@@bridge4 I know I'm kinda preaching to the choir here but he is (to me) the best writer of all time. I'm an aspiring writer myself and the way he uses context/subtext in dialogue is amazing. I've never read anything like it. Characters can say something seemingly normal and there are so many layers beneath it of subtext.
yung turt You are so right about that. It’s really hard to catch all the shades of gray and the nuances are so subtle it takes multiple readings to discover. Even then, I’m sure there are things we missed.
I absolutely adore this story. Jorah sacrificed everything for love: his heart for his first wife, his family name for his second wife, and his life for his queen.
You'd be shocked at how many times I've read various chapters lol. I should know the chapters way better. I'm surprised this never clicked sooner since the Reed line and jorahs sad line to dany have been two of my favorites for a long time. Better late than never I guess :))
Wonderful, as usual. Still not exactly recovered from the very unexpected turn of events of the show ending, so getting more book info like this from someone so astute makes me remember better days.
If her losing all that was dear to her is what brings her to "madness" it would have been THE difference. Which makes me think that if it goes something like that in the books he might not make it either there... U_U ps: I kinda fangirled because you answered to be honest. Love your videos
Apart from when he was being a spy for the iron throne and sold out dany and her baby and when he was selling the poachers to slavers ser Jorah Mormont is a middle aged man with a predilection for teenage girls and a possessive jealous personality it's massively a credit to GRRMs talent that we all love him so much!
As always, great vid. Love the connections. Jorah may well be the most romantic man in this saga. Fool for love. He sacrificed everything for her, and she left him anyway. Her priorities were not him and not love. He's such a devoted character. He's no longer that naive, but his love and devotion for Dany shows that he is still a romantic, even after all that. It's sweet and sad.
This is why Jorah is such a tragic character... now hes in love with Daenerys and shell probably never feel the same way about him. Wish we got to see more of him in the later seasons of the show, Ian Glenn did a great job
Ian glenn is phenomenal. I love fire and blood, but the dangerous women compendium is worth getting if only for Ian's narration of the dance if the dragons. What a voice. Great actor
On the topic of Iain Glen, he's also in an Australian series from a few years back - Cleverman (2 seasons, 12 eps total). It's a very interesting and unique story, being about Indigenous Australian super humans and the political and cultural machinations around their existence. It actually parallels much of the historical treatment of First Nations peoples. it's worth a watch if you've never seen it.
Great video! It’s the complicity of human emotions that makes our experience in this world so interesting. Love and hate can mate for sure, in books and in real life.
Love this insight on Jorah - he’s a fave of mine for sure! Very cool take on these lines on the book, too - truly fits Jorah’s struggle and the duality of his character. Thanks for sharing! (Really wish you’d read these books - you’ve got the best voice for it for sure!!!)
I know you don’t like editing them Kev, but your narrated book vids are some of your best content, which is astounding, cause all your content is good.
I know this is lame but since I have new s8 footage once I get a new cable so I can finally record again, I'm redoing my favorite passage in the entire story for a third time, without the lame intro There are other passages I may do as well in time :)) grrm is such a wizard Thank you btw
What a legend…it was honestly heartbreaking to see his death in the show. He was one of my favourite characters along with Dany. Team Jorah forever 😪♥️
I will admit to never having been a massive fan of Dany, but I still love his absolute devotion to her, in the show at least, and them fighting side by side at Winterfell was amazing
To each there own. I started my channel after westworld episode 1 bc no one made a video and no one on an mma forum wss engaging with me about the episode. So I made a video in order to have a place to chat. And now I'm addicted Haha. I love discussing this stuff :))
Jorah's problem is aiming too high in his loves. House Hightower was stars above him in wealth prestige and power, and in the books he presumes to love Daenerys Targaryen. If he was wise he'd get some nice Glover, Tallhart or Manderly girl. Mesalliance at that time period don't end well.
Hi Kevin!!! I hope you had a great time at Con 🥳 Thanks for a great video. I have a soft spot for Ser Jorah, despite his mistakes. I think a lot of people's mistakes, both in real life and in GOT/ASOIAF, stem from "The things WE do for Love".
Book Jorah: creepy old guy! Show Jorah: ooh so Bueno!!! (Sexy sexy man, sooo Bueno!!)😂😂😂😂😂😂👀 😂😂That's all I got, haven't had ☕ coffee!!!! Who's the old creepy lady now??!?!?
I agree! I never liked him, but I intensly dislike age gaps in relationships, it causes so much abuse irl. GRRM is an amazing author who understand much about the human condition, but I'm not happy about his treatment of power imbalance caused by huge age differences. I maintain my claim that if he was a she those books would have been even better.
Hi kev. I love ur vids. And ur voice. I love how u see the +ve side of things. And ur insights are awesome. Keep the good work going. Valar Morghulis. 😊
@@aishwarya4157 I didnt record reaction for the entire thing. I actually watched that one on a tv for the first time in two years. But paused right before clegane bowl and went to computer to record my reaction for the ending. I uploaded that Or do you mean a commentary type reaction?
