Ray Mondragon added me to your email list and now we are hooked. I'm a homeschooling mom of 5 boys here in Texas. You have inspired our two oldest boys, who are 7 and 5, that this is what they want to do for a living. Love it! Please, please keep the videos coming. Walk us through some of the artifacts you've found! We have subscribed to your channel and are eagerly awaiting more videos!
Thanks for dedicating so many years of your life to find the lost city of Sodom! Neat to hear your story! It’s crazy this isn’t more well known after 20 years.
How does this man answer Genesis 10:19, or Ezekiel 16? Sodom was on the south-eastern border of Canaan, not north of the Dead Sea. Sodom is south of Jerusalem, not east-northeast.
As with _Hebrew University archaeologist Dr. Eilat Mazar,_ whose career was so successful, this archeologist just studied the biblical narrative, --- so found where Sodom was actually located! So many try to undermine, and discredit the Scriptures to their shame. But all their hammers of attack, up to this very day, lie broken around the ROCK of God's authentic TRUTH. 📜 In fact some of those hostile critics, now lie moldering in their graves, but God's Word goes-on, as modern skeptics increasingly are dismayed!
Is there a sign that says it? Could be. Obviously no way to really know, but an airburst meteor is not supernatural. I can get why bronze age people would've thought that though
@@anthonysmith778 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. *For this they willingly are ignorant* of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
@larrybedouin2921 blah blah. Its proven to be a meteor airburst. That's not supernatural. Bronze age people passing down stories and explaining the only way they knew how
@larrybedouin2921 the one that never happened because there isn't enough water on earth to cover the mountains? Another ridiculous story from bronze age people trying to explain a local event. There were floods athletes the end of the last ice age, doesn't make them supernatural
Dear Troweling Down, The question posed was, "Is Tall el-Hammam really Biblical Sodom ?" I thought you would give some kind of defense for identifying the site as Sodom. However, I don't think you really answered the question other than made the assertion it is Sodom. How do I know your assertion is correct or has any objective, evidential validity ?? Your video should have been titled, "How this excavation got started and was approved". Because of the subject matter covered, I think that wold have been a much more appropriate title for the video. Be Well, DZ
"With over a dozen archaeological sites that could be Sodom, what makes Tall-el Hammam stand out? In this first episode of the Troweling Down Podcast, Dr. Collins and Dr. Byers discuss why Sodom is believed to be the location of Sodom." I'd like to discuss why London is believed to be the location of London.
yes. the place Wyatt discovered had almost pure sulfur balls. no where else on earth has them as pure. the fact that google is playing ball with this guy on this video, tells me all i need to know.
@@ebriggs3498 wow. Well answer that. "O people and jinn, if you are able to pass around the earth and the skies, then go. However, this requires a lot of strength. Rahman 33-34"
@osama ali khan I read this detail when I was 15 years old. The archaeologist already knows. The Quran doesn't just want you to know, it says go search. That's what the archaeologist did. Now who values what he reads more.
If you don't want to believe it's her, you don't want to believe it even if you watch it from the movie. While there should have been a huge mushroom cloud like in the Atomic bomb, even the places that were very close did not see or hear it. Those who witnessed the event were the Sodomites, and they all died. With not only one person left. It was one of the most well-covered incidents with no witnesses left behind. If he had been a witness, the information he learned could have carried humanity forward 2000 years. Maybe more. And it was very fast. Like a flash burst. It's like nothing happened when the flash light went off. But I can write a tip for you. There they must find a woman's body under a large stone. That woman is the wife of the prophet Lot. Ignoring the command, she looked back as she fled and saw what had happened. A big stone fell from the sky on her head, she. It crushed her like a frog.
Where are the residual brimstone pieces? The other site which is said to be Sodom/Gummorah, the limestone is melted with the purest remains of sulfur/brimstone. So again my question is, where are the residual remains of brimstone?
ruclips.net/video/jQl4KaRtef8/видео.html Same thought here. Is the actual Sodom located south of the Dead Sea, east of Hebron, where sulfur balls are present as shown in the video link included above. Abraham could easily see the incident from his vantage point in Hebron which is south of Jerusalem.
