Dr Hallowell On ADHD and Adults (Part 1)
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2024
- In this video, I explore why it's not uncommon for high achieving adults who have ADHD, who may or may not know it, not to get help. A lot of people think that if you're doing well in life, like Bubba Watson, or other successful people with ADHD, you don't need help. As a child and adult psychiatrist and someone with ADHD, I know firsthand that adults with ADHD who are diagnosed and treated live a much better life than those who aren't. ADHD does not have to keep you from achieving your dreams. When managed right, ADHD can take you to the very top. When managed incorrectly, it can lead you down a terrible path. That's what makes ADHD so interesting. It can make you or it can break you. Find out why getting the proper help can make the difference.
In Part 2, which will be released on Thursday, I'll discuss the steps towards making an ADHD Diagnosis and the kinds of help available for adults.
Interested in learning more about Adult ADHD, go to: www.drhallowell.com
Being creative doesn’t feel so much like a gift when I am unable to make a living from my creativity no matter how talented I am told I am. It’s an exhausting daily struggle.
Oh my freakin’ God! I actually questioned if your post WAS MY POST -Starving-life-long- piano player.
I totally agree with you on this 💯‼️
I had a psychologist tell me that I couldn’t go to a very competitive law school. That I would struggle being a lawyer because it’s so opposite to what ADHD is. What he didn’t see was my high IQ, type A personality, driven and stubborn ways, and how I became a paralegal with no diagnosis, medicine, or past experience. I will succeed. And adderall only built upon that.
Love it! Yes, you will succeed!
Alyson, I just interviewed an ADHD Lawyer on how she did to go through law school etc. I will put that interview in my channel this week if you want to watch it :)
That psychologist was wrong.
Alyson Ryan - I was diagnosed during my Master’s program, it was the best thing in the world. I was finally able to focus. It took me a long time to get through my undergrad program. My dean in High School i wouldn’t make it through college, I’m glad I didn’t listen to him.
Alyson Ryan - by the way, congratulations on your accomplishments
I was told by my psychiatrist (who had treated me semi-successfully for another condition and given me the 'all clear' -you are no longer ill talk) that I could NOT possibly have ADHD because I was 'too high functioning' (no job, terrible self esteem, bad insomnia, wondering if I had dementia because of forgetfulness, absolutely unable to relax, can't focus until the deadline, can't start long tasks but somehow cycling through hobbies with hyperfocus, and overly talkative yet can't really explain things without my mind getting jumbled). I pushed back and said I am absolutely not high functioning, and then she instead said my symptoms were better explained by my overly emotional personality... You know, the thing she just told me I was cured of, and which I did no longer meet the criteria for.
It was the most jaw dropping, confusing and disappointing conversation I've ever had with a medical professional. But, trying to be a good girl, I listened and tried to forget about my suspicion of ADHD.
Until my husband and GP both told be to go to a private ADHD psych and get evaluated because they believe I have it. So I'm going in a couple of days. Terrified I'll be shut down and told I'm doing great like the last time. 😵
I love having ADHD. I was lucky to work in a very creative, fast paced career for many years. It was the perfect fit for my kind of brain. I was successful and happy. It wasn’t until I retired that I realized how challenging ADHD can be if I get bored and my days get monotonous.
I tried to talk to my aunt about me having adhd, despite me not being technically diagnosed (though I have been diagnosed with autism and that same psychologist suspected adhd too, but she focused on the autism part because it was affecting my life more) and she basically told me that there's no way I have adhd. I do too well in school and in life to possibly have it.
My response was "Why, because I pay attention to things? It's a common misconception. It's not so much that those with adhd cannot focus on anything. Oh, no, they can focus. Sometimes, way too much on something that they should've focused less on. It's more...everything can gain their focus, too easily."
And ...unfortunately for me, I don't do well with impromptu debates, or any debates, so I couldn't come with evidence for my case. The reality is: my focus on detail comes thanks to my autism, but the rest is probably adhd. My attention is varied. I can hyperfocus on a project for hrs , and be annoyed that I should stop to walk the dog, feed myself , etc. Or I could think "I want to play games, start a new coding project for fun, and...." , but then only get to the games , forget what my project idea was, and so on.
Anyone else with adhd relate to the idea of...having lots of time because it's , say, Spring Break, and suddenly you're like "well...I can do whatever now! Ok...so...what to do? Uh. ..." and then you just ..have trouble deciding? That's me. I feel like I can't decide anything without talking it out with someone first.