I was soooo fairly tale with my expectations. I thought dany was going to die in childbirth. Jon would decraficie his own life life beric did for kady stoneheart, to raise Dany so that his child would not grow up without a mother like he did. And then dany would abdicate the throne a d settle happily father island unlike jorahs first "dany." Even if just a ploutonic lov9jg relationship so as to raise the child together I wss way off tho lol. Life is hot a fairy tale unfortunately, and neither is a song of ice and fire :*(
She is not, her family was richer and more powerful than his. If anything he was the upstart in proposing marriage to a daughter of House Hightower, the first, the most powerful, and wealthiest of all bannermen in the realm. Even their liege Lord of House Tyrell did not scorn to marry into House Hightower, and even the Targaryens married a Hightower daughter which lead to the Dance of Dragons. Jorah, a backwater lord. was over proud and unwise to seek a wife in House Hightower.
@Gerard Jagroo - hi, you're right, House Hightower was far above the Mormonts in the hierarchy of blobby Westeros. Yet, after reading and rereading and writing - and watching, of course - about the whole mess since before the show, I think Lord Hightower had very good reason to let Lynesse go to the other end of Westeros, close to literally the end of their world. He knew his daughter quite well and probably burned a candle (to the Stranger, who is my favourite) when the Westerosi noblewoman prostituting herself in the Free Cities had to go by the name of Mormont and couldn't mess much with House Hightower's name. It looks as though the connections and relations between Westeros and the Free Cities within reasonable reach of each other disintegrated rather late, with Aerys II. and Robert I., both didn't much care for foreigners, unless they were Robert's drinking compagnions (Thoros, Xhalasan?sp). Ok, enough, I'm in the bad habit of writing to much...thx for yr patience(:
I ain't saying he like them way too young...oh wait that's exactly what I'm saying, because he's a nasty creep and the kind of guy that if he had lived today and was just s regular dude would be the creep who drooled over every year's new high schoolers & never had a girlfriend older than 20. Just because he's a hero type and from the elite he's not excused for chasing teenagers. (Dany was 13!)
@@gerardjagroo Jorah's mistake and her being a gold digger can be mutually exclusive. She shouldn't have married him if she wasn't going to commit to the marriage. Don't justify her shitty personality by victim-blaming a drunk and naive Jorah.
I never got the impression from either the books or tv series that he “hated” her. I know he said he did, but he was madly in love with her. After seeing her once. He beggered himself and lost his honor to keep her and lost her anyway while he was with the Golden Company trying to earn enough to keep her in the style she was used to. When he discovered she went to be some Prince’s or Sultan’s or what ever he was whore to enable her extravagant ways than stay with him he realized she never really loved him at all. I think he hated himself more. She married him because he was a knighted Lord. Because she looked a lot (he said “a bit” but if you’ll remember the part of the story where he captures Tyrion the whore who was pretending to be the Dragon Queen was the reason he was there at all) like Daenerys is one of the reasons he was drawn to her, but Daenerys was so much more than his ex ever could be, he fell so deeply in love with her, than even when he knew he’d never have his feelings reciprocated and when the relationship between Daenerys and Jon happened he wasn’t jealous or resentful of Jon. He loved his Khaleesi and wanted nothing more than to be close to her and serve her however she needed him to. Daenerys loved Jorah but just not romantically and his death is one the reasons she went from protector to destroyer. I’m just glad that in the tv series anyway, Jorah didn’t live to see what happened to her in the end.
Yeah I hear ya. His usage if "hate" is more representative of pain of loss, or self hate as you mentioned Loved your final point btw. I'm so with you. Then again, if he was alive, things may have been different ... *hands up emoticon*
I'm trying to get the last season of GOT out of my mind 😬 but I enjoy your videos,they are awesome and so I will keep watching. Keep up the good content
I've been so perplexed by this forever, the whole jorah the andal thing. in the show he was blonde hair and fair looking, and the andals we're said to be fair-haired and blonde, then I read a depiction of him in the books and hes most certainly of the north lol. Definitely one of the best characters in the show, pray to the old gods and new that they change their minds and do a Robert's Rebellion spinoff!
@@bridge4 I very much look forward to reading (please, George, write and write faster!) the book versions of these tales. I expect most (not all) will not change in structure from the show, but as in all book-to-screen adaptations, the books are so much.... more.
Tbh I believe it’s due in part to how well Iain Glen played him and the nuances he showed made the character feel less creepy towards danny than book jorah did redeeming the character overall and allowing for more emotional investment in him
@@ayom5600 I feel ya. Ian glenn was is phenomenal. And you're right about the writing for show jorah being less creepy, partially aided by the fact that dany is aged up
Holy shit I was about to recommend this paragraph of bran, Meera and Jojen like 2 days ago because it really had my attention but I was looking mostly at the part of "then love and hate can mate. Mountain and marsh, it makes no matter." I just felt like this might be an Arryn-Reed hint though I can't yet find the question to which this relation between houses could be the answer
Hey man, tomorrow I was thinking in u. I saw all ur videos about got. You make me company when we wait for season 8. I don't wanna bother but I really want ur opinion about it. (sorry for my english, i'm just a little brazilian) :D
Hi there. My opinion about what? Season 8? If that is your question, I absolutely loved it. The finale took a second watch to sink in, but now I see every episode as a 10. Pure brilliance :))
There's a good reason for Martin's books being called a Song of Ice and Fire. The theme of opposites is a constant one, from the overlying story arcs to small sideline observations. Since every-single-body knows what it's like to be torn - and most are aware of the emotional devastation that can follow, we're bound to get deeply involved in a saga/an epos as well-crafted as Song/GoT. "It's just a story, a fantasy story at that!" doesn't wash, ever! Don't let anyone make you feel childish or easily manipulated. Besides, you don't need to justify or explain yourself. Loving a great story and holding on to it won't change the world - but it'll change an individual and even a group of people, WE are here and listen and talk to each other, exchanging opinions and thoughts and feelings, right? Maybe a good time to send out a big wave of thanks to all creators of great contents that have developed over almost a decade. Thank you for your hard work and sharing!
