It's a fantastic saw. Matched with the 24" bar, it has perfect balance. It's become my favorite saw in the mix. For anyone that's thinking of getting one buy the 'high end' version.
@maxdragon15 typically all of the Farmmac branded saws are the end versions. They typically have better performance parts as in the carb ignitions and a few other parts that normally would be Chinese clone parts, they will use some actual oem parts and such. That is the extent that I know about them. Ric
Just got mine from Amazon the other day....WHAT A ......BEAST. ONCE I figured out how to start it. I actually have to kneel over top of it and pull start mine.. with a 1 by 3 piece off wood to hold the handle down. If you all can visualize that. It LOVES THE PRE MIX 50 : 1 TRU FUEL. I AM REALLY IMPRESSED. I do have a 24 inch bat on mine. I will say this. The bar oil cap did not shut and lock down. No Biggy. I just happen to have some stihl saws that use the same bar oil cap. Plus I went and orderd some more caps and I did go ahead and buy another chain too...
That's awesome! Funny the oil cap on ours acts the same way. I have found that one of the pieces on the floating ring seems a little loose and working with it it will work but takes patience. I have several 70+cc saws and wondered if we just received a really tight tolerance unit. I suppose it just goes to show that Neo-tec is really stepping up the power/quality wars! We are running 40:1 in ours now but I'll mix some 50:1 and let it rip! We have ran 24 and 28 inch bars maybe one day we will put a 36 inch on it and see how much torque it has? Glad you are enjoying it, please let us know how it works for you! All the best! Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing! Ric
@Cornucopia Farmstead Great video! yes, please make a video with the 36" bar. I have 2 big maples to cut and the 28" bar may be just a little small. Thanks
I recently sold this saw and a plank mill with it. I had a fella that needed to mill a fair amount of wood and rather than let him borrow it for an extended period of time, he just decided to make me an offer on it. Saw still runs great and is still in great condition. Gonna miss it as the ergonomics on that saw work really well for my stature. I’m pretty sure he is going to mod the saw but that’s fine as it is his now. I can’t complain about these saws blue or orange, for people that need an alternative they sure do fit the bill well. Thanks for commenting, Ric
The breather lets air in, as the fuel is used, it creates a vacuum and it draws air in but wont let fuel out. The sprung flap on filter is the choke. One flick up on control is actually little more than half throttle lock
It's been 9 months. Just curious how it's holding up and if it ran better after break in. It seems to have about the same power as my 15 year old Husky 455.
Love it! The comment that is, I have some great older saws too that also run well compared to newer saws. In this vid it was running on heavy oil fuel for break in. I ran it for I think 3 tanks but I don't remember exactly how many then switched it to 40 to 1 fuel and leaned it out from there. It does run much higher and quicker now and is used primarily along side the 892 Neo-tec too. For felling and bucking I use the 872 and 892. When they are new as you could see In this vid it was rich the entire time as this was the first time it was ran and exactly how it came out of the box. Many folks have asked to run them straight out of the box and that's what we did with this and many others. Even full rich it has loads of torque as you see from the vid and yes ran slow(because it was on 25/1)). Does it run better and faster now absolutely, was it inhibited before, if you know about fuel mixture then you understand what I am talking about. But yes it ran well then and runs harder and faster now. I do believe they are built well and for someone who has price concerns but also needs performance it is a great option. We just have started using the Neo-tec ns843 which is a copy of the husky 543xp, it runs very well and is a great ground and trim saw. We have been using it for a couple of weeks now both here and at work and is a surprising saw at a very good price compared to other options. Anyway I hope this helps clear the air, we aren't married to any brand but just look for better options value and performance for our and others needs. Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing, love the huskies too ! Ric
@@whatsupdocchemdog5994 I think it is related to the brown color. Back in the 80's and 90's Husqvarna actually had either a brown white or gray top on most of there saws, the bottoms were always orange, not the orange they have today but a darker shade like these have. I have an old Husqvarna 44, it has the brown top and the old orange. It was my goto saw for limbing. 16 inch bard and 40 cc's. That little saw rips, it is a bit heavy but still runs well today. When one of the boys wants a keep they will get it first! Thanks for commenting! Ric
John I apologize for the delay, life happens round here. I can post a pick on the community page with the clutch cover and bar off, it will show the dogs mounted to the case. Ill also pull one of the 2 screws out and place it next to a ruler so you can see the length. Hope this will help. Ill do it later this evening as i am still cutting today. Ric
I bought the ns872i. It ran great from the factory. After i ran it a couple of times I took it apart, modded the muffler, installed a lightened pop up piston and now it really freakin screams. Ill probably port it next but its running about as strong as my 660 already. The 872i feels like it will be a great saw for a long time
We actually have 2 g660's. Haven't touched them since we have gotten this 872. Not that the 660 is a bad saw, this 872 is just a bit better in a few ways. I don't have a problem with our blue saws, but for now this orange saw is winning the war for me. Both are great values. More run Tim then a side by side will answer more questions for sure! Thanks for commenting 👍and subscribing! Ric
It’s a 380…52mm over 34mm or 70cc… the g660 is a 066… 92cc size saw so it should have way more power? I love the 372’s with the 52mm and I add the Hyway 52mm popup piston topend and make them 76.4cc’s …closer to the Stihl ms460’s… That’s a great looking saw… I just really prefer the design simplicity of the husky 372’s with the bigger 52 topend with the popup they are ripper’s… pull the 28” bar with the straight ripper mod!!! It’ll pull a 36 with skipper chain!!! I really appreciate that you tear into it!!! I think I might get one to try.,, I need to check it’s price???
Instead of reaching around and grabbing the chain like that…rest it on the stump and lift the rear handle… then you can tighten the nuts… no cuts and not all stretched out…👍😁. I love that you are using the leg lock start technique! Great for people to learn from your video….great video buddy!!!
@@DaveyBlue32 to say I know a lot about chainsaws is probably a stretch. I probably know enough to be dangerous but in that statement I am a huge fan of chainsaws who has always used them more for work than pleasure. I admire those who easily modify there saws( which I seldom ever do)(but keep thinking about it). I admire them all too, and like a stray take one in if they find there way here!(I actually this week accepted a challenge to repair one to receive 4 other broke saws! So yes 4 broke saws are rest here at home now!) Thank you for the wonderful time sharing comment, thanks for 👍and subscribing! As for cost, there is a link in the description for this saw, ours came from Amazon also, I think around 370 for the powerhead only. Ric
We have the first generation 872, it isn't the 872I, I know some folks like the 872I but I haven't found any issues with this first gen, has plenty of power and works great! I've milled with smaller 50cc saws before and they just consume to much fuel and take wayyyyy to long. The 872 will be a great milling saw for sure. Consider using and auxiliary oiler if your cut time exceeds 3 minutes, that is a safe bet. Enjoy your milling and saw, thanks for commenting and subscribing! Ric
@@CornucopiaFarmstead Just to give you a six month update...I have milled hundreds of feet of maple, walnut, ash, and hackberry now with the NS872. Still going strong. I also bought a 36" bar and chain for milling, which I know is sold for a bigger saw, but I'll tell you what, this saw had no problem pulling that big bar through a 30" diameter maple log. I still haven't made an auxiliary oiler, but I'll probably do that this summer. Thanks again for the review. I'm very happy with it.
Just ordered it. Have a huge Camphor tree stump to remove and my Ryobi RY3714 not up for the task. Cheaper than the Echo Timberwolf. We'll see about durability.
I just had to order a NEO-TEC NS8105 42 inch Gas ChainSaw because of Hurricane Ian. There was no way possible I was going to pay $1500 + for a Stihl. I own a 16" Stihl but had a Goliath live oak that a tornado brought down during Hurricane Ian. The 16" Stihl just would not be able do the job at the trunk. Plus I now have free lumber, be stupid not to buy a chainsaw mill for a littler over a $100 and cut my own oak lumbar such as 2 x 4 or 2 x 6... Whenever I say Goliath live oak I mean just that it's huge. Mine was delivered today so hopefully it does the job. Thank you for the review.
My friend. Bless you and your loved ones. We are happy you are alive and well and thankful you can not only start the recovery process but also, make use of what was left behind. I can't say a word that would describe how fortunate you are and we just hold on to hope that others are as fortunate as you. I'm glad this helps in the recovery and it is a case such as this where you are 100%right, $1500 is alot of money just for a saw, but clone saws fill the gap and that is all the difference in the world. The 8105 is a great saw, just keep oil and fuel in it, then all you need is wood chips! Best of luck to your recovery and thanks for commenting! Ric and Mel
Hey there JB. This saw was the first Neotec we got , I think, can’t say for sure now but it has been a while. I had used it for milling at the beginning of 2024 a friend saw it setting on the bench and asked if I would sell it the way it is(mill and all), I ended up selling it and he kept going with it. Saw was never modded and had the original bar still in place. Couldn’t complain. Anyway to answer you second question the pocket knife. If you go to Walmart or even on line, you can find the folders and sometimes full tang short blades for less than $5 bucks sometimes even $4. They are always super sharp and surprisingly durable too. Plus you don’t fret to much if you lose or misplace it. All the best, Ric
Yes , that was actually a knife that came with a Milwaukee sheet rock saw. I remember it now. It was great when new but not so much as it aged. The blade is a very hard steel and is not the easiest to sharpen. It had decent hand holding ergonomics but once it became dull it was very hard to get to a nice edge again. I eventually stuck it to a grinder and put a feather edge on it which made it better to sharpen but did mean it would dull quicker. It came in a bundle during Christmas years back and really doesn’t get used hardly at all anymore, unfortunate. A Milwaukee disappointment. Ric
I was running my Echo chainsaws today. CS 7310 p and my cs800 p in my echo 590 0 timberwolf. I didn't have a chance to unbox it yet the new chainsaw from neotec but the bar didn't come in today. It's supposed to be a 24-in bar.
I ordered that neotec 872 last Wednesday. The powerhead came in Saturday morning. The bar came in today April 4th. Well when I pulled the side cover off. The bar tensioner didn't work very well. It was missing a screw. Had to go to the hardware store. I put some good Grease on the bar adjuster. It doesn't work very well. I'm going to order a OEM bar adjuster from steel. It started up on the third pull. I also pulled the clutch apart. Put some grease on the needle bearing.
I agree totally on the bar adjuster, mine was similar but the screw holder was in place, I tried several different fabs on the stock adjuster but will ultimately just replace the adjuster with an oem unit unless Neo-tec can make and improvement which I hope they will! All in all I still can't complain, they aren't perfect but few things in life are these days! Thanks again for commenting bud, stay safe and happy sawing! Ric
Yeah,that will be a great saw for milling. I have used ours for stumps mostly, one time I did put a long bar on it just to round out a tree not bending over. I don't recommend that, unless you are more prepared than me! That was a little much holding and operating such a large unit cutting every 18 inches. I was pretty tore up after that! They are great for the price, and though not equal(but close) on performance or even quality, they are great options for folks who need the power and size saw. If the break or blow up you can still repair them for less than what you would have in the oem brands. We have ran these Neo-tec saws for about a year and a half now. We haven't had any major issues with any of them, but also they are well cared for and all still stock with no modifications. We have had little issues with a bolt here or there, one had an air filter issue but really that's about it. Worth the cost and will likely last linger than I will ever need. That's my 2 cents. Thanks for commenting! Ric
I ran a 038 mag2 for years, this looks and works like a good clone. Note: those roping chips make a great fire starter, I put a kitty liter bucket full of them for ever customer that bought 3 cords or more from me. I later gave dried pitch from stump cuts.
