The Rolex Bubble & Hands-On With A Paul Newman Daytona Found in a $25 Couch (8 Rare Watches)

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  • Опубликовано: 29 дек 2019
  • In this video, I visit my friends at Bob's watches in Newport Beach to chat with their CEO, Paul Altieri. In our chat, we discuss the Rolex bubble, how brands can embrace pre-owned sellers, and we look at some incredibly rare Rolex watches including a $250,000 Paul New Daytona found in a $25 thrift store couch.
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  • @TeddyBaldassarre
    @TeddyBaldassarre  4 года назад +66

    Hey all, I hope you are having a great holiday season and that you enjoy the video. I always enjoy doing these styles of videos more so if you like please do give it a thumbs up as that helps me out. For those wanting to zone in on the Rolex bubble part of our conversation, we start discussing it at 15:44 - QUESTION FOR YOU ALL: What would you do with a Paul Newman Daytona if you found it in your couch? Would you keep it or sell it? If you sell it, what would you buy? See you in the next one, I have some big videos coming soon!

    • @saynototheborg
      @saynototheborg 4 года назад +1

      Teddy Baldassarre great video as always

    • @TeddyBaldassarre
      @TeddyBaldassarre  4 года назад +1

      Thanks Peter!

    • @paulrobertclayton5352
      @paulrobertclayton5352 4 года назад +2

      I would keep,it as an investment.
      How much did the lady get for it ?

    • @tonydiaz9458
      @tonydiaz9458 4 года назад +1

      i would most definately hold onto it for a minimum of 5-10 years, wear it, enjoy it, let it keep going up in value, that or sell it as soon as my wife finds out how much its worth lol, after that i would get a couple of rolex's, sum tattoos, sum shoes, travel a little, put sum funds into the stock market, as well as in the bank, we already have a house, just my 2 cents, great video as usual teddy

    • @rizzobjones7548
      @rizzobjones7548 4 года назад +1

      @@paulrobertclayton5352 250 gs I think

  • @alphaTrader.oo1
    @alphaTrader.oo1 4 года назад +142

    Pawn star: Best I can do is 100 together with the couch

  • @A1KP
    @A1KP 4 года назад +50

    "GMTs are up triple what they should be worth, they are a great buy..."
    That's like saying you buy a stock once its skyrocketed in price.

  • @sydzul
    @sydzul 4 года назад +52

    "Do you take kidney?" 😆😆😆

  • @robertm.9633
    @robertm.9633 4 года назад +45

    Newsflash: Watch dealer does not see a bubble. May see a “correction“ in the market. Love the spin!

  • @garysmith1477
    @garysmith1477 4 года назад +110

    If I found a Paul Newman Daytona in my sofa, I’d never sell it.

    • @wolfdna788
      @wolfdna788 4 года назад +42

      Father in her 90s so she's probably 65ish and she wants some new titties. Don't tell me that doesn't make sense

    • @gmshadowtraders
      @gmshadowtraders 4 года назад +5

      She's a woman.

    • @orionh5535
      @orionh5535 4 года назад +3

      I would, cus id have to pay taxes on the watch

    • @apt62
      @apt62 4 года назад +2

      @@wolfdna788 Boob job at 60s is a must!

    • @timothysmith7478
      @timothysmith7478 4 года назад +2

      Wolf DNA Could be much younger. We’re talking her dad, not mom. Speaking from personal experience

  • @jonathanland2218
    @jonathanland2218 4 года назад +30

    I lost my Daytona whilst sitting on a couch about 30 years ago - honestly. I think that could be my watch!

    • @FUNZO1975
      @FUNZO1975 2 года назад +1

      @Jonathan Land
      I hear you brah, same thing happened to mine.

    • @greaterbayareahero1401
      @greaterbayareahero1401 Год назад +1

      It was an Invicta you lost , I believe 😆

  • @donde2k
    @donde2k 4 года назад +2

    Teddy, the production quality on this vid is top flight. Congratulations on the growth of your channel!

  • @sirIancarter
    @sirIancarter 4 года назад

    Great video Teddy. Paul is awesome. I love the long form conversation format, and the camera work is looking really good these days too

  • @jamesherrington5606
    @jamesherrington5606 4 года назад +13

    The shop owner seems like a cool and interesting guy.