This comment will probably go unnoticed, but that's fine. I'm just impulsively sharing my thoughts, regardless of the social consequences lol
I am right there with you bud. The facility I went to won't even want to evaluate. And diagnosed me based off of a questionnaire. A questionnaire is a tool. With context they would have clearly see I don't match their diagnosis.
I am an immigrant i got my PhD without knowing that i have Adhd, i thought iam just lazy because i have hard time to complete tasks in time ( because i had started many one, craving for new things.
I was diagnosed at the age of 27 in the 4th year of my PhD studying molecular neuroscience. When my pdoc started me on stim medication, it revolutionized my life. I thought I was just doomed to be broken and that I couldn't have my career and a live my life like my peers. It was such a humbling experience. A few years later, I still tear up when I think about how I could actually HEAR people's thoughts and connect with them in organized conversation. Treating my ADHD gave me people. For the first time in my life, I no longer felt alone. I now have a real relationship with my parents, and I believe I am capable of a long-term relationship now. Not to forget how my sleep, physical health, and daily life has improved so much.
On the smaller end-Man! I'll never take being able to find my things I need when I need them for granted! I thought I was doomed to never know where my keys, wallet, other shoe, etc... were! This will all be invaluable to my future as a scientist and human!
This is exactly why I, as a female and college graduate, got diagnosed in adulthood (age 23). People will literally say “but you’re too smart to have adhd.” UGH. This is exactly how i gently educate people. By telling them i do not see it as a “disorder” does not always resonate with them. It’s really unfortunate how much it is stigmatized even with science and data to back up what ADHD is and what it is not.
Thank you Dr.H for being a trailblazer of this condition! Your book driven to distraction has changed my perspective and for the first time i have confidence in myself
Thank you Taylor and I know you will agree, getting the diagnosis and treatment can propel you to a new chapter you only dreamt of before. Wishing you only the best, Ned
I also have dyslexia but I hate it when people say you're too smart to have ADHD and dyslexia.
Good to hear that you graduated. It took me 8 years to finally graduate a 2 year community college degree, due to not being able to comprehend and putting it off. This was 7 years ago. Finally got diagnosed this year at 37, I’m happy I am but am very scared because of having to play catch-up to all my peers and family. I wish I had a group or someone I could talk to about this, any recommendations?
This is such a positive way to talk about ADHD. I truly appreciate this. It's how my therapists talk about it as well. Only been recently diagnosed, just turned 50 today and lo and behold - I am a psychiatrist myself and totally didn't realize I had it until I hit a brick wall. Had the hardest time finding out what it was and when we did get it right - my world literally changed. I don't have to struggle and fight with myself so much anymore. Things have become clearer and have been put in perspective.
It's as if no one understands me most than this Dr. All my symptoms are on their book, Delivered from Distruction. I hope we have a dr. Like you here in the Philippines.
Thank you for your positive attitude. I have had my LiCSW since 1999 but I am currently getting my ADHD-CCSP and part of the training is like 6 hrs with Dr R Barkley. I have been listening for the past hour and i needed to find your words as I am so disillusioned by how he just makes ASHD into a negative pathological disorder without any mention of outlook with meds or even strengths. I get that especially males with untreated ADHD who also have addictions and high risk taking etc. do have a truly rough road to go on. But I thought in 2021 we had a better idea of the fact that a lot of the research was done on little boys not on females and people who are intelligent who have ADHD and who have masters degrees and who have some success in a marriage or have productive kids. But who still struggle every day with the little stuff. daily.
If we live in a mindset that we are all in a bad place, how will we find our gifts. Keep up your terrific work!
I instantly hyper focused when you said Bubba! I’m a golfer and agree with what you say entirely.
For me medication helped me enormously.
I’m currently on the way to creating my own successful business. If I hadn’t been diagnosed at 35 (by me pushing for it) I honestly feel like I would have the best ideas and drive ever.. but living in a ditch
Thanks Dr Hallowell, I'm reading Delivered from Distraction now, and it is changing my whole view on myself and my life. I always felt that dichotomy of high power and low control. Your Ferrari engine and bicycle brakes analogy is incredibly helpful for explaining this to loved ones who care, but don't understand. And even for me to understand it better myself.
Thank you, and God bless you and your work!
