I rebuilt a custom neo sub for SPL - Tech Stuff Tuesday
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After watching your channel I decided to attempt a rebuild of a dual 1ohm ssa icon 15 sub.
Made it a dual 4 ohm and it is even better then the icon . I did this for home use on a plate amp for theater use and it is wonderful.
My very first sub build
Thank you for your helpful videos
Hey
My amp is bash 500 watt and it is a insane good quality amp I have bash 300 watt as well love them
Nice👌
About 8 years ago I purchased some dd 18's brand new the clue joints were horrible and dust cap rattled off...since then I have learned how to build my own subs for my burp car with the help of talented people like yourself...learning every day!
I know what you're talking about with the caps. Assembly method is as important as the materials.
I'm so glad you make videos someone with your knowledge needs a platform because we can't all be your aprintace but with videos like this we are able to at least learn some of what you know
I’m just here to learn. Thanks for the knowledge
Same, I continue to watch and rewatch to make sure I get everything
Same
I know a lot of people like to throw opinions around even if they never even attempted to rebuild and or recone a single sub lol. I think you do a great job and I appreciate your videos and the information of your videos. I can tell you take great pride in your work. Thank you and just know you are appreciated.
If a small percent of people with aftermarket car audio watch car audio RUclips vids, then a small percent of those watch vids for troubleshooting and research on how to diagnose their problems with their gear and decide if they are going to fix it or pay someone, then a small percent of those interested to Diy watch content of people actually explaining the process to Diy, then a small percent of those actually do the diy. Then a very small percentage of car audio enthusiasts watch vids like these just because we know what it takes to do this properly and we appreciate anyone with solid experience on the subject willing to give up their time to share their craft and passion to help others. I’m guessing the later percentage of people is extremely small, but I imagine they give the best feedback, usually watch the majority of the content and let you know when it’s a good upload. 👍🏽👍🏽 man. Solid vid. You might have just convinced me to buy some gear from you to support a fellow enthusiast. I’ll go check out the site and see what I can swing with out the wifey getting too mad on my obsession with buying more gear when......, “There’s a shit ton of it in the garage that’s doing what, ya nothing” lol. I love her Though😂
I'm catching up on the old stuff. Loving the format and amount of info contained in your content. Thank you sir
I hate that u have so many people being negative about what u r doing. I have enough control of my actual life to not post comments putting down what everybody else does. I enjoy ur content and hope u keep making vids.
Yes, I’m with you there. Damn one idiot is taking it way too far. I hate people like that. Great videos in this channel.
Man you weren’t lying about the coil being loud. Goodness
What site sells good coils? I’ve been researching and am really sketched out about buying crappy coils.
nate0 thanks for the info! I’ve watched a million videos. So I think I’m getting close to ready to try it. lol.
What the hell was this sub a motor cycle of a set of mufflers it was hideous the coil was way to loud but who cares when your trying it on the meater. Still I would never buy this thing way to strange.
Try not to laugh when it turns on I laugh so hard I almost got a twinge in my stomach and fell over sounded like a race car not a subwoofer but in a box I bet it would make your car sound fast😁😁😁😁😁😁😥😥😥😭😭😵
great video .....i have a question i have a pair of 18 inch subs .could i use the motor from the 18 to build a pair of 24 inch subs..?..the voice coils are 76mm.......these will be for a hometheater....
Nice build. I flip cars and get car audio all the time. I got a Fi BTL 18” and an amp for free and threw it in my 16 yr old sons Jeep lol. Omg that thing is loud.
I’ll take this time to say great work from what i can see! I’ve seen and did this more times then i want to remember. Thanks for a great video!
I want to build a 12 inch dual 2 ohm SQ subwoofer specifically for a sealed box. I like my bass rich, tight, and accurate.
I enjoy seeing you modifying/ fixing subwoofers! 👍👍
I found this to be educational as I am getting ready to build a set of subs..Kudos Bro
So I have a question I have an early 90s octagon so invega 15-in stroker car sub it's got all the components just needs a new coil and spiders drop them I have original dust cap and original cone would you be able to get it fully functioning?
that company sells a complete allen bolt drop in recoil and cone kit complete... 10 minutes...done
Red heat shrink for positive would be cool looking not complaining looks is allways appealing luv watching
WOW Man you are incredible, you do this like ABC easy as can be, 👌🤔🤔 I guess what I'm trying to say is you spend some time doing this perfecting it very good job keep up the good work keep making masterpieces I'm learning a lot just from this one video. 💯🏆🥇A Big Thanks EMF you got it going on!
By the way don't pay any attention to what critics say I'm pretty new to watching you videos, I see no flaw in what you do.🤜✌️
no complaints. I just like watching you work.
