Being in a relationship with a narcissist is like being in a sinking boat. Trying to compare your sinking boat to somebody else's sinking boat doesn't change the fact that the boat sinking and you need to save yourself. It's just an ugly situation to be in and it hurts
Facts!!! And depending on what kind of narc you’re dealing with determines what actions need to be taken in order to save yourself…… All around traumatic experience.😢
A Malignant Overt Narcissist And He Absolutely Destroyed My Life!!!He Belittled Me Horribly Calling Me Disrespectful Names Highly Manipulative..Narcissistic Abuse Is Brutal..
You name it, I've dealt with it 33 years. I've seen it all breaking everything in the home and we have a very nice home. Broke my tailbone, choked me tried to have me shot. Turn my kids against me, triangulation, smear campaign, every single thing they can do, he has done. I'm just trying to stay alive before I can get out
4:23 He peacocked whenever we went anywhere, dressed crazy, played in a band etc... He had characteristics of all of them. No one would've known he was a Narc until they heard the recording as he raged constantly behind closed doors. He was completely different in front of people than he was alone with me. All fake crap! It was a rollercoaster every day, all day. Up, down, left, right - never knew which one I was sleeping next to, waking up with, coming home to, going out with - pure anxiety! A tornado of toxicity and so grateful to be free!! I escaped 6 months ago 💖🙏💖
Hi Lee. You are one in a million, telling people harsh truths and still can make them laugh. You have helped me - and lots of people - a lot on my journey! Thank you so much. You deserve a gold medal for talking in such an honest and authentic way about this topic - which is yours too. You are brave and have a good soul as well. Respect for your journey! You have made the best of it, teaching us from your knowledge, showing yourself - in order to help us. I am truly thankful ♡ hello from Germany. Nina
Think my x is a Covert. I'm in the process of leaving. When he flew into his narcissistic rages would say I was triggering his ptsd. I would call bs. Made his rages worse. Absolutely amazing how manipulative open mouth lie rolls out, breathe his lies roll out. How well they can deflect when confronted and Absolutely an attention seeker, needing to be all about him. So glad my eyes are open. Trama bonds are real. Thank you Lee you've helped so much.
🤦🏽♀️ You SOOOO on point 🎯💯💯💯I can’t wait to submit my request to come on your show because this ish right here is CRAZY!!!! My testimony will shake you but you are SPOT ON🫨😵💫🥴
I agree. You make me laugh. It's necessary in healing. You're the only channel I watch anymore on this topic, and after I'm better, I'll say goodbye❤@@MentalHealness
My mom was a covert narcissist , and I had husband's who were overtert narcissist. When mothers set this up for you, one falls for overert narcissists. You help me heal. It's a long battle, but I am surviving.
Was with and ended up with a covert Narcissist from the age of 14. I was the man and ended up staying home and being a homeschool dad to our 4 kids we ended up having. I dedicated my life to this women and our children. 2 years ago I lost a lot of weight on my own and started improving myself and I figured out who she was. I made a lot of mistakes when trying to leave and for the first time in my life I was arrested and jailed and now I am a registered felon on misdameanor and felony probation. My house, my kids, all my things have been in her control for over the last year. I am essentially homeless and trying to fight my way back. No one will hire me because no work history and now a felony record. Men, please be careful in these relationships they are dangerous. I am having to restart everything at 39 years old.
Loud. Bold. got to have the best! Ex always said when we were out "I'm used to being the most good looking guy in the rm. I've been dealing with this my whole life." 😑😬🙄
Both types are toxic but the Covert narcissist are the waste. They’re more insidious. They hide behind a cover of kindness or victim hood while manipulating controlling lying and abusing those closest to them. They’re devious..I was married to one. He physically abusive but when I told former friends about they assumed I provoked it. They thought he was too nice to abuse his wife. It took me decades to realize it wasn’t all my fault. I was seeing the real him while he showed others his persona. Lee Hammond videos have helped me gain clarity on narcissism. But when you see those red flags 🚩 run 🏃♂️.
I feel like a lot of coverts are always going through crisis. Their crisis makes them think they can use that to avoid accountability. I notice narcissists tend to be "friends". Birds of a feather, flock together.
All I know is that within 6 months of the relationship he was verbally abusive. He was disrespectful to my mother and my children. He had a friend of mine turn on me. He would start arguments. What a lesson I learned. Do NOT let them rush you into anything. Watch for the red flags.
