£9,000 Rolex Daytona vs £250,000 Paul Newman | Watchfinder & Co.
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- If you want a chronograph from Rolex’s stable, you can part ways with about £10,000 and get yourself the latest and greatest ceramic 116500LN-or you could pay a quarter of a million for one of these instead: the ‘Paul Newman’ 6263. How can it be worth 25 times more?
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In summary, the Rolex Daytona is popular because some lady, who was informed about watches, bought one for her husband because they were on clearance sale. Such was her regard for the watch, that she engraved a passive aggressive message on it before handing it over. Lo and behold, and no thanks to the actual merit of the watch, that man happened to be Paul Newman. And to this day the Rolex Daytona enjoys unearned prominence.
I couldn't agree more with WF&Co.'s assessment.
Spot on ol' chap.
with voice and vocab like him, he can convince anyone with anything
Well, the Daytona became a famous watch around the 90's, when they were using zenith's movements. Then every version became even more famous, and for that reason people started looking for vintage versions of the watch. So, actually, the merit behind that fame is of the watch, but not this particular model! PS. I love them all!
@@lorenzo4119 An El Primero powered Daytona would be worth the price of entry.
Its the way of the world...on the opposite side of that is the Vacheron Constantin overseas which comes from an aristocratic family yet cannot sell to save its own life...
I wish I could get the New Daytona for £9k..I have been quoted minimum of 7 years wait...unless I want to pay double retail....
Steve Rushaw yeah man. That's fucked up
Steve Rushaw I was quoted 5 years lol it’s a shame
Takes one year to make. 5 years to deliver. Sounds like a loan to finance operations to me.
I am on a 1y waiting list, Hopefully! The only Rolex i really really respect.
i got lucky two weeks back! took a watch in for repair and a 2018 daytona bi-metal (not everyone's cuppa)was going into the pre-owned case at my local Rolex dealer. it was registered in feb. the owner had done a part x on a new gold version. was a snip at £10650,00 imo and it still had inside strap covers on too. my Mrs was not too happy as she said on entry no buying lol..
That ending line is perfect "Omega got the moon, but Rolex got the world." Dear God I love these videos.
Omega got the moon but Rolex got the world... EPIC...!
Epic....fail? I find it hard to prove it with facts and not just a 'guts feeling'. Besides personal preferences, arguably the Speedmaster Pro is in more wrists than the Daytonas. Don't get me wrong, both chronographs are gorgeous and carry lots of History. But let's be honest and put our fanboy feelings behind
@@aromaticsnail I get your point but as far as I perceive this statement, Rolex got the market share which is the ultimate desire of any company... I m not in an argument of which brand is better or rather more technologically advanced. If that is the criteria then no other company, beside the holy trinity, can hold a candle against A. Lange & Söhne...!!
nualdifa modern day omega can only dream of Rolex’s business model.. it’s not a gut feeling it’s simply fact.. omega has to invent a new limited edition speedy every month to push a few more sales and regularly offloads old stock it can’t sell to the grey market.. Rolex uses the same design it has forever and can sell more that it can produce, with waiting lists now closed or running into tens of years..
nualdifa Rolex is one of the 100 most influential brands in the world. Omega probably not in the top 6000.
@@nickgoode3062 sure, but can you actually know how many watches Rolex sells? As far as I know, the foundation doesn't publish figures. And if you want to talk about "using the same design" compare a 50's pre-moonwatch and a 2018 counterpart. True, Omega milks their moonwatch cow as much as they can. But Rolex is on purpose limiting production to give the illusion of high demand....nothing new...very similar to the diamond industry. But that doesn't change the fact that both are great watches. I just don't agree that there are facts that prove a Daytona is superior to a Speedmaster Professional. As facts, we can use COSC v. METAS certification, as the tests are based on well-established criteria that is comparable.
The dial on the Paul Newman' Daytona looks like paper, doesn't it? 😂😂
The Paul Newman has beautiful negative space. The eyes can rest (and bathe, if you will) whilst taking in the features that become highlighted as a result. It’s the combination of having the subdials AND the negative space that is so appealing. There’s a tremendous confidence in a watch that doesn’t have to cram the dial’s real estate, selling it to the viewer in every square millimetre... even if that is a retrospective explanation for its popularity, in addition to its celebrity association, I think that is why the watch appeals to haute horologists today.
It’s why I like it in any case!
MrAristaeus Jesus just say you like the piece lol
Can'tHave2MuchHP “Troll carefully, Me”
MrAristaeus Wovhsk handbell aided w a meme. S nene
The only one that thing I can think is a guy that has to be with you a few times a week and he will be able for you a few days and he’s going out with a few more people and he wants a new one to be a big deal
The negative space is exactly proportional to the rolex.