This is the teachings of men, not God. In another video he talks about the plane of Sodom in Genesis 13 which is correct. But he is North of Sodom in Jordan! Go to Genesis 19 that is where Sodom is destroyed by fire and brimstone by God! God be true and every man a liar, Romans 3:4
Dear @Pat the Rat, There is no mention of the phrase that you said, "the plane of Sodom" in Gen. 13. (we might even mention there are no "planes" mentioned in the Scriptures, they had not been invented yet, Hey I misspell things too). In Gen. 19, Abraham (I think that Abraham may be who you are speaking of when you referred to "he", but you were not very clear about this) was camped somewhere near Hebron (Gen. 13:18, 18:1). There is no indication in Scripture that Abraham moved from Hebron, and was present there during the events described in Chapter 19. There is nothing in Gen. 19 that says, indicates or implies that Abraham was "North of Sodom". Nor is there anything in Gen. 19 that says, indicates or implies that Abraham was "in Jordan". Gen. 19 places Abraham near Hebron in the mountainous region west of the Dead Sea. (Gen. 18:1). The place where the angels departed from Abraham to go to Sodom was apparently not at Hebron (see Gen. 18:16) and it is very probable that they (Abraham and the angels) had traveled eastward to the peaks of the mountains where they could look down upon the Dead Sea. From there they would have been able to see northeast to the Jordan Valley, and southeast to the southern tip of the Dead Sea. After he spoke with God there at that location, Abraham returned to Hebron (Gen. 18:33). In the morning, Abraham left Hebron and returned to that place where he spoke to God and looked (Gen. 19:27), towards Sodom and the cities of the Jordan Valley (or plain = "Kikkar") (Gen. 19:28). These were the very same cities of the Jordan Valley mentioned in Gen 13:10, 11, 12. From the place where Abraham stood looking, he could see the "smoke of the land went up like the smoke of a furnace". He was looking at the destruction of those cities of the Valley. God had served judgement on those cities of the Jordan Valley and destroyed them because of their sinfulness. The distance would have been around 35 miles from the peaks of the mountains near Hebron (east of Hebron). He would have easily be able to see the smoke rising from the Jordan Valley from his location east of Hebron. He would have been looking towards the northeast to see the smoke from the citied of the Jordan Valley. This location of Sodom fits very well with the Scriptures. Abraham would have been located southwest of Sodom, near Hebron (not "in Jordan" as you said) There is no evidence that Abraham was "North of Sodom in Jordan". That actually sounds like you are trying to read some of your own ideas into the Scriptures, instead of allowing the Scriptures of God to speak. Sounds like the video is using the Scriptures, but I don't know where your ideas are from. Maybe you can explain how you get the idea of Abraham being "North of Sodom in Jordan" (Abraham was NOT in Jordan, in Gen 19; he was at Hebron according to the Scriptures. I am open minded but I cannot see how you got your ideas from the Scriptures. If you still think you are correct then you will need to give strong evidence from the Scriptures to verify your ideas. I will not accept just your opinion. Be Well, and have a wonderful Christmas ! DZ
@J. Russell First read Quran brother then make any decision....you said that bible is true but i think you don't know many Christian schlors say that bible is changed by many people time by time....and bible also say that prophet loot who was the prophet in city of sodom make physical relationship with his daughters.....which is totally wrong and baseless go read bible first and then make any claim... With respect -- "BIBLE IS CORRUPTED"....peace ✌️
@@aadilchauhan6306 Bible is corrupted? How can you say that are you a scholar? I have read the Quran actually I have one in Spanish and in English. I could tell you it’s nothing but bogus, cannot take the word of a pedophile over the holy word of God the Bible.
No it wasn't. If Sodom existed, then it was destroyed at the time of the start of Egypt's First Dynasty, because Abraham, or the Abraham epoch, was contemporary with Menes, the First Pharaoh. See my book "Genesis of Israel and Egypt".
Ray Mondragon added me to your email list and now we are hooked. I'm a homeschooling mom of 5 boys here in Texas. You have inspired our two oldest boys, who are 7 and 5, that this is what they want to do for a living. Love it! Please, please keep the videos coming. Walk us through some of the artifacts you've found! We have subscribed to your channel and are eagerly awaiting more videos!
Thanks Katie! It's exciting to be sharing with future archaeologists. ;) We will definitely be sharing artifacts in future episodes. Stay tuned.
Home school moms are the best . Retired home school , mom ❤
You and your boys might like Expedition Bible with Joel Kramer too. 😊
Professor Gary Byers, A wonderful man to meet lots of energy in his presentations. He's fun to listen to.
Very best
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Thanks for dedicating so many years of your life to find the lost city of Sodom! Neat to hear your story! It’s crazy this isn’t more well known after 20 years.
Dr. Steve, can you walk us around the site with a camera and give us an update of what you have found?
Hello Steve, what a great idea! We'll make a point to do that next February when we're back in Jordan. (Are you coming back to dig?)
Incredible to observe the stones and bricks behind Dr Steve Collins were layed by human hands 3000+ years ago.
I just heard about this channel and it’s a topic that I find fascinating.
Outstanding! I've been hoping for a long time that you would begin to release videos on a regular basis. Keep them coming!
Thank you, Eddie! We will be releasing videos regularly. We're monitoring this episode to determine the frequency of posting.
How does this man answer Genesis 10:19, or Ezekiel 16? Sodom was on the south-eastern border of Canaan, not north of the Dead Sea. Sodom is south of Jerusalem, not east-northeast.