Not the chopper 😂😂😂😂 I met mine in a beat up BMW, first red flag 🚩 “ her ex damaged her car” I should have ran then 🏃🏾♀️ 😂😂, I still love to listen 👂🏾 even though I’m out of my situation
my ex is definitely an overt narcissist... always dressing in flashy clothes wants to be the life of the party... wants to have people over often...never accountable for anything. it's sad
Also to add to your point, a person can be introverted *and* be someone who has a platform, can perform on stage, can be bubbly and expressive. Introverted just refers more to how someone recharges their batteries and how they often present in their personal lives.
Wow about the pastor, just the whole idea that a person would be this way, and that it has a whole title in years under its belt that people like me never knew existed.
The aura overt narcissist give off is that of confidence which is usually what attracts the other person because most people that are with narcissists are codependent and have low self esteem aka low confidence but the funny part is that they are overt because they lack the confidence it’s like fake it till you make it
Have you only been in one relationship with a narc or do you see yourself attracting narcs to your life? I've counted about 5 narcs x-gf. I'm still undecided about my mom and one of my sisters. Dont want to believe my mom might be a narc. 😒
@@joeoreo2498 Romantic relationship? I only had one. My ex husband. Familial relationships I may have had more. There's definitely something in us that attracts the narcissist to us. They can smell us from miles away. Overtime I realize how important it is to set boundaries with them. They've just gotten so used to walking all over us
What about the narcissist that can switch between all types depending on who he needs to manipulate. Changing like an actor in a movie even playing the victim or playing dumb, talking in a different tone of voice when needed This narcissist can fool anyone anywhere and is confident and proud of the ability to do so. Also very confident believing he is so good-looking, Ladies watch out because he thinks all women are stupid and are the easiest to fool
I definitely believe my ex a cross between Covert and Communal narc traits...he would definitely come off loud boisterous and mean at times...and use to love volunteering when it was beneficial for him...he only did it to get praise and something free
Yes, there are core traits but that they arent exactly going to act the same . I dealt with both. Ex- husband overt and ex- boyfriend covert. Covert can be more damaging to a woman's mental health. But both are bad. The covert ex- boyfriend was willing to seek therapy because he wanted to know why he acted the way he did. He started going to therapy after I gave him a covert narc test. He scored high for covert narc traits. Yes,they can go between the two - my covert did. My ex- husband WOULD never go to therapy because he does not think anything is wrong with him. My overt would belittle when he couldnt dominant or get what he want while My covert never belittled, although was passive aggressive and assumed alot.
Well, if you feel empathy, but you're just mirroring them, they can't feel empathy. So, you know that you're not a narc, you can pick up some tendencies along the way just because you try to master energy doesn't ever work@MentalHealness
You have great knowledge about narcissism and are a trip to watch. Great personality and you bring humor. Just stop looking at your watch bc looks like you are rushing through the vid which gives us the feeling that you just need to do it instead of wanting to. And also stop talking in circles. Meaning saying the same thing many times over and over. Just trying to help and say things others won't say. Don't take it the wrong way. Regardless you bring great content even if you don't change a thing.
Being in a relationship with a narcissist is like being in a sinking boat. Trying to compare your sinking boat to somebody else's sinking boat doesn't change the fact that the boat sinking and you need to save yourself. It's just an ugly situation to be in and it hurts
Facts!!! And depending on what kind of narc you’re dealing with determines what actions need to be taken in order to save yourself……
All around traumatic experience.😢
… they want all the attention/praise, but none of the potential criticism that comes along with it.
A Malignant Overt Narcissist And He Absolutely Destroyed My Life!!!He Belittled Me Horribly Calling Me Disrespectful Names Highly Manipulative..Narcissistic Abuse Is Brutal..
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You name it, I've dealt with it 33 years. I've seen it all breaking everything in the home and we have a very nice home. Broke my tailbone, choked me tried to have me shot. Turn my kids against me, triangulation, smear campaign, every single thing they can do, he has done. I'm just trying to stay alive before I can get out
Same. Mine was grandiose and physically abusive and had rage fits on everyone. Always losing his damn mind in the smallest stuff🙄
@ I’m So Incredibly Sorry I Hope Your Out Of This Relationship I’m 4 Months No Contact!!
Hate it when they go blahblah boobooboo bibibi
4:23 He peacocked whenever we went anywhere, dressed crazy, played in a band etc... He had characteristics of all of them. No one would've known he was a Narc until they heard the recording as he raged constantly behind closed doors. He was completely different in front of people than he was alone with me. All fake crap! It was a rollercoaster every day, all day. Up, down, left, right - never knew which one I was sleeping next to, waking up with, coming home to, going out with - pure anxiety! A tornado of toxicity and so grateful to be free!! I escaped 6 months ago 💖🙏💖
Hi Lee. You are one in a million, telling people harsh truths and still can make them laugh. You have helped me - and lots of people - a lot on my journey! Thank you so much. You deserve a gold medal for talking in such an honest and authentic way about this topic - which is yours too. You are brave and have a good soul as well. Respect for your journey! You have made the best of it, teaching us from your knowledge, showing yourself - in order to help us. I am truly thankful ♡ hello from Germany. Nina
Thank you so much
Oh yes Lee my ex narc was a covert narc his mask would come off behind closed doors.
