yeah... hmm... what doesn't make sense is, that the leading psychiatrists in ADHD who are actually doing the Clinical studies, not writing books to sell you, don't agree with him...
I knew a kid that had "hyperacitvitiy". I had no idea that I needed to be diagnosed with ADHD even though I was not hyperactive and masked my other defecits. I was an A student that struggled to get C's.
"it's not an explanation, it's a description" of an ongoing process🙂 "A nominalisation is a process" was one of the first things that I learned when I once got in touch with NLP 25 years ago. So many people, and even doctors, use their diagnosis as an explanation or as an excuse for staying stuck instead of changing the process. I had to teach my doctor, when I freed myself from the symptoms of an "incurable, chronic autoimmune disease" by ignoring the prescribed medicine after it didn't work for some years, and instead by compassionately "talking" with my body. I came up with this solution after I read some buddhist book about mindful communication and using what I learned before about meditation and hypnosis. I did read "The myth of normal", and learned a lot from Mr. Gabor. And after this interview I think next I'd read the "Scattered minds" and "When the body sais no". Still so many interesting things to learn... 🙂Thanks for the inspiration!
You should look into the musical artists Ren. He had auto immune disorders that were not taken seriously by his doctors so he had to find a way to help himself. He writes music about it
So up to date with the neuro work and now scans that show proof of rewring. I am free of CFS because of you and other up-to-date therapists. I am a therapist and I had no idea how to heal myself. Very sad but I now have tremendous, powerful knowledge. I salute you Dr Gabor
This is how the standard is challenged and new perspectives and solutions are created . This is how love and wisdom clearly breaks through cyclical and old ways thinking -diagnosis dissected dismantled. Thank you Dr Mate. ❤
I partially agree with Dr. Mate, primarily with his claim that the way in which ADHD diagnosis and treatment is most commonly done does not capture the full scope of the disorder. It is imperative for individuals to educate themselves on the disorder to fully understand how it manifests in their daily lives. I disagree with him on most other points, including his assertion that there is no genetic component. There is a large body of quality evidence which says otherwise. Aside from that, there is also ample data showing that there are structural changes within the brains of those with ADHD. As someone diagnosed over a decade ago, I still struggle with this disorder on a daily basis. While I am not a doctor, I have still spent countless hours researching and pouring over any relevant studies, listening to lectures, seeing various clinical psychologists with specialization with the disorder, etc. Dr. Mate’s views are quite at odds with the established science.
Well said. Additionally, toxic and chronic stress can also have dramatic impacts on the developing brain. Understanding the differences between adverse childhood experiences (ACEs) and ADHD is crucial. Both may have similar symptoms and presentations. You can have both and also have them separately. There is absolutely a genetic component to ADHD and now that we have mapped the human genome and with further advances in neuroscience we understand many of the genes that are associated with it and it’s high heritability . Trauma can also impact genes and there is more research showing how the epigenetic tags are prevalent often in the third generation of offspring. Trauma and ADHD are very different etiologies, but also have a complex interplay. We should question diagnostics because they aren’t yet a perfect science. However to say ADHD is a myth is not only wrong but as a doctor is dangerous and harmful to those who do have it. Here are some references to longitudinal and meta analysis peer reviewed studies and also a short video by Dr. Russell Barkley who is a leading researcher, author and neuropsychologist internationally renowned for his work in this field. wisesquirrels.com/articles/why-dr-gabor-mat-is-worse-than-wrong-about-adhd
I believe they touched on the genetic component very briefly, when they were saying how RNA is changed by chronic stress. There is a genetic component to many disorders though, traumatic experiences can change how DNA expresses itself. I think Gabor is right on the money here, when he says it is likely a result of chronic stress to the parent and to the child as well.
I agree that diagnoses are incomplete, that our understanding of the probable swath of disorders that are all falling under the blanket of “ADHD” (just like ASD, schizophrenia, and all sorts of differently functioning brain labels ) are poorly understood. There’s a young woman doing a bunch of as-yet-unfunded research on metabolic differences in ASD that account for a lot of the comorbidities- this is hard science, such as an inability to utilize BH4 properly because of an underproduction of enzymes and subsequent lack of neurotransmitters…this is pretty hard science stuff. So, yeah, emotional, environmental, dietary stress can change gene expression, cause mutations, and result in a very physical problem that keeps brains from functioning optimally. So helping mothers to not be stressed, supporting them emotionally and financially, not letting countries drop bombs on hospitals because “terrorists” might be there, would help our future prospects for having enough functional adults to keep humanity’s head above the water. But right now we need better methods for treating brains that don’t work, which means a better understanding of the metabolic processes that cause them to be inefficient, and sometimes I wonder if this sort of rhetoric detracts from that.
This is exactly the reason I finally chose to go NO CONTACT with my family, after 60 years, as I will no longer allow this threat of abandonment to be used against me. It's neglect and abuse. Listening to this man is very helpful with coming to some understanding as to why they behaved in this fashion. It may not make it easier but it certainly helps to know that the issue was not mine to begin with & is not my fault.