  • @rousseau327
    @rousseau327 4 года назад +2

    Man, last time you were at Bob’s Watches, you overpowered the guest on the channel. This time you did great! Awesome to see you improving and succeeding Teddy, happy 2020 bro

  • @gievanhappen
    @gievanhappen 4 года назад +1

    Amazing video Teddy! Great shots and awesome stories! Really enjoying this video at 1u30 in the morning haha. Best wishes and hopefully an amazing new year with a lot of great stories and adventures.

    • @TeddyBaldassarre
      @TeddyBaldassarre  4 года назад +1

      Thank you my friend! Thanks for watching! Now get some sleep haha

  • @jonathanland2218
    @jonathanland2218 4 года назад +1

    Teddy - great video - Paul’s depth of knowledge pertaining to the watch industry is probably without equal. Furthermore his passion for our mutual passion for watches really shines through. That’s the basis of his obvious success. Thank you.

  • @JB-xt3ly
    @JB-xt3ly 4 года назад

    Thanks for the great content Teddy! Had a bad experience with a certain online dealer but still enjoyed the video.

  • @drwindsurf
    @drwindsurf 4 года назад

    Fantastic video. Thank you Teddy...Happy New Year :)

  • @jonnybreakz
    @jonnybreakz 4 года назад +5

    "Its a square crown guard because if you look at the crown its protected by crown guards but the crown guards are squared off. " thats genius

  • @My6216
    @My6216 4 года назад +40

    I once found a cookie and boy that was ok with me

    • @TeddyBaldassarre
      @TeddyBaldassarre  4 года назад +3

      Could think of much worse to pull out of a couch cushion.

  • @karl_m3013
    @karl_m3013 4 года назад +6

    I really like your videos where you go visit people and especially when you visit a factory and then put your spin on the story.

    • @TeddyBaldassarre
      @TeddyBaldassarre  4 года назад +1

      Thanks, Karl! I enjoy videos like these the most anyways. Have some of the sort coming!

  • @CarsInDimension
    @CarsInDimension 4 года назад +43

    An item going up 40% in value in months is practically the definition of a bubble.

    • @bjornfollin5056
      @bjornfollin5056 4 года назад +4

      No it's not. By definition you don't know that it's a bubble until the price crashes.

    • @surfeno
      @surfeno 2 года назад

      This is as simple as Supply vs.Demand

    • @MK-lc4mi
      @MK-lc4mi 2 года назад

      I think people are also discounting inflation too. These collectible items are just matching dollar value this is why we buy

    • @FTDFahrzeugtechnikBahnenDessau
      @FTDFahrzeugtechnikBahnenDessau Год назад

      @@bjornfollin5056 Guess what? The price crashed.

  • @jimt7292
    @jimt7292 4 года назад +4

    Superb Teddy!! Really enjoyed listing to Paul's stories behind the watches. Great content Teddy! And I wouldn't hesitate purchasing a Rolex from Bob's if I was looking to add to my small Rolex collection of Explorer and Date Just 1601.

  • @AAnt1993
    @AAnt1993 4 года назад +19

    Teddy, you should start your own Talking Watches series! This reminded me of that format and I think it would be awesome!

    • @TeddyBaldassarre
      @TeddyBaldassarre  4 года назад +8

      I definitely like these interview style videos. I plan on doing many more of them! Thanks for watching!

    • @AAnt1993
      @AAnt1993 4 года назад +1

      Teddy Baldassarre That would be awesome! Thanks for making great content!

  • @Halfmoon67
    @Halfmoon67 4 года назад +1

    Excellent video ! Thanks for all the efforts you put in your vids! Cheers

    • @TeddyBaldassarre
      @TeddyBaldassarre  4 года назад +1

      Happy it gets noticed! I don’t think many understand the weeks of work it takes to make something like this. All the best for 2020 my friend!

  • @dominicrusho
    @dominicrusho 3 года назад +10

    Yeah the watch is cool and everything, but what happened to the couch?!

  • @joshuacall4356
    @joshuacall4356 3 года назад

    Great review Teddy! Bob is awesome and when I bought my Datejust II the service was amazing.

  • @gloverintl
    @gloverintl 4 года назад

    I'm new to your channel. I'm newish to the watch collection thing. I'm definitely entry level. I've watched several watch channels lately, liking yours the best. thanks .