Paul Newman ,so what?? With 250.000 i can get Pateks,Lange,AP,Vacheron,Breguet.Plus pocket money to go on holidays.
If one got 250 large to use on watches, it's quite possible that they already got watches from your list in their box. 'Ordinary people' do not save up to buy one luxury item, like a watch or another form of art.
@@mariuspettersen-no Exactly, you don't "save up" to buy a watch at auction, you turn up with a million dollars set aside and you compete to see which global conglomerate head, silicone valley sociopath or third world dictator in the room has the least sense.
@@Munkenba lololol precisely
@Roland To each, his own my friend. To each, his own
But the Paul Newman will let you keep or possibly even gain money
The new Daytonas with the ceramic bezel are going for way more than 10,000
I would gladly pay 10k pounds for a ceramic daytona.....
I would gladly pay 20k for it! :D
That last line just shows you have a great writer on your team. Well done.
The way you tell the story of a watch is absolutely beautiful. Like nothing else
Although the old one looks like it has a great story to tell
But the attention to detail on the new one is just mind-blowing. I'm new to the channel and I really feel like I understand why rolexes cost so much. They are impeccable
You have some seriously talented writers on staff. Really pays off.
Awesome video as always. Best watch RUclips channel by far!
The Paul Newman is such a fantastic timeless beauty. I can't believe it's 60 years old!
The size of the brand didn't have anything to do with NASA's selection of the Speedmaster. A NASA employee drove across town to a watch shop, bought a ton of watches, including Rolex, subjected them to a series tests, and selected the watch that came out the other side in best shape. That was the Speedmaster, with other watches destroyed beyond function. Omega was subsequently notified and obviously pleasantly surprised. The rest is history.
Hey guys - another excellent review/comparison, as always. I love that you refrain from things like numerical scores and outright judgements, instead letting the watches, their historical or aesthetic contexts, and interesting features speak for themselves and thus letting us judge them on their own merits. It's how reviews should be done, I think; after all, your experience of a given product might differ considerably from my own, and it's almost a certainty that our tastes won't run exactly parallel. Put it this way: there's a reason why I come to you guys first any time I want to learn more about a given piece.
So, with that in mind, I have a request. I know that the watches you showcase are limited by your inventory, and that harder-to-come-by brands probably don't make it across your workbench(es) very often, but recently I've developed a fascination with automatic watches that have cartwheel-style rotors. For example, the Grand Seiko SBGJ021 Limited Edition (link below). In searching for other watches with similar adornments, I came across Speake-Marin, and fell instantly in love with their designs. So, if you ever happen to get one in, I would be beyond thrilled to see your take on it. Also, just a thought, a video showcasing automatic watches with unique/interesting rotor designs. I realise that it's perhaps a little too narrow of a focus, but just a thought. Thanks again, as ever, for another beautifully shot and produced video; keep 'em coming!
GS SBGJ021: imgur.com/a/LYZgv#d3zJECC
Please review Celestial Astronomical Grand Complication 3600 by Vacheron Constantin!
My brother bought a submariner about twenty years ago.....they never appealed to me because I always found them too 'agricultural' in aesthetics.......but that Rolex Daytona is very appealing....just need to update the price a little or a lot, depending on which Daytona you want
The more I like my Speedy!
Please do a Zenith movement Daytona! I just bought one and would love to see a video on it as your cinematic shots are amazing!!
thats a bit cheeky, 9k??. you're mark up on the LN is pretty high
Amazing video as always! By far one of the best productions on close-up watch videography + factual information to boot. As a hobbyist photographer, I'm very curious as to how you get so close to the watches. Any chance you can share a tip or two? :)
Please do a video or better still a series of videos on the jlc tribute collection and include the original watches the newer versions are based on detailing the improvements/increased relevance of the tribute collection. Thanks
6:05 is that Pentax KM? I used to have on. Unbreakable and good quality photos.
Love the pn Daytona, I don't know if I'd pay 250k for this particular example, case and dial is nice but I noticed the lume plots are crumbling, common problem with many vintage Daytonas due to such small lume plots being used.
What puzzles me is that the 6263 shown here has a 2-liner dial no “oyster” with the red daytona but it’s in an oyster case with screw-down pushers. Am I missing something here?
Is that a service dial on the Paul Newman? Like you said, the originals did Not Have the red daytona lettering Above the 6 o‘clock subdial
How much is the watch on the right worth now?