Wish Dr Ed was here in NZ, I love this energy
Thanks Doctor! I'm the one having been struggling with my ever-distracting attention. Currently living in South Korea, here the awareness on this 'trait/disorder' has improved for years though it seems it has long way to go yet - lack of diagnosing system, high costs, etc.... i got guts from Jessica's video and surfed through your account. Please upload far more videos, it helped a lot!
~excusing my incoherent English usage~ Sincerely, Eunho
Ow and Ned’s book “crazy stupid busy” REALLY helped me a lot.
Also, great timing with the text message 👍🏼
Also also, digging the new hair do Dr Ned
I get lots of feedback, but rarely on my hair. :)
Holy cow, this is how I've always described my brain. Except, I have a jet engine for a brain but the will of a hobo. Medicated now, hoping to unlock my full potential soon.
Super interesting! Just discovered this at 56…and indeed for many years at the top of my game (albeit, with far more effort than my peers!). But NYC burnout (and meno!) hit and it was just enough to knock me to the other side of it and now it’s like pulling teeth to try and get some semblance of work back into my life :( . So this resonates greatly.
I'm 60, had a neuropsych test last week. I've had a good life and I'm not regretting not getting diagnosed till now, but YES PLEASE if it makes life easier in a few important ways. Best of luck to you.
I’m your age and recently diagnosed too. Similar story too. Top of game in a high stress, high stakes career until I burned out. Once I stepped away from the career almost nothing inspires me because there are no deadlines, there’s no real pressure. I guess I needed that.
I'd recommend buying a levalier mic for the next episode x
I can't stand this curse of ADHD. I get mocked at work because of my accommodation, I get pulled into HR for using FMLA time to get over a frustration I was having, I just never fit in. ADHD is a curse.
Ignore the ignorant mokers..The best answer is to focus on your objective & achieve..You have the right for accommodation. IT'S YOUR RIGHT..WITH NO SHAME..IT'S YOUR RIGHT..I WISH I HAVE THIS ACCOMODATION IN CANADA
I am so happy I found you on RUclips. I have ADHD and I got PTSD from my everything doctor last April. I went into her 10 yrs ago to help w my ADHD. She didn't believe me. I've gone to 5 different doctors to get help and get the proper dosage. They have made the PTSD worse. Now I can't even talk properly in a doctors office. I don't know what to do anymore. Do u have any ideas? I'm struggling every day to live.
Finally found a doctor to help w ADHD and medication. It's really helping me stay here and now, also not forgetting about what I'm doing. The mind is a horrible thing to waste. I can't believe a doctor could just walk away from someone who has these disorders. I've been so sad and frustrated. Thank u
Sorry for my late response... I'd love to know how you're doing now?
Doc you are knowledgeable of adhd clearly. Hears what makes no sense. Im 30. Severe adhd. Obviously no money. Live close by. Would love to speak to you. I called the office. I won’t say anything besides how could i possibly pay that?
Great video! Thank you Dr Ned!
Dr. Hallowell,
Thank you for posting these very educational and helpful videos, I enjoy watching and learning from them.
Question: If an adult is very successful that means he/she has learned a way to deal with ADHD symptoms thus far, why is it important to get the diagnosis of ADHD if the adult suspects of having it?
If you suspect you have it, by all means do what works... the structures and treatments that work for someone with AHD will work for everyone... minus medication. Thanks for the question. Did I answer it?
It is real hard to focus on this video even it is important for me but i think fish should not try to walk just try to somehow manage it
I've had this all my life and never been able to find any help for it. Most say I'm depressed which isn't far from the truth. But I've drifted from job to job my entire working life and desperately looking for but never found any. Getting my back injured may have been the best part of life, which is sad to say. It would be great to find a coach that could help me find out how to make some accomplishments now that I'm on social security
you should adjust the camera but the talk is great.
I experienced going to therapy going through divorce and then later used against me when applying for life insurance as a big negative that I needed help and was rejected bc I had gotten help. . 😮😢
I wish I could just have him as my doc.
I’m currently trying to tell if I have adhd or just phone addiction
Dr Hallowell, you heard of the da vinci method, written by garrett loporto? It also takes the position of strength in the matter. Using eagle born and raised in chicken coop analogy.
Lots of useful info is there too.
My manager doesn't understand my condition and has been very snotty in her responses to me. How do I address them? I finally got the confirmation last year that I'm adhd and advised her. She has no empathy nor does she see the value in what I'm able to do ( excel nerd). I'm stumped and a bit irked at her.
