shin. And that logic makes no sense. Earth has 10x less gravity than Planet Vegeta, but produces warriors who could low diff the entire species (aside from the obvious) with absolute ease
@TheHomieToxic Shin shows in the Buu fight that he's relative to SSJ2 Gohan, and base Vegeta is weaker than Final Form Frieza due to Beerus' statement in all versions of BoG. Earth's warriors weren't stronger than Saiyans until after they got access to higher gravity anyways.
Shin literally scared of pui pui, and shin is the same person who said that frieza is nothing to him but base vegeta beat pui pui with no effort at all and shin is not comparable to ss2 gohan, cause he can't pull the z sword Beerus probably didn't expect a saiyan could suppress their power or it just another Toriyama forgot thing
I'd like to imagine that in an actual straightforward race he'd beat even form one Frieza but he has neither the agility or perception to utilize it much in combat. Effectively the equivalent of how theoretically the destructo disk is enough to one shot even true form Freiza, but that doesn't mean Krillin is the strongest in the universe.
Burter probably had the potential to be the fastest if he trained himself to be on-par with the strongest fighters. It's just that he wasn't actually on-par with those fighters.
8:50 i interpreted that line to emphasize how strong he became after the wish to be the strongest. Gas really could have been around bardocks power level making it a close fight. Allthe power vegeta was impressed by just shows how ridiculous the power jump was for gas.
Your list forgets several key things. 1: Weiss, Beerus, Supreme Kai, Kibito, Moro and Buu were all basically mythical beings not on the board Burter certainly didn't know about. 2: Goku and Piccolo got their boosts to surpass Burter after being dead and training with a Kai, Burter didn't even know about them til meeting Goku the day he died. 3: Ginyu, Frieza and Cold hadn't displayed their full might pretty much at ALL. No one had come close to pushing them to need to even TRY, so Burter may just have assumed he was faster, but not stronger since his Bosses never actually displayed their faster speed. What this does is make Burter's statement about being the "Fastest in the Universe" true, from a certain point of view, as when he shows up on Namek, as far as he(and nearly anyone else) knows, he IS the fastest in the universe.
I'm taking you to court for slander
Yeah
@@Bluehurricaneoftheginyuforce Bruh
bro so slow he's gonna be late to the trial 😭😭😭
bruh
cumedy
But what if burter tried 2% harder????
get Salad Saiyan on the case
@@CarthusDojo Can't wait for the "What If Burter Turned Good" what if
@@j-the-jolteon8351 I can wait actually
@@Bluehurricaneoftheginyuforceis he lying about u or are u actually faster then ginyu
@@j-the-jolteon8351 id kinda like that tbh
I like how it isn’t even faster to slowest its fastest to burter
Me when I’m in a lying competition and my opponent is a dragon ball character hyping themself up
"Gregory, he still be alive right now if he didn't gas himself up."
(I'm sorry, I had to.)
@@raniziter2547 Sayian saga? Bro oversold himself the whole series, even while getting his ass kicked.
Saiyan saga Vegeta when he said he is the strongest being in the universe while knowing the existence of Beerus,Frieza,King Cold,The Ginyu Force,Zarbon and Dodoria.
@@raniziter2547 even Qui would be just as powerful as he was stated to be equal to Vegeta before he got the Saiyan Saga Zenkai.
@@raniziter2547 bro got that massive great ape cope
and frieza uhhh... uh
Burter still taking L's 30 years later
Bro imagine being dead for 30+ years and still get dunked on by damn near everyone. 😭🙏
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Like his Boss Freezer
"Fastest to Burter" is the biggest Burter roast ever lol
Imma be honest, I thought you said "butter toast" instead of Burter roast lol
Thinking about it now. Wouldn't that be the pun for his name?
"When you think about it, Guldo can stop time, so technically..."
He doesn’t like when he’s compared to guldo
Buuuuuut, he needs to be fast enough to stop time to beat those that are faster than him. So, he's only faster once time is stopped, not when it's not and THAT matters. 😏👉🏻👉🏻
"NO I'M NOT SLOWER THAN F***ING GULDO"
I wish I knew Burter's line to continue this DBZ Abridged reference.