Yes sir, 038/380 is a great saw. It is a popular older model to clone for sure. This was Neo-tec's first clone I believe for mass. They produce parts for repair then started making full saws much like FT. As for this one I can't say for the other makers of the same model but can say compared to many equivalent saws it isn't bad at all. This is the first gen 380 from Neo-tec and also the lowest in response or power compared to the newer gen saws from them of the same model. I personally have never had a problem with it while it was used heavily for a year. They came out with a new line called Farmmac with a higher end or performance version of the same model. It is substantially better in all categories though, I would say it is much improved which leads to the higher performance while only just a touch more in cost. As for the Firestarter we do the same thing, pine or cedar works best for us and is kept dry. We pull dust and chips off our saw mill too and is used for garden and fire aid too. Carbon is a good thing if used appropriately! Thanks for commenting! Ric
New to owning a home and a chainsaw, I got a huge stump to cut down and was wondering when you say that it will provide more power with the mixture. 40:1 vs 25:1
Good luck...hopefully it's long lasting great video tho. I'm a Stihl or Husqvarna person myself been using them over forty years...can't beat them in my mind...great track record with these two brands. Shoe
Yes sir, been using those 2 brands myself for a number of years. Thanks Shoe. Just wanted an altnernative for more saw for less money. Couldn't afford the Husky or Stihl, so went to the next best option. Thanks for watching.
They are two different companies. Both of them make parts for basically all types of outdoor hand power equipment. Neotec is a newer supplier than Farmertec but they basically make the same or similar equipment, some prefer Neotec some prefer Farmertec, we use them both and give a slight edge to quality for Neotec. I recently sent 3 saws to NC for the cleanup and these saws were already a couple of years old. They are still using them today and will stay with the community for community work in Black mountain area. They are a great alternative for someone who wants the power and good quality but not having to pay the oem prices for the same saws. Most people call them trash and for someone who doesn’t take care of there equipment , anything can be trash. I like them and unless I hit the lottery I’ll never pay the crazy costs for a fancy oem.
I really like your video. I have one of these saws (NS 8721) that is probably an earlier version of your saw I got last year from Amazon. A question I have for you is where can I get replacement parts and possibly a “shop manual” (we used to have TMs in the Army) so I can properly maintain the saw over time? Thanks again for the good review Todd in Ohio
Hey Todd. Thanks for the kind words and question(s). First let me say thank you for serving and thank you for your service. I’m and army brat as my father and grandfather, along with several other elders in the family have served in the military. I appreciate all that who have served and will serve, there is no greater good one can do for country than to serve and protect it. I have never served but have assisted in various forms of training for entities over the years and have been more than happy to do so. As for your question with the saw I would direct you to the Stihl oem manual which you should be able to download off the web. The 872 is a clone of the ms380 saw, all the parts from stihl oem ms380 will work on this saw, albeit they will be substantially more cost than the Neotec parts of which they do offer parts on the website. Our 872 is over 2 years old and is used very often and hasn’t had a freshen yet. I have found high quality 2 stroke oil is largely the best thing you can do to maintain performance other than routine maintenance cleaning after use. I will say when we use equipment most of the bolts are loctited with blue or red loctite, bars chains drive sprockets filters air passages levers triggers pull cord coil, flywheel plug and ignition are cleaned and double checked before and after each use. It is about 1 hour per saw each day just for me to do that. None of our equipment is modified for performance other than adjusting oil mix from either small cc to large cc and from summer use to winter use, this is the only time the oil mix is changed. We have used vp racing synthetic 2 stroke oil for many years and it has never let us down. Used In the power equipment and the dirt bikes, never had a failure. I hope this helps! Thanks for commenting, Ric
Sean I can't say for certain what the differences are but can tell you only what I have read. I believe the "I" has an upgraded ignition as one of the main parts and also has several smaller upgrades that don't result in much of a change. Like the little 25cc top handle, I use this 872 , g5800 and the 892 as my primary saws cutting today. Firewood season is hot and heavy so they are getting lots of use!. Thanks for commenting, Ric
The bar is resting in a gun rack made to be mounted on round tubing. It is also used to hold various tools such as shovels and whatever else we use taking care of our farmstead. The atv is a much more useful tool than a Utv as it is more capable in precarious situations and much easier to keep from rolling over you in hilly terrain. Utvs are great on mostly flat or slight incline but they are generally too bulky in most situations. The atv is used daily and generally has more hours used on a day to day basis than my daily driver truck. Thanks for commenting! Ric
I too am curious about the chain and or bar being almost out of adjustment when new? Is the bar the correct length and it was just a too long chain? Thanks for your review!
I run the chains looser on there first voyage. What people are seeing is the angle we shot that folks couldn't see what I was actually doing with the bar placing them over the adjustments pin. Other than that indo actually run my chains very loose in the beginning to prevent over stretching. I hope this helps! Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
I can't speak for longevity and service yet,but I do know part's are available direct from Neo-tec via Amazon or one could simply install the Stihl part's on this particular saw. We have conversations about this saw and the NH841 and the manufacturer is wanting to build and provide a great product. They are currently developing both a website along with social media pages to provide better access for customers. This is something we have expressed to them that is needed rather than just an Amazon store front. We have currently used both saws a couple hours each week since we have had them. Any issues or problems we have with them we will share here while also letting the manufacturer know also. So far so good and a very good value for sure! Thanks for commenting 👍and subscribing! Please share! Regards, Ric.
I'll have mine Monday. The comparable Echo costs $1000. I have a stump from a 50' Camphor tree and it's massive. If this helps get this cut down enough to pull the rest out of the ground it will be well worth it. Camphor trees have a massive shallow root system which can damage property and plumbing. It is an invasive species which will crowd out other trees and vegetation.
If the 892 is anything like this 872, I'm sure you will be pleased with it if you decide on purchasing it. The 872 runs very well and the build quality is very nice also. Each of these we have are used at least 3 days a week since fall has came. We have several farmertec saws we were using prior to these. Neo-tec sent us ours to review and provide feedback/development for them. Compared to the blue saws they are easily an equal while also having better qualities in other areas. Overall, for the price they are hard to beat! Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing! Please share! Ric
You don't need to push the decomp EVERY time you pull the rope. Only when it pops (tries to start) does it have enough pressure to push the plug back out
This entire time I have been (years)pushing the decomp every time! Figures! Lol, thanks for the tip, I'll likely still press it every time, the one time I don't I'll snap the cord with my luck!
@@CornucopiaFarmstead if the decomp valve does pop out when it doesn't try to start. You have a faulty decompression valve And it actually causing the saw to run a bit lean causing a minor "air leak"
Thank you for the info, I didn't know that and will keep that in mind! I haven't noticed a lean condition yet and hope we don't! I suppose going to an oem husky or stihl decomp might be the best option to keep from burning a hole in pistons! Thank you sir!
@@CornucopiaFarmstead On the other side, not using the decomp often enough can make it corrode and even snap off if the corrosion is localized, as I've seen it happen to users on arboristsite. I personally use it every time, it's not for my hand or shoulder, but it makes it easier on the starting mechanism and all the plastics in there.
@@em4703 I am of the thought whenI have it I will use it anyway. Decomps serve several functions, with primary function being simply making the starting process easier and causing less damage to person and equipment. As long as it serves a functional purpose I'll use it. I have nothing to prove from that point of view and enjoy the functionality of my moving joints I guess you would say. Lol. Having said that, modern 4 stroke and 2 stroke equipment have auto decompression built in they just haven't made it to hand equipment yet! Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
Ya know if I had a 20 I would try it just to see but I'm sure it would scream and might even have to be richened up to compensate for the increased speed, I'm sure that would make quick work of anything!
Isn't Neotec a Holtzfformer rebranded? I use a few Holtzfformer saws and have had good luck with the 55cc plus models but the little stihl copys of the ms170 an 180 are not much just like the oem models have been junk so far, great power but every one had a crank seal fail. Cheers Mark.
To my knowledge and conversations with Neo-tec they have no relationship with farmertec. They like several other small equipment manufacturers are parts sellers/kit sellers and now selling complete units. Neo-tec has 4 saws currently 41cc, 72cc, 92cc and 105cc. They have several other units coming down the pipeline. As for the smaller saws the 841 we have been testing is the first sub 50cc saw we have acquired in a long time. We typically only use smaller saws for limbing or in tree work(which we use an echo top handle). At first use the saw isn't bad and the quality/fit and finish is very nice. Before each use all of our equipment is given a nice once over then again once put away.Unless the unit starts to run erratically it won't get tore down and will only have loops oil and fuel put on it. Overall everything is going nicely so far and we hope to keep it that way. If. Or when we have a failure we will share that for the simple fact we aren't paid for any of these videos but rather share these experiences for everyone's own benefit for experience and personal considerations.Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
You got a link to any of the small Holtzffoemer or Farmertec saws like the MS170/180? I can’t imagine buying a copy of the ms170, when brand new at the Stihl dealer they are $179….
Thanks so much! I hope you have enjoyed the differences that this company has compared to the other clone makers, I find they are substantially better all the way around. As for the other saws coming out , yes they have 5 big saws they will be debuting soon hopefully. We have a video coming out that explains what is happening with manufacturers/ing in China right now. The vid will share some details with both Neo-tec and FT along with Branson and TYM tractors too. Please feel free to comment about your experiences with the saw on the vid as the manufacturer does read the comments and they make changes asap. We still use the original ns872 when bucking but I use the f660 now for felling as it is quicker than the old ns892 and has some upgraded components which let the saw just respond better and a slight increase in power. Fast cuts are safe cuts! Thanks for commenting! Ric
Sorry to hear about that first saw. It does happen and could with this one also,but hopefully this and our other saws will work out great! The fit and finish is very surprising on both the 872 and the 841. We have several of the blue saws and I can honestly say they have been great saws with very few issues at all. Receiving these saws has been better than delivery of the blue saws for sure, that is the second biggest difference. The retail packing is much better with Neo-tec for sure and that helps. We will be developing both of these saws and have a few other pieces coming down the pipeline. If the rest of there equipment is as close or better than this? Having said all of that thanks for commenting 👍 and please subscribe and share if you you don't mind! Thanks again , Ric
The chain guard adjustment was missing a screw. Couldn't even adjust the chain adjustment tensioner. It didn't even fit something's wrong in the casting
Yeah that’s a great deal for sure! Ours is used most often for bucking and large limbing, pretty much the farm saw really. Can’t beat the economics behind these! Thanks for commenting, Ric
Yeah that happens some times! We just found your channel about a week ago, looks like you stay pretty busy bud! We stay busy also but tree life is just a small part of it. Just trying to grow the channel and keep our heads above water! Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing! Ric
Hey bud! Sorry to hear the bar didn't come in, with mine I actually got the bar first and then the head a week later. I'm sure some items are here In the US and some are shipping from China also. On the cost that seems to be in line for what we paid too. I do know they have been tremendously low on stock here in the US. I think they have 2 official dealers ,Mathew Wood(he can be found on Facebook and the other dealer is Bluesaws.com, they may be able to provide some insight to how long a delay would be.
I have several stihl and need a bigger saw for some of the larger trees. popular mainly .. but i can't see spending 1,500 plus. looking at the larger unit. ns 8105. any review on that one?
Hey there! Getting through a tree is definitely the most important thing. You can cut anything down with an edge but a saw sure does make it quicker and safer. On trees 30 inches or greater I'll use a 28 inch or sometimes 32,36 for trees up to 46 inch tree which is the largest I have felled. Cutting fast and efficiently for me is where it is at. I like the 92cc saws for big trees and have used the 070 clone for a couple large trees too. We did a vid with the Farmmac f070 which is the upgraded version of the 8105. It has some of the same parts stihl used on the oem 070. I can't say anything about the 8105 simply because I haven't ran one. But the f070 we have is a jewel for sure. I get tickled every time I run it as it just effortlessly cuts and runs! We have a couple long bars for it and I have used the 42 incher buried completely and it didn't slow it down much. This something you can't do unless your making power and torque. The only problem I have with it is the weight. I'm not a big guy and when you put a 42 inch bar on that saw fill I with juice and lube, it's pretty heavy! As for the money, it helps they are affordable. I know people give the clone saws a hard time but not everyone can afford the high end equipment, I know I can't! I hope this helps, I apologize for the delay life illness and weather! Happy New Years and thanks for commenting! Ric
@@CornucopiaFarmstead thanks.. most of the trees i cut for our mill average between 24 to 36 so this will fit the bill. the 361 sthil just lacks power and can only run a 20 inch they say.. just need something with more power!