Awesome video with awesome tips!
🔊👍🏻😎👍🏻🔊
Man I wished I had a quarter of the talent that you have. Very awesome video. Very interesting. Thanks for another great video...
excellent craftsmanship slammy!
You are a wizard of the audio arts...
totally awesome video sir! excellent work!!!
If you have any of this guys older stuff its dope back when he used to build it all.
I use Andrew Floyd 5eight audio (he said he knows you haha)
I need to rebuild a 15" I have. The person who built it put Floating tinsel leads under the bottom spiders so when it was played the leads would ground out on the basket. Lanzar optidrive magnet with Rf hx2 basket. Not sure if its a great combo.
That is an awful idea for leads.
No complaints here. Great video
I'd like to hear from the customer 3 to 4 weeks in.
Curious as to what kind of powers going to be on this sub? I got a 5k on each of my 15s
They're doing a power limited class, a few of them I believe between organizations.
He's planning to go to Finals in MWSPL Trunk 2K & USACI Trunk 3K.
@@dnlpnd who's the person?
Great Video! Part I and part II were very educational. Everything you did and said made perfect sense, except for hand-writing on the dust cap. ;)
I have no complaints I love your work buddy
Not a complaint, but more of a suggestion:
A 100 watt Weller will solder those leads without torching the spider(s).
I solder my crimp connects on the 12v side with a torch, then heat shrink them.
I'm just OCD when it comes to soldering, I guess.
Good advise..except weller!!weller are dogshit !! everyone i bought or use has broke within a month or 2....and thier "100 watt" is not constant on!!! its automatically controled like off for like 2 minutes and then on for 15 seconds!!! fucking irritating!!!
You did a bang- up job!¡ Congratulations!¡
ULTRA informative! Makes me want to rebuild a sub now.... maybe my brothers blown jl w10? V3? from when we were younger. Would at least put a smile on his face as a surprise.
Looks like a Fire Igniter sub :)
that is what i like about you man, you are a no bullshit kind of guy! thanks for the video, great work! keep them coming!
With all those clips on the top it kind of looked like a amusement ride at a fair😀😁😁😁
Looks like a fi BTL neo
Thats what i thought to with a different basket
Cool story bro! Lmao!! One of your best vids,thanks man
Bonjour de la France........ excellent travail électro-mécanique
31:00 No complaints on the soldering job, but you said it's not possible to soak solder all the way through without a torch. Now, I do not know what's the heat tolerance of the spider and such, but if you have a big enough iron with enough heat capacity, it's no problem to soak solder all the way through those thick wires. Does it matter? Maybe, maybe not. But the way you solder them obviously works well enough, and thats what matters. :)
I wouldn't feel comfortable saturating heat that much with a soldering iron. It would disperse through the leads extremely fast and the wire at a much slower rate. You could essentially burn the leads before heating through the wire entirely.
Yeah, I'm not too familiar with your particular application, just pointed out that soaking heavy gauge wires with solder isn't too difficult with enough heat capacity on the iron, but obviously you have to adapt to the specific leads and materials around so you don't burn stuff.
im going to attempt to re-wind my voice coil for my 10 inch boss phantom 2100 watts 2 ohm. what gauge wire should i get? i measured it with my calipers and i get .35 mm's. i found some 32 gauge coated copper magnet wire on amazon. was thinking that would work?. my first attempt at re-wining. a guy crapped me on the speakers. and i trusted him.. i got the speakers apart without having to cut anything. so gonna re-use everything i possibly can
“She’s faster than a cheetah on cocaine!" That Charger build tho!
Clampy Mc clamps called and wants his clamps back
Scarecrow from the wizard of Oz called....he wants his comment back 😂🤣😂
Can you add more magnets to make the coil taller and can adding a thicker surround and a thicker spider increase the amount of excursion the subwoofer has when building a subwoofer
The coil is taller by making the coil taller, it has nothing to do with the magnets. A thicker surround and thicker (stiffer) spiders could REDUCE the amount of excursion a sub has. If the motor isn't strong enough to drive the coil for the suspension stiffness, it won't move as much.
So what are you clamping at? Jp great job. Really enjoyed all the info and your craftsmanship.
Beautiful work like always keep the good content coming.
??? 15:40 mark how do you determine the ”mark” ???
I'd like to see up close shots when your doing some of the technical intricate things like soldering the direct leads and the glueing but still awesome video
I've had several mention soldering up close. Do people like to watch it melt or something?
@@EMFAudio I would say it's more or less watching the technique.
Another good video and not afraid to speak truth about about a product
Ahhhh your living the dream , very good vid nice and thorough
Are you using 3% silver lead free solder or is there something better. Thanks in advance.
What is the point or ease to sobering cables to the leads? I like push terminals makes things seem more quality.