Fantastic video that explains that originally the ‘Daytona’ was meant to go to the Moon and maybe beyond - hence the name ‘Cosmograph’ as in Cosmology - the study of the origins and evolution of the Universe.
Too bad it was a failure. Ugly watch (new and old) to boot. No Thanks.
Daytona just never did it for me...great video as always my friend!
Madness, appreciate the videos mate helps those such as myself put a different perspective on these watches, respect.
I'm a simple worker . I was saving my money for one year because I want to buy a Rolex watches . This is my wish
Areva J.J have you saved up enough money yet ?
Exceptionally well written video. I had so much fun listening to this true underdog story!
Great video! I'll take a moon watch over these any day of the week. Dayton is a great watch though
2:36 Mercury astronaut Walter Schirra also owned a Rolex Daytona 6240 and a Rolex Daytona 6263 was worn onboard space shuttle Atlantis STS-34 by astronaut Michael McCulley
#MoonwatchUniverse
Even though I’m a big fan of Newman (as an actor, racer, human being) I just don’t feel the price disparity justified. Either way, both gorgeous models.
His actual watch sold for nearly $20m with buyer's premium... so an even bigger premium 😳
Captivating story telling! Kudos!
Will you please review a Rolex day date?
It must have been so great to be able to walk into a watch shop back in the day and only see 35-37mm watches.
At age 74, I did exactly that every time I entered a jewelry store - for years. Truth be told, I, and everyone I ever knew, never gave it a second thought. It was simply the way watches were sized, and had been sized, for decades. The Rolex Datejust (36mm,) that I purchased new in 1970, was often described as a bit "chunky looking" - can you imagine? Regards !!
Can anyone pls provide the background music info pls🙏🙏🙏🙏
Amazing video! It’s hard to give honest facts without sounding disrespectful but Watchfinder always seems to get the balance right.
Vintage is so much more beautiful. We don't just buy with our brains tho, the heart always has a say.
Can you review tag heuer carrera day/date calibre 5...thanks
Thanks for the great content and this inside view. Keep it coming in 2019. HNY chaps!
Heck with paul newman. He doesn't my bills. 9k Daytona looks great
I’m new to watch collections. It seems that Paul Newman and Steve McQueen have the most notorious ‘signature watch.’ Are there any signature watches from the past 20 years like these? I’m not talking about watches associated with people, eg. Jack Nicklaus’s daydate, I mean an actual signature watch.
Did you drop a 1 as in £10000 off the 116500LN? Only £9000 for a Daytona? At least not on your site. I don't have the money, but I'm happy to buy it for 9K and sell you right back😁 Great video!
Is that camera a Pentax K1000?
Can you please Review the Bulova precisionist? It has an interesting movement, and your narration on that watch would be Godsend.
He'll review the precisionist right after his MVMT review lol. Maybe an old Bulova Accutron Tuning Fork.... but why even mention a freakin' Precisionist????
Chris mainly due to the movement. It’s interesting. Sure it looks hunky, but the movement is nice. The bulova moonwatch is also worth reviewing due to the history it has.
Loved it - Omega May have got the Moon; but Rolex got the World....!!!
I wouldn't spend £1,700 on the Paul Newman, let alone $17 million. Because it is down right ugly. The new Ceramic LN Daytona is a beauty, both in the white and black dial versions.
Don't drop that Paul Newman...
£9,000 for a new Daytona?! Find me one and I'll give you 10...
Some time certain thing just don't make any sense 20 million dollars
The buyer didn't pay 20 million for a watch. He paid that amount for bragging rights. The watch was only the means to that end
Should’nt the two-line Paul Newman dial put into the non oyster case?🤔
Thanks for the video. I'm guessing that it wasn't Joanne Woodward's intention to advertise. I truly wish Rolex wouldn't write so much on their dials.
£9,000? More like £18,000. I mean, I know it's much cheaper at the AD. But good luck getting one at the AD without waiting a few years. I settled for Tudor Black Bay Chronograph.
@ 4:39 The underside of the second hand looks unfinished.
Hyped up Paul Newman- a marketing strategy from Rolex. The money 💰 can be spent on much better haute horlogerie brands.
Bravo guys! These films are great.
Owning a Rolex Daytona is about having good taste; class and style and a knowledge and appreciation of exquisite Engineering.
Uhm you would own a A. Lange not a Rolex....
You do such great videos...!✅👍
Nice video mate
The Rolex 6263 PN Daytona doesn't have 'Daytona' written on the dial (except for the black 6263 RCO dials). So the one in the video can't be a 100% legit 6263 PN Daytona...