I haven't used the 872i but do know it is much improved over the 872. I do know many folks are very pleased with the I version! Overall it is hard to beat a good clone saw that also has a great value. For what you have in them, it is alot easier to tolerate if they are damaged too! Thanks for commenting! Ric
It is a great running little saw for sure. I have used it almost exclusively for felling almost 8 months now. In the beginning I used it and the Ns892 but leaned more toward the Ns872 as it was easier to throw around compared to the 892. Other things you can consider are the consumables. But if you prefer the consider the power then that is another new ball of wax. Having said all of this they have came out with a new line which they consider a pro series called FarmMac. They do have improved components which improve performance and some other little details with a slight increase in price. We have made a vid with 2 of the saws I will share the link here ruclips.net/video/ivQ8jcHMjVs/видео.html And then the other 2 saw which are the F372 and F380 will be coming out soon. They have improved performance and other improvements too. Hope this helps! Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing! Ric
Quando tagli quel tronco, non usi tutta la potenza? Perché non vedo tutta questa potenza e velocità nel segare quel tronco. Forse perché sono i primi tagli e quindi non usi tutta la forza?
Yeah I can't fault that either way bud! If you get a chance to checkout one of the Neo-tec saws/bars give them a good look over. 3 to 4 people use our saws here at home on the farmstead. Right now I am the only one maintaining most all of the motorized equipment. But with the saws, bars especially, they take a beating from some of the users which is expected given user experience. Having said that certain bars are for certain users which is just how it is here. I like the stainless bars and prefer a well built bar v/s a laminated low cost bar which doesn't last very long. Anyway, if you get a chance, check out the Neo-tec bar, good stuff! Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing! Happy Thanksgiving Ric
Well it looks like you got a good one that's not what I got in the mail. My neotek ns 872 chainsaw. The chain adjuster didn't even have the screws in it
I am not sure what you are asking but I think you are asking if they make bigger saws for milling? If that is the case they have basically 3 larger saws right now. They have the F660v and the ns892 which are ms660 stihl clones, they also have the f070 and the ns070 which are the ms070 clones, one saw they have recently came out with is the f660bv which is a big bore 660 clone that is 99cc rather than the standard 92cc which is what a 660 is. I haven't ran the newest saw(f660bv) but have the 070 and the 660 clones. They all run well and would mill logs just fine. The 070 runs at a lower rpm and has more torque down low compared to the 660 clone which actually makes about .5 hp more but you turn much more rpms compared to the 070 clone. I hope this answers your questions, thanks for commenting, Ric
I thought I would put a carbide chainsaw blade on it. I was going to open up the oil holes on the bar. So that the bar got plenty of oil. Music for cutting dirty lumber money things like that. What do you think.
Your going in the right direction with the oiler port, I did the same thing with ours. They have a nice drilled slot for the port but I believe it is just a little small and also this makes it easy to clog. I drilled the port to 1/8 inch and was fairly difficult but effective. The standard port is right at 1/16. I believe you have the right idea bud, that stainless is tuff to drill through. As for the carbide ,I have never used carbide tipped teeth for 2 reasons. 1 cost and 2 cost of resharpening. Luckily I have rolls of chain and trees full of nails so I am often just replacing chains, it's almost normal to have to replace a chain every other month unfortunately! One of these days I'll pull the plug and try a carbide tipped chain, I was actually wanting to try a diamond chain on one of these saws for concrete which I know they aren't designed for and would require some fabrication, I really just want to see if these are tough enough to do some "lite" concrete work!
I bought 24-in Echo chainsawbar 2 full chisel chains. Two 28 in chains 93 link. One Red armor Echo two-cycle mix up 5 gallons. One container 5 gallons Echo Red armor. &287.00 dollars. Plus a couple spark plugs air filters. Have to keep everything running good especially the chainsaws.
That's awesome! I have never used the red armor but know many people that do, I have always used the VP racing full synthetic and it has worked well for many many years(plus I have like almost 3 gallons of it on the shelf which should last for many more years!) For the filters consider some grease around the contact area where it surrounds the intake port, I find it helps to catch fine particulate matter. Looks like your ready bud!
Is it true that one difference with the (i) model is that it doesn’t have a decomp? Im trying to decide if I want to save $50 and get the regular one or pay and get the (i). Does the regular one seem good, do you think the (i) one would actually perform or last better?
Honestly I couldn't tell you on that simply because I haven't used the 872i. From what I have seen in other people using the "I" most of them like it better for either power or less quirks. I can say for ours it runs strong and we haven't had any issues whatsoever with it. I wish I could give a better answer for you but I haven't used the "I" or else I could say. Ours runs fine , maybe has 20 hours on it now.
I want this offer cutting dirty lumber. Lumber with spikes in it. I don't want to run my echo CS 7310 p or my 800 Echo. In dirty lumber. The bar is in the chains cost too much. My CS 800 Echo is 5 years old still runs perfect. Starts every time. I'm hoping that this neotec 872 will do its job. I'm not looking for speed I'm looking for reliability. I think if I set it up right the neotech 872. Should be a good chainsaw. With the carbide chain.
Yes sir Popa! We are learning from you sir too! This 872 is a nice machine, we have many plans for these 2 saws for developing in the future. Seem to work really well!
I just got my ns8105. Saw look nice but let me know when you put fuel in it and it starts leaking fuel real bad from bottom of your fuel tank i like DAM that's BS
Yeah man that is BS. Did you send it back? I would have. It does happen, hasn't happened to us yet with a NT but has happened with a FT saw we purchased here from a state side seller. We actually kept the malfunctioning saw and they sent us another saw to replace it. I repaired the first saw a short time after. Things happen and Is unfortunate. Hate to hear that but they can and I'm sure will make it right for you bud. Thanks for sharing and commenting, people should know and that isn't a problem with me either, I'll tell and show what we get and one can see how they work for us. Ric
I try to return they say no return no refundable cause of safety that's bs now im stuck with a FUP saw don't do me no good. Cost me. $589 waste, all i own is huscavana and stilh and i never have problem, so i thought i give a try tec saw but i got screw not refundable and im being ignore
@@jawdouan4509 if I were you I would contact them on there Facebook page then the website and try to settle the problem. They normally resolve problems if they are in the warranty period. That's what I would do if I were you bud.
@@jawdouan4509 yes that is bad. I can only suggest that you keep trying to contact them. If it is out of warranty they won't issue a refund or a replacement, if it is still in warranty they I am sure would take care of it, that is what warranty is for. Good luck bud.
Sorry for the delay there! Hard to keep up from time to time. This was the first Neo-tec saw we ran and does have the most running hours of the Neo-tec and Farmmac. While it isn't used as often as it used to be it does get pulled out from time to time. I ran it for around 6 months really often and haven't had any issue with it since the beginning. I believe this is the first generation ns872 also. I know reading on Facebook and some comments on our channel I believe this saw is the one that has had the most trouble. People have said it is down on power, nuts or bolts being loose and chain not staying tight. I can't verify any of these simply because I don't have any of those in front of me. I can tell you about ours though. I would estimate it has around 40 to 45 hours of use. It has used 3 complete chains, meaning they have been sharpened to end of use. I honestly did not expect it to perform the way it did, much like the FT saws, the clone saws are a great value but also sometimes can be a luck of the draw too. Knock on wood ours haven't had any major issues , including this saw. I think the 70cc saws are great simply because they are great all around. They are fast for felling but also great for bucking. Compared to the larger cc saws they are much easier to handle for long days holding and cutting. The ergonomics of the 70cc saws are only slightly larger compared to the 50cc saws. I believe they are a great compromise if you just want to run one saw. We have many many saws so we cycle the saws out many times. One thing to note is that on all of the equipment we use it is all maintained very well but also cleaned and prepped for use after each day. We don't modify any of our equipment and this helps for longevity too. Thanks for commenting, Ric.
Thanks for the video. I'm thinking about getting one. I haven't been able to find out what kind of warranty they have. Do you have any information about that?
Good evening Charles and Happy New Years! Sorry to reply so late! To my knowledge the homeowner use is 6 months and the commercial warranty is 3 months. Purchasing on Amazon they also have either a 30 day or 45 day return policy also, but don't take my word for it as I am not certain on this. Having said all of that, if you have never owned a large CC saw please do your research on any saw 70cc's and above. They use a lot of fuel oil bar and chain's. What I'm saying is they get the work done quick but they go through some consumables! If time or big wood/milling is what you are wanting to do, 70cc's and above is what you need to be holding in your hands. I hope this helps, have a great and safe evening. Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing! Ric
I wish they would have sent the cheap version to you instead of the ns872i which is the up grade with the walbro carb and other upgrades . Mine came with all the cheap parts .and I would have not bought it if I had known other wise . If you are going to sell stuff for them they need to be straight up with you . Mine has been junk so far
Unfortunately I don't think you can have a fair comparison between the 2 saws. The 572 is of the latest technology along with an auto tune carb/ignition, this 872 doesn't have the same tech. If you were to eliminate the differences I would still give the edge to the husky for the simple fact it is based on the old 372 saw which has lead the field for many decades. If price was no issue then I would hands down be 100% Husqvarna even over Stihl. But, price being an issue, I am going to Neo-tec, which is what we have done. As for it being made in China, that isn't an issues either. Most things many people use daily are from China and every nation in the world has problems we don't like talking about. Hope this helps. Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing ! Merry Christmas! Ric and Mel
It took 5 days to get the complete chainsaw here. I let it warm up really good. Ran it half throttle let it cool down idle. Ran it through a few heat cycles. Shut it off let it cool down completely. I had some 24-in rounds they had to have 10 inches cut off of them. Then I noodle in half. I had to set the high idle on it. And the low idle. It started out and ran just fine. Just a little doggy. I'm impressed it's a good saw.$405 delivered that was taxes and delivery.
Sounds awesome! I would rather be on the rich side than lean side any day! Proper breaking is essential for long life but it seems you already know that. Typically we will run 2 tanks of fuel and maybe 3 tanks of oil then go to either 40 or 50:1 mixture. For the cost , to me, it is hard to pass up what you get for the money. They not only do the job but do it well! Stay safe continue with the break-in and happy cutting! Ric
Yes, totally different company, no relationship at all. They share no components whatsoever. From our discussions they have a plan to be better than farmertec. In comparison, we have both companies saws chains and bars. As of right now we like what we see from Neo-tec in direct comparison. If the vid wasn't so long we would highlight the differences, but that would be a very long video. From packaging to finished components, Neo-tec is in the lead for sure in my opinion.
Not a problem, we are trying to work out a program to provide development, Stull up in the air right now. From our end we like what we see from the product side and from the price point side. We believe they have a great product at a great price and alternative for sure! Still up in the air for sure but we will see where it goes. We do have more usage vids coming with each saw which will show 15-20 hours use to this point.
Yes, we brought up the web site a few weeks ago, they are developing that right now. They have a web store on Amazon (parts and kits from here too)that has more information than anything. They are waiting on inventory to arrive here and do have some equipment but, like the rest of the world have the same struggle as the rest of us. They are working on the web page along with some new equipment coming out soon too. Stay tuned or hopefully you will see it here also. We will share what we find out along with how our equipment runs and works out. Keep in touch! Ric
Which saw did you purchase? I find I use the 872 the most from an ergonomics stand point, for cutting big rounds it does just fine. The 892 is just a hoss of a saw and on my small frame it is alot for me to lug around. Please drop us a line and share your thoughts. If you are on Facebook I believe Neo-tec has a couple of pages there too, the website is still a work in progress but from what I have been told will be finished soon. Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing! Ric
@@bentwedgestanleybrand5818 Amazon says that the 872 is 9 kg (19.85lb)! Elsewhere on the internet it says the same mostly, 9.5 kg once, and 6kg once. Considering the Stihl ms-381 is so much less weight, is this correct?? Farmtec's clone is not this much.