I’m so glad that I continued to listen to/watch this video, despite being in complete disagreement initially lol 😂 I actually learned a lot about a topic that I genuinely DO know a lot about. I love when someone can make me completely question what I thought I knew
This guy isn’t backed by the medical and scientific communities for his beliefs on adhd. They aren’t backed by actual research. He’s just a good speaker and bull shitter.
@@oanavonu-boriceanu5046 harvard didn’t quote him though. Parts of what he says are fine but not everything. He denies solid research on the genetics of adhd. He essentially has confused that people with adhd encounter more trauma and so have trauma responses as well with having adhd in the first place. It’s a problem.
@@GreenSharpieScience Yes, there’s mixed research out there as in any field. I think it’s a good indication that what he speaks about is in line with more recent research. We are still catching up - most adhd research was completed in the 80’s and 90’s and now we are focusing on trauma more. The adhd brain and trauma brain look the same on scans. The heavy emphasis on the medical model in previous decades has prevented some of the understanding on how trauma manifests as psychological diagnoses. Personally in my practice, I have yet to see a client with adhd who didn’t have childhood trauma. I am open to both views but so far the evidence I’ve seen is skewing in dr. Gabor’s direction.
@@oanavonu-boriceanu5046 you should probably do another lit review. Most research on ADHD is being done now. It’s also considered the third most genetic psychiatric condition. Trauma is absolutely an issue with adhd and that deserves significant attention, but anyone who goes around saying that decades of solid research is just wrong because he just doesn’t feel it’s right, that kind of person should never be trusted or looked at for any kind of medical advice. It’s one thing if he were actually doing research to back any of his personal beliefs but he doesn’t, nor is any lab I’m aware of. And that alone should be a huge red flag, because if you know any researchers, testing new hypotheses that has the possibility contradict and/or expand our understanding on a condition is the best way to progress understanding. But no one in adhd research is bothering with his views, because there’s nothing there.
I would love this dialogue/debate. I know Russell has taken exception to Gabor's personal hypothesis on the nature of ADHD. ruclips.net/video/bO19LWJ0ZnM/видео.html
@@djtuskan That scientific research has produced neither a substantiated explanation of the nature of ADHD nor objective diagnostic tools. It has created only a hypothetical and descriptive theoretical framework; and whose only assessment tool depends on psychological and behavioral phenomena, which is the very ground on which Gabor Maté develops his hypothesis. In my view there is no evidence that the perspective as a disorder and drug-focused treatment promoted by Barkley is any closer to reality than Maté's.
This is so powerful. Healing. Liberating. I'm on Chapter 27 ( jumped from Chapter 4 🙂) of Scattered Minds. Everything seems to be making sense at age 52.
I cheer you on. Fighting, to actually heal, may melt into grieving losses; please get support to name everything that harmed you, and then grieve, to heal, to let it all go, to move it through you and out. I wish you very well.
Thank you for a simple easy for my brain, technique to move on. I’m not looking forward to the grieving and coming to terms with my part in screwing up my kids lives. Better late than never
@@Msmeohmy52I’m going through that process now at 58. I believe it will help heal generations of pain for all of us. Don’t beat yourself up and don’t do it alone.
I have just tweeted my senior school teacher to thank them for saving me. I can relate to the ‘clever’ comments of teachers but she was so kind and supportive as i wrote to deal with the pain
I work in addictions and oddly I possess ADHD...it sits in my pocket The wallet comment sits true for me.... But it doesn't define me 😮 I sit for hours and listen I go into nature as a photographer after work this is critical for my adhd
On wanting a cookie before supper … some kids get low blood sugar because their blood sugar regulation system isn’t fully mature. And that can severely affect mood and behavior. Too bad more people don’t know this… as a kid with that it felt like I was dying, and I was just treated like I was bad.
Brilliant, I've always felt it was trauma-based. I cured myself of CFS/ME when I understood that, that too was not a disease. I was simply stuck in the sympathetic (fight or flight)
How do I know I have ADD? All those things you described plus I had my brain scanned and it shows the brain of ADD person. It’s sad so many people look down on this or don’t believe people have it. I literally feel like caring around my brain so I can show people if it ever comes up, 😂
trouve un questionnaire sur internet, sur un site tres crédible, si tu coche 5-6 symptômes tu as des risques d’avoir le tdah si ce n’est quelques symptômes c’est des traits TDAH, si tu veux payer , prendre rdv avec un neuropsychologue, ou si il y’a un psychiatre libre , prend rdv, un eeg va montrer les zone affectée ou les zone où il y’a plus d’activité cérébral! Sois pas triste, ce n’est pas ça. Qui. Te définit ❤
I also liked the part about how it's a circular description. And moreover, especially in Europe it's still so misunderstood! And for my daughter it is so fortunate that we have this knowledge now, she's creative and smart but when I think of the negative consequences the disorder, my stomach literally aches. A lot of pieces fall together now for me. Still, I don't agree that traumata are really causal or "necessary" to bring it out. Or maybe I got it wrong in the video? I believe traumata can make things much worse in coping with the disorder or increasing the neurological difference, but I think there's a lot of genetic predisposition. I recently recognized myself so much in the extreme scattered and absent-minded properties but maybe due to my privileged and loving childhood and my natural interest in almost everything it didn't become a problem. But my daughter has had no traumata that I could tell and her behaviour is like a text book description of this disorder, and she was really, really "unusual" in her behaviour almost from the start, she was hyperactive already in my belly. Now it all makes so much sense. I know "normal" does not exist and so many parents think their kid is special, but she has a sister and I also otherwise have a lot of statistics and comparison. It all makes sense to me without any trauma, even with good self-esteem, care and love.