How the hell is 37mm “tiny”? I maintain that 36mm is a perfectly fine size for a men’s watch.
Please find the Philippe Dufour watch and make macro. It will be most interesting of all watches.
If you want to watch this older watchfinder videos, you have to set the speed to 0.75 😄
£9k?! You are selling it for £19,250 on your website
Okay, so like has no one noticed that dial doesn’t go with those pushers.....6263 is oyster...that dial is not
I just don't get it, Paul Newman wasn't Steve McQueen or Buzz Aldrin...
Next time please also add the £50 Parnis Daytona to the comparison.
Meh...my Daytona is in the box today and I am wearing my Seiko Sumo. Could not be happier with both!
Intresting how a copy (Rolex) of something remarkable (speedmaster), now outshines the original.
2:15 unbelievable!!
How did that paul newman dial got that deep scratch under the second counter disc 😯. Must have been serviced by some casio watchmaker
„It has everything!“
except a date
I heard a similar story about Paul Newman’s Rolex, but it wasn’t told as eloquently and thoroughly! Please read me a bedtime story?
lol thanks
As long as you love your watch with all your heart and mind....thats it....enjoy happiness!!!!
I love the speedy to much to betray it haha
Yup. Speedy > Daytona all day everyday. This coming from a guy that owns two steel Sports Rolex. The Daytona is just ugly and has zero soul. A copycat design from a Brand that otherwise sets the standard in design (DJ, Sub, GMT, etc.)
Please name of the music
Get a Steinhart and get a very good option of Paul Newman homage. Rolex's new Daytona is a big chunk lacking of that tool watch they used to have. It pretends to be a luxury watch and those polished surfaces make it scratchable.
I want the new design but with legibility and size of old one "small wrist club"
Because it isn't. The new watch looks just as good, will be more accurate and for the change you can buy a flat, a car, travel the world and.....you get the drift. Vintage cars I can appreciate as they look different but to a non watch enthusiast it is just another Daytona.
Great post! You are number one certanly
Sorry, you haven't sold it to me. The newer Daytona is much better looking than the historic version. The rest is pretentious. Then again I don't have the cash to buy it so it's moot.
Hang about, the new one is better looking? Eh...
I never really liked Daytonas until I saw the older ones. I think the older ones are far better looking...
I really don't like the new Daytonas. Too shiny and matte. Not enough sharp edges and WAY too much text on the dial.
I prefer the new Daytona. The vintage one looks nice, but I still can't understand why people place such a high value to it. One thing I would like to see different in the new Daytona is solid chrono sub dials and not just the dark ring. The three rings give the dial a busier look than is necessary.
Jsuarez6 Agreed. Have you checked out the Gevril Tribeca? Not quite Rolex. But I think it’s the second best thing to the Paul Newman Daytona.
Can you do seiko 5?
£9K? Yeah right. I bet you I can't go out tomorrow and get a SS ceramic Daytona for £9K.
bigpops74 disregarding when you can buy one.. that is still the price.
You are a big big pile of poop
The 6263 was my holy grail even before I knew the horological relevance and its price. It simply looks awesome. Clean for a chrono, all measurements fit together. Designwise, this is the upper class of what watches really can offer. Sadly, pricewise this one is upper class too
The Daytona has "everything".
Everything as in, the time, and no date, and a chronometer that's pretty much useless today. A GMT is miles more useful in every way.
I was wearing my $25 Chinese automatic skeleton watch today. :'D
Absolutely impeccable. Pure class. Brings tears to my eyes
Joseph Yi Wuhan virus
It was featured in a small scene in 'Crazy Rich Asians'. It's early in the film where Astrid gives her husband Michael the watch. It's unclear from the articles I read if it was the actual Paul Newman Daytona or another vintage Daytona from that era. Either way the fictional character could afford to pay for the Paul Newman.
I’ve been waiting for this video yay
Well done !
Could have made economic sense for rolex to pay a ridiculous price for paul newmans
Great plain panda dial simply beautiful only Rolex that compares with Omegle Nasa knows a thing or two
9000? where? il take 10 please. The irony is because the Daytona wasnt selling the production numbers where so low for so long and that scarcity today gives it its value
the notion that you can get a new daytona for retail is a fucking joke. most rolex dealers wont even call when they get one unless you spend over 100k per year on rolex's.
It sold for 20 million dollars because that is what someone was willing to pay for it due to less supply and more demands but certainly the £9k Daytona is more superior like a rabbit is to a rat. We live in an era of excessive wealth where the rich are using all sort of medium to store wealth such as wine, cars, arts, watches, along with other conventional assets. The £9k Daytona is a realistic proposition.