Hello Romania! I sent the manufacturer a direct message to your question. As soon as they respond I will have an answer for you! Thanks for commenting 👍and subscribing! Regards, Ric.
@@EcSsAwS yeah, we like the joncutter also. We have the g5800 which we purchase last year. It's a nice saw ,I don't think it is built as well as these Neo-tecs , but it us a good saw. The larger saws(Neo-tec), in my opinion are pretty good saws, I would go as far to say they are built better than the blue saws, we will know more once we have another to compare. Impressed so far for sure!
@@EcSsAwS ok thanks a lot for answer.Now i'm interesed If this type of chainsaw is available for sale in Romania.Once again thanks for your answer.Have a nice day and greetings from Romania!
Hey Brian. I believe a full wrap bar is available as this is the same saw compared to the ms380 or ms038. With the type of cutting I do a full wrap bar isn't needed. I do have 3 full wrap saws all of which are ms440,460 and 660. I do have a Neo-tec 892 which is the same as the ms660. Hope this helps! Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing! Ric
Ours were all ordered off of Amazon bud. I left 2 phone numbers for the service center in one of the comments you left. You should be able to find some help from one of those folks.
I got the husky 872 on the way. 372xp clone. It was 180 dollars for the powerhead on Amazon. Ridiculous low price. A comparison vid would be cool. The husky has a higher advertised hp. I look at it as an inexpensive toy to modify.
Yeah the 872 is a great running saw. I used ours for almost 2 years and just recently sold it to a fella who is going to use it for milling. Most folks get these for the exact reasons you mention plus for just one time storm clean up. At the end of the day they are very close, maybe within 75/80% of the oems depending on the actual head you get. We haven’t modded any of our saws but I have seen and ran many that have. Most folks alter the timing(flywheel) or they change the port timing numbers, install the oem ignition coil(probably the best and quickest for the most power). If you did all of these to the 372 clone you are still less than half the cost of the old 372 or even greater less than the new 572. I can tell you our 872 even when I sold it is a great running saw and rock solid reliable for us, not that they all will but still for the cost, it is hard to beat! As for comparison other than some older 600cc and less oem saws we don’t have the larger nor could afford them. It would be nice but just isn’t in the cards! All the best and drop a line when you run your new saw! Ric
This saw is basically the stihl ms380 which was sold in Europe only I believe. I know that replacement parts from the stihl ms380 will bolt right up with this saw. It wasn't a North American selling product. Very good running saw we have here. Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing! Ric
Stihl 038 Magnum was sold in the US, when stihl went to the MS380/ 381 they were not sold in the US as they would not meet emissions. Many Ms380/381 parts swap to the 038 Mag (I've been down this rabbit hole trying to find parts for a 038 Mag). From what I understand is the 380/381 followed the 038 magnum in being high compression and high torque saws. Not as fast chain speed but alot of grunt. The 038 Magnum was a 72 CC saw
Yes unfortunately I is the case. In speaking with the manufacturer he has said they are on the way but the current logistics issues are effecting products landing. Hopefully they will arrive soon and if they tell us a date we will follow up. Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing! Ric
Amazon says that the NS 872 is 9 kg (19.85lb)! Elsewhere on the internet it says mostly the same, but also 9.5 kg once, and 6kg once. I don't believe the 9kg, but not sure about the 6kg either. Anyone have an actual weight?! Thanks.
In discussions with the manufacturer they are awaiting products to both leave and arrive in the US. As of last week they had a shipment on the way but hasn't landed yet. Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing! Ric
Hell yeah brother, Stihl gotta get with the program and quit making the levers multi purpose! Pull this push that and oh, by the way, move it all the way up and that's your stop switch too! Lol. Rip it brotha!
@@CornucopiaFarmstead .. hahaha...that's the way the 038 and 028 stihls was ...the choke was built into the filters.. probably other Stihl models of they era was like that too🤙🏻
One-hundred-percent positive actually spoke to the manufacturer several different bars one of them is a steel bar that is laminated the other two bars are both stainless steel one is laminated and one is actually milled so it is a solid stainless steel bar that has been milled but yes I'm 100% positive and we have been working with the manufacturer on not only developing these saws but some new saws that are in the works! Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing! Ric
I got to say very nice fit and finish but the price is almost too good, Are these from the farmertec factory do you know.... i originally didnt think so....
To my knowledge they are a separate company and have no relation to Farmertec at all. They have 4 saws total and are developing new equipment right now which we are waiting on also. On this saw it is actually better than what we have with all of our units from the blue brand. Really impressed with what we have right now. We will continue to use and develop these saws and see how they run through. Incidentally, my first track bike was an '89 fzr400----- good stuff bud, I'll check these videos out! Thanks for commenting and subscribing!
The decomp os fine and has never malfunctioned on this saw. I know many people say that they replace the decomp and a couple other things on many of the clone saws. But no, we don't have one that has any malfunctions other than the f372 seems to oil at a lowe rate than expected. Thanks for commenting! Ric
I cant find this saw anywhere on amazon. As a matter of fact I came back and edited my comment. I cant find this saw anywhere even when searching google.
They have an Amazon store front which can be a challenge to find. But once at the store front all there products are located there. If you can give it a moment to load it is a long page. Following is the link direct to the ns872,again, it should land in the country in less than 14 days now. They have kits available but I do not believe they have the built saws yet. www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08TT6BNL9/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8 Hope this helps, Ric
I don't know that it is affiliated with tsumura but I can say the bars from Neo-tec are pretty impressive as far as I'm concerned. They aren't laminated but appear to be machined stainless steel. The 24 inch bar I noticed and thought maybe it was because it being a mid range bar. Then received the 16 for the 41cc saw, it was the same. They might be heavy for some people's tastes but when it comes down to robustness and corrosion resistance at an economical price,that's a big deal especially when you look at being milled. Farmertec has stainless bars and they are good, we have several from 20 to 42 inches,they are good. I haven't been able to buy a replacement tip yet and the design unfortunately no one has a tip similar. The bar is laminated, no big deal really as long as you pay attention of course, but between the 2 I like the Neo-tec bar better. Anyway I'm working on a 30 minute comment here! Lol I'll mention the bar to our colleague at Neo-tec and have a solid answer. Ric
@@CornucopiaFarmstead awesome don't worry I read for FUN so I don't mind long winded answers good sir in fact the more detailed the better in my case lol
Also one other thing I got my echo 620p brand new for 515 dollars w/ a 24 inch bar/chain and that's including taxes and shipping and my 7310 with a 32 inch bar cost me 680 with taxes and shipping so I believe they can fall into the budget category along with these brands however their performance at that price point is second to none I do have the equivalent husky models and they cost me on an a stage of 300 dollars more each but I also love them as I'm sure I will my g444 and whatever neotech I go with because I've always been interested in Stihl but I don't like how the actual Stihl feels in hand my brother has a gs660 as well as an actual 660 and I like the way the holzforma feels and handles better , I have nothing bad to say about Stihl but they are just not for me especially with what they cost, that is said with one caveat I want very badly a Stihl ms400c
Not really sure the name/group. It is on our video editor and only has "type" listed for style. We really dig the 🎸 background music for sure! I've been trying to get Melissa to put a vid up of her playing but she hasn't done it yet!
I have a lot of Woody cut. My son help me cut firewood. I run Echo chainsaws. I don't like anybody to run my chainsaws. Neotech needs to send me a new chainsaw.
Hey bud. They have 2 dealers here in the US. Smelter City Saw Shop, 605-515-0614, also Mathew Wood 607-423-3210, he can also be reached on Facebook. We do not work for Neo-tec but only help with developing the equipment. As for everything else the saws we purchase come directly from Amazon and are purchase by us individually. I hope this helps and hopefully you can get the problem resolved quickly and to your satisfaction as this is what I would want also if I were in your situation! Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing! Ric
![Gunna - HIM ALL ALONG [Official Visualizer]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/HiCxoDeo0hc/mqdefault.jpg)
Neotec NS872/Stihl MS380 amzn.to/3U94KmX
Farmmac F380/Stihl MS380 amzn.to/3FPK4vM
Farmmac F660v/Stihl MS660 amzn.to/3FHVrGd
Farmmac F070/Stihl MS070 amzn.to/3h2h0Xy
Farmmac F372/Husqvarna 372xp amzn.to/3Wy3ATt
It's a fantastic saw. Matched with the 24" bar, it has perfect balance. It's become my favorite saw in the mix.
For anyone that's thinking of getting one buy the 'high end' version.
Which one is the high end version?
@maxdragon15 typically all of the Farmmac branded saws are the end versions. They typically have better performance parts as in the carb ignitions and a few other parts that normally would be Chinese clone parts, they will use some actual oem parts and such. That is the extent that I know about them. Ric
I have same one had for a year cut roughly 30 cords of firewood well worth the money
Just got mine from Amazon the other day....WHAT A ......BEAST.
ONCE I figured out how to start it. I actually have to kneel over top of it and pull start mine.. with a 1 by 3 piece off wood to hold the handle down. If you all can visualize that. It LOVES THE PRE MIX 50 : 1 TRU FUEL. I AM REALLY IMPRESSED. I do have a 24 inch bat on mine.
I will say this. The bar oil cap did not shut and lock down. No Biggy. I just happen to have some stihl saws that use the same bar oil cap. Plus I went and orderd some more caps and I did go ahead and buy another chain too...
That's awesome! Funny the oil cap on ours acts the same way. I have found that one of the pieces on the floating ring seems a little loose and working with it it will work but takes patience. I have several 70+cc saws and wondered if we just received a really tight tolerance unit. I suppose it just goes to show that Neo-tec is really stepping up the power/quality wars! We are running 40:1 in ours now but I'll mix some 50:1 and let it rip! We have ran 24 and 28 inch bars maybe one day we will put a 36 inch on it and see how much torque it has? Glad you are enjoying it, please let us know how it works for you! All the best!
Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
Ric
@Cornucopia Farmstead Great video!
yes, please make a video with the 36" bar. I have 2 big maples to cut and the 28" bar may be just a little small.
Thanks
THANK YOU FOR JUST TALKING ABOUT THE SAW, GREAT JOB PARTNER
I recently sold this saw and a plank mill with it. I had a fella that needed to mill a fair amount of wood and rather than let him borrow it for an extended period of time, he just decided to make me an offer on it. Saw still runs great and is still in great condition. Gonna miss it as the ergonomics on that saw work really well for my stature. I’m pretty sure he is going to mod the saw but that’s fine as it is his now. I can’t complain about these saws blue or orange, for people that need an alternative they sure do fit the bill well. Thanks for commenting, Ric
That bar looks so mint 🤩
The breather lets air in, as the fuel is used, it creates a vacuum and it draws air in but wont let fuel out. The sprung flap on filter is the choke. One flick up on control is actually little more than half throttle lock
It's been 9 months. Just curious how it's holding up and if it ran better after break in. It seems to have about the same power as my 15 year old Husky 455.