Nice one kev 👌u took me to skool on this one,I didn’t know he had been married before lynesse😉,which iv always found very suspicious by the way.Anyway nice one brother 👍
That last line of Jorah goes to show the twisted love he had towards Dany. I don't remember the show version implementing this part which I think they should have because it shows Jorah under a different light, almost making him seem like a bad character. Not only did he betray her but he also comes back to her to some extent because she reminds him of his ex-wife. I'm not saying he is a bad character, he proved he was worthy of serving Dany but it casts extra shade on his past and character as a whole. Even though this would damage his looks I feel like thats what the story was all about. NO ONE was perfect they all had their own issues and you had to take the best of each and even the ¨worst¨ characters had their positives. I think the easiest example of this is Cercei. Though she was filled with hatred her love for her children was never ending. Even if Joffrey terrified her she couldn't stop loving him. This is somewhat related to the previous paragraph but not important to it. I think at some point Dany even reflects upon the love Jorah has for her and thinks to herself something in the lines of: He loves me because i remind him of his ex-wife. I beleive this happens on the ship bringing them to Astapor where one night Ser Jorah drunkenly kisses Dany.
most likely, valyrians dont have special blood. nettles rode a dragon. and dany was the only valyrian to have survived fire (through magic, not her blood)
Wasn't Nettles technically Targ, by blood? Being the daughter of a Dragonseed family, and all? If they were actually immune to fire, she may have inherited that. But I agree with you that Daenerys was only immune to fire through magic.
Hey ! As a lot of people, I am not a book nerd, and I have been really disappointed by the last season... i feel sorry for your viewership loss, keep doing what you like ! I'all watch your videos on other shows tho !
Oscar Kobalt if someone enjoys to read why have they gotta be a book nerd???maybe people like yourself should try to read once in while it do u gd !!!!i know a gd one To stArt you ???Shallow bastard it’s called!!!!!
@@gavomorg762 Hey friend. Calm yer tits. "Book nerd" is a perfectly acceptable colloquial term for fans who focus on the books rather or more than the show. Kev runs things friendly around here, plz respect that.
This whole story is in the clash of kings book. POV of 'daenerys'. Somewhere around 195 page.i guess it was 3 pages of his story. I read the whole story of his but never got enough details of his.
Okei I'll be super unpopular and say that I never liked Jorah, I think he is/was creepy as hell and that even thinking of marrying someone half your age make you a shitty human being. 15 year olds should NOT marry anyone, and def NOT men twice their age, period.
In text, she is what? 15ish? 16? 13? There is a LOT of shite behind Jorah and Lynesse in general, but in text something that stands out is the 'fortnight' HE is happy. The first two weeks together were bliss. For HIM...and then real life. Jorah blames his wife for not understanding what she was getting into...and he KNEW. This isn't even the only 'fortnight' timing in text. Penrose gets a fortnight to give Edric/Storm's End to Stannis, and more fortnights. Including the clever name of Night Fort. People lose their taste for food when they are DEEP unhappy in life. Lyn was DYING and Jorak STILL blames HER.
I could never find anything explicit. Maybe because he is a knight but I dunno if they know or care about that differentiation between the faith. So unless someone finds something concrete, I'm guessing it's just that every westerosi is painted as an andal in their heads
@@bridge4 Do you know why Brienne is "Brienne of Tarth," and not Brienne Tarth? Or, why she says she's not a lady? Or, why Arya also says she's not a lady? Thanks.
@@jeffgalef121 arya and brienne both have biases against the standard role of highborn ladies, so they dont like being called it. Was a nice moment in s7 when she finally held her rebuke and thanked pod :)) Brienne last name is tarth, so it's a good question. But shed also from the island of tarth. So it's just a cool way of saying her name. Like jorah of bear island. Brienne of tarth. Thoros of myr
@@bridge4 I figured it was the case that both Brienne and Arya are ladies by birth, but just don't like being called ladies. As for Thoros, does he have a last name? I figured people not from established houses don't have last names, e.g., Geralt of Rivia.
bridge4 I knew you’re gonna ask me that.... here’s the problem the writing style of this crazy ass author: He left us all these specific clues and inferences that lead to many of us to have these conspiracy theories. He is laying the breadcrumbs and clues that can only lead to these conclusions! no one will admit it but the reason why so many people disliked season eight is because HBO didn’t answer all these crazy ass inferences and close these plot lines. I loved season 8 FYI JONS SPEECH TO THE FALLEN / Dani rage I did not like the ending Per say but it was entertaining. I mean how many clues that Ned was switched with Syrio in the dungeons or “maybe a kiss maybe more there is nothing like a tourney to boil the blood” how many clues about all these other things that he didn’t give us any answer for. THIS IS WHAT PISSED EVERYONE OFF. How many years did I wait for a payout of Who the fuck is Quiathe Or the hardest personally - “when we see each other again we will talk about your mom” My opinion.. (don’t forget I’m a pro REACHER) GRRM is giving a big middle finger to HBO for the changes they made he did not like .....and /or the books will answer all or some of the questions in the end and that’s what I’m hoping for .....and that’s why you better keep doing videos Kevin
My question is Why were there slavers on bear island? after all you have to go all around westeros and back again to pick up two slaves when you could just go to hardhome to grab a few dozen wildling children
@@troperhghar9898 ohhhh gotcha. I'm hot sure where he sold them. Do you recall any details on that? I always assumed it wss some shady deal off bear island
@@bridge4 I'm double checking right now and there's nothing on where the slavers were from if for example bear island were off the coast of dorne it would be obvious that the slavers came from tyrosh however since these slavers were willing to buy prisoners it doesn`t make any sense why they wouldn't just stop in sunspear and oldtown
Isn't there ANY sympathy out there in the fandom for the young wife who basically got the Westeros version of CATFISHED?! I mean, family married her off to live in the middle of the woods to an old man.... How would YOU handle that as a teenager? LOL love this story.