Great job
Wow ! Thanks for sharing this Amazing Historic Journey videos. 😊
Explain to me how these rock nerds got
matching indiananJones hats. $5 says one of them has a bull whip in their truck: “just in case”
As with _Hebrew University archaeologist Dr. Eilat Mazar,_ whose career was so successful, this archeologist just studied the biblical narrative, --- so found where Sodom was actually located!
So many try to undermine, and discredit the Scriptures to their shame. But all their hammers of attack, up to this very day, lie broken around the ROCK of God's authentic TRUTH. 📜
In fact some of those hostile critics, now lie moldering in their graves, but God's Word goes-on, as modern skeptics increasingly are dismayed!
Is anyone looking for the cave of the Five Kings? Or the first camp after crossing the river Jordan?
Yes, this is absolutely biblical Sodom.
Is there a sign that says it? Could be. Obviously no way to really know, but an airburst meteor is not supernatural. I can get why bronze age people would've thought that though
@@anthonysmith778
No shit!
God uses what is already natural.
He used water in the global flood.
@@anthonysmith778
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
*For this they willingly are ignorant* of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
@larrybedouin2921 blah blah. Its proven to be a meteor airburst. That's not supernatural. Bronze age people passing down stories and explaining the only way they knew how
@larrybedouin2921 the one that never happened because there isn't enough water on earth to cover the mountains? Another ridiculous story from bronze age people trying to explain a local event. There were floods athletes the end of the last ice age, doesn't make them supernatural
Dear Troweling Down,
The question posed was, "Is Tall el-Hammam really Biblical Sodom ?"
I thought you would give some kind of defense for identifying the site as Sodom. However, I don't think you really answered the question other than made the assertion it is Sodom.
How do I know your assertion is correct or has any objective, evidential validity ??
Your video should have been titled, "How this excavation got started and was approved".
Because of the subject matter covered, I think that wold have been a much more appropriate title for the video.
Be Well,
DZ
"With over a dozen archaeological sites that could be Sodom, what makes Tall-el Hammam stand out? In this first episode of the Troweling Down Podcast, Dr. Collins and Dr. Byers discuss why Sodom is believed to be the location of Sodom."
I'd like to discuss why London is believed to be the location of London.
Funny how the word for circle in Hebrew was Ki'kar when Norse its Kirkle
Didn’t Ron Wyatt discover the city and the salt
yes. the place Wyatt discovered had almost pure sulfur balls. no where else on earth has them as pure. the fact that google is playing ball with this guy on this video, tells me all i need to know.
No!
New subscriber here, thanks!!
Fascinating...
Fire and brimstone
Meteor debris. 2 different connotation
You say it was inhabited later. I don't think the real sodom was supposed to ever be inhabited again. And the ground was destroyed for ever by God.
And it is near a road says Quran. You should have added this info too.
HOLY QURAN SURAH ARAF and various other surahs .. complete details have been explained about qoam e lut.
At least somebody realized
Quran is not holy, but good as a historical document.
@@ebriggs3498 wow. Well answer that. "O people and jinn, if you are able to pass around the earth and the skies, then go. However, this requires a lot of strength. Rahman 33-34"
@osama ali khan I read this detail when I was 15 years old. The archaeologist already knows. The Quran doesn't just want you to know, it says go search. That's what the archaeologist did. Now who values what he reads more.
I was hoping to hear what you had found that might confirm the site as Sodom.
If you don't want to believe it's her, you don't want to believe it even if you watch it from the movie. While there should have been a huge mushroom cloud like in the Atomic bomb, even the places that were very close did not see or hear it. Those who witnessed the event were the Sodomites, and they all died. With not only one person left. It was one of the most well-covered incidents with no witnesses left behind. If he had been a witness, the information he learned could have carried humanity forward 2000 years. Maybe more. And it was very fast. Like a flash burst. It's like nothing happened when the flash light went off.
But I can write a tip for you. There they must find a woman's body under a large stone. That woman is the wife of the prophet Lot. Ignoring the command, she looked back as she fled and saw what had happened. A big stone fell from the sky on her head, she. It crushed her like a frog.
Where are the residual brimstone pieces? The other site which is said to be Sodom/Gummorah, the limestone is melted with the purest remains of sulfur/brimstone. So again my question is, where are the residual remains of brimstone?
ruclips.net/video/jQl4KaRtef8/видео.html
Same thought here. Is the actual Sodom located south of the Dead Sea, east of Hebron, where sulfur balls are present as shown in the video link included above. Abraham could easily see the incident from his vantage point in Hebron which is south of Jerusalem.
@@thomasmathew1007 that location does not fit the biblical description.
My take away from this video - to be an archeologist, it's mandatory to wear an Indiana Jones-esque hat.