Love it! The comment that is, I have some great older saws too that also run well compared to newer saws. In this vid it was running on heavy oil fuel for break in. I ran it for I think 3 tanks but I don't remember exactly how many then switched it to 40 to 1 fuel and leaned it out from there. It does run much higher and quicker now and is used primarily along side the 892 Neo-tec too. For felling and bucking I use the 872 and 892. When they are new as you could see In this vid it was rich the entire time as this was the first time it was ran and exactly how it came out of the box. Many folks have asked to run them straight out of the box and that's what we did with this and many others. Even full rich it has loads of torque as you see from the vid and yes ran slow(because it was on 25/1)). Does it run better and faster now absolutely, was it inhibited before, if you know about fuel mixture then you understand what I am talking about. But yes it ran well then and runs harder and faster now. I do believe they are built well and for someone who has price concerns but also needs performance it is a great option. We just have started using the Neo-tec ns843 which is a copy of the husky 543xp, it runs very well and is a great ground and trim saw. We have been using it for a couple of weeks now both here and at work and is a surprising saw at a very good price compared to other options. Anyway I hope this helps clear the air, we aren't married to any brand but just look for better options value and performance for our and others needs. Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing, love the huskies too !
Ric
@@CornucopiaFarmstead it reminds me of the saws of the 80s for some reason..
@@whatsupdocchemdog5994 I think it is related to the brown color. Back in the 80's and 90's Husqvarna actually had either a brown white or gray top on most of there saws, the bottoms were always orange, not the orange they have today but a darker shade like these have. I have an old Husqvarna 44, it has the brown top and the old orange. It was my goto saw for limbing. 16 inch bard and 40 cc's. That little saw rips, it is a bit heavy but still runs well today. When one of the boys wants a keep they will get it first! Thanks for commenting!
Ric
I bought the same saw.Really enjoyed the video, but can't figure out how to attach the dogs? Don't know if I received all screws. Can you HELP
John I apologize for the delay, life happens round here. I can post a pick on the community page with the clutch cover and bar off, it will show the dogs mounted to the case. Ill also pull one of the 2 screws out and place it next to a ruler so you can see the length. Hope this will help. Ill do it later this evening as i am still cutting today.
Ric
Excellent presentation! Covered all the bases. Thanks, you gained a subscriber!
See you next time...
Thank you sir and thanks for subscribing!
I bought the ns872i. It ran great from the factory. After i ran it a couple of times I took it apart, modded the muffler, installed a lightened pop up piston and now it really freakin screams. Ill probably port it next but its running about as strong as my 660 already. The 872i feels like it will be a great saw for a long time
I jus bought the g660 with a 36 inch bar love it so far
We actually have 2 g660's. Haven't touched them since we have gotten this 872. Not that the 660 is a bad saw, this 872 is just a bit better in a few ways. I don't have a problem with our blue saws, but for now this orange saw is winning the war for me. Both are great values. More run Tim then a side by side will answer more questions for sure! Thanks for commenting 👍and subscribing! Ric
It’s a 380…52mm over 34mm or 70cc… the g660 is a 066… 92cc size saw so it should have way more power? I love the 372’s with the 52mm and I add the Hyway 52mm popup piston topend and make them 76.4cc’s …closer to the Stihl ms460’s… That’s a great looking saw… I just really prefer the design simplicity of the husky 372’s with the bigger 52 topend with the popup they are ripper’s… pull the 28” bar with the straight ripper mod!!! It’ll pull a 36 with skipper chain!!! I really appreciate that you tear into it!!! I think I might get one to try.,, I need to check it’s price???
Instead of reaching around and grabbing the chain like that…rest it on the stump and lift the rear handle… then you can tighten the nuts… no cuts and not all stretched out…👍😁. I love that you are using the leg lock start technique! Great for people to learn from your video….great video buddy!!!
@@DaveyBlue32 to say I know a lot about chainsaws is probably a stretch. I probably know enough to be dangerous but in that statement I am a huge fan of chainsaws who has always used them more for work than pleasure. I admire those who easily modify there saws( which I seldom ever do)(but keep thinking about it). I admire them all too, and like a stray take one in if they find there way here!(I actually this week accepted a challenge to repair one to receive 4 other broke saws! So yes 4 broke saws are rest here at home now!)
Thank you for the wonderful time sharing comment, thanks for 👍and subscribing! As for cost, there is a link in the description for this saw, ours came from Amazon also, I think around 370 for the powerhead only. Ric
Thank you for this. I just ordered this saw with a 28" bar to use with a Granberg type mill. I'll be slabbing a lot of hardwood.
We have the first generation 872, it isn't the 872I, I know some folks like the 872I but I haven't found any issues with this first gen, has plenty of power and works great! I've milled with smaller 50cc saws before and they just consume to much fuel and take wayyyyy to long. The 872 will be a great milling saw for sure. Consider using and auxiliary oiler if your cut time exceeds 3 minutes, that is a safe bet. Enjoy your milling and saw, thanks for commenting and subscribing!
Ric
@@CornucopiaFarmstead Just to give you a six month update...I have milled hundreds of feet of maple, walnut, ash, and hackberry now with the NS872. Still going strong. I also bought a 36" bar and chain for milling, which I know is sold for a bigger saw, but I'll tell you what, this saw had no problem pulling that big bar through a 30" diameter maple log. I still haven't made an auxiliary oiler, but I'll probably do that this summer. Thanks again for the review. I'm very happy with it.
Just ordered it. Have a huge Camphor tree stump to remove and my Ryobi RY3714 not up for the task. Cheaper than the Echo Timberwolf. We'll see about durability.
I just had to order a NEO-TEC NS8105 42 inch Gas ChainSaw because of Hurricane Ian. There was no way possible I was going to pay $1500 + for a Stihl. I own a 16" Stihl but had a Goliath live oak that a tornado brought down during Hurricane Ian. The 16" Stihl just would not be able do the job at the trunk. Plus I now have free lumber, be stupid not to buy a chainsaw mill for a littler over a $100 and cut my own oak lumbar such as 2 x 4 or 2 x 6... Whenever I say Goliath live oak I mean just that it's huge. Mine was delivered today so hopefully it does the job. Thank you for the review.
My friend. Bless you and your loved ones. We are happy you are alive and well and thankful you can not only start the recovery process but also, make use of what was left behind. I can't say a word that would describe how fortunate you are and we just hold on to hope that others are as fortunate as you. I'm glad this helps in the recovery and it is a case such as this where you are 100%right, $1500 is alot of money just for a saw, but clone saws fill the gap and that is all the difference in the world. The 8105 is a great saw, just keep oil and fuel in it, then all you need is wood chips! Best of luck to your recovery and thanks for commenting!
Ric and Mel
Mine came with the skid plate already mounted on it. It's going to be a nice woodyard saw.
Great Review looks like a great saw!!
Ps what pocket knife you carry knife/model thank you jb.
Hey there JB. This saw was the first Neotec we got , I think, can’t say for sure now but it has been a while. I had used it for milling at the beginning of 2024 a friend saw it setting on the bench and asked if I would sell it the way it is(mill and all), I ended up selling it and he kept going with it. Saw was never modded and had the original bar still in place. Couldn’t complain. Anyway to answer you second question the pocket knife. If you go to Walmart or even on line, you can find the folders and sometimes full tang short blades for less than $5 bucks sometimes even $4. They are always super sharp and surprisingly durable too. Plus you don’t fret to much if you lose or misplace it.
All the best, Ric
@@CornucopiaFarmstead it was a push button I saw Ric you used pocket knife and that knife I could not buy for 5.00 it's like 5 or 6" blade? Thx Ric.
Yes , that was actually a knife that came with a Milwaukee sheet rock saw. I remember it now. It was great when new but not so much as it aged. The blade is a very hard steel and is not the easiest to sharpen. It had decent hand holding ergonomics but once it became dull it was very hard to get to a nice edge again. I eventually stuck it to a grinder and put a feather edge on it which made it better to sharpen but did mean it would dull quicker. It came in a bundle during Christmas years back and really doesn’t get used hardly at all anymore, unfortunate. A Milwaukee disappointment. Ric
I was running my Echo chainsaws today. CS 7310 p and my cs800 p in my echo 590 0 timberwolf. I didn't have a chance to unbox it yet the new chainsaw from neotec but the bar didn't come in today. It's supposed to be a 24-in bar.
I ordered that neotec 872 last Wednesday. The powerhead came in Saturday morning. The bar came in today April 4th. Well when I pulled the side cover off. The bar tensioner didn't work very well. It was missing a screw. Had to go to the hardware store. I put some good Grease on the bar adjuster. It doesn't work very well. I'm going to order a OEM bar adjuster from steel. It started up on the third pull. I also pulled the clutch apart. Put some grease on the needle bearing.
I agree totally on the bar adjuster, mine was similar but the screw holder was in place, I tried several different fabs on the stock adjuster but will ultimately just replace the adjuster with an oem unit unless Neo-tec can make and improvement which I hope they will! All in all I still can't complain, they aren't perfect but few things in life are these days! Thanks again for commenting bud, stay safe and happy sawing!
Ric
I just bought a new NeoTec 8105 for chain saw milling. Haven’t used it yet but very excited to get to it.
Yeah,that will be a great saw for milling. I have used ours for stumps mostly, one time I did put a long bar on it just to round out a tree not bending over. I don't recommend that, unless you are more prepared than me! That was a little much holding and operating such a large unit cutting every 18 inches. I was pretty tore up after that! They are great for the price, and though not equal(but close) on performance or even quality, they are great options for folks who need the power and size saw. If the break or blow up you can still repair them for less than what you would have in the oem brands. We have ran these Neo-tec saws for about a year and a half now. We haven't had any major issues with any of them, but also they are well cared for and all still stock with no modifications. We have had little issues with a bolt here or there, one had an air filter issue but really that's about it. Worth the cost and will likely last linger than I will ever need. That's my 2 cents. Thanks for commenting!
Ric
I ran a 038 mag2 for years, this looks and works like a good clone. Note: those roping chips make a great fire starter, I put a kitty liter bucket full of them for ever customer that bought 3 cords or more from me. I later gave dried pitch from stump cuts.
Yes sir, 038/380 is a great saw. It is a popular older model to clone for sure. This was Neo-tec's first clone I believe for mass. They produce parts for repair then started making full saws much like FT. As for this one I can't say for the other makers of the same model but can say compared to many equivalent saws it isn't bad at all. This is the first gen 380 from Neo-tec and also the lowest in response or power compared to the newer gen saws from them of the same model. I personally have never had a problem with it while it was used heavily for a year. They came out with a new line called Farmmac with a higher end or performance version of the same model. It is substantially better in all categories though, I would say it is much improved which leads to the higher performance while only just a touch more in cost. As for the Firestarter we do the same thing, pine or cedar works best for us and is kept dry. We pull dust and chips off our saw mill too and is used for garden and fire aid too. Carbon is a good thing if used appropriately! Thanks for commenting!
Ric
New to owning a home and a chainsaw, I got a huge stump to cut down and was wondering when you say that it will provide more power with the mixture. 40:1 vs 25:1
Good luck...hopefully it's long lasting great video tho. I'm a Stihl or Husqvarna person myself been using them over forty years...can't beat them in my mind...great track record with these two brands. Shoe
Yes sir, been using those 2 brands myself for a number of years. Thanks Shoe. Just wanted an altnernative for more saw for less money. Couldn't afford the Husky or Stihl, so went to the next best option. Thanks for watching.
@@CornucopiaFarmstead I hear that...these days all is spendy...hope you the best...please report out later to let folks know how it works out.Shoe
Will do!👍
So, is it Neo-Tec, or Holzforrma?
Are they the same rebranded saws?
They are two different companies. Both of them make parts for basically all types of outdoor hand power equipment. Neotec is a newer supplier than Farmertec but they basically make the same or similar equipment, some prefer Neotec some prefer Farmertec, we use them both and give a slight edge to quality for Neotec. I recently sent 3 saws to NC for the cleanup and these saws were already a couple of years old. They are still using them today and will stay with the community for community work in Black mountain area. They are a great alternative for someone who wants the power and good quality but not having to pay the oem prices for the same saws. Most people call them trash and for someone who doesn’t take care of there equipment , anything can be trash. I like them and unless I hit the lottery I’ll never pay the crazy costs for a fancy oem.