I think I misjudged Jorah. He wasn't honorable like Ned Stark or Barristan Selmy. Jorah would do anything for his ex-wife. He brought dishonor to his house, with the slave trading, going on the run, and becoming a sellsword. So I think he would do that and more for Daenerys. He'd do anything to earn her love. He died for her. Just think, if he didn't die during battle, maybe he would have been the one that Daenerys sent to Winterfell to kill Sansa. That would have been heart breaking. How do I think of these things? #TeamSansa
@@bridge4 I could be one character, in a game thrones, it would be Jorah Mormont. Allot of people hate season eight but Jorah's last stand, is simply an amazing scene. It's my favorite scene and the most powerful scene in the show. I get pumped just thinking about it.
@@darktwistedlady they should but men achieve status, later in life and a younger women, is worth more then a young man. Hence why, young men run off to war, while young women marry older men.
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Did she die?
Only to me
Do you hate her?
Almost as much as I love her
Damn GRRM right in the feels
Lol for real right? Brilliant couple of lines. GRRM is a wizard
@@bridge4 I know I'm kinda preaching to the choir here but he is (to me) the best writer of all time. I'm an aspiring writer myself and the way he uses context/subtext in dialogue is amazing. I've never read anything like it. Characters can say something seemingly normal and there are so many layers beneath it of subtext.
@@manofhonor1685 great post. I'm so with ya in that
@@bridge4 how do I get a number next to my name? :D
yung turt You are so right about that. It’s really hard to catch all the shades of gray and the nuances are so subtle it takes multiple readings to discover. Even then, I’m sure there are things we missed.
I absolutely adore this story. Jorah sacrificed everything for love: his heart for his first wife, his family name for his second wife, and his life for his queen.
Team jorah right here :))
Actually his first wife was an arranged marriage that didn't involve love but she did get pregnant three times unable to carry a baby to term
I don't know how you see these connections between wildly different conversations, but I'm so glad you do. That was really cool. 💜💜
You'd be shocked at how many times I've read various chapters lol. I should know the chapters way better. I'm surprised this never clicked sooner since the Reed line and jorahs sad line to dany have been two of my favorites for a long time. Better late than never I guess :))
Wonderful, as usual. Still not exactly recovered from the very unexpected turn of events of the show ending, so getting more book info like this from someone so astute makes me remember better days.
Well Martin loves his parallels so if you pay attention you can notice a LOT of them.
Jorah wouldn't have left Dany burn Kings Landing. Just saying. He was honorable.
I don't know if she even would have been in the same emotional state had he still been alive :*(
But I agree that he winks have advised against its and at this point in their relationship, it may have made the difference
If her losing all that was dear to her is what brings her to "madness" it would have been THE difference. Which makes me think that if it goes something like that in the books he might not make it either there... U_U
ps: I kinda fangirled because you answered to be honest. Love your videos
Lol I read every comment usually, or atleast, I try to :))
Apart from when he was being a spy for the iron throne and sold out dany and her baby and when he was selling the poachers to slavers ser Jorah Mormont is a middle aged man with a predilection for teenage girls and a possessive jealous personality it's massively a credit to GRRMs talent that we all love him so much!
As always, great vid. Love the connections.
Jorah may well be the most romantic man in this saga. Fool for love. He sacrificed everything for her, and she left him anyway. Her priorities were not him and not love. He's such a devoted character. He's no longer that naive, but his love and devotion for Dany shows that he is still a romantic, even after all that. It's sweet and sad.
Hear, hear :))
This is why Jorah is such a tragic character... now hes in love with Daenerys and shell probably never feel the same way about him. Wish we got to see more of him in the later seasons of the show, Ian Glenn did a great job
I don't think Dany is feeling much of anything these days nor Jorah.
Ian glenn is phenomenal. I love fire and blood, but the dangerous women compendium is worth getting if only for Ian's narration of the dance if the dragons. What a voice. Great actor
@@bridge4 I heard Iain is about to be Batman on Titans!
On the topic of Iain Glen, he's also in an Australian series from a few years back - Cleverman (2 seasons, 12 eps total). It's a very interesting and unique story, being about Indigenous Australian super humans and the political and cultural machinations around their existence. It actually parallels much of the historical treatment of First Nations peoples. it's worth a watch if you've never seen it.
@@dfunkt2291 thanks for the heads up. I've seen this recommended before iirc
Great video! It’s the complicity of human emotions that makes our experience in this world so interesting. Love and hate can mate for sure, in books and in real life.
Hear, hear! I'm with ya
Love this insight on Jorah - he’s a fave of mine for sure! Very cool take on these lines on the book, too - truly fits Jorah’s struggle and the duality of his character. Thanks for sharing! (Really wish you’d read these books - you’ve got the best voice for it for sure!!!)