We have ADHD in our family. I am a sensitive child. Raised in the 1960s. I was hyper active and bored in school. My parents put me in swim team in middle school. The massive exercise made me sleep at night, straight A student. Captain of the swim team. I have asked to be tested for ADHD at age 66 and I do not have it. What is going on?
I harped on my wife to get in ADHD meds… I realized that I myself have ADHD and have used alcohol to soothe myself from childhood trauma… my whole life!!
I think he makes perfect sense but im curious how he would explain the twin studies of ADHD children. Also what im wondering is if the amount of trauma correlates with ADHD that would mean that in times or countries was and is much more brutal. Wouldn't that mean that there was more ADHD then now?
I spent a lot of time listening and rewinding to be sure I heard the whole video. I'm not sure I know where to go from here though. I'm an adult and I recently realized how much I identify with ADHD symptoms, but i don't think I want medication. (I'd be the first in my family btw, but I believe my mom was definitely under stress when she was pregnant with me which is interesting and revealing.) What do I do to start functioning better? I heard a lot of tips for preventing it in children but how do we adults "heal"? What did I miss? I feel silly asking. I do have a LOT of trouble reading books by the way.
@@CoachingWithBrooke Unfortunately, my primary care dr barely has time to discuss anything with me. The new doctor I want to see has a 10 month wait. (One down, 9 more to go.) My psychiatrist kind of shut me down when I brought it up. He prefers to only focus on my anxiety disorder. Considering switching psychiatrists too. Meanwhile, my therapist said it's very possible and that I do seem to fit the profile. I'll continue to work with her for now. Since I don't know if I want to use meds for it, I thought I'd try to address possible underlying causes. To be honest, I am not sure I even understand what it means to "process trauma" properly and I don't know how anyone doesn't have some sort of trauma. Oh well. I have so many questions I could write a wall of text! Haha. Always a learning journey. I just figured that by the time I reached my current age, I'd have a better handle on my mental well being.
@@DonnaAndCatshi Donna (and cats, of course) If you would like to look into what "processing trauma" means you can work with a coach, someone like Brooke, and you can also listen to other experts. Two of my favorite creators are Heidi Priebe and Dr. K of HealthyGamer. Hope this helps. It's absolutely a journey worth taking. Life makes an awful lot more sense after you learn what deep emotional processing is all about. Cheers, Some random guy on the internet
I am still trying to understand if frequent anger outbursts could as well be the sign of ADHD? it not just an anger outburst, it’s range, verbal aggressions, throwing things and brraking things…my family is just tired of me…I am tired of myself too. I went to several therapists, did anger management course and everything resulted without any results. Can anyone suggest what I should do?
There is no judgement in this curiosity I’m about to express. When he talks about adopted kids and the trauma caused by being separated from their mothers, it makes me wonder what the impact is on children who are born to surrogate mothers?
The parents being stressed Before the child is born In the mother’s womb , she was stressed+ passed it on to the child. God bless you + the child 😇✨💟🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
First we need to define trauma. Most are reluctant about trauma about trauma because they want to defend their parents, instinctively. Makes sense. Not all trauma is abuse or something extreme, it could be unintentional neglect or sensitive child who didn't feel seen and felt alone. Does.this definition of trauma make more sense now? I do disagree with the uploader framing the question "myth or reality?" It's a false paradigm. Gabor doesn't claim it's not real or s myth, he's simply saying it's not a disease in the way that for example diabetes or cancer, or heart diseases are diseases. And that's not an opinion, that's how science works. Having mental problems which are real, doesn't make them diseases like other illnesses of our organs and so forth.
Exactly. Gabor Maté can do and say no wrong in most people’s eyes (take a look at the comments). People are not in their discernment when listening to his opinion. They aren’t questioning. Say anything with absolute confidence and quote random studies from renowned research bodies and people will “buy it”. Many view him as dangerous. He also believes that all addicts experienced childhood trauma. This is simply not true. I believe there is a level of confirmation bias in people’s positive responses to him. People love to hear what they want to hear. Constantly qualifying himself “I am a doctor”. Doctors are not scientists and any scientist that speaks in absolutes should be questioned. We are always learning more and more about how best to treat ADHD. Bottom line - do what works for you and don’t seek to form your life’s experience around any random doctor’s narrative. We are all different. Maté is a global celebrity who is well adept and wordplay and metaphors. The broad stroke of “trauma” as a label for every psychological and autoimmune ill is dangerous.