I really like your video. I have one of these saws (NS 8721) that is probably an earlier version of your saw I got last year from Amazon. A question I have for you is where can I get replacement parts and possibly a “shop manual” (we used to have TMs in the Army) so I can properly maintain the saw over time? Thanks again for the good review
Todd in Ohio
Hey Todd. Thanks for the kind words and question(s). First let me say thank you for serving and thank you for your service. I’m and army brat as my father and grandfather, along with several other elders in the family have served in the military. I appreciate all that who have served and will serve, there is no greater good one can do for country than to serve and protect it. I have never served but have assisted in various forms of training for entities over the years and have been more than happy to do so.
As for your question with the saw I would direct you to the Stihl oem manual which you should be able to download off the web. The 872 is a clone of the ms380 saw, all the parts from stihl oem ms380 will work on this saw, albeit they will be substantially more cost than the Neotec parts of which they do offer parts on the website. Our 872 is over 2 years old and is used very often and hasn’t had a freshen yet. I have found high quality 2 stroke oil is largely the best thing you can do to maintain performance other than routine maintenance cleaning after use. I will say when we use equipment most of the bolts are loctited with blue or red loctite, bars chains drive sprockets filters air passages levers triggers pull cord coil, flywheel plug and ignition are cleaned and double checked before and after each use. It is about 1 hour per saw each day just for me to do that. None of our equipment is modified for performance other than adjusting oil mix from either small cc to large cc and from summer use to winter use, this is the only time the oil mix is changed. We have used vp racing synthetic 2 stroke oil for many years and it has never let us down. Used In the power equipment and the dirt bikes, never had a failure. I hope this helps! Thanks for commenting, Ric
Do you know what's the difference between 872 and 872i ..?
Sean I can't say for certain what the differences are but can tell you only what I have read. I believe the "I" has an upgraded ignition as one of the main parts and also has several smaller upgrades that don't result in much of a change. Like the little 25cc top handle, I use this 872 , g5800 and the 892 as my primary saws cutting today. Firewood season is hot and heavy so they are getting lots of use!. Thanks for commenting, Ric
At thr star of the video on the 4 wheeler what's that u have holding the chainsaw
The bar is resting in a gun rack made to be mounted on round tubing. It is also used to hold various tools such as shovels and whatever else we use taking care of our farmstead. The atv is a much more useful tool than a Utv as it is more capable in precarious situations and much easier to keep from rolling over you in hilly terrain. Utvs are great on mostly flat or slight incline but they are generally too bulky in most situations. The atv is used daily and generally has more hours used on a day to day basis than my daily driver truck. Thanks for commenting! Ric
I too am curious about the chain and or bar being almost out of adjustment when new? Is the bar the correct length and it was just a too long chain? Thanks for your review!
I run the chains looser on there first voyage. What people are seeing is the angle we shot that folks couldn't see what I was actually doing with the bar placing them over the adjustments pin. Other than that indo actually run my chains very loose in the beginning to prevent over stretching. I hope this helps! Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
Nice looking saw. What about parts and service? Longevity?
I can't speak for longevity and service yet,but I do know part's are available direct from Neo-tec via Amazon or one could simply install the Stihl part's on this particular saw. We have conversations about this saw and the NH841 and the manufacturer is wanting to build and provide a great product. They are currently developing both a website along with social media pages to provide better access for customers. This is something we have expressed to them that is needed rather than just an Amazon store front. We have currently used both saws a couple hours each week since we have had them. Any issues or problems we have with them we will share here while also letting the manufacturer know also. So far so good and a very good value for sure! Thanks for commenting 👍and subscribing! Please share!
Regards, Ric.
Üdv az a vezető nagyon szép.
A fűrész is szép. Gratulálok 🤝👍✌
Thanks for the comments 👍 and subscribing! The saw is very nice!
I'll have mine Monday. The comparable Echo costs $1000. I have a stump from a 50' Camphor tree and it's massive. If this helps get this cut down enough to pull the rest out of the ground it will be well worth it. Camphor trees have a massive shallow root system which can damage property and plumbing. It is an invasive species which will crowd out other trees and vegetation.
Ebay now sells them. I have been looking at the MS 660 copy.
If the 892 is anything like this 872, I'm sure you will be pleased with it if you decide on purchasing it. The 872 runs very well and the build quality is very nice also. Each of these we have are used at least 3 days a week since fall has came. We have several farmertec saws we were using prior to these. Neo-tec sent us ours to review and provide feedback/development for them. Compared to the blue saws they are easily an equal while also having better qualities in other areas.
Overall, for the price they are hard to beat!
Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing! Please share!
Ric
You don't need to push the decomp EVERY time you pull the rope. Only when it pops (tries to start) does it have enough pressure to push the plug back out
This entire time I have been (years)pushing the decomp every time! Figures! Lol, thanks for the tip, I'll likely still press it every time, the one time I don't I'll snap the cord with my luck!
@@CornucopiaFarmstead if the decomp valve does pop out when it doesn't try to start. You have a faulty decompression valve
And it actually causing the saw to run a bit lean causing a minor "air leak"
Thank you for the info, I didn't know that and will keep that in mind! I haven't noticed a lean condition yet and hope we don't! I suppose going to an oem husky or stihl decomp might be the best option to keep from burning a hole in pistons! Thank you sir!
@@CornucopiaFarmstead On the other side, not using the decomp often enough can make it corrode and even snap off if the corrosion is localized, as I've seen it happen to users on arboristsite. I personally use it every time, it's not for my hand or shoulder, but it makes it easier on the starting mechanism and all the plastics in there.
@@em4703 I am of the thought whenI have it I will use it anyway. Decomps serve several functions, with primary function being simply making the starting process easier and causing less damage to person and equipment. As long as it serves a functional purpose I'll use it. I have nothing to prove from that point of view and enjoy the functionality of my moving joints I guess you would say. Lol. Having said that, modern 4 stroke and 2 stroke equipment have auto decompression built in they just haven't made it to hand equipment yet! Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
I might even put a 20-in bar on the new neotec 872.
Ya know if I had a 20 I would try it just to see but I'm sure it would scream and might even have to be richened up to compensate for the increased speed, I'm sure that would make quick work of anything!
Isn't Neotec a Holtzfformer rebranded? I use a few Holtzfformer saws and have had good luck with the 55cc plus models but the little stihl copys of the ms170 an 180 are not much just like the oem models have been junk so far, great power but every one had a crank seal fail. Cheers Mark.
To my knowledge and conversations with Neo-tec they have no relationship with farmertec. They like several other small equipment manufacturers are parts sellers/kit sellers and now selling complete units. Neo-tec has 4 saws currently 41cc, 72cc, 92cc and 105cc. They have several other units coming down the pipeline. As for the smaller saws the 841 we have been testing is the first sub 50cc saw we have acquired in a long time. We typically only use smaller saws for limbing or in tree work(which we use an echo top handle).
At first use the saw isn't bad and the quality/fit and finish is very nice. Before each use all of our equipment is given a nice once over then again once put away.Unless the unit starts to run erratically it won't get tore down and will only have loops oil and fuel put on it. Overall everything is going nicely so far and we hope to keep it that way. If. Or when we have a failure we will share that for the simple fact we aren't paid for any of these videos but rather share these experiences for everyone's own benefit for experience and personal considerations.Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
You got a link to any of the small Holtzffoemer or Farmertec saws like the MS170/180? I can’t imagine buying a copy of the ms170, when brand new at the Stihl dealer they are $179….
For those interested in a Farmertec vs. Neo-tec comparison on some of the internals, /watch?v=eq8tpnkkdh8
Wat size bar were u running on it in the video?
Great channel and because of you, I have found neo tec and Farmmac. Do you know if there's a Stihl ms880 clone in the works?
Thanks so much! I hope you have enjoyed the differences that this company has compared to the other clone makers, I find they are substantially better all the way around. As for the other saws coming out , yes they have 5 big saws they will be debuting soon hopefully. We have a video coming out that explains what is happening with manufacturers/ing in China right now. The vid will share some details with both Neo-tec and FT along with Branson and TYM tractors too. Please feel free to comment about your experiences with the saw on the vid as the manufacturer does read the comments and they make changes asap. We still use the original ns872 when bucking but I use the f660 now for felling as it is quicker than the old ns892 and has some upgraded components which let the saw just respond better and a slight increase in power. Fast cuts are safe cuts! Thanks for commenting!
Ric
Regret my blue 1s but these seem better quality and will be watchin em
Hope it serves you well w longevity
Sorry to hear about that first saw. It does happen and could with this one also,but hopefully this and our other saws will work out great! The fit and finish is very surprising on both the 872 and the 841. We have several of the blue saws and I can honestly say they have been great saws with very few issues at all. Receiving these saws has been better than delivery of the blue saws for sure, that is the second biggest difference. The retail packing is much better with Neo-tec for sure and that helps. We will be developing both of these saws and have a few other pieces coming down the pipeline. If the rest of there equipment is as close or better than this? Having said all of that thanks for commenting 👍 and please subscribe and share if you you don't mind! Thanks again , Ric
The chain guard adjustment was missing a screw. Couldn't even adjust the chain adjustment tensioner. It didn't even fit something's wrong in the casting
Just bought this saw in 24” for $168.00 bucks bought the 2 year Amazon warranty also.. shipped tax included for everything $208.00 .. lol what a deal
Yeah that’s a great deal for sure! Ours is used most often for bucking and large limbing, pretty much the farm saw really. Can’t beat the economics behind these! Thanks for commenting, Ric
GREAT VIDEO ! I just bought this saw ! BUT IT WAS MISSING THE DOGS !
Yeah that happens some times! We just found your channel about a week ago, looks like you stay pretty busy bud! We stay busy also but tree life is just a small part of it. Just trying to grow the channel and keep our heads above water!
Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
Ric
Well my neotec NS 872 powerhead came in today. The bar and the chain didn't. Cost me over 400 bucks.
Hey bud! Sorry to hear the bar didn't come in, with mine I actually got the bar first and then the head a week later. I'm sure some items are here In the US and some are shipping from China also. On the cost that seems to be in line for what we paid too. I do know they have been tremendously low on stock here in the US. I think they have 2 official dealers ,Mathew Wood(he can be found on Facebook and the other dealer is Bluesaws.com, they may be able to provide some insight to how long a delay would be.
Appreciate the video bud thank ya.
Thank you and sorry for such a delayed response! Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
Ric
I have several stihl and need a bigger saw for some of the larger trees. popular mainly .. but i can't see spending 1,500 plus. looking at the larger unit. ns 8105. any review on that one?
Hey there! Getting through a tree is definitely the most important thing. You can cut anything down with an edge but a saw sure does make it quicker and safer. On trees 30 inches or greater I'll use a 28 inch or sometimes 32,36 for trees up to 46 inch tree which is the largest I have felled. Cutting fast and efficiently for me is where it is at. I like the 92cc saws for big trees and have used the 070 clone for a couple large trees too. We did a vid with the Farmmac f070 which is the upgraded version of the 8105. It has some of the same parts stihl used on the oem 070. I can't say anything about the 8105 simply because I haven't ran one. But the f070 we have is a jewel for sure. I get tickled every time I run it as it just effortlessly cuts and runs! We have a couple long bars for it and I have used the 42 incher buried completely and it didn't slow it down much. This something you can't do unless your making power and torque. The only problem I have with it is the weight. I'm not a big guy and when you put a 42 inch bar on that saw fill I with juice and lube, it's pretty heavy! As for the money, it helps they are affordable. I know people give the clone saws a hard time but not everyone can afford the high end equipment, I know I can't! I hope this helps, I apologize for the delay life illness and weather! Happy New Years and thanks for commenting!