Thanks :))
You’re such a good reader. And poor Jorah. He deserved better ❤️
Thanks and I agree :))
Debería haber tenido hijos bonitos con Lynesse hubiese sido interesante verlo con hijos
Aww poor Ser Jorah. He was a good man. . Great little video Kev. Thank you.
Good man?? Or great man :-P :-))
@@bridge4 I guess, both. :)
@@drogna3905 it's a silly joke about frosted flakes. Tony the tiger would say "they're not good. They're gRrrrrr-eat! :))
@@bridge4 ah yes lol. I'm a bit slow 😂🤣😂
I know you don’t like editing them Kev, but your narrated book vids are some of your best content, which is astounding, cause all your content is good.
I know this is lame but since I have new s8 footage once I get a new cable so I can finally record again, I'm redoing my favorite passage in the entire story for a third time, without the lame intro
There are other passages I may do as well in time :)) grrm is such a wizard
Thank you btw
That’s not lame! It sounds so cool. Or maybe I’m lame, I don’t know. I’ll have Theresa weigh in lol
Lol you're too much. You're probably not even funny, but I'm easily amused. So I giggled :))
@@bridge4 Careful with the perfectionist disease, or you'll end up like Tolkien, editing forever and publishing nothin much.
Lol I hear ya
What a legend…it was honestly heartbreaking to see his death in the show. He was one of my favourite characters along with Dany. Team Jorah forever 😪♥️
I will admit to never having been a massive fan of Dany, but I still love his absolute devotion to her, in the show at least, and them fighting side by side at Winterfell was amazing
Glad too see your still making videos after the show ended
A lot of channels jumped ship unfortunately
To each there own. I started my channel after westworld episode 1 bc no one made a video and no one on an mma forum wss engaging with me about the episode. So I made a video in order to have a place to chat.
And now I'm addicted Haha. I love discussing this stuff :))
bridge4 Hell Yeah Man I respect that, I’ll be watching till you stop love the Vids Helps me learn haha
Jorah's problem is aiming too high in his loves. House Hightower was stars above him in wealth prestige and power, and in the books he presumes to love Daenerys Targaryen.
If he was wise he'd get some nice Glover, Tallhart or Manderly girl.
Mesalliance at that time period don't end well.
He started with a glover. Another victim of childbed :(
Damn, great video kev, never forget ser jorah HERE WE STAND 👍 and shared
House kevs words are, "here I sit. It's so effin hot out"
@bridge4 - hi! You just couldn't let that one pass you by, right?
Hi Kevin!!! I hope you had a great time at Con 🥳 Thanks for a great video. I have a soft spot for Ser Jorah, despite his mistakes. I think a lot of people's mistakes, both in real life and in GOT/ASOIAF, stem from "The things WE do for Love".
Well said, m'lady. So true
The heart wants what the heart wants
@@lindajude6505 are you quoting the great Selena gomez!?!? :))
Hi Kev 😊 ummm yeah sure 😋
Book Jorah: creepy old guy!
Show Jorah: ooh so Bueno!!! (Sexy sexy man, sooo Bueno!!)😂😂😂😂😂😂👀
😂😂That's all I got, haven't had ☕ coffee!!!!
Who's the old creepy lady now??!?!?
Lolol
I agree! I never liked him, but I intensly dislike age gaps in relationships, it causes so much abuse irl. GRRM is an amazing author who understand much about the human condition, but I'm not happy about his treatment of power imbalance caused by huge age differences. I maintain my claim that if he was a she those books would have been even better.
Hi kev. I love ur vids. And ur voice. I love how u see the +ve side of things. And ur insights are awesome. Keep the good work going. Valar Morghulis. 😊
Valar dohaeris, my friend :))
Btw I'm still waiting for ur reaction of the final episode... 😂😂
@@aishwarya4157 I didnt record reaction for the entire thing. I actually watched that one on a tv for the first time in two years. But paused right before clegane bowl and went to computer to record my reaction for the ending. I uploaded that
Or do you mean a commentary type reaction?
Either of the 2. But yeah I meant the commentary one. U are one of the few people who still see the silver lining in the final season. :))
This made me really sad. I adore Jorah, and thought he deserved some true love in his life. Wish Dany would have wised up and married him!
I was soooo fairly tale with my expectations. I thought dany was going to die in childbirth. Jon would decraficie his own life life beric did for kady stoneheart, to raise Dany so that his child would not grow up without a mother like he did. And then dany would abdicate the throne a d settle happily father island unlike jorahs first "dany." Even if just a ploutonic lov9jg relationship so as to raise the child together
I wss way off tho lol. Life is hot a fairy tale unfortunately, and neither is a song of ice and fire :*(
You definitely make the most interesting videos about Asoiaf. All the best from Montenegro
Thanks for the kind words. All the best for Jersey :))
I ain't saying she's a gold digger...
Lmao. She was the definition. Good call
She is not, her family was richer and more powerful than his. If anything he was the upstart in proposing marriage to a daughter of House Hightower, the first, the most powerful, and wealthiest of all bannermen in the realm. Even their liege Lord of House Tyrell did not scorn to marry into House Hightower, and even the Targaryens married a Hightower daughter which lead to the Dance of Dragons.
Jorah, a backwater lord. was over proud and unwise to seek a wife in House Hightower.