@@SavantPete Burter: NO! NO! I AM NOT SLOWER THAN F*CKING GULDO!!
you know what else is massive?
yeah, i do.
Your sub count?
My big Dragon Balls
LOWWWWWW
LLLOWWEE
Burter just wasnt trying his best
it was a bad day prob
@@randomidot123 I confirm this
@@Bluehurricaneoftheginyuforce Goaturter
@Karsthegoat on god
He did make gohan and krillin move in slow motion for a bit
"ok mate we need to talk about this whole fastest in the universe thing. First off the captain got a higher power level than you"
"Yeah so?"
"Well correct me if I'm worth but a higher power level means hes faster yeah"
"Welll ok... Maybe"
"And lord friezas got a higher power level than all of us"
"Ok That's just unfair"
"And if u think about it guldo can stop time so that technically makes him faster than"
"NOOO NOOO OK I'M NOT SLOWER THAN FUCKI** GULDO"
Why did you censor the one part of the word that wasn’t a swear
Useless ahh censoring
@@HuneeBruh the censor was too slow
Dbza reference noice
Censor’s slower than Guldo😂
Bro burter is faster than whis stop playing 😭
my b
he's fast but he doesn't apply himself
Literally never thought about this but the fact that there was a base saiyan most likely hundreds of times stronger than frieza and cell just chilling on vampa during all of dbz is kinda crazy to think about
That's exactly why the saiyans were wiped out, the risk of that happening on the regular was too high.
Hundreds of times stronger than frieza? Bit of a lowball isn’t it?
Well, the Brolies *are* the Legendary Super Saiyans. They kind of need to outpace everyone in their leagues to keep the hype coming.
How exactly did he "fly so far under the radar", though?
@ Because Freeza blew up the small handful of people who knew about Broly and nobody in their right mind would go to Vampa for any reason.
As far as I care, that statement might just be "fastest for their given power level," where there are those who are faster but are brute-forcing it by just having more raw power. Sure, Frieza can handedly out pace anyone in his army, but pump Burta to those levels, and his walking speed might look like teleportation.
"i'm faster than anyone as strong as me! Sadly, i'm weak as shit"
Usain Bolt of toddlers in a universe of grown adults
Burter has the highest base speed, but everyone else is a higher level than him. :P
Also, I would say that interpretation could apply for most of the characters mentioned like Frieza and Captain Ginyu (and I do prefer this explanation), but I don't think it would apply for a few characters; the gods and anyone sealed away, mainly. But of course, that can be easily explained as "there's no way that Burter would even know about these characters, so of course he wouldn't account for them."
He's like an ant if an ant was about yea big
Yeah I believe this is the most likely logic that was intended. Burter with PL of 10 would be faster than Frieza with PL of 10 (Could still be a stretch). This logic may also apply to Dyspo who will be faster than all the other members if their power levels are equal.
Burter : "I'll have you know I'm the fastest in the universe!"
Goku: "Yeah, your wife told me."
Kakarot is crazy for that😂
Nah that’s WILD!
Thats my favourite meme
Crazy 😭
I think the main problem was: higher power level = all stats are equally raised, which killed the idea of fighting specialties until perfect cell made fun of super trunks. Super trunks sacrificed speed for power, but if someone held cell down, he could have blown him away.
If Trunks got a grab on Cell, there'd be nothing he could do
Dyspo managed to bring this back: he was clearly weaker than Jiren but also the fastest in the ToP
@@redjirachi1 Dyspo was nowhere near faster than jiren. Jiren dodged Goku ultra instinct while Dyspo didn't even see Goku attacking Jiren. Dbs still has the same issue.
If only someone could have gotten Cell in a Full Nelson...
1:00 He moved so fast between these two panels it even took _Beerus_ by surprise, while he was staring _directly_ at him.
What even IS fast?
Why are you everywhere?!?