Ric
@@CornucopiaFarmstead thanks.. most of the trees i cut for our mill average between 24 to 36 so this will fit the bill. the 361 sthil just lacks power and can only run a 20 inch they say.. just need something with more power!
I just got the 872i. It's bad ass
I haven't used the 872i but do know it is much improved over the 872. I do know many folks are very pleased with the I version! Overall it is hard to beat a good clone saw that also has a great value. For what you have in them, it is alot easier to tolerate if they are damaged too!
Thanks for commenting!
Ric
Great looking chainsaw, I’m thinking of getting the very same saw for our firewood cutting
It is a great running little saw for sure. I have used it almost exclusively for felling almost 8 months now. In the beginning I used it and the Ns892 but leaned more toward the Ns872 as it was easier to throw around compared to the 892. Other things you can consider are the consumables. But if you prefer the consider the power then that is another new ball of wax. Having said all of this they have came out with a new line which they consider a pro series called FarmMac. They do have improved components which improve performance and some other little details with a slight increase in price. We have made a vid with 2 of the saws I will share the link here ruclips.net/video/ivQ8jcHMjVs/видео.html
And then the other 2 saw which are the F372 and F380 will be coming out soon. They have improved performance and other improvements too. Hope this helps! Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
Ric
@@CornucopiaFarmstead thank you so much, I will certainly be having a look at those. Thanks again for sharing the link.
Just to tell you how much things cost. I bought
Good looking saw
Quando tagli quel tronco, non usi tutta la potenza?
Perché non vedo tutta questa potenza e velocità nel segare quel tronco.
Forse perché sono i primi tagli e quindi non usi tutta la forza?
I almost bought one of there 36 inch bars the other day but went with what I know works.
Yeah I can't fault that either way bud! If you get a chance to checkout one of the Neo-tec saws/bars give them a good look over. 3 to 4 people use our saws here at home on the farmstead. Right now I am the only one maintaining most all of the motorized equipment. But with the saws, bars especially, they take a beating from some of the users which is expected given user experience. Having said that certain bars are for certain users which is just how it is here. I like the stainless bars and prefer a well built bar v/s a laminated low cost bar which doesn't last very long. Anyway, if you get a chance, check out the Neo-tec bar, good stuff!
Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
Happy Thanksgiving
Ric
What is the difference between the 892 and the 892V? And is this option also available on the 872?
I just had one delivered it was missing nothing bolts on the chain guard tensioner
Woowwww amazing ❤
Well it looks like you got a good one that's not what I got in the mail. My neotek ns 872 chainsaw. The chain adjuster didn't even have the screws in it
Other than the missing screws, any other notable issues? Thank you.
Do they make a Bigger melling Shaw capability
I am not sure what you are asking but I think you are asking if they make bigger saws for milling? If that is the case they have basically 3 larger saws right now. They have the F660v and the ns892 which are ms660 stihl clones, they also have the f070 and the ns070 which are the ms070 clones, one saw they have recently came out with is the f660bv which is a big bore 660 clone that is 99cc rather than the standard 92cc which is what a 660 is. I haven't ran the newest saw(f660bv) but have the 070 and the 660 clones. They all run well and would mill logs just fine. The 070 runs at a lower rpm and has more torque down low compared to the 660 clone which actually makes about .5 hp more but you turn much more rpms compared to the 070 clone. I hope this answers your questions, thanks for commenting, Ric
Great video! Thanks! I always lay my chains on a flat surface to untangle them. It greatly reduces the amount of profanity that comes from my mouth. 😂
I thought I would put a carbide chainsaw blade on it. I was going to open up the oil holes on the bar. So that the bar got plenty of oil. Music for cutting dirty lumber money things like that. What do you think.
Your going in the right direction with the oiler port, I did the same thing with ours. They have a nice drilled slot for the port but I believe it is just a little small and also this makes it easy to clog. I drilled the port to 1/8 inch and was fairly difficult but effective. The standard port is right at 1/16.
I believe you have the right idea bud, that stainless is tuff to drill through. As for the carbide ,I have never used carbide tipped teeth for 2 reasons. 1 cost and 2 cost of resharpening. Luckily I have rolls of chain and trees full of nails so I am often just replacing chains, it's almost normal to have to replace a chain every other month unfortunately! One of these days I'll pull the plug and try a carbide tipped chain, I was actually wanting to try a diamond chain on one of these saws for concrete which I know they aren't designed for and would require some fabrication, I really just want to see if these are tough enough to do some "lite" concrete work!
I bought 24-in Echo chainsawbar 2 full chisel chains. Two 28 in chains 93 link. One Red armor Echo two-cycle mix up 5 gallons. One container 5 gallons Echo Red armor. &287.00 dollars. Plus a couple spark plugs air filters. Have to keep everything running good especially the chainsaws.
That's awesome! I have never used the red armor but know many people that do, I have always used the VP racing full synthetic and it has worked well for many many years(plus I have like almost 3 gallons of it on the shelf which should last for many more years!)
For the filters consider some grease around the contact area where it surrounds the intake port, I find it helps to catch fine particulate matter. Looks like your ready bud!
Is it true that one difference with the (i) model is that it doesn’t have a decomp? Im trying to decide if I want to save $50 and get the regular one or pay and get the (i). Does the regular one seem good, do you think the (i) one would actually perform or last better?
Honestly I couldn't tell you on that simply because I haven't used the 872i. From what I have seen in other people using the "I" most of them like it better for either power or less quirks. I can say for ours it runs strong and we haven't had any issues whatsoever with it. I wish I could give a better answer for you but I haven't used the "I" or else I could say. Ours runs fine , maybe has 20 hours on it now.
I want this offer cutting dirty lumber. Lumber with spikes in it. I don't want to run my echo CS 7310 p or my 800 Echo. In dirty lumber. The bar is in the chains cost too much. My CS 800 Echo is 5 years old still runs perfect. Starts every time. I'm hoping that this neotec 872 will do its job. I'm not looking for speed I'm looking for reliability. I think if I set it up right the neotech 872. Should be a good chainsaw. With the carbide chain.
Nice video sir, thanks for sharing.
Thank you🤓
Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
Check my video to sir, about tree work
Will do!
Looks very good...
Yes sir Popa! We are learning from you sir too! This 872 is a nice machine, we have many plans for these 2 saws for developing in the future. Seem to work really well!
@@CornucopiaFarmstead i like it :)
I just got my ns8105. Saw look nice but let me know when you put fuel in it and it starts leaking fuel real bad from bottom of your fuel tank i like DAM that's BS
Yeah man that is BS. Did you send it back? I would have. It does happen, hasn't happened to us yet with a NT but has happened with a FT saw we purchased here from a state side seller. We actually kept the malfunctioning saw and they sent us another saw to replace it. I repaired the first saw a short time after. Things happen and Is unfortunate. Hate to hear that but they can and I'm sure will make it right for you bud. Thanks for sharing and commenting, people should know and that isn't a problem with me either, I'll tell and show what we get and one can see how they work for us.
Ric
I try to return they say no return no refundable cause of safety that's bs now im stuck with a FUP saw don't do me no good. Cost me. $589 waste, all i own is huscavana and stilh and i never have problem, so i thought i give a try tec saw but i got screw not refundable and im being ignore
@@jawdouan4509 if I were you I would contact them on there Facebook page then the website and try to settle the problem. They normally resolve problems if they are in the warranty period. That's what I would do if I were you bud.
@@CornucopiaFarmstead they say no refundable or replacement that's more BS
@@jawdouan4509 yes that is bad. I can only suggest that you keep trying to contact them. If it is out of warranty they won't issue a refund or a replacement, if it is still in warranty they I am sure would take care of it, that is what warranty is for. Good luck bud.
Can I get an update on her status. Interested in getting one
Sorry for the delay there! Hard to keep up from time to time. This was the first Neo-tec saw we ran and does have the most running hours of the Neo-tec and Farmmac. While it isn't used as often as it used to be it does get pulled out from time to time. I ran it for around 6 months really often and haven't had any issue with it since the beginning. I believe this is the first generation ns872 also. I know reading on Facebook and some comments on our channel I believe this saw is the one that has had the most trouble. People have said it is down on power, nuts or bolts being loose and chain not staying tight. I can't verify any of these simply because I don't have any of those in front of me. I can tell you about ours though. I would estimate it has around 40 to 45 hours of use. It has used 3 complete chains, meaning they have been sharpened to end of use. I honestly did not expect it to perform the way it did, much like the FT saws, the clone saws are a great value but also sometimes can be a luck of the draw too. Knock on wood ours haven't had any major issues , including this saw. I think the 70cc saws are great simply because they are great all around. They are fast for felling but also great for bucking. Compared to the larger cc saws they are much easier to handle for long days holding and cutting. The ergonomics of the 70cc saws are only slightly larger compared to the 50cc saws. I believe they are a great compromise if you just want to run one saw. We have many many saws so we cycle the saws out many times. One thing to note is that on all of the equipment we use it is all maintained very well but also cleaned and prepped for use after each day. We don't modify any of our equipment and this helps for longevity too.
Thanks for commenting, Ric.
farmer firewood cuter its all ways good to hear about new things on land thanes
Yes I agree! Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
Ric
Thanks for the video. I'm thinking about getting one. I haven't been able to find out what kind of warranty they have. Do you have any information about that?
Good evening Charles and Happy New Years! Sorry to reply so late! To my knowledge the homeowner use is 6 months and the commercial warranty is 3 months. Purchasing on Amazon they also have either a 30 day or 45 day return policy also, but don't take my word for it as I am not certain on this. Having said all of that, if you have never owned a large CC saw please do your research on any saw 70cc's and above. They use a lot of fuel oil bar and chain's. What I'm saying is they get the work done quick but they go through some consumables! If time or big wood/milling is what you are wanting to do, 70cc's and above is what you need to be holding in your hands. I hope this helps, have a great and safe evening. Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
Ric
@@CornucopiaFarmstead Thank you.
I wish they would have sent the cheap version to you instead of the ns872i which is the up grade with the walbro carb and other upgrades . Mine came with all the cheap parts .and I would have not bought it if I had known other wise . If you are going to sell stuff for them they need to be straight up with you . Mine has been junk so far
Faina drujba
Is it compare to a
572xp husqvarna?
Unfortunately I don't think you can have a fair comparison between the 2 saws. The 572 is of the latest technology along with an auto tune carb/ignition, this 872 doesn't have the same tech. If you were to eliminate the differences I would still give the edge to the husky for the simple fact it is based on the old 372 saw which has lead the field for many decades. If price was no issue then I would hands down be 100% Husqvarna even over Stihl. But, price being an issue, I am going to Neo-tec, which is what we have done. As for it being made in China, that isn't an issues either. Most things many people use daily are from China and every nation in the world has problems we don't like talking about. Hope this helps. Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing ! Merry Christmas! Ric and Mel
Notice. NEO-Tec NS872I now comes only with a front adjusting chain tensioner. It is very awkward and disappointing.
It took 5 days to get the complete chainsaw here. I let it warm up really good. Ran it half throttle let it cool down idle. Ran it through a few heat cycles. Shut it off let it cool down completely. I had some 24-in rounds they had to have 10 inches cut off of them. Then I noodle in half. I had to set the high idle on it. And the low idle. It started out and ran just fine. Just a little doggy. I'm impressed it's a good saw.$405 delivered that was taxes and delivery.
Sounds awesome! I would rather be on the rich side than lean side any day! Proper breaking is essential for long life but it seems you already know that. Typically we will run 2 tanks of fuel and maybe 3 tanks of oil then go to either 40 or 50:1 mixture. For the cost , to me, it is hard to pass up what you get for the money. They not only do the job but do it well! Stay safe continue with the break-in and happy cutting!
Ric
So are they a totaly different compony than farmer tec?