@Gerard Jagroo - hi, you're right, House Hightower was far above the Mormonts in the hierarchy of blobby Westeros. Yet, after reading and rereading and writing - and watching, of course - about the whole mess since before the show, I think Lord Hightower had very good reason to let Lynesse go to the other end of Westeros, close to literally the end of their world. He knew his daughter quite well and probably burned a candle (to the Stranger, who is my favourite) when the Westerosi noblewoman prostituting herself in the Free Cities had to go by the name of Mormont and couldn't mess much with House Hightower's name. It looks as though the connections and relations between Westeros and the Free Cities within reasonable reach of each other disintegrated rather late, with Aerys II. and Robert I., both didn't much care for foreigners, unless they were Robert's drinking compagnions (Thoros, Xhalasan?sp). Ok, enough, I'm in the bad habit of writing to much...thx for yr patience(:
I ain't saying he like them way too young...oh wait that's exactly what I'm saying, because he's a nasty creep and the kind of guy that if he had lived today and was just s regular dude would be the creep who drooled over every year's new high schoolers & never had a girlfriend older than 20.
Just because he's a hero type and from the elite he's not excused for chasing teenagers. (Dany was 13!)
@@gerardjagroo Jorah's mistake and her being a gold digger can be mutually exclusive. She shouldn't have married him if she wasn't going to commit to the marriage. Don't justify her shitty personality by victim-blaming a drunk and naive Jorah.
Ah love the video! Thanks so much. Jorah Superfan here and you made me tear up a bit
Yes!!! Jorah gets alot of flack. I love seeing hardcore jorah fans :))
Does he really get flack? What the hell for??
I never got the impression from either the books or tv series that he “hated” her. I know he said he did, but he was madly in love with her. After seeing her once. He beggered himself and lost his honor to keep her and lost her anyway while he was with the Golden Company trying to earn enough to keep her in the style she was used to. When he discovered she went to be some Prince’s or Sultan’s or what ever he was whore to enable her extravagant ways than stay with him he realized she never really loved him at all. I think he hated himself more. She married him because he was a knighted Lord. Because she looked a lot (he said “a bit” but if you’ll remember the part of the story where he captures Tyrion the whore who was pretending to be the Dragon Queen was the reason he was there at all) like Daenerys is one of the reasons he was drawn to her, but Daenerys was so much more than his ex ever could be, he fell so deeply in love with her, than even when he knew he’d never have his feelings reciprocated and when the relationship between Daenerys and Jon happened he wasn’t jealous or resentful of Jon. He loved his Khaleesi and wanted nothing more than to be close to her and serve her however she needed him to. Daenerys loved Jorah but just not romantically and his death is one the reasons she went from protector to destroyer. I’m just glad that in the tv series anyway, Jorah didn’t live to see what happened to her in the end.
Yeah I hear ya. His usage if "hate" is more representative of pain of loss, or self hate as you mentioned
Loved your final point btw. I'm so with you. Then again, if he was alive, things may have been different ... *hands up emoticon*
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Have thanks tay :))
Still hitting them out of the park, Ser. Hope you are well. Cheers, y'all.
You as well, thanks :))
Summer was such a good doggo.
He sure was :))
@@bridge4 He still is, really hope the books don't kill him off.
I haven't read the books yet so I don't know if he's as likeable but damn. I just want to give Jorah a hug haha
I'm trying to get the last season of GOT out of my mind 😬 but I enjoy your videos,they are awesome and so I will keep watching. Keep up the good content
Thanks :))
I've been so perplexed by this forever, the whole jorah the andal thing. in the show he was blonde hair and fair looking, and the andals we're said to be fair-haired and blonde, then I read a depiction of him in the books and hes most certainly of the north lol. Definitely one of the best characters in the show, pray to the old gods and new that they change their minds and do a Robert's Rebellion spinoff!
The bitter-sweet of it all.
I wonder how many show only fans know the details of his past. It's so sad :*( hopefully some people find this useful :))
@@bridge4 So many pages, so many stories.
@@bridge4 I very much look forward to reading (please, George, write and write faster!) the book versions of these tales. I expect most (not all) will not change in structure from the show, but as in all book-to-screen adaptations, the books are so much.... more.
Loved this!
Hats off to ser george r.r. mountain :-P
Oof that hurts. For all the bad he’s done Jorah is my favorite
Aw really? I love see that. Very cool :))
Tbh I believe it’s due in part to how well Iain Glen played him and the nuances he showed made the character feel less creepy towards danny than book jorah did redeeming the character overall and allowing for more emotional investment in him
@@ayom5600 I feel ya. Ian glenn was is phenomenal. And you're right about the writing for show jorah being less creepy, partially aided by the fact that dany is aged up
Holy shit I was about to recommend this paragraph of bran, Meera and Jojen like 2 days ago because it really had my attention but I was looking mostly at the part of "then love and hate can mate. Mountain and marsh, it makes no matter." I just felt like this might be an Arryn-Reed hint though I can't yet find the question to which this relation between houses could be the answer
Interesting....I cant think of anything off the top of my head, but I like the way you're thinking. Now it's on my radar :))
As always, I love your videos. Even so, " bridge4 flare", no ." Bridge4 flair", yes.
Lol. Whoopsies
Thanks Kev!
You got it, ser :))
Pretty sure he’s not loving Dany much right now either 😳
Still alive in the books :))
@assumption is the mother etc - sorry, but I just have to say how much I like your name...