Family, that’s what fast…
Burter
- Sonic the Hedgehog
Fast is me replying to this comment
Hes already dead, bruh, stop beating the dead horse 😭🤚
Dead (Whatever Burter's species is), you mean.
he's slower than a horse
I really think the only way to explain this (outside of Toriyama simply changing his mind later) is that Burter had a VERY small scope of the universe and was severely overconfident in his speed. He THOUGHT he was the fastest in the universe.
Yeah I mean the Ginyu Force aren’t exactly the most humble guys around, Burter probably outpaced the other guys in the Frieza Force before being recruited by Ginyu and thought he was hot shit
maybe he won a contest or something that granted him the title and captain ginyu/frieza didn't join, so technically he was "fastest in the universe"
@@pigglesgoomshby7249 Well, I mean. The Ginyu force are literally the most powerful warriors in the universe. Keep in mind that the show focuses on unnatural freaks. Freeza's empire spanned most of the universe, they knew what people in the universe are capable of. Reminder that PuiPui - one of the strongest people in the universe was visibly slower in 10 times gravity. Ginyu force is the peak of strength. Freeza was an absolute freak. Androids and Cell literally didn't exist. Dabura was the king of the demon world, Buu is Buu, Beerus is Beerus and Broly is Broly. There's basically no normal mortals stronger than the Ginyu force.
@@RancorSnp He was a Freeza soldier. To him, Freeza's empire WAS the whole universe. And seeing as Gynyu himself hyped Burter up, it stands to reason that he himself had some excuse for the difference, so he was only beneath Freeza and Cold, who were essentially mystical creatures to any citizen of the empire.
@@RancorSnpyes but as carthu says there's no justifiable reason for anyone, including burter, to think ginyu is slower than burter
Burter is an example of those people who live inside of a bubble, theyre the best of the best but theyre at the lowest level once they enter an uncharted environment
Basically the best sports player in high school when they get into college
This character is the best example that Toriyama had a habit of calling his opponents "the best of the best" at something without thinking about what would happen next. Damn he knew there was someone like Freeza and he still gave him the nickname of the fastest in the universe
Maybe it was just Ginyu's motivation method and Burtor could really think that he is fastest in the Universe (yes even Frieza)
Character statements aren’t law , especially when they’re not any sort of authority
@@genda314 I like to think Burter was just jealous that every other member of the Ginyu Force had a shtick, so Ginyu was like, "Well, you beat Jeice and the others in that race once... How about we call you the 'fastest in the universe'?"
Would Cell be counted? Not the embryo Cell in Gero's lab, but the buried Future Cell cicada underground - while he's technically a cicada while Burter was alive and made the statement, he became one after "regressing" from his first form after killing future Trunks.
the timing of Future Cell arriving in the past is a bit dubious when it comes to Burter's death. it is kind of fun to think about tho
@@CarthusDojo Fair enough! Awesome video!
Well for Burter's claim you have to account for characters that the Ginyu Force would be aware of ("fastest in the universe" would necessarily need to mean "fastest in the known universe"), would register as people who could be counted (if they were aware of someone like Buu they would know that Buu is sealed and so that disqualifies him from a ranking), and that they can be provably faster than Burter on all fronts. Plus there are some figures that just outright go without saying - like in certain mythologies with pantheons of gods it's generally understood that unless someone is making a claim of being "greater than the gods" that even if they say "I am the greatest at [x]" then it is implied to not include gods in that ranking.
Not counting Freeza and King Cold would likely be classified as part of that unspoken "except gods and angels" category.
Captain Ginyu has a higher power level but there are two explanations 1. As a boss, Ginyu knows it's good for Burter's morale so he doesn't challenge him on it and in group battles would deliberately limit his speed unless absolutely necessary (given the Ginyu Force's reputation, it most likely was not necessary until Goku appeared), 2. Burter's speed is all-around higher than Ginyu's - in terms of top speed, acceleration, distance travel, etc. Ginyu might beat him in some aspects but Burter could still be faster as a whole.
Guldo has time stop but he can't use it for prolonged periods so you could easily argue that in any legitimate contest of speed, he'd still lose to Burter. Remember that even with his time stop, Guldo was being outsped by Gohan and Krillin.