It's genetic. The notion that trauma is being passed on by DNA is simply stretching it. Seek regular treatment if you believe it makes your life harder
Brilliant, as ever! Gabor Mate is amazing considering his childhood in Germany during the Holocaust. Long may you shine a light on the mind and the unconscious. Blessings
@@TheDavveponkenHow so?? What has he to gain by being biased?? He's helped the ADHD community exponentially with his data backed and peer reviewed studies and scientific papers, alongside and with other ADHD experts. Have you actually listened to him at all and do you even understand what ADHD is or what Barkley has spoken about? Or are you biased because you want to believe what you hear with Gabor Mate because it suits your narrative? Despite the fact that he has zero qualifications in the area of ADHD or addiction for that matter and firmly disputes his own diagnosis (because he can't come to terms to accept it) and that of his children (who he appears to have brainwashed).
@@KarenCro Why does most people stick to their guns after they've invested their career into it? Pride. And for economic reasons. His attitude is obviously very narcissistic and he rarely if ever defends his standpoint without merely appealing to authority and shuts it down. From my understanding Mate has worked with addiction for many years. And plus: again, appeal to authority is a fallacy and shouldn't prevent you from applying critical thinking and logical reasoning. It is a known fact that psychiatric studies lack methodologically since they are short sighted and their research questions aren't open-ended. In short, they are biased in nature. Neither does Barkley et al. have a greater understanding of social phenomena than of that from medicine (which is very narrow and lacking). It doesn't just "fit my narrative" (that is btw an intellectually dishonest take), it fits a greater sociological narrative and is in line with my own experiences of psychiatric care as well as having been diagnosed myself and accepting trying out their drugs. I have both a theoretical as well as practical experience as to why it is most likely a great misunderstanding withheld by vested interests and discrimination towards those faring ill because of psychopharma. All you adhd'ers are the ones being brainwashed. I was too. You ARE the sum of your experiences and current environment. The problem relates to stress, trauma as well as resulting personality. Not your brain chemistry, a theory being debunked as we speak. Serotonine has nothing to do with depression etc...
@@redbepis4600 that's a great come back. Really. He has taken money from the industry and has a personal interest in not making a fool of himself and his career. ADHD is logically unsound and lacks biological evidence. It's a mirage.
It’s important to understand that my responses are not a reflection of who I am as a person. They are survival mechanisms from a dysregulated nervous system, developed to help me cope. For over 15 years, I have been on a journey to heal and integrate my dysregulated nervous system and address both primary and secondary trauma. Through this process, I have found that once this trauma is integrated, my neurodivergent traits, such as autism and ADHD, have significantly subsided. Now, they serve as sources of power and creativity.
He makes more sense to me than most regarding this subject and addiction... brilliant man
consider pls watching more of his interviews.. he is the only medication we need
YES
Yeah, forget science, he says stuff I like. I'm gonna go wave some sage around my car to start it.
@@Rakrakoowski 😂
yeah... hmm... what doesn't make sense is, that the leading psychiatrists in ADHD who are actually doing the Clinical studies, not writing books to sell you, don't agree with him...
I wish we had all this information back in the 70’s when I was a kid!!!! Man did I ever pay a price for having this disorder.
Yep. See above....
It's no walk in the park. The amount of suffering of all kinds it's cost me that my parents and teachers were uninformed is hard to measure.
Me too. ..I do wish
I knew a kid that had "hyperacitvitiy". I had no idea that I needed to be diagnosed with ADHD even though I was not hyperactive and masked my other defecits. I was an A student that struggled to get C's.
Same
Dr. Mate is so precious. Thank you. Respect and love for helping us heal ourselves and heal the world.
"it's not an explanation, it's a description" of an ongoing process🙂 "A nominalisation is a process" was one of the first things that I learned when I once got in touch with NLP 25 years ago. So many people, and even doctors, use their diagnosis as an explanation or as an excuse for staying stuck instead of changing the process. I had to teach my doctor, when I freed myself from the symptoms of an "incurable, chronic autoimmune disease" by ignoring the prescribed medicine after it didn't work for some years, and instead by compassionately "talking" with my body. I came up with this solution after I read some buddhist book about mindful communication and using what I learned before about meditation and hypnosis. I did read "The myth of normal", and learned a lot from Mr. Gabor. And after this interview I think next I'd read the "Scattered minds" and "When the body sais no". Still so many interesting things to learn... 🙂Thanks for the inspiration!
You should look into the musical artists Ren. He had auto immune disorders that were not taken seriously by his doctors so he had to find a way to help himself. He writes music about it
So up to date with the neuro work and now scans that show proof of rewring. I am free of CFS because of you and other up-to-date therapists. I am a therapist and I had no idea how to heal myself. Very sad but I now have tremendous, powerful knowledge. I salute you Dr Gabor
This is how the standard is challenged and new perspectives and solutions are created . This is how love and wisdom clearly breaks through cyclical and old ways thinking -diagnosis dissected dismantled. Thank you Dr Mate. ❤
I partially agree with Dr. Mate, primarily with his claim that the way in which ADHD diagnosis and treatment is most commonly done does not capture the full scope of the disorder. It is imperative for individuals to educate themselves on the disorder to fully understand how it manifests in their daily lives.