  • @shaneklesh7630
    @shaneklesh7630 4 года назад

    The videos with this guy are great! Well done Teddy!

  • @robertschmidt9584
    @robertschmidt9584 4 года назад

    A “Genta-easing” would have been a great reply! Great video and happy new year!

  • @Ricardo-uu6gl
    @Ricardo-uu6gl 4 года назад +1

    Amazing video Teddy! Great job!!

  • @DavesWatchLove
    @DavesWatchLove 4 года назад

    Teddy, you ask great questions. Great work!

  • @guylezius9775
    @guylezius9775 4 года назад

    Cheers Teddy, great vid, the couch Daytona, that’s a really cool story 👌👌

  • @momokadawi8955
    @momokadawi8955 4 года назад

    RESPECT et PERFECT selection Watches , Good Job Man !!!

  • @flippinzippo9670
    @flippinzippo9670 4 года назад +33

    Well time to start tearing the furniture apart

    • @aeroAdvocate
      @aeroAdvocate 4 года назад +3

      I just did. Found a wrapped cereal bar from 2004. #winning

  • @eyeontime6136
    @eyeontime6136 4 года назад

    Perfect interview Teddy. Thumbs up.

  • @andreaiacolina
    @andreaiacolina 4 года назад +24

    The story of this Paul Newman Daytona is so incredible and fascinating! A good investment for that lady...

    • @TeddyBaldassarre
      @TeddyBaldassarre  4 года назад +2

      She made the most of the funds too 😂

    • @surfside75
      @surfside75 4 года назад +1

      I just want to know how it got there... So fishy😁🤷

    • @murda2999
      @murda2999 4 года назад +3

      The sad part is somebody somewhere lost the family Rolex. Kind of like those shows about buying storage lockers. It can be a great day for the person that bid low on a unit, but some family lost their treasured collection of what ever because of forgetting to pay a couple of month's rent.

    • @surfside75
      @surfside75 4 года назад

      @@wincrasher2007 not at her age😬

    • @surfside75
      @surfside75 4 года назад

      @@murda2999 that's what I was thinking the entire time... Who's the original owner of that rolex?? Fishy.

  • @imranchowdhury4972
    @imranchowdhury4972 4 года назад

    This had been a much interesting discussion rather visiting the Colleccion guy. Happy New Year Teddy.

  • @utsavpaliwal99
    @utsavpaliwal99 4 года назад

    Great Vid! Bet you were tempted to title it ‘talking watches with Paul Altieri’ 😂

  • @fire_watch7735
    @fire_watch7735 4 года назад

    Great video! Watchfinder is owned by Richemont, so I'd say that's a pretty significant company making a move in the preowned market. Cheers

  • @kevorknourian5442
    @kevorknourian5442 4 года назад

    Awesome show,happy New Year

  • @seanmatley2921
    @seanmatley2921 4 года назад

    Hey Teddy, love the videos. Are you going to do any more ‘watches of’ videos? I would love to see a watches of famous writers.

  • @anthonysimeone4351
    @anthonysimeone4351 4 года назад +1

    Great job Teddy! U are fantastic at what you do

  • @antoniocaruso5927
    @antoniocaruso5927 4 года назад

    Amazing story and incredible watch...I think I would stare at it every day for at least an hour...

  • @mattfabiani7922
    @mattfabiani7922 4 года назад

    Awesome video. Glad I picked up a 16570 polar last year.

  • @Strellock
    @Strellock 4 года назад +1

    Man, if I buy a cheap couch chances are I find a mouse trap in the cushions! Latched onto my fingers! XD Great video Teddy, and what a story! Have a great 2020!

  • @michaeldgs
    @michaeldgs 4 года назад

    Awesome episode Teddy👍

  • @Saints9Fan
    @Saints9Fan 4 года назад

    Videos like these are my fav man

  • @NitroModelsAndComics
    @NitroModelsAndComics 3 года назад +2

    I ran over to my leather sofa and checked. I found a dime so I'm well on my way.

  • @Nikkonikkobaeza
    @Nikkonikkobaeza 4 года назад +3

    8:42 Teddy’s eyebrow raise 🤣

  • @finnj.h.9582
    @finnj.h.9582 4 года назад +1

    Fantastic Video, I don't usually comment but this is tremendous!