But at its core it really just outlines the problem with power levels and the retcons to the timeline that happened later down the line, when a character is defined as being "the fast guy" then every enemy needs to be stronger and faster than the last.
Pretty sure any statement about "strongest/fastest in the universe" before Beerus woke up had an implicit "aside for the mythical God of Destruction I'm not even sure actually exists", with Frieza's men adding an implicit "besides lord Frieza and King Cold. Is King Cold even still alive?".
9:50 I might be conflating abridged with canon, but saying piccolo trained "with" king kai seems a bit of a stretch, more like he trained *near* king kai
I just watched some abridged this morning before work dude🤣🤣
Yooooo, nice profile picture my mans! I was not expecting to see someone with a pfp like mine😂
Now I see why Team Four Star payed a lot of attention to Burter in their Dragon Ball Z parody. Shout-out to Kaiser for voice acting the character.
I think it’s that his actual _travel_ speeds are disproportionately impressive compared power level, the same way Frieza himself is with his durability and resilience… BUT that also he lets it get to his head, and so he started to think his mid-combat speeds are similarly strong when… They’re about par for his power level.
Burter did not pay the zeni that he owed so Carthu decided to expose him
What if it’s more like a Marvel Juggernaut thing, where he gets faster the more he moves?
Even excluding Super, Burter is not really that fast compared to a lot of characters. I can only assume that the Ginyu's (and Frieza himself) hadn't really gotten around that much and didn't know much about the universe. If you think about it, Frieza only learned about the "magic balls of Namek" because of Vegeta, so Namek itself wasn't even on his radar until this time, and Neil was likely faster than Burter. It was either a statement from ignorance, or a bluff.
Burter is literally faster than anyone here though. He was just a little tired that day
Burta: “I’m the fastest in the universe!”
Vegeta: “Two questions: What are you on, and can I have some?”
I think ginyu's "speed" is more of a perception + coordination thing when Burter have high max speed or acceleration, like comparing fly to a rocket
He is,in my opinion,the buggest fraud in dragon ball.Other frauds like Mr.Satan atleast know they're a fraud,some other frauds actually do little stuff (Frost) but Burter does nothing,nothing.
What about dyspo who basically claim the same thing as burter even though Jiren is faster than him? He should be tied with burter in terms of being a speed fraud (though at least dyspo actually landed good hits, something burter didn't do)
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@@HotFootBunny Dyspo at least can actually blitz people far stronger than himself like Hit initially, Gohan and Golden Frieza. The only reason Gohan and Frieza won is because they trapped him making him unable to use his speed to the fullest extent
@@HotFootBunnyI mean to be fair he was moving at such insane speeds to the where it’s deserved to call him the fastest in the universe
Nah bro Mr Saten single handedly -survived- destroyed Cell and Buu 🗿
Bro is not a fraud, he's a whole hero
Whis wasn't fast enough to see Goku's bite attack coming. 😂
Lol
Nothing beats that. So that's not fair. 😂
No one’s ever ready for Goku to pull out the forest man tactics
Anime only scene, not canon
@@the_sam_strong don’t care
New avatar pose at 7:00. 🥳
“Please Guldo, I Neeeeed thiiiiis!”
“You’re kinda too fast for me…”
“Kinda” lol
Ginyu calls Burters' armor The Universe, so he technically is the fastest in it.
7:20 Lets not forget Frieza legit fought and killed Bardock IN THAT EXACT SAME CHAIR. Both Dbz Kakarot and the Movie.
The fact that guldo is faster than everyone cuz he can stops time disturbs me
Guldo might actually have a better time stop then hit. Because it’s based off how long he can hold his breath.
"NO NO NO IM NOT SLOWER THAN F*CKING GULDO
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"Guldo is faster than Whis" is a hilarious sentence😝
The real biggest lie was that the dragon balls can grant any whish
You got that right! Perhaps even if it’s the Super Dragon Balls!
Just cause they’re super, it doesn’t mean diddly squat!
@KaijuForceNeo what wish can't be granted by the super dragon balls?