I disagree with him on most other points, including his assertion that there is no genetic component. There is a large body of quality evidence which says otherwise. Aside from that, there is also ample data showing that there are structural changes within the brains of those with ADHD.
As someone diagnosed over a decade ago, I still struggle with this disorder on a daily basis. While I am not a doctor, I have still spent countless hours researching and pouring over any relevant studies, listening to lectures, seeing various clinical psychologists with specialization with the disorder, etc. Dr. Mate’s views are quite at odds with the established science.
I have adhd since 1982, and Dr. Gabor speaks to me
Well said. Additionally, toxic and chronic stress can also have dramatic impacts on the developing brain. Understanding the differences between adverse childhood experiences (ACEs) and ADHD is crucial. Both may have similar symptoms and presentations. You can have both and also have them separately. There is absolutely a genetic component to ADHD and now that we have mapped the human genome and with further advances in neuroscience we understand many of the genes that are associated with it and it’s high heritability . Trauma can also impact genes and there is more research showing how the epigenetic tags are prevalent often in the third generation of offspring. Trauma and ADHD are very different etiologies, but also have a complex interplay. We should question diagnostics because they aren’t yet a perfect science. However to say ADHD is a myth is not only wrong but as a doctor is dangerous and harmful to those who do have it. Here are some references to longitudinal and meta analysis peer reviewed studies and also a short video by Dr. Russell Barkley who is a leading researcher, author and neuropsychologist internationally renowned for his work in this field. wisesquirrels.com/articles/why-dr-gabor-mat-is-worse-than-wrong-about-adhd
I believe they touched on the genetic component very briefly, when they were saying how RNA is changed by chronic stress.
There is a genetic component to many disorders though, traumatic experiences can change how DNA expresses itself. I think Gabor is right on the money here, when he says it is likely a result of chronic stress to the parent and to the child as well.
Established science is often quite at odds with the truth
I agree that diagnoses are incomplete, that our understanding of the probable swath of disorders that are all falling under the blanket of “ADHD” (just like ASD, schizophrenia, and all sorts of differently functioning brain labels ) are poorly understood. There’s a young woman doing a bunch of as-yet-unfunded research on metabolic differences in ASD that account for a lot of the comorbidities- this is hard science, such as an inability to utilize BH4 properly because of an underproduction of enzymes and subsequent lack of neurotransmitters…this is pretty hard science stuff. So, yeah, emotional, environmental, dietary stress can change gene expression, cause mutations, and result in a very physical problem that keeps brains from functioning optimally. So helping mothers to not be stressed, supporting them emotionally and financially, not letting countries drop bombs on hospitals because “terrorists” might be there, would help our future prospects for having enough functional adults to keep humanity’s head above the water. But right now we need better methods for treating brains that don’t work, which means a better understanding of the metabolic processes that cause them to be inefficient, and sometimes I wonder if this sort of rhetoric detracts from that.
This is exactly the reason I finally chose to go NO CONTACT with my family, after 60 years, as I will no longer allow this threat of abandonment to be used against me. It's neglect and abuse. Listening to this man is very helpful with coming to some understanding as to why they behaved in this fashion. It may not make it easier but it certainly helps to know that the issue was not mine to begin with & is not my fault.
It's GAH-bor not Guh-BOR.
@@ooulalah4333 It's Gabor. What's your point?
@@ooulalah4333🤷🏻♀️
@@DosBear he has a tricky to pronounce name for some people. they might have wanted to add a comment, not a response to yours
@@drendelous they were being rude & saying he is boring.
I’m so glad that I continued to listen to/watch this video, despite being in complete disagreement initially lol 😂 I actually learned a lot about a topic that I genuinely DO know a lot about. I love when someone can make me completely question what I thought I knew
This guy isn’t backed by the medical and scientific communities for his beliefs on adhd. They aren’t backed by actual research. He’s just a good speaker and bull shitter.
@@GreenSharpieSciencehe literally quoted the Harvard center of the developing child!
@@oanavonu-boriceanu5046 harvard didn’t quote him though. Parts of what he says are fine but not everything. He denies solid research on the genetics of adhd. He essentially has confused that people with adhd encounter more trauma and so have trauma responses as well with having adhd in the first place. It’s a problem.
@@GreenSharpieScience Yes, there’s mixed research out there as in any field. I think it’s a good indication that what he speaks about is in line with more recent research. We are still catching up - most adhd research was completed in the 80’s and 90’s and now we are focusing on trauma more. The adhd brain and trauma brain look the same on scans. The heavy emphasis on the medical model in previous decades has prevented some of the understanding on how trauma manifests as psychological diagnoses.
Personally in my practice, I have yet to see a client with adhd who didn’t have childhood trauma. I am open to both views but so far the evidence I’ve seen is skewing in dr. Gabor’s direction.