  • @peterpiper831
    @peterpiper831 3 года назад +2

    I bought a second hand couch once, and when I rummaged around the back I found a surf board.
    Obviously the previous owner was a couch-surfer.

  • @ElimRem
    @ElimRem 4 года назад

    Fun video, subscribed!

  • @ridge_r4cer
    @ridge_r4cer 4 года назад +1

    Yo, the throwback Teddy intro music 😎👌🏾

  • @kaylanwood2286
    @kaylanwood2286 4 года назад

    Hey teddy what's your opinion on Tissot? I'm thinking about getting a Bridgeport 14kt gold chronograph.

  • @damachine3
    @damachine3 4 года назад +1

    I was just in Newport Beach and wanted to stop by Bob's Watches, but they were closed. Next time! Perhaps there is a bubble (if your definition is simply quick price appreciation) but a lot of people see that definition as including a component of fragility...but I don't see it bursting. The usual movements up or down, sure. Rolex is increasing their retail prices on January 1st (tomorrow), so that takes away some of the bubble from a margin perspective regardless...and should help buffer up the grey market prices a bit. As with everything, we shall see!

  • @fourlakes
    @fourlakes 4 года назад

    Great video! And yes, I’ve bought a Rolex watch from Bob’s Watches.

  • @roger5621981
    @roger5621981 4 года назад

    I have sold several watches to bobs watches and bought 1 as well. Very smooth. Their office is pretty nice as well.

  • @msbrownbeast
    @msbrownbeast 4 года назад +2

    10:33 The Sub dial is not perfect, it has hand drag rings. Also the lume seems to be over those circular scratch rings - touched up?

  • @The_real_Mr_Ghost
    @The_real_Mr_Ghost 4 года назад +3

    nope, there is no bubble. there was even a price increase 7-10 procent from 1 January 2020. prices are going up!

  • @euskaldunakotxoan9075
    @euskaldunakotxoan9075 4 года назад

    Just subscribed, cool channel. Whats the name of the song (theme) at the beginning of the video? Thanks!

  • @ulrichk7727
    @ulrichk7727 2 года назад +1

    just checked my couch to make sure there's no PN Daytona hidden somewhere, but then realised that I bought it yesterday at IKEA. then I called my uncle who I thought was a tomato farmer to ask if he happens to have a PN Daytona he'd like to hand down to me, turns out he's actually a potato farmer. I guess it's not my kind of day. end of story!

  • @j0nnyism
    @j0nnyism 4 года назад

    Love the sub. From the days when Rolex just made very good quality tool watches. You find a lot of them owned by old servicemen in the UK

  • @stephentaylor6320
    @stephentaylor6320 4 года назад +1

    A highly enjoyable video,paul is a very interesting man,great stuff.

  • @petespurgeon7217
    @petespurgeon7217 4 года назад

    What a couch! Great story, wow. Thanx. P.S.

  • @happywanderer5632
    @happywanderer5632 4 года назад

    Hi Teddy, I want buy a quality steel bracelet chronograph and a black leather strap regulator watch. My budget for both watches is $10,000. What could you recommend? Thanks!

  • @frankrizzo7185
    @frankrizzo7185 4 года назад +5

    “A lot are unique, some are even one of a kind.” !

    • @peterpiper831
      @peterpiper831 3 года назад

      I had to laugh when he said that.

  • @lucguillemette8280
    @lucguillemette8280 4 года назад

    Great video! Your interview was phenomenal and felt super natural. My only really nit-picky critique would be that the video would look just a tad better if you used the same camera (could just be different exposure settings, but it's hard to tell) in the wide shot and head shots of you and Paul. Also I think it's a little too much of an extreme close-up shot in the headshots, but that's just my opinion.

  • @joeygreen77
    @joeygreen77 4 года назад +63

    This is "only" worth 5k. 😭

    • @TeddyBaldassarre
      @TeddyBaldassarre  4 года назад +11

      Had me feeling poor too 😂

    • @DVHEllis
      @DVHEllis 4 года назад

      @@TeddyBaldassarre Do you know the reference for that Oyster Perpetual? Would be grateful, thank you

    • @mb8kr
      @mb8kr 3 года назад

      @@DVHEllis I see where you're going to, with the ref you can find the original owner., it would be fair to return back to him, I wouldn't wear someone else watch especially expensive one. Found object should be traced and returned.