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Bring someone back from the dead for the tenth time, as a quick example. Grant them the power of Beerus for another obviously unable to achieve goal. Making all lies true is tautologically impossible.
@@hweidigivthe last one just isn't fair, you're intentionally making a paradox.
that'd be like wishing for infinite power, and wishing for a stone that you can't lift.
any other silly limitations, though, like not being able to give you the power of Beerus (why not? they can bring back several universes instantly, but not grant the power of a single god of destruction?) are absolutely fair game.
@@hweidigivthere are no known limits to the super dragon balls right now, everyone keeps saying stuff like "oh they can't erase zeno though" because sure that would make sense, but fact is, there's no proof of that. same with gogeta's stardust breaker cleansing souls, yes technically it could make sense, but again there's no statement that says it does.
janemba could've turned back into the oni if he was killed by anything else, who knows, broly could've just been closer to gogeta's power than janemba was, therefore surviving the attack based on durability alone, rather than because he's pure. videogames calling it soul punisher is the best you'll get, but that's just not good enough (yet it's still more evidence than the super dragon balls having limits)
Burter bragging he's the fastest in the universe when in the Frieza Force alone there are Ginyu, Frieza and Cold even before the Namek Saga is hilarious. Bro really thinks he's the hot stuff while in reality he's literally that meme in the thumbnail
In one of the Xenoverse games, I believe Ginyu states that sometimes Burter can beat him in a race. This could be interpreted as Burter being disproportionately fast for someone of his power, but not insanely so.
My fan canon for the Ginyu case is that he wanted to make Burter special somehow for propaganda. So Ginyu proclaimed that Burter was the fastest in universe to make him stand out, and Ginyu never really fought using 100% of his strength until he fought Goku, so Burtler never found out Ginyu's true strength, making him believe that he was, indeed, the fastest in the universe
get that blue fraud💔💔
Still waiting for the “what if bulma never left yamcha” what if.
Would pre-wish Granolah be faster than Burtur?
Thanks for the super! I thought about this a LOT and it’s just really hard to give him the same points as Gas because he’s younger than Gas and thus starts a lot weaker. The only reason I’m even giving gas so much credit is with his instincts unleashed
Proof that just because some random characters say something, that doesn't necessarily mean it is true.
Burter gets betrayed and sealed in the time chamber and becomes the fastest in the universe.
Burter really called himself the fastest in the universe because he didn't want his mom to slap him for doing chores wrong, you can't make this stuff up
12:09 TFS did that first
Burter says he's the fastest in the universe when Jeice is tied with him lmao
It could be that Jeice has stronger blasts while Burter has faster speeds with everything else tied...
Power level increase is tied with stats increases, but it may change what each stat gets boosted each time the power level increases (like in pokemon, where each pokemon's nature dictates if they get stronger attack, sp atk, defence, sp def....
I see Burter being faster than Ginyu the way I see A-Train being faster than Homelander in The Boys.
The former could be faster when it comes to long distance movement, but in close quarters combat, no way.
*MASSIVE* lie
„Oh Boy here we go again“
what does that mean??? LOL
@ The ninja meme with the „low taper fade“
It still being popular is a meme now which means hearing the Word MASSIVE Makes everyone think of the low taper fade meme
i thought that aswell. brainrot is real
@@CarthusDojo It's LOW hanging fruit of a joke about a TAPEworm that will FADE away soon enough...
@@CarthusDojo low taper fade meme
Tbh I have no idea what even the intent was behind Butta's "fastest in the universe" claim. Like, given the way power levels tend to work, there was no way Toriyama was going to make Butta faster than Freeza or Ginyu, right?
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What if burter was locked in this hyperbolic time chamber for 1,000000000000000 years becomes the fastest in the multiveres
The only thing I'll say is that counting Vegeta as faster is a bit of a stretch since he made the claim before Vegeta powered up and was incapacitated by the time that actually happened. Yes, there was that like 30 second overlap where Burter was technically alive after Vegeta got his senzu bean zenkai, but... until that very moment, Burter and the rest of the force (except Guldo) were clowning on him.