@@oanavonu-boriceanu5046 you should probably do another lit review. Most research on ADHD is being done now. It’s also considered the third most genetic psychiatric condition. Trauma is absolutely an issue with adhd and that deserves significant attention, but anyone who goes around saying that decades of solid research is just wrong because he just doesn’t feel it’s right, that kind of person should never be trusted or looked at for any kind of medical advice. It’s one thing if he were actually doing research to back any of his personal beliefs but he doesn’t, nor is any lab I’m aware of. And that alone should be a huge red flag, because if you know any researchers, testing new hypotheses that has the possibility contradict and/or expand our understanding on a condition is the best way to progress understanding. But no one in adhd research is bothering with his views, because there’s nothing there.
Dialogue/Debate, Russel Barkley & Gabor Mate
scientific research vs feelings - RB has addressed GB as more than wrong
I would love this dialogue/debate. I know Russell has taken exception to Gabor's personal hypothesis on the nature of ADHD. ruclips.net/video/bO19LWJ0ZnM/видео.html
@@djtuskan That scientific research has produced neither a substantiated explanation of the nature of ADHD nor objective diagnostic tools. It has created only a hypothetical and descriptive theoretical framework; and whose only assessment tool depends on psychological and behavioral phenomena, which is the very ground on which Gabor Maté develops his hypothesis. In my view there is no evidence that the perspective as a disorder and drug-focused treatment promoted by Barkley is any closer to reality than Maté's.
@@myler45 Are you familiar with RB studies?
@@myler45 do you agree that earth is not flat
This actually makes complete sense my mother has very extreme stress and trauma
This is so powerful. Healing. Liberating. I'm on Chapter 27 ( jumped from Chapter 4 🙂) of Scattered Minds. Everything seems to be making sense at age 52.
DR. gabor absolutely 💯 speaks to me and his videos have brought me to tears 😢. Adhd all my life x ritalin 1982z and still fighting
I cheer you on. Fighting, to actually heal, may melt into grieving losses; please get support to name everything that harmed you, and then grieve, to heal, to let it all go, to move it through you and out.
I wish you very well.
Thank you for a simple easy for my brain, technique to move on. I’m not looking forward to the grieving and coming to terms with my part in screwing up my kids lives. Better late than never
@@Msmeohmy52I’m going through that process now at 58. I believe it will help heal generations of pain for all of us. Don’t beat yourself up and don’t do it alone.
I have just tweeted my senior school teacher to thank them for saving me. I can relate to the ‘clever’ comments of teachers but she was so kind and supportive as i wrote to deal with the pain
Isn’t it incredible how powerful teachers words can be!
Dr Maté’s work has finally helped me change my life!
Great material, as usual when listening Dr Mate.
Great host as well.
I work in addictions and oddly I possess ADHD...it sits in my pocket
The wallet comment sits true for me....
But it doesn't define me 😮
I sit for hours and listen
I go into nature as a photographer after work this is critical for my adhd
Also lessons at school are not interesting. If we incorporate individual interests they may be more motivated.
I am so intrigued...and it's eye opening the perspectives that Dr Mete brought up. Just wow
On wanting a cookie before supper … some kids get low blood sugar because their blood sugar regulation system isn’t fully mature. And that can severely affect mood and behavior. Too bad more people don’t know this… as a kid with that it felt like I was dying, and I was just treated like I was bad.
Thank you! I have watched a lot of Gabor Mate, and I still found something new here 😀
Brilliant, I've always felt it was trauma-based. I cured myself of CFS/ME when I understood that, that too was not a disease. I was simply stuck in the sympathetic (fight or flight)
How do I know I have ADD? All those things you described plus I had my brain scanned and it shows the brain of ADD person. It’s sad so many people look down on this or don’t believe people have it. I literally feel like caring around my brain so I can show people if it ever comes up, 😂
trouve un questionnaire sur internet, sur un site tres crédible, si tu coche 5-6 symptômes tu as des risques d’avoir le tdah si ce n’est quelques symptômes c’est des traits TDAH, si tu veux payer , prendre rdv avec un neuropsychologue, ou si il y’a un psychiatre libre , prend rdv, un eeg va montrer les zone affectée ou les zone où il y’a plus d’activité cérébral! Sois pas triste, ce n’est pas ça. Qui. Te définit ❤
He’s very knowledgeable. i want to buy his book
I also liked the part about how it's a circular description. And moreover, especially in Europe it's still so misunderstood! And for my daughter it is so fortunate that we have this knowledge now, she's creative and smart but when I think of the negative consequences the disorder, my stomach literally aches. A lot of pieces fall together now for me. Still, I don't agree that traumata are really causal or "necessary" to bring it out. Or maybe I got it wrong in the video? I believe traumata can make things much worse in coping with the disorder or increasing the neurological difference, but I think there's a lot of genetic predisposition. I recently recognized myself so much in the extreme scattered and absent-minded properties but maybe due to my privileged and loving childhood and my natural interest in almost everything it didn't become a problem. But my daughter has had no traumata that I could tell and her behaviour is like a text book description of this disorder, and she was really, really "unusual" in her behaviour almost from the start, she was hyperactive already in my belly. Now it all makes so much sense. I know "normal" does not exist and so many parents think their kid is special, but she has a sister and I also otherwise have a lot of statistics and comparison. It all makes sense to me without any trauma, even with good self-esteem, care and love.