A few times he would go into hiding & go quiet.
Think my x is a Covert. I'm in the process of leaving. When he flew into his narcissistic rages would say I was triggering his ptsd. I would call bs. Made his rages worse. Absolutely amazing how manipulative open mouth lie rolls out, breathe his lies roll out. How well they can deflect when confronted and Absolutely an attention seeker, needing to be all about him. So glad my eyes are open. Trama bonds are real. Thank you Lee you've helped so much.
Both. Covert is more creepy 😳 😬 😐 and scary 😨 😳 😬
HELLA creepy, and weird too 😮💨
I'm a narcissist magnet I've been with them all.
🤦🏽♀️ You SOOOO on point 🎯💯💯💯I can’t wait to submit my request to come on your show because this ish right here is CRAZY!!!! My testimony will shake you but you are SPOT ON🫨😵💫🥴
😂 You are hilarious and informative at the same time
I appreciate that
I agree. You make me laugh. It's necessary in healing. You're the only channel I watch anymore on this topic, and after I'm better, I'll say goodbye❤@@MentalHealness
My mom was a covert narcissist , and I had husband's who were overtert narcissist. When mothers set this up for you, one falls for overert narcissists. You help me heal. It's a long battle, but I am surviving.
Same!!!!!😢 turned me into such a people pleaser
Was with and ended up with a covert Narcissist from the age of 14. I was the man and ended up staying home and being a homeschool dad to our 4 kids we ended up having. I dedicated my life to this women and our children. 2 years ago I lost a lot of weight on my own and started improving myself and I figured out who she was. I made a lot of mistakes when trying to leave and for the first time in my life I was arrested and jailed and now I am a registered felon on misdameanor and felony probation. My house, my kids, all my things have been in her control for over the last year. I am essentially homeless and trying to fight my way back. No one will hire me because no work history and now a felony record. Men, please be careful in these relationships they are dangerous. I am having to restart everything at 39 years old.
Loud. Bold. got to have the best! Ex always said when we were out "I'm used to being the most good looking guy in the rm. I've been dealing with this my whole life." 😑😬🙄
Your humor is a blessing! Thank you for making me laugh my way through my healing!
Thank you for being so vulnerable and honest about your NPD. It really is so helpful. 💙
Both types are toxic but the Covert narcissist are the waste. They’re more insidious. They hide behind a cover of kindness or victim hood while manipulating controlling lying and abusing those closest to them. They’re devious..I was married to one. He physically abusive but when I told former friends about they assumed I provoked it. They thought he was too nice to abuse his wife. It took me decades to realize it wasn’t all my fault. I was seeing the real him while he showed others his persona. Lee Hammond videos have helped me gain clarity on narcissism. But when you see those red flags 🚩 run 🏃♂️.
Mine is both 😢 he rages and he's edgey.... silent treatment AND anger rages.
I feel like a lot of coverts are always going through crisis. Their crisis makes them think they can use that to avoid accountability. I notice narcissists tend to be "friends". Birds of a feather, flock together.
My life has been destroyed by this overt violence
Stay strong
All I know is that within 6 months of the relationship he was verbally abusive. He was disrespectful to my mother and my children. He had a friend of mine turn on me. He would start arguments. What a lesson I learned. Do NOT let them rush you into anything. Watch for the red flags.
It took 90 days ... For me ... He tried to disrespect and devalue me he was the mix of covert overt and grandiose ..
Not the chopper 😂😂😂😂 I met mine in a beat up BMW, first red flag 🚩 “ her ex damaged her car” I should have ran then 🏃🏾♀️ 😂😂, I still love to listen 👂🏾 even though I’m out of my situation
my ex is definitely an overt narcissist... always dressing in flashy clothes wants to be the life of the party... wants to have people over often...never accountable for anything. it's sad
Also to add to your point, a person can be introverted *and* be someone who has a platform, can perform on stage, can be bubbly and expressive. Introverted just refers more to how someone recharges their batteries and how they often present in their personal lives.
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Wow about the pastor, just the whole idea that a person would be this way, and that it has a whole title in years under its belt that people like me never knew existed.
The aura overt narcissist give off is that of confidence which is usually what attracts the other person because most people that are with narcissists are codependent and have low self esteem aka low confidence but the funny part is that they are overt because they lack the confidence it’s like fake it till you make it
Unfortunately both. Overt and covert in my family. In friendships, they have been covert.