I know this is non-canon/from a game but fun fact, Popo himself can easily keep up with Burter, they have a unique dialogue in DBZ Kakarot with the soul medal system in the game if you place the medals by next to each other
No joke when i searched on the Internet it said burter was faster than dyspo💀
Bruh….
Dyspo can't even touch my Man Burter. Burter is way faster than dyspo.
Atleast some people know the truth.
@@Har22-c4s Bro dyspo negs burter gohan and frieza had to team up against dyspo with his purple aura lining and we talking about golden frieza and gohan ultimate form
@browhotfisyojiandsukuana I feel weird that I need to say this but that was a joke. Its like people saying mr satan is the strongest
@Har22-c4s Yeah I saw that coming its just gag I think Google just listens and not the powerscaling for example if burter claims he's the fastest google will read it and put him as fastest
To be honest, there is a huge chance that Burter didn't know any of the #1 until #10 (and also #13 until #17)
He would be more correct if he said "fourth fastest of the Universe", but that is not a catchy name eh?
Burter was the fastest his delivery runs have yet to be topped
To keep it plain and simple, the writers wanted to hype him up. (basically giving him an ego trip)
Well perhaps he still could have the fastest unaided speed. No ki, magic, or otherwise enhanced, just pure leg muscles baby.
I always liked the idea that Burter could go from point A to point B faster than anyone else known by the empire at the time, only Freeza being faster in raw movement speed. Combat speed and travel speed are connected, but distinct. Goku was faster due to his immense control over his energy, able to go very high in short bursts and thus very fast. But even then, if he and Burter had raced around Namek, instead of fought over a short distance, I like to think Burter would have beaten him in a race had Goku not used at least a Kaioken x3.
nothing supports this. I just like the headcanon
Burter is so fast, he comes home by 3 (he clocks out by 2)
edit: I may be coping (I’m coping heavy) but Burter probably has a technique that makes him “the fastest in the universe” for real, but he didn’t show us
So In conclusion ginyu, abo and cado, piccolo, Vegeta, gas, goku, king cold, frieza, kibito, supreme kai, pui pui, yakon, majin buu, broly, moro, meerus, beerus, whis. Putting burter as the number 19 fastest in the universe. Number 21 if u count abo and cado seperately and also count friezas chair
“ well the captain has a higher power level, and a higher power level means being faster. And lord frieza is STRONEGR than CAPTIAN ginyu so doesn’t that mean he is faster than you. “
0:08 you know what else is massive?
My headcanon is that Burter being the “fastest in the universe” is just a title he earned from some universal competition. In the same sense that winning the Tenkaichi Budokai (AKA the Strongest Under the Heavens Martial Arts Tournament) earns you the title of strongest in the world, even though, for example, Master Roshi was objectively not the strongest person in the world when he won the tournament.
9:30 YOU MADE A MISTAKE!!!!!!!! YOU MADE A MISTAKE IN YOUR VIDEO THAT WILL EXIST FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOUR CREATION IS TAINTED :D
It’s not that deep. U making it seem like he’s the only DBZ RUclipsr to make a mistake, but no one else, like chill and relax
I like to think Burter was fast for his power level. Frieza let's Burter brag about being the fastest in the universe because his speed is impressive in that range. Ginyu hypes up Burter because of team roles. Burter's speed, Ginyu's the leader, and so on
IN ABRIDGED,HE GOT COOKED BY JEICE
7:18
My headcanon is that the bubble car isn't actually powered.. Freeza is just flying normally and wants to feel like a special little boy.
Burter: “No! No! I am not slower than fucking Guldo!”
Man, i wish burter was atleast faster than ginyu, hell maybe even first form frieza. As it is specialization doesnt change anything dragon ball fights are doing a math problem and thats boring. Having a character be weaker in general but stronger in some aspects would be interesting
4:36 scaring Shin is not that hard 😭
I could be pooping and scare shin sh**less
@@brandygaddis3299Are you way above the power of Frieza? Had no idea.