Thank you for this very insightful interview. Gabor's wisdom is so important!
Great talk, thank you both.
Glad you enjoyed it!
❤ lovely conversation thank you for this!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank-you Gabor for your common sense , compassion and intelligence.
Emotional lives of children
As a parent, I see the importance of
We have ADHD in our family. I am a sensitive child. Raised in the 1960s. I was hyper active and bored in school. My parents put me in swim team in middle school. The massive exercise made me sleep at night, straight A student. Captain of the swim team. I have asked to be tested for ADHD at age 66 and I do not have it. What is going on?
How were you tested? If it was brain activity as Dr. Amen uses, you "cured" yourself. Otherwise you may have been mistakenly diagnosed originally.
ADHD is boredom and symptoms. That’s why you dropped it in middle school.
They didn't say they dropped from school @@davidsilve5943
Misdiagnosis. ADHD is more than hyperactivity and some boredom, it is executive dysfunction that impacts one's life, among other things
Woahh Brooke! Gabor Mate had the honor of meeting you! 😊 This is so amazing! ❤ You’re a such a gift to this world!
@@galgool9 thank you so much 🫶
Have read all his books, and I adore his wisdom
Dr. Maté is brilliant. Thank you for having him on.
So agree with that. It is a stress response. I aqured it after adulthood trauma. I was about 28 you'd.
So eye-opening!!! Thank you
I harped on my wife to get in ADHD meds… I realized that I myself have ADHD and have used alcohol to soothe myself from childhood trauma… my whole life!!
don't take their poison. It will ruin your life.
Thank you!
Brilliant! Thank you!
Thank you Brooke ❣️ Thank you Gabor ❣️ you changed my life ❣️
Best doc ❤️üdvözlöm Dr Gábor ❤
Thank you Brooke, you did it great!
I think he makes perfect sense but im curious how he would explain the twin studies of ADHD children. Also what im wondering is if the amount of trauma correlates with ADHD that would mean that in times or countries was and is much more brutal. Wouldn't that mean that there was more ADHD then now?
I spent a lot of time listening and rewinding to be sure I heard the whole video. I'm not sure I know where to go from here though. I'm an adult and I recently realized how much I identify with ADHD symptoms, but i don't think I want medication. (I'd be the first in my family btw, but I believe my mom was definitely under stress when she was pregnant with me which is interesting and revealing.)
What do I do to start functioning better? I heard a lot of tips for preventing it in children but how do we adults "heal"?
What did I miss? I feel silly asking.
I do have a LOT of trouble reading books by the way.
have you thought about talking to your dr?
@@CoachingWithBrooke Unfortunately, my primary care dr barely has time to discuss anything with me. The new doctor I want to see has a 10 month wait. (One down, 9 more to go.) My psychiatrist kind of shut me down when I brought it up. He prefers to only focus on my anxiety disorder. Considering switching psychiatrists too. Meanwhile, my therapist said it's very possible and that I do seem to fit the profile. I'll continue to work with her for now. Since I don't know if I want to use meds for it, I thought I'd try to address possible underlying causes. To be honest, I am not sure I even understand what it means to "process trauma" properly and I don't know how anyone doesn't have some sort of trauma. Oh well. I have so many questions I could write a wall of text! Haha. Always a learning journey. I just figured that by the time I reached my current age, I'd have a better handle on my mental well being.
@@DonnaAndCatshi Donna (and cats, of course)
If you would like to look into what "processing trauma" means you can work with a coach, someone like Brooke, and you can also listen to other experts. Two of my favorite creators are Heidi Priebe and Dr. K of HealthyGamer.
Hope this helps. It's absolutely a journey worth taking. Life makes an awful lot more sense after you learn what deep emotional processing is all about.
Cheers,
Some random guy on the internet
@DonnaAndCats check the work of @IreneLyon. She has a powerful program to heal trauma and everything that falls out of it.
I am still trying to understand if frequent anger outbursts could as well be the sign of ADHD? it not just an anger outburst, it’s range, verbal aggressions, throwing things and brraking things…my family is just tired of me…I am tired of myself too. I went to several therapists, did anger management course and everything resulted without any results. Can anyone suggest what I should do?
Have you thought about getting tested? So you know more, and you can figure out the why"s.
@@CoachingWithBrooke Oh yes..now I really need to test it but how?
Amazing interview.
This is wonderful and makes so much sense!
Very interesting 👌
Thanks for this video Brooke and Gabor.
Congrats on this interview, Brooke. Brilliant.
It's Shell, Brooke!! Great work!!
@@cupajoy8498 thank you
There is no judgement in this curiosity I’m about to express. When he talks about adopted kids and the trauma caused by being separated from their mothers, it makes me wonder what the impact is on children who are born to surrogate mothers?
I have seen talk about this too.
Wow, this was so good. Thank you both ❤
What happens when someone doesn't have childhood trauma, but they still have symptoms of ADHD? Where to look for the root of the problem?
It is not always about childhood trauma, there are other scientific studies. this is just one opinion.