That is a long running debate. Some claim it's louder but nobody has supplied supporting evidence to prove so that I'm aware of. In the case of this sub, the owner wants to avoid breaking terminals installing it and the leads are long enough to connect to bolts inside the box. Only in the most exaggerated cases could there be some tenths to be gained, like over 20,000 watts, MIGHT gain a few tenths.
can you explain how the EM Audio subwoofer has a 4" coil and a 8000 watt RMS rating? I see alot of other subs with 4" coil only being 4500 rms. EM Audio super team
Do or can flux be used to help the soldier fill the wire lead?
It can be used, but the coils we use are prepped so you don't have to.
I totally agree on the threadlocker I hate using that and I hate working on something that had that used on it
Nice video, i woul have liked if you shared subwoofer specs as well as end results
awesome content very informative . you may want to try and get yourself a metcal soldering station as this will make soldering up a doddle :) I have found that they perform really well for soldering larger gauge joints
Question i was runnung old school mb quart q series components was 2 8s 2 5 n quarters, 2 tweeters on an old school ads ph15 i had to pull system out of the car when i pulled the 8s out both positive tinsels were snapped? I shouldn't have been able to send the to much power i was also running.a 3 way set ct sounds meso 6.5 comps on same amp the quarts are bi ampable so thats how i ran them. Question is anyone have idea what would make it snap, and is it fixable? Thanks
Thanks for all of the knowledge you give out on this channel, much needed in this industry.
So Sean question for ya, when it comes to adhesives and subwoofers, for the most part is it the bigger the gob the better the job or a little dab will do ya?? Within reason of course.
In more cases than not, having excessive adhesive is just a waste of adhesive. I don't generally try to find how how little adhesive can be used. I make a best guess (which isn't a ton) and if there is an issue I adjust. Having enough to bond the entire surface area is my starting point.
It's got to be a SMD lol. Thanks for the videos great job
It js originally a btl neo with a second btl motor added made by fi audio
The guys at Fi had originally built it. but thats all i know
I recognize it was making a joke with the double motors like the original SMDs and all the drama he got from the SMD meter
@@exdime lol
@@exdime I gotcha went over my head but yes that would be funny af to rag out the smd subs I always thought fi would be top do industry my btls were some of the best subs I have had, but to pick up some zv5 's so I will know soon if they r better or worse
Inserting Complaint : Gee Why Haven't I Built A Subwoofer 😂. Oh And Damn Man Look At All Those Clamps! Somebody Is Compensating For Something 🤣. Awsome Video!
I wanted to ask u a question that im sure u have been asked so many times before or maybe not either way i have Tremendous respect for you I think your a genius so ur opinion truly matters to me in ur opinion if u had the choice what would u consider to be the best SUBWOOFER out there i know ur really busy so if i don't hear from u i truly understand and thank u.
The problem with "best" is there is no single answer. There is best for an application. What's best for one thing is the worst for another, and what's better for many things won't be the best at any single thing.
I will say the glue job on my btl was sloppy af and they were like three weeks late first estimate was three weeks seven weeks later I had to email them
Can u get custom coil size like 3.3 inch coil diameter?
nice work 🔊
Hey I have that cheapo harbor freight flash light lol I think it was free when they opened a new store near me
Awesome video thx for your Time and effort
Banging job 😎✌
I wonder what the gauss is on a incriminator warden R3 motor
That stacked magnet like that could work if you put a spider behind the magnet. It would fix the balance/rub issues but it would make the speak 24 inches deep. Lol. Maybe not such a great design to begin with.
Serious suggestion.... but what if you put the neo magnets inside the coil?????
Some do that, it goes on top of the pole. It does add some motor strength and there is a right way and wrong way to go about doing it to not have adverse effects.
EMF Audio I didn’t know that, I thought all were external of the coil. Haha I’d like to understand magnets and induction better. I wonder if there’s more efficient ways to get power through. Or longevity of subwoofers. like a thin layer of silicone on the inside of the magnet protecting the coil.. I think this new stuff is awesome!
@@OK-st9st The protection as you put it isn't necessary. There is no contact, and the inner diameter of the magnet is greater than the top plate inner diameter so there is an air gap much greater anyway.
What's the spray bottle after the glue?
Accelerator.
Clamps are like cowbell...can always use more!
Good job.
I've seen those neo motors before.. In the "For the Love of Bass" group on Facebook
Every single day. I am SO happy that America still has people here that build stuff right in our own backyard. I know it can be expensive. Sure. But each and every time I buy a tool, or item I know I'm going to have for the long run? Can't go wrong with a man or women who really knows their stuff & takes great pride, time and effort in what they do.