FirCorred thank you 👍🏿
bridge4 I’m still catching up on books lol
In the books, definitely NOT! She’s kinda gross at the moment. 😂😂😂😂😂
Hey man, tomorrow I was thinking in u. I saw all ur videos about got. You make me company when we wait for season 8. I don't wanna bother but I really want ur opinion about it. (sorry for my english, i'm just a little brazilian) :D
Hi there. My opinion about what? Season 8? If that is your question, I absolutely loved it. The finale took a second watch to sink in, but now I see every episode as a 10. Pure brilliance :))
@@bridge4 It was about season 8. Tks for anser me! I apreciate ur content!
Pleasures mine. Thanks for hanging :))
That's why he's in love with the Mad Queen!
I'm late to the party, but excellent job as usual.
Thanks diane.:))
Bridge the gap
Jorah will always be my favorite. His death was a good one.
Tragically beautiful arc. Very "satisfying" endings for the bears tho. Long live see jorah!!
There's a good reason for Martin's books being called a Song of Ice and Fire. The theme of opposites is a constant one, from the overlying story arcs to small sideline observations. Since every-single-body knows what it's like to be torn - and most are aware of the emotional devastation that can follow, we're bound to get deeply involved in a saga/an epos as well-crafted as Song/GoT. "It's just a story, a fantasy story at that!" doesn't wash, ever! Don't let anyone make you feel childish or easily manipulated. Besides, you don't need to justify or explain yourself. Loving a great story and holding on to it won't change the world - but it'll change an individual and even a group of people, WE are here and listen and talk to each other, exchanging opinions and thoughts and feelings, right? Maybe a good time to send out a big wave of thanks to all creators of great contents that have developed over almost a decade. Thank you for your hard work and sharing!
Thank you very for the kind words and more importantly for taking the time to write such a deep post :))
bridge4 - the pleasure and privilege are mine, Captain (:
Wow. You should narrate ASoIAF you got a good voice for it. Storm light Archive would be great too seeing as your channel name is bridge 4.
More cosmere stuff in 2020. Thank you for the kind words btw :))
poor jorah :(
Yup :*(
Nice one kev 👌u took me to skool on this one,I didn’t know he had been married before lynesse😉,which iv always found very suspicious by the way.Anyway nice one brother 👍
That's good to hear, bc I'm always fearful of the non tinfoil videos
Thanks as always, ser gavo!
That last line of Jorah goes to show the twisted love he had towards Dany. I don't remember the show version implementing this part which I think they should have because it shows Jorah under a different light, almost making him seem like a bad character. Not only did he betray her but he also comes back to her to some extent because she reminds him of his ex-wife. I'm not saying he is a bad character, he proved he was worthy of serving Dany but it casts extra shade on his past and character as a whole. Even though this would damage his looks I feel like thats what the story was all about. NO ONE was perfect they all had their own issues and you had to take the best of each and even the ¨worst¨ characters had their positives. I think the easiest example of this is Cercei. Though she was filled with hatred her love for her children was never ending. Even if Joffrey terrified her she couldn't stop loving him.
This is somewhat related to the previous paragraph but not important to it. I think at some point Dany even reflects upon the love Jorah has for her and thinks to herself something in the lines of: He loves me because i remind him of his ex-wife. I beleive this happens on the ship bringing them to Astapor where one night Ser Jorah drunkenly kisses Dany.
Great story bridge4.
All credit to grrm :))
Whoa, very cool vid.
Thanks :))
can you make a top 10 fighters of all time asoiaf only not Got?
I'm working on the research for such. Gonna be a bit tho. I have a lot of guys to think through still, my bad :-/
I have a theory that The night king had dragon blood/Targaryen that would explain The third dragon rider and why he survived dragon fire
most likely, valyrians dont have special blood. nettles rode a dragon. and dany was the only valyrian to have survived fire (through magic, not her blood)
Wasn't Nettles technically Targ, by blood? Being the daughter of a Dragonseed family, and all? If they were actually immune to fire, she may have inherited that. But I agree with you that Daenerys was only immune to fire through magic.
Hey !
As a lot of people, I am not a book nerd, and I have been really disappointed by the last season...
i feel sorry for your viewership loss, keep doing what you like !
I'all watch your videos on other shows tho !
Thanks :))
Oscar Kobalt if someone enjoys to read why have they gotta be a book nerd???maybe people like yourself should try to read once in while it do u gd !!!!i know a gd one To stArt you ???Shallow bastard it’s called!!!!!
@@gavomorg762 Hey friend. Calm yer tits. "Book nerd" is a perfectly acceptable colloquial term for fans who focus on the books rather or more than the show. Kev runs things friendly around here, plz respect that.
If only some other princess had caught his eye.. like a daughter from the Riverlands or Stormlands.
Or another northerner who may have dug bear island. Personally that's badiclaly my ideal location. I would loooove it there :))
@@bridge4 of all the places it does sound nicer then most the places. But my Ideal place would be The Arbor better weather
This whole story is in the clash of kings book. POV of 'daenerys'. Somewhere around 195 page.i guess it was 3 pages of his story. I read the whole story of his but never got enough details of his.
Karen took the fuckin''' left me
Okei I'll be super unpopular and say that I never liked Jorah, I think he is/was creepy as hell and that even thinking of marrying someone half your age make you a shitty human being.
15 year olds should NOT marry anyone, and def NOT men twice their age, period.