  • @manning8
    @manning8 4 года назад

    Great video!

  • @jorgklatt396
    @jorgklatt396 4 года назад +2

    Bob‘s watches: We got a lot of Subs
    Teddy: I got a lot of subs with Subs

  • @dereks66
    @dereks66 4 года назад +2

    Did that Paul Newman Daytona come with Box and Papers?

  • @SwissWatchGang
    @SwissWatchGang 4 года назад +1

    Awesome Teddy👍👍 more please 😁

  • @rk702
    @rk702 4 года назад

    Teddy... "Only time will tell." lol

  • @onlyqualitystuff2018
    @onlyqualitystuff2018 3 года назад

    Which one reference has the watch after 5512? (gold submariner)

  • @Preachingthechoirnow
    @Preachingthechoirnow 4 года назад

    How much would you pay for a Daytona Sillver tone with black dial?

  • @jamesgoulding2001
    @jamesgoulding2001 4 года назад +1

    Whats the best buy out of airking, oyster perpetual or datejust?
    A sub.
    Ok but what about the not so obvious lines, whats a great piece that is under the radar?
    A GMT.
    Really great under the radar pics! 😂

  • @SoCalWatchReviews
    @SoCalWatchReviews 4 года назад

    Great video! Next have Paul go over Omega!

  • @BeckVMH
    @BeckVMH 3 года назад +1

    Interesting conversation. Ref the Daytona, Bob’s Watches has specialized in preowned Rolex and other luxury watches since the mid-90s. This women’s call wasn’t their first of like or similar circumstances. While they’re objective is to make a profit, it’s safe to assume they exercise due diligence to avoid being complicit in the sale of a suspect watch, regardless of value.

  • @TimG--
    @TimG-- 4 года назад +2

    Nice video mate

  • @quentonlennon7233
    @quentonlennon7233 4 года назад

    This was great

  • @complicatedtime
    @complicatedtime 4 года назад

    Wow. What a pro channel. The content. The photography/lighting and sound! This is not a “modest RUclipsr” channel.... side note: I have bought and sold watches with Bob’s. Good people. Easy transaction to buy and especially sell. I sold a 1995 X-Serial Submariner to Bob’s and the transaction was seamless and easy!!

  • @michaeldgs
    @michaeldgs 4 года назад

    Watches that will go up: the 16800 yes, but also the GMT 16700, and the Oysterquartz 17000 - thank me in a few years 😜

  • @bjornapyro
    @bjornapyro 4 года назад

    Nobody sees a correction coming. It’s absolute euphoria at the end. Crown guards? Hopefully everybody’s buying out of love for the watches.

  • @StuntpilootStef
    @StuntpilootStef 4 года назад +2

    If I found a Paul Newman, you'd have to pry it from my cold, dead wrist.

  • @treyhuie
    @treyhuie 4 года назад

    Teddy, where is your shirt from? Odd question for this video but it caught my eye

  • @Dave062YT
    @Dave062YT 4 года назад +1

    If the original couch Daytona owner sees this and still has the paperwork serial numbers etc ,cant they claim it back ?

  • @zeroelus
    @zeroelus 4 года назад +5

    I didn’t remember we had tomato crops near Mexico City. The state most famous for crops like tomato is the state of Sinaloa, not like the name is famous or anything haha.
    As a Mexican web developer with an Orient Mako 2, I think I need to switch career paths.

    • @JorgeGee713
      @JorgeGee713 4 года назад

      You should dislike the negative connotations and insinuating they made since he's a Mexican farmer therefore growing something else. A bit racist in my opinion.

    • @ak1920
      @ak1920 4 года назад

      The mako 2 is an awesome watch

    • @zeroelus
      @zeroelus 4 года назад

      AK1920 thanks, I was looking to get a Mako 3/Kamasu but they where too expensive for my liking and I found a Christmas sale on Amazon for the Mako 2 and it was about 140 USD taxes and everything. I’m very pleased with the watch I got for the money paid.