I'd probably scare him after a few minutes of training. XD
People forget how fast dragon ball characters are. I'm pretty sure in the saiyan saga gohan wasn't even able to keep track of the fighting because the characters were moving too fast. And thats only the FIRST ARC of dbz.
give that blue snake a break bro💀💀
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@CarthusDojo don't worry the burter we seen in namek saga was just an avatar the real one was around all the time but he was too fast no one can see him🗿
You missed Monaka the only mortal who gave Beerus a better fight than Goku given he was asleep from planet Vegeta's destruction until battle of god's it means he must have been at least god level at this point
1 view in 1 minute??? Carthu fell down
I find it hard to believe Pui Pui is actually stronger than say, 30,000. He gets badly no-diffed by base vegeta who is way weaker than Shin and brags about 10x gravity like it's a trump card.
Planet Vegeta was 10x gravity and the strongest warrior that was raised there was 18000 when we met them.
Base Vegeta is above Shin. And that logic makes no sense. Earth has 10x less gravity than Planet Vegeta, but produces warriors who could low diff the entire species (aside from the obvious) with absolute ease
@TheHomieToxic Shin shows in the Buu fight that he's relative to SSJ2 Gohan, and base Vegeta is weaker than Final Form Frieza due to Beerus' statement in all versions of BoG.
Earth's warriors weren't stronger than Saiyans until after they got access to higher gravity anyways.
Shin literally scared of pui pui, and shin is the same person who said that frieza is nothing to him but base vegeta beat pui pui with no effort at all and shin is not comparable to ss2 gohan, cause he can't pull the z sword
Beerus probably didn't expect a saiyan could suppress their power or it just another Toriyama forgot thing
2:14 face fricking reveal? Or am I slow and he did it years before
No he uses his face quite frequently
Yeah he does it all the time lol
@ guess I just dont watch the long videos that much
He literally has a gaming channel where he shows his face
You're burter
He may not be physically but burter is the fastest in our hearts
alternate title "Is Burter really is the fastest in the universe?"
What if burter was betrayed and locked in the time chamber tho?
Whoever has Ultra Instinct are the fastest when it comes to reflexes.
The name “Spammy” is really fitting
Ki boost base stats, he could very well be the fastest normal mortal.
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@@CadeGossmanyou did not, he just liked your comment.
@nekodium2801 no he pinned it look at it
I'd like to imagine that in an actual straightforward race he'd beat even form one Frieza but he has neither the agility or perception to utilize it much in combat.
Effectively the equivalent of how theoretically the destructo disk is enough to one shot even true form Freiza, but that doesn't mean Krillin is the strongest in the universe.
How am i this early. My god
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Burter probably had the potential to be the fastest if he trained himself to be on-par with the strongest fighters. It's just that he wasn't actually on-par with those fighters.
First to the goat it’s an honor
not quite but close!
@ bro my favorite RUclipsr of the last 3 years responded to my comment. I’m literally forcing my soul back into my body
Goku should be faster than Vegeta.When goku landed on namek he killed recoome,burter and ginyu before he went in healing pod
First
Maybe 🤔
Is bro the fastest?
8:50 i interpreted that line to emphasize how strong he became after the wish to be the strongest. Gas really could have been around bardocks power level making it a close fight. Allthe power vegeta was impressed by just shows how ridiculous the power jump was for gas.
Burter HAD to have known that his own Captain would be faster than himself, and Frieza goes without saying 😅
Your list forgets several key things.
1: Weiss, Beerus, Supreme Kai, Kibito, Moro and Buu were all basically mythical beings not on the board Burter certainly didn't know about.
2: Goku and Piccolo got their boosts to surpass Burter after being dead and training with a Kai, Burter didn't even know about them til meeting Goku the day he died.
3: Ginyu, Frieza and Cold hadn't displayed their full might pretty much at ALL. No one had come close to pushing them to need to even TRY, so Burter may just have assumed he was faster, but not stronger since his Bosses never actually displayed their faster speed.
What this does is make Burter's statement about being the "Fastest in the Universe" true, from a certain point of view, as when he shows up on Namek, as far as he(and nearly anyone else) knows, he IS the fastest in the universe.
if it wasn't clear the list is to see how wrong he is, not to prove he knew better