The parents being stressed
Before the child is born
In the mother’s womb , she was stressed+ passed it on to the child.
God bless you + the child 😇✨💟🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
First we need to define trauma. Most are reluctant about trauma about trauma because they want to defend their parents, instinctively. Makes sense. Not all trauma is abuse or something extreme, it could be unintentional neglect or sensitive child who didn't feel seen and felt alone. Does.this definition of trauma make more sense now? I do disagree with the uploader framing the question "myth or reality?" It's a false paradigm. Gabor doesn't claim it's not real or s myth, he's simply saying it's not a disease in the way that for example diabetes or cancer, or heart diseases are diseases. And that's not an opinion, that's how science works. Having mental problems which are real, doesn't make them diseases like other illnesses of our organs and so forth.
Exactly. Gabor Maté can do and say no wrong in most people’s eyes (take a look at the comments). People are not in their discernment when listening to his opinion. They aren’t questioning. Say anything with absolute confidence and quote random studies from renowned research bodies and people will “buy it”. Many view him as dangerous. He also believes that all addicts experienced childhood trauma. This is simply not true. I believe there is a level of confirmation bias in people’s positive responses to him. People love to hear what they want to hear.
Constantly qualifying himself “I am a doctor”. Doctors are not scientists and any scientist that speaks in absolutes should be questioned. We are always learning more and more about how best to treat ADHD. Bottom line - do what works for you and don’t seek to form your life’s experience around any random doctor’s narrative. We are all different. Maté is a global celebrity who is well adept and wordplay and metaphors. The broad stroke of “trauma” as a label for every psychological and autoimmune ill is dangerous.
It's genetic. The notion that trauma is being passed on by DNA is simply stretching it. Seek regular treatment if you believe it makes your life harder
Brilliant, as ever! Gabor Mate is amazing considering his childhood in Germany during the Holocaust. Long may you shine a light on the mind and the unconscious. Blessings
He was born in 1944.
@@longjones I believe he was born Jewish and his grandparents died in Holocaust and yes he was a survivor of Holocaust as an infant (ended 1945)
Love this
That was really helpful ❤
He is the best
Fan of gabor mate, you should interview Russel Barkley :-)
Barkley is a biased hack
@@TheDavveponkenHow so?? What has he to gain by being biased?? He's helped the ADHD community exponentially with his data backed and peer reviewed studies and scientific papers, alongside and with other ADHD experts. Have you actually listened to him at all and do you even understand what ADHD is or what Barkley has spoken about? Or are you biased because you want to believe what you hear with Gabor Mate because it suits your narrative? Despite the fact that he has zero qualifications in the area of ADHD or addiction for that matter and firmly disputes his own diagnosis (because he can't come to terms to accept it) and that of his children (who he appears to have brainwashed).
@@TheDavveponken he only seems biased because you are biased. Barkley actually has data to back his claims
@@KarenCro Why does most people stick to their guns after they've invested their career into it? Pride. And for economic reasons. His attitude is obviously very narcissistic and he rarely if ever defends his standpoint without merely appealing to authority and shuts it down. From my understanding Mate has worked with addiction for many years. And plus: again, appeal to authority is a fallacy and shouldn't prevent you from applying critical thinking and logical reasoning. It is a known fact that psychiatric studies lack methodologically since they are short sighted and their research questions aren't open-ended. In short, they are biased in nature. Neither does Barkley et al. have a greater understanding of social phenomena than of that from medicine (which is very narrow and lacking).
It doesn't just "fit my narrative" (that is btw an intellectually dishonest take), it fits a greater sociological narrative and is in line with my own experiences of psychiatric care as well as having been diagnosed myself and accepting trying out their drugs. I have both a theoretical as well as practical experience as to why it is most likely a great misunderstanding withheld by vested interests and discrimination towards those faring ill because of psychopharma. All you adhd'ers are the ones being brainwashed. I was too. You ARE the sum of your experiences and current environment. The problem relates to stress, trauma as well as resulting personality. Not your brain chemistry, a theory being debunked as we speak. Serotonine has nothing to do with depression etc...
@@redbepis4600 that's a great come back. Really. He has taken money from the industry and has a personal interest in not making a fool of himself and his career. ADHD is logically unsound and lacks biological evidence. It's a mirage.
Thank you Gabor for your valuable and so necessary work. ♥️
His work is a guessing game..
His work is based on other people's knowledge.
His work is based on what he experienced and perceives.
@@annelbeab8124 that's right...we can all do that!
I think he is right in some cases but not all cases
Gabor saved me. I honor him.
❤Thank you ❤
Gabor is a Canadian Treasure !
❤️❤️
beautiful
It’s important to understand that my responses are not a reflection of who I am as a person.
They are survival mechanisms from a dysregulated nervous system, developed to help me cope.
For over 15 years, I have been on a journey to heal and integrate my dysregulated nervous system and address both primary and secondary trauma.
Through this process, I have found that once this trauma is integrated, my neurodivergent traits, such as autism and ADHD, have significantly subsided. Now, they serve as sources of power and creativity.