    • @ak1920
      @ak1920 4 года назад

      @@zeroelus that's a really good deal..screw down crown, 120 click bezel, screw case back, etc. I also own a black dial mako 2 I prefer it over the 3. It is the 2nd orient watch I have, I also have an orient symphony. You really cant beat them for the price. Take care

    • @augustinf
      @augustinf 4 года назад

      Jay G totally agree with you there. I live in southern Spain, my dad used to sell tomatoe and other seeds to local farmers with huge glasshouse cultures, these guys were filthy rich. Mexico is a huge tomatoe producer and exports tons of tons of tomatoes to the US, people with huge properties are easily multi millionnaires, and have a honnest business (they might be guilty of not declaring all their workers or income to the local IRS and have to sell a dozen rolex when they get caught though)

  • @atticus6572
    @atticus6572 4 года назад +1

    Hey Teddy, could you may a comprehensive video on the Submariner references? Perhaps including Tudor's versions as well. A lot were mentioned here, and the audience is expected to know the context

    • @TeddyBaldassarre
      @TeddyBaldassarre  4 года назад

      Yes! That could be fun! Love those old Tudor subs. Thanks for watching my friend.

    • @theJade
      @theJade 4 года назад

      Theres a pretty good Hodinkee video and article covering all thing Rolex sub. A Tudor reference point would be amazing.

  • @johnwayne2103
    @johnwayne2103 4 года назад +1

    Huh? Somebody out there has the original box and papers and I would not have put it past them that they have reported it missing.

  • @russellranger5637
    @russellranger5637 4 года назад +1

    I’d keep it! Enjoy it, and have fun telling the story...😎👍

  • @dlterm
    @dlterm 4 года назад +1

    I called Bob's with a rare Rolex GMT Master and they would not even look at it unless I paid them $300 (+or-) for an appraisal! (Refundable if I sell them the watch at whatever the hell their offer might be.) I told them I had a pretty good idea of what the value was (I had offers from several other major players) and since I'm OC local, I'll drop by and show them the watch in person...no appraisal needed and if they want to make an offer, I'll be glad to entertain. "We'd love to see it", they said, but I still had to pay them the $300. Crazy.

    • @tomt5698
      @tomt5698 4 года назад

      What did they offer you? They offered me DIK for a two tone Datejust.

    • @dlterm
      @dlterm 4 года назад +1

      @@tomt5698 They wouldn't make an offer until I agreed to pay them for an appraisal...and I would not agree to pay them anything. I had offers from Hodinkee, a commitment for a Geveva auction spot from Phillips, and two other solid offers for the watch. All between 20 and 30K.

  • @ernestkrajnc6412
    @ernestkrajnc6412 4 года назад

    Very well done! But, is there ONLY Rolex or what?

  • @timdebacker4785
    @timdebacker4785 4 года назад

    Don't think the quare crown guards were the problem on why it was so hard to set the date ;)

  • @menaseven9093
    @menaseven9093 4 года назад

    Nice Rolex Paul Newman and nice Rolex Submariner gold, It is amazing that a Rolex Paul Newman cost $250,000.

  • @thewatchguyinc.7429
    @thewatchguyinc.7429 4 года назад +9

    I would start by servicing it without touching the patina, then i would use it for about a month and take as many selfies possible and then will sell it and purchase all the watches on my list.

    • @TeddyBaldassarre
      @TeddyBaldassarre  4 года назад +1

      Haha I would sell too, Larry. Thanks for watching!

    • @thewatchguyinc.7429
      @thewatchguyinc.7429 4 года назад

      Teddy Baldassarre you really looked like you wanted that panda lol it showed on your face buddy !

  • @anthonyhauser3467
    @anthonyhauser3467 4 года назад

    Can we hear an opinion on Armitron watches?

  • @xaviermcquiston1604
    @xaviermcquiston1604 4 года назад

    That is incredible

  • @martingravely2534
    @martingravely2534 4 года назад

    I like the lighting

  • @asparceproton1
    @asparceproton1 4 года назад

    That 6264 is the one

  • @jeanraspail2979
    @jeanraspail2979 4 года назад +2

    The guy who sold the couch disliked the video

  • @timothyacowin9761
    @timothyacowin9761 4 года назад

    The most beautiful watch ever made

  • @Mezbaul_Skywalker_Alam
    @Mezbaul_Skywalker_Alam 4 года назад +5

    I would use it for 6 months, take great photos of it, sell it and get every other watches available! xD

    • @retardno002
      @retardno002 4 года назад +1

      Sell that Rolex and buy the full Sinn and Fortis line of watches.

    • @Touyoujin
      @Touyoujin 4 года назад

      Ugly flipper