It is hard to get a good psychiatrist who is well meaning when it comes to treat ADHD. I have Bipolar Type 2. I don’t exhibit Depression anymore or suicidal ideation. My mood stabilizers are on the sweet spot. Now, ADHD is hard to manage because I don’t take meds.
Patients have a right to know what they are taking - and why. Here are some questions you must and have to ask your doctor.
1. What is this medicine for?
2. How long should I take it?
3. Should I take it until the bottle is empty?
4. Should I leave until my symptoms have gone?
5. What should I do if I miss a dose?
6. What side effects should I particularly watch out for?
7. Will it make me drowsy?
8. Am I likely to need to take more when these have gone?
9. Should I arrange another consultation?
10. Are there any foods I should avoid?
11. Should I avoid alcohol?
12. How long will the medicine take to work?
13. How will I know that it is working?
14. If I stop taking it, how should I stop?
15. How should I taper off it?
16. What are non-drug alternatives?
Any Doctor who does not tell you any of that should be fired because they are not doing their job properly, but they all don’t, so that is why you MUST not leave without asking those questions. It might cost you your health or life if you do not.
My younger brother did not and it cost him his life in a car crash
I wish I were one of those high achieving people with ADHD as I am the complete opposite though I am creative
Soooo true what kind of Dr would you go to .
Am I the only one who laughed when I heard AOL/Yahoo? I didn't even know AOL still existed
I had to google it!
I read Jaak PAnksepp'S "Archeaology of the mind ". Beside the wonderful and amazing evidence he gives for mammals' capactiy for intensely conscious varied emotions (which made me a vegan; it's affordable and tastes just as good), he says that one of the 7 basic emotional systems is "seeking", and it generates euphoria. I Feel that with ADHD this joy is very pronounced, and I feel that any job that exploits that capacity for hyperfocused, joyous, high quality seeking (running around like a squirrel seeking nuts) will be very good for people with ADHD. At 28, I still haven't found that job, but at least I know where to look now.
Hi Kili, I love that you feel such joy. I do too!! Those of us with ADHD can often feel more deeply than others without this trait, but that includes the not so joyful either. Stay in touch and let me know what job you find. Here's a little more info on ADHD and career choices: www.drhallowell.com/what-jobs-are-bests-for-adhd/
Ned
Thank you so much !:) I agree. More deeply but also more funny. My brain constantly tells me jokes. It always goes, "Wouldn'T it be funny if..." Oh thanks ! I'm checking it out ! Yes, I will let you know ! :)
How often do you think ADHD is misdiagnosed as depression/anxiety?
What if I'm not doing well in life Doctor? Can you help me?
How are you doing now? 🫂
I want to talk to you. How do I get in touch
After everything else he said in the video, how am I suppose to buy this “adhd is a trait” “a gift” talk?
Oh come on!
It’s a disorder!
That’s nothing to be ashamed about it. It’s no ones fault I have it and I’m working on it since the day I was diagnosed (witch in my case was very late, unfortunately). Now let’s act like adults please, cause talking like this is a gift won’t bring any respect for people with the disorder.
Hi Liu, You're not the first to feel this way, but after 30+ years helping people manage this trait, I have come to truly - not only believe, but Understand - that it is a trait... and can be a pretty good one. BUT it has to be properly managed. The people in my office are not "disabled" or "disordered". I reflect more in this op-ed piece. Please read it and let me know how it resonates with you: www.drhallowell.com/dr-hallowell-i-know-how-terribly-crippling-adhd-can-be. Best, Ned
As an ADHD'er, I have to tell you, doc, you are pretty bad at speaking to ADHD people. I coulnd't even get through 2 minutes of how slow you talk, and take too long to get to your point.
ADHD = no attention span.
Liven it up, doc! Act alive!
haha i was literally just reading the comments while he was talking. lol
Well, that hit the nail on the head! I am so much better speaking in person, but I am trying to bring, what is often called charisma, to the little iphone screen. Your critique is noted.. and very much appreciated! :)
ADHD is not "no attention span". It's many things, *one* of which is the inability to regulate your attention appropriately depending on the situation. To someone who is very interested in learning about ADHD, I can sit and listen to Dr Barkley and Dr Hallowell speak all day for hours and hours with no problem.
I put the playback speed to 1.5 to 1.75, which is my favorite feature of RUclips. Works like a charm!
I need help....please