LEE I THOROUGHLY ENJOYED THIS VIDEO😂😂😂😂😂😂!
Mom (egg donor) was a covert sis (snake) was a overt and ex (demon) was an overt too. And my ex husbands former wife (mud slinger) was an overt too
Have you only been in one relationship with a narc or do you see yourself attracting narcs to your life? I've counted about 5 narcs x-gf. I'm still undecided about my mom and one of my sisters. Dont want to believe my mom might be a narc. 😒
@@joeoreo2498 Romantic relationship? I only had one. My ex husband. Familial relationships I may have had more. There's definitely something in us that attracts the narcissist to us. They can smell us from miles away. Overtime I realize how important it is to set boundaries with them. They've just gotten so used to walking all over us
I had both but the overt ones will bring u a bag of high blood pressure good topic keep it going Lee 😢😂😂❤❤
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What about the narcissist that can switch between all types depending on who he needs to manipulate. Changing like an actor in a movie even playing the victim or playing dumb, talking in a different tone of voice when needed
This narcissist can fool anyone anywhere and is confident and proud of the ability to do so. Also very confident believing he is so good-looking, Ladies watch out because he thinks all women are stupid and are the easiest to fool
My narcissistic ex-wife got a Benz and can't pay her rent 🤦🏾♂️
My ex did the same and he doesnt have a place to sleep.
I definitely believe my ex a cross between Covert and Communal narc traits...he would definitely come off loud boisterous and mean at times...and use to love volunteering when it was beneficial for him...he only did it to get praise and something free
Coverts cause more of the crazy feeling for you. No one believes you if you tell them what they are capable of. You think it is all you.
My x-narcissistic 304 gf is a covert. Everyone likes her and she is very attractive but only if they knew she a 304.
I have dated both types! Covert and Overt narcissists
Very informative thankyou.😢
both
COVERT …. That’s exactly what my soon to be ex-husband is/was.
I have an Audi!😂 I’m not the narcissist though. I’m the enabler 🤦🏽♀️
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Yes, there are core traits but that they arent exactly going to act the same . I dealt with both. Ex- husband overt and ex- boyfriend covert. Covert can be more damaging to a woman's mental health. But both are bad. The covert ex- boyfriend was willing to seek therapy because he wanted to know why he acted the way he did. He started going to therapy after I gave him a covert narc test. He scored high for covert narc traits. Yes,they can go between the two - my covert did. My ex- husband WOULD never go to therapy because he does not think anything is wrong with him. My overt would belittle when he couldnt dominant or get what he want while My covert never belittled, although was passive aggressive and assumed alot.
My ex narcissist is a culvert and my mother is a culvert very manipulative and sneaky✌️ No contact
I didn’t know the term codependent or narcissist until now
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Exactly I didn’t know I was dealing with
You got it now
I was codependent and she was a narcissist and I enjoyed every moment until she got bored of me. It shattered my paradigm and I am still grieving.
They should have Narc Olympics, now that would be hilarious 😂😂😂😂
smh blah blah boo boo boo beep beep beep 😆gets me Everytime 😅
Pastor Lee 😂😂😂
I think mine is both at times after 33 years. Looking at it, he's got both.Is that possible
Overt your right
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My ex was a little of both
That happens
I was love bombed and I’m broken
Time to heal
Helicopter 😂
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 LEEEE
Why does a narcissist date a narcissist and do they know they are narcissist
Not certain
they typically blame each other for the relationship.
Well, if you feel empathy, but you're just mirroring them, they can't feel empathy. So, you know that you're not a narc, you can pick up some tendencies along the way just because you try to master energy doesn't ever work@MentalHealness
@ is there an alpha narcissist and a sub?
I call it look at me syndrome 😂
A sociopathic one
What is the difference aren't the all the same don't they drink out the same water fountain ⛲?
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@MentalHealness I say that cause I'm trying to know the difference 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@MentalHealness no shade at u 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Is there such thing as a F face narcissist? Thats the kind I've dealt with lol or the whiny narcissist.
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@@MentalHealness 😂
What does MPD mean
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If you meant NPD it’s narcissistic personality Disorder
Multiple Personality Disorder
@ Thankyou
She went to church with me
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You have great knowledge about narcissism and are a trip to watch. Great personality and you bring humor. Just stop looking at your watch bc looks like you are rushing through the vid which gives us the feeling that you just need to do it instead of wanting to. And also stop talking in circles. Meaning saying the same thing many times over and over. Just trying to help and say things others won't say. Don't take it the wrong way. Regardless you bring great content even if you don't change a thing.