Watching this is like watching one of the masters of the kitchen make a great Desert. Its not just taste (or in this case sound) but its the artistry that goes behind it that makes it so much more fulfilling. Kind of like when a Barista makes art work with the creme' in your coffee.
You can tell he enjoys what he does and its more like a conversation at a Bar or BBQ rather then some forced or semi scripted Boogle about today's fish that is going to turn on the menu. It really is enjoyable to watch and listen too. I wish he would get a better Microphone like a Newman however. The Audio recording could use more air or space. It seems a bit compressed for my taste. Course, not many listen to this on a High end system. So I'm in the minority.
Again, thank you for the great content and its a pleasure to watch. Great way to relax after a long hard day.
Coffee in hand, and a cigar. What a wonderful way to wind down the evening.
The recording level is a bit hot with that mic and I have since gotten a new one so I don't have a separate track to sync but I'm working out quirks with noise on that one. I do think you have a skewed idea about things made in America though. Americans make garbage too, Americans have some of the worst work ethics and many jobs have high turnover because they think they're too good for the job so you never get experienced people in a position. A good product is about WHO made it, not where it's made.
@@EMFAudio Well You were made in America. So.. I guess My point still stands :-) I get what your saying however. I just like Home Grown items as I take Pride in owning them. Have a great one!
Yet again another fantastic vid from you I'm hooked and have been from the beginning God bless ya👌👌👏👏👏👏👏🙏😊
First time subscriber from New Jersey I really like the way that you rebuild the subwoofer to your specifications♡♡ I have some American Bass 10 inch subwoofers in one of my videos and was wondering if they do go one day if there is a recone kit possible.. might send you the work or might attempt it myself I specialize in electrical Diagnostics and a little bit OCD on things..♡♡♡ Tom from new Jersey stay safe and healthy..SPL can't get us sick just people... going to check out your other videos♡♡♡
To recone that we'd have to have them in house, which also means shipping costs both ways.
That's a good amount of neo on there. It's a shame the motor force isn't what it should be.
It goes to show, a strong motor isn't necessarily a big motor, and big motor (or fancy motor) isn't necessarily a good motor.
@@EMFAudio The design is crucial i agree
@@EMFAudio you can take the hoe out the bitch, but cant take the bitch out the hoe😂❤😂
Big damn sub
I wanna see how they do
Dude that’s awesome
Incoming complaint, but only because you asked (31:30) - did you account for the extra mass you added when you used like 6lbs of solder?!?
The mass on the leads under the dustcap really isn't that much. The solder on the leads at the basket isn't part of moving mass.
@@EMFAudio while that's factually correct, I just don't find it nearly as funny
Good 😊👍 i have 152,9 Dezibel at home 😁
If you are able to take plyers and twist until the throw away end of the zip tie breaks off and it will not cut you later 😁
Would a btl be half as strong as this sub? or is it just a bad design
I don't know what the FEA analysis would look like exactly, I would think from experience that it wouldn't be half but I wouldn't rule it out. If it was in fact half, a Lowballer would be stronger.
How much it costs?
BROTHA ur a BEAST if anyone talks $#'+ there just HATERS u make AMAZING SUBWOOFERS i would TRUST u with anything some people just have to say things just to hear there self talk i think they talk smack because they are so jealous that they couldn't do what u do know matter how hard they tried everything u do i give it a 💯PERCENT 👍🏼👍🏼 [✌🏽💪🏽🔈✌🏽💪🏽🔉✌🏽💪🏽🔊 ]
Is this an FI BTL Neo? Why didn't you tell us who made the woofer? Also how come you don't like direct connect subs?
These were a custom build, I didn't mention who makes it because people cry fowl if I name names and say anything less than exemplary.
I don't know if there is a reason you don't use flux. I have had a good experience with Amtech flux. It makes soldering much easier!
Tinned leads don't need it, among other reasons. Basically if it isn't needed, I don't use it.
What is that a fi audio prototype motor?
Nothing prototype about it.
@@EMFAudio got it
It looks like a custom FI motor
One more thing if all subwoofers and speakers were built this way this much attention to detail that would be no more rebuilds unless somebody did not know how to properly play one of these good job.
I can learn a lot from you.
Looks like some robot underground build with that jank spider smh what that have like a 3 mm xmax?
Just tuned in but right off the bat that spider is tiny and the surround is small. Im sure you'll get it right.
Whats the rms on that sub
You should do emf yard sale or surprise me like sundown
You mean like in the yard sale section that's been on our website for years? I've gotta update that part. I did a "surprise me" before, it wasn't popular.
Awesome! I’ve been out of the car audio business for years so I’m still learning what’s out there
Awesome video!!!
Excellent video brodi
What is the purpose of triple joint ring?
Strengthen the joint.