In text, she is what? 15ish? 16? 13? There is a LOT of shite behind Jorah and Lynesse in general, but in text something that stands out is the 'fortnight' HE is happy. The first two weeks together were bliss. For HIM...and then real life. Jorah blames his wife for not understanding what she was getting into...and he KNEW. This isn't even the only 'fortnight' timing in text. Penrose gets a fortnight to give Edric/Storm's End to Stannis, and more fortnights. Including the clever name of Night Fort. People lose their taste for food when they are DEEP unhappy in life. Lyn was DYING and Jorak STILL blames HER.
I always wondered why they called him the Andal.
I could never find anything explicit. Maybe because he is a knight but I dunno if they know or care about that differentiation between the faith.
So unless someone finds something concrete, I'm guessing it's just that every westerosi is painted as an andal in their heads
@@bridge4 Do you know why Brienne is "Brienne of Tarth," and not Brienne Tarth? Or, why she says she's not a lady? Or, why Arya also says she's not a lady? Thanks.
@@jeffgalef121 arya and brienne both have biases against the standard role of highborn ladies, so they dont like being called it. Was a nice moment in s7 when she finally held her rebuke and thanked pod :))
Brienne last name is tarth, so it's a good question. But shed also from the island of tarth. So it's just a cool way of saying her name. Like jorah of bear island. Brienne of tarth. Thoros of myr
@@jeffgalef121 they dont say jorah if bear island. I made that one up before realizing thoros of myr was good example lol. My bad
@@bridge4 I figured it was the case that both Brienne and Arya are ladies by birth, but just don't like being called ladies. As for Thoros, does he have a last name? I figured people not from established houses don't have last names, e.g., Geralt of Rivia.
Lynesse was a Hightower... she had that silver blonde hair
gamer moment
I always believed in my heart Ned caught Jorah and sent him on a secret mission to protect his (Ned’s) daughter to regain Jorahs honor (N+A=D)
If ned had sex out of wedlock tho, then it makes his lie about jon less impactful
Do you still dig n+a=d ?
bridge4 I knew you’re gonna ask me that.... here’s the problem the writing style of this crazy ass author:
He left us all these specific clues and inferences that lead to many of us to have these conspiracy theories. He is laying the breadcrumbs and clues that can only lead to these conclusions! no one will admit it but the reason why so many people disliked season eight is because HBO didn’t answer all these crazy ass inferences and close these plot lines. I loved season 8 FYI JONS SPEECH TO THE FALLEN / Dani rage
I did not like the ending Per say but it was entertaining.
I mean how many clues that Ned was switched with Syrio in the dungeons or “maybe a kiss maybe more there is nothing like a tourney to boil the blood” how many clues about all these other things that he didn’t give us any answer for. THIS IS WHAT PISSED EVERYONE OFF.
How many years did I wait for a payout of
Who the fuck is Quiathe
Or the hardest personally -
“when we see each other again we will talk about your mom”
My opinion.. (don’t forget I’m a pro REACHER)
GRRM is giving a big middle finger to HBO for the changes they made he did not like .....and /or the books will answer all or some of the questions in the end and that’s what I’m hoping for .....and that’s why you better keep doing videos Kevin
My question is Why were there slavers on bear island? after all you have to go all around westeros and back again to pick up two slaves when you could just go to hardhome to grab a few dozen wildling children
They were poachers. He caught them and sold them as slaves, making him a slaver :-/
Alot of irony considering he falls for the breaker of chains :))
@@bridge4 no i mean the slavers who then bought the poachers
@@troperhghar9898 ohhhh gotcha. I'm hot sure where he sold them. Do you recall any details on that? I always assumed it wss some shady deal off bear island
@@bridge4 I'm double checking right now and there's nothing on where the slavers were from if for example bear island were off the coast of dorne it would be obvious that the slavers came from tyrosh however since these slavers were willing to buy prisoners it doesn`t make any sense why they wouldn't just stop in sunspear and oldtown
Ser Jorah had a thing for platinum blondes.
Lol
Moooorrreeee
There's more :))
bridge4 Yeessss!!! Thanks
Isn't there ANY sympathy out there in the fandom for the young wife who basically got the Westeros version of CATFISHED?! I mean, family married her off to live in the middle of the woods to an old man.... How would YOU handle that as a teenager? LOL love this story.
B...
Book version was a vile creep
Interesting that the first woman to break his heart did it for money. The second did it for power.
And the third timez by second person, wss for love :)) (with jon)
I think I misjudged Jorah. He wasn't honorable like Ned Stark or Barristan Selmy. Jorah would do anything for his ex-wife. He brought dishonor to his house, with the slave trading, going on the run, and becoming a sellsword. So I think he would do that and more for Daenerys. He'd do anything to earn her love. He died for her. Just think, if he didn't die during battle, maybe he would have been the one that Daenerys sent to Winterfell to kill Sansa. That would have been heart breaking. How do I think of these things? #TeamSansa
Oh, allot of men share the same feelings as, Jorah. The power a strong women has or can have over men. You hate it but live for it.
I love it. And die for it :-P
@@bridge4 I could be one character, in a game thrones, it would be Jorah Mormont. Allot of people hate season eight but Jorah's last stand, is simply an amazing scene. It's my favorite scene and the most powerful scene in the show. I get pumped just thinking about it.
@@warmonger9100 no doubt. it was legit for sure. im team jorah. ill stand with you, ser
My takeaway is that men should stick to women their own age, and that Jorah deserved whatever he got, the creepy perp.
@@darktwistedlady they should but men achieve status, later in life and a younger women, is worth more then a young man. Hence why, young men run off to war, while young women marry older men.
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