Yes, totally different company, no relationship at all. They share no components whatsoever. From our discussions they have a plan to be better than farmertec. In comparison, we have both companies saws chains and bars. As of right now we like what we see from Neo-tec in direct comparison. If the vid wasn't so long we would highlight the differences, but that would be a very long video. From packaging to finished components, Neo-tec is in the lead for sure in my opinion.
@@CornucopiaFarmstead thanks good to know.
Not a problem, we are trying to work out a program to provide development, Stull up in the air right now. From our end we like what we see from the product side and from the price point side. We believe they have a great product at a great price and alternative for sure! Still up in the air for sure but we will see where it goes. We do have more usage vids coming with each saw which will show 15-20 hours use to this point.
@@CornucopiaFarmstead alright sounds good. I was looking for there other modles but not seeing a main websight .
Yes, we brought up the web site a few weeks ago, they are developing that right now. They have a web store on Amazon (parts and kits from here too)that has more information than anything. They are waiting on inventory to arrive here and do have some equipment but, like the rest of the world have the same struggle as the rest of us. They are working on the web page along with some new equipment coming out soon too. Stay tuned or hopefully you will see it here also. We will share what we find out along with how our equipment runs and works out. Keep in touch!
Ric
I ordered one of those chainsaw today. They said it should be here April 4th. We'll see
Which saw did you purchase? I find I use the 872 the most from an ergonomics stand point, for cutting big rounds it does just fine. The 892 is just a hoss of a saw and on my small frame it is alot for me to lug around. Please drop us a line and share your thoughts. If you are on Facebook I believe Neo-tec has a couple of pages there too, the website is still a work in progress but from what I have been told will be finished soon.
Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
Ric
I ordered the 872 neotec. I like the 70cc chainsaws. I have an echo 7310 and the cs 800 Echo.
@@bentwedgestanleybrand5818 Amazon says that the 872 is 9 kg (19.85lb)! Elsewhere on the internet it says the same mostly, 9.5 kg once, and 6kg once. Considering the Stihl ms-381 is so much less weight, is this correct?? Farmtec's clone is not this much.
I'm interesed If they have Husqvarna copyes or only Stihl.I would buy from Neotec but only a Husqvarna copy.Greetings from Romania!
Hello Romania! I sent the manufacturer a direct message to your question. As soon as they respond I will have an answer for you! Thanks for commenting 👍and subscribing! Regards, Ric.
I see one Zenoah based clone. Like a joncutter 3800. But they claim 41cc
And they have Stihl clones of the 380 and 660
@@EcSsAwS yeah, we like the joncutter also. We have the g5800 which we purchase last year. It's a nice saw ,I don't think it is built as well as these Neo-tecs , but it us a good saw. The larger saws(Neo-tec), in my opinion are pretty good saws, I would go as far to say they are built better than the blue saws, we will know more once we have another to compare. Impressed so far for sure!
@@EcSsAwS ok thanks a lot for answer.Now i'm interesed If this type of chainsaw is available for sale in Romania.Once again thanks for your answer.Have a nice day and greetings from Romania!
Full wrap bar ?
Hey Brian. I believe a full wrap bar is available as this is the same saw compared to the ms380 or ms038. With the type of cutting I do a full wrap bar isn't needed. I do have 3 full wrap saws all of which are ms440,460 and 660. I do have a Neo-tec 892 which is the same as the ms660.
Hope this helps!
Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
Ric
Where did you order your saw from?
Ours were all ordered off of Amazon bud. I left 2 phone numbers for the service center in one of the comments you left. You should be able to find some help from one of those folks.
Wooww... luar biasa..!
Salam from indonesia. .
Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
Ric
I got the husky 872 on the way. 372xp clone. It was 180 dollars for the powerhead on Amazon. Ridiculous low price. A comparison vid would be cool. The husky has a higher advertised hp. I look at it as an inexpensive toy to modify.
Yeah the 872 is a great running saw. I used ours for almost 2 years and just recently sold it to a fella who is going to use it for milling. Most folks get these for the exact reasons you mention plus for just one time storm clean up. At the end of the day they are very close, maybe within 75/80% of the oems depending on the actual head you get. We haven’t modded any of our saws but I have seen and ran many that have. Most folks alter the timing(flywheel) or they change the port timing numbers, install the oem ignition coil(probably the best and quickest for the most power). If you did all of these to the 372 clone you are still less than half the cost of the old 372 or even greater less than the new 572. I can tell you our 872 even when I sold it is a great running saw and rock solid reliable for us, not that they all will but still for the cost, it is hard to beat! As for comparison other than some older 600cc and less oem saws we don’t have the larger nor could afford them. It would be nice but just isn’t in the cards! All the best and drop a line when you run your new saw!
Ric
I very much want to enter the giveaway for this bad boy it would do some nice work alongside my echo 620
i have never heard of a ms 382.... the 462 is their 70cc saw, 362c is their 60 cc...
This saw is basically the stihl ms380 which was sold in Europe only I believe. I know that replacement parts from the stihl ms380 will bolt right up with this saw. It wasn't a North American selling product. Very good running saw we have here. Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
Ric
Stihl 038 Magnum was sold in the US, when stihl went to the MS380/ 381 they were not sold in the US as they would not meet emissions. Many Ms380/381 parts swap to the 038 Mag (I've been down this rabbit hole trying to find parts for a 038 Mag). From what I understand is the 380/381 followed the 038 magnum in being high compression and high torque saws. Not as fast chain speed but alot of grunt. The 038 Magnum was a 72 CC saw
i went amazon ......out of stock......yes i am gonna get one
Yes unfortunately I is the case. In speaking with the manufacturer he has said they are on the way but the current logistics issues are effecting products landing. Hopefully they will arrive soon and if they tell us a date we will follow up. Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
Ric
It's starting right up but the chain bar adjustment. I want a new chainsaw it's junk
Amaziing 👍👍👍
I want that same chainsaw! That's not what was delivered to my house.
Amazon says that the NS 872 is 9 kg (19.85lb)! Elsewhere on the internet it says mostly the same, but also 9.5 kg once, and 6kg once. I don't believe the 9kg, but not sure about the 6kg either. Anyone have an actual weight?! Thanks.
Why cant i find these for sale anywhere?
In discussions with the manufacturer they are awaiting products to both leave and arrive in the US. As of last week they had a shipment on the way but hasn't landed yet. Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
Ric
That lever on the filter is ur choke
Hell yeah brother, Stihl gotta get with the program and quit making the levers multi purpose! Pull this push that and oh, by the way, move it all the way up and that's your stop switch too! Lol. Rip it brotha!
@@CornucopiaFarmstead .. hahaha...that's the way the 038 and 028 stihls was ...the choke was built into the filters.. probably other Stihl models of they era was like that too🤙🏻
@@Aaron_A_Lynch yeah man, I hate that lol! I'm gonna have to get in on some rippas!
@@CornucopiaFarmstead heck yeah...more the better🤙🏻
@@Aaron_A_Lynch 😅 glad to hear it ol buddy
Are you sure of it being a stainless bar…thought bars were aluminum for weight, flexibility, and ease of filing?
One-hundred-percent positive actually spoke to the manufacturer several different bars one of them is a steel bar that is laminated the other two bars are both stainless steel one is laminated and one is actually milled so it is a solid stainless steel bar that has been milled but yes I'm 100% positive and we have been working with the manufacturer on not only developing these saws but some new saws that are in the works!
Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
Ric
Awesome thanks for the info and reply!
I got to say very nice fit and finish but the price is almost too good, Are these from the farmertec factory do you know.... i originally didnt think so....
To my knowledge they are a separate company and have no relation to Farmertec at all. They have 4 saws total and are developing new equipment right now which we are waiting on also. On this saw it is actually better than what we have with all of our units from the blue brand. Really impressed with what we have right now. We will continue to use and develop these saws and see how they run through. Incidentally, my first track bike was an '89 fzr400----- good stuff bud, I'll check these videos out! Thanks for commenting and subscribing!
Hi mate,this machine is from neotec. not farmertec
I can adjust my chain something's not right I want a new chainsaw
is ur decomp bad?
The decomp os fine and has never malfunctioned on this saw. I know many people say that they replace the decomp and a couple other things on many of the clone saws. But no, we don't have one that has any malfunctions other than the f372 seems to oil at a lowe rate than expected. Thanks for commenting!
Ric
I cant find this saw anywhere on amazon. As a matter of fact I came back and edited my comment. I cant find this saw anywhere even when searching google.
They have an Amazon store front which can be a challenge to find. But once at the store front all there products are located there. If you can give it a moment to load it is a long page. Following is the link direct to the ns872,again, it should land in the country in less than 14 days now. They have kits available but I do not believe they have the built saws yet.
www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08TT6BNL9/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8
Hope this helps,
Ric
best chainsaw
They have laser on the bars and laser bars are made by tsumura as an economy line of lightweight bars
I don't know that it is affiliated with tsumura but I can say the bars from Neo-tec are pretty impressive as far as I'm concerned. They aren't laminated but appear to be machined stainless steel. The 24 inch bar I noticed and thought maybe it was because it being a mid range bar. Then received the 16 for the 41cc saw, it was the same. They might be heavy for some people's tastes but when it comes down to robustness and corrosion resistance at an economical price,that's a big deal especially when you look at being milled. Farmertec has stainless bars and they are good, we have several from 20 to 42 inches,they are good. I haven't been able to buy a replacement tip yet and the design unfortunately no one has a tip similar. The bar is laminated, no big deal really as long as you pay attention of course, but between the 2 I like the Neo-tec bar better. Anyway I'm working on a 30 minute comment here! Lol
I'll mention the bar to our colleague at Neo-tec and have a solid answer.
Ric
@@CornucopiaFarmstead awesome don't worry I read for FUN so I don't mind long winded answers good sir in fact the more detailed the better in my case lol
Also one other thing I got my echo 620p brand new for 515 dollars w/ a 24 inch bar/chain and that's including taxes and shipping and my 7310 with a 32 inch bar cost me 680 with taxes and shipping so I believe they can fall into the budget category along with these brands however their performance at that price point is second to none I do have the equivalent husky models and they cost me on an a stage of 300 dollars more each but I also love them as I'm sure I will my g444 and whatever neotech I go with because I've always been interested in Stihl but I don't like how the actual Stihl feels in hand my brother has a gs660 as well as an actual 660 and I like the way the holzforma feels and handles better , I have nothing bad to say about Stihl but they are just not for me especially with what they cost, that is said with one caveat I want very badly a Stihl ms400c
But seriously what's that intro music it slaps Im literally jamming along with it on my 7 string
Not really sure the name/group.
It is on our video editor and only has "type" listed for style.
We really dig the 🎸 background music for sure! I've been trying to get Melissa to put a vid up of her playing but she hasn't done it yet!
@@CornucopiaFarmstead do it that's another thing that people love seeing is girls with guitars
Don't forget to grease your bar tip
Yep, special gun just for that, I imagine alot of folks don't realize it needs greasing! Hopefully they will read these reminders!
It,s STIHL 038 AV
Nice looking bar once you get rid of all the corny graphics.
I agree, fortunately after a couple of years it wears pretty well but surprisingly the graphics and the has have held up very well.
Super akce 🦆🐑😆🍗🐙😛🐻✊😝🚜♥️🤗🌽😀😅🎻💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪
Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
I have a lot of Woody cut. My son help me cut firewood. I run Echo chainsaws. I don't like anybody to run my chainsaws. Neotech needs to send me a new chainsaw.
What is the phone number for neotec parts and service?
Hey bud. They have 2 dealers here in the US. Smelter City Saw Shop, 605-515-0614, also Mathew Wood 607-423-3210, he can also be reached on Facebook. We do not work for Neo-tec but only help with developing the equipment. As for everything else the saws we purchase come directly from Amazon and are purchase by us individually. I hope this helps and hopefully you can get the problem resolved quickly and to your satisfaction as this is what I would want also if I were in your situation! Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
Ric