I’d love to see an archeologist just once flout the stereotypical attire
This seems off.
Sorry, the brimstone (sulphur balls) speak for themselves. Ron Wyatt's explanation is still the best.
Ron Wyatts location doesn't fit the biblical description.
Will someone tell me what the name of the place that sulfur was found?
any radiation?
John the Baptist Area
Hammam does not mean bath, hammam means birds , and tal means hill, which means it’s called hill of the birds
In arabic “hamam” means toilet or restroom
You Christians can argue about whether something is soddom forever … what matters is that it was destroyed by fire from the sky! Duh.
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This is the teachings of men, not God. In another video he talks about the plane of Sodom in Genesis 13 which is correct. But he is North of Sodom in Jordan! Go to Genesis 19 that is where Sodom is destroyed by fire and brimstone by God! God be true and every man a liar, Romans 3:4
Dear @Pat the Rat,
There is no mention of the phrase that you said, "the plane of Sodom" in Gen. 13. (we might even mention there are no "planes" mentioned in the Scriptures, they had not been invented yet, Hey I misspell things too).
In Gen. 19, Abraham (I think that Abraham may be who you are speaking of when you referred to "he", but you were not very clear about this) was camped somewhere near Hebron (Gen. 13:18, 18:1). There is no indication in Scripture that Abraham moved from Hebron, and was present there during the events described in Chapter 19.
There is nothing in Gen. 19 that says, indicates or implies that Abraham was "North of Sodom".
Nor is there anything in Gen. 19 that says, indicates or implies that Abraham was "in Jordan".
Gen. 19 places Abraham near Hebron in the mountainous region west of the Dead Sea. (Gen. 18:1).
The place where the angels departed from Abraham to go to Sodom was apparently not at Hebron (see Gen. 18:16) and it is very probable that they (Abraham and the angels) had traveled eastward to the peaks of the mountains where they could look down upon the Dead Sea. From there they would have been able to see northeast to the Jordan Valley, and southeast to the southern tip of the Dead Sea. After he spoke with God there at that location, Abraham returned to Hebron (Gen. 18:33).
In the morning, Abraham left Hebron and returned to that place where he spoke to God and looked (Gen. 19:27), towards Sodom and the cities of the Jordan Valley (or plain = "Kikkar") (Gen. 19:28). These were the very same cities of the Jordan Valley mentioned in Gen 13:10, 11, 12.
From the place where Abraham stood looking, he could see the "smoke of the land went up like the smoke of a furnace". He was looking at the destruction of those cities of the Valley. God had served judgement on those cities of the Jordan Valley and destroyed them because of their sinfulness.
The distance would have been around 35 miles from the peaks of the mountains near Hebron (east of Hebron). He would have easily be able to see the smoke rising from the Jordan Valley from his location east of Hebron. He would have been looking towards the northeast to see the smoke from the citied of the Jordan Valley.
This location of Sodom fits very well with the Scriptures.
Abraham would have been located southwest of Sodom, near Hebron (not "in Jordan" as you said)
There is no evidence that Abraham was "North of Sodom in Jordan".
That actually sounds like you are trying to read some of your own ideas into the Scriptures, instead of allowing the Scriptures of God to speak.
Sounds like the video is using the Scriptures, but I don't know where your ideas are from.
Maybe you can explain how you get the idea of Abraham being "North of Sodom in Jordan" (Abraham was NOT in Jordan, in Gen 19; he was at Hebron according to the Scriptures.
I am open minded but I cannot see how you got your ideas from the Scriptures. If you still think you are correct then you will need to give strong evidence from the Scriptures to verify your ideas. I will not accept just your opinion.
Be Well, and have a wonderful Christmas !
DZ
its all in quraan .. humans changed some details in bible .. but if you are interested go check the full story in the quraan :)
The truth is in the Bible.
Where in the Quran please?
@@theRhinsRanger check ( Quran’s Story of Lut ) u will find everything
@J. Russell First read Quran brother then make any decision....you said that bible is true but i think you don't know many Christian schlors say that bible is changed by many people time by time....and bible also say that prophet loot who was the prophet in city of sodom make physical relationship with his daughters.....which is totally wrong and baseless go read bible first and then make any claim...
With respect -- "BIBLE IS CORRUPTED"....peace ✌️
@@aadilchauhan6306 Bible is corrupted? How can you say that are you a scholar? I have read the Quran actually I have one in Spanish and in English. I could tell you it’s nothing but bogus, cannot take the word of a pedophile over the holy word of God the Bible.
No it wasn't. If Sodom existed, then it was destroyed at the time of the start of Egypt's First Dynasty, because Abraham, or the Abraham epoch, was contemporary with Menes, the First Pharaoh. See my book "Genesis of Israel and Egypt".