Chainsaw Extremely HARD To Pull? Check This Simple Fix! Stihl MS280
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- Does your chainsaw feel like it has way too much compression? Today we go over some of the most common reasons why you might be having this issue and how to repair it all by yourself to save you time, money and frustration in the future!
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My name is Bre. I took two years of small engine repair at the local college. When I left school, I fell into a wonderful job at a local small engine shop where I worked the counter for a couple years. In 2010 my husband and I opened up our own small engine shop in central Arkansas where I am able to work alongside my family and best friends. We saw over 2,000 pieces of small engine equipment every year, and answer 1,000's of small engine questions. We specialize in brands such as Briggs and Stratton, Kohler, Echo and Shindaiwa, but work everyday on MANY other brands like Stihl, Husqvarna, Honda, Craftsman, Remington, Red Max, Troy Bilt, Scag, Bad Boy, Hustler, World Lawn, Poulan, Mantis, Etc.. Hopefully, my experience I share, will save you Time, Money and Frustration in the future!
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Although very informative, these videos are for entertainment purposes. Please use all possible safety precautions when repairing and operating your small engine equipment.
That feeling of finally accomplishing getting it to run after so much trouble is just amazing
This saw was was full of herrings.
It's even more rewarding to watch somebody else do it.
Don't have a chainsaw, don't need a chainsaw, unlikely to ever have a chainsaw, but I find myself mesmerized by these videos. So interesting, so well produced, a pleasure to watch.
I don't need a chainsaw either, but i still have around 80 of the critters. It is never too late to start collecting - look for free ones, at dumps, scrap piles, garage sales. And stay away from Chinese ones!
@@leifvejby8023
Or if you do collect Chinese ones...
you should keep all bits and bobs from the ones you junk so you can make one "good" one out of five...
If they are all free you can make money with them by using them for 100 hours of cutting...
just use a top class bar and chain....
and let her rip!
@@JohnSmith-pl2bk The only good Chinese saws I have ever seen were dead ones! :-D But yes, supply your own spare parts.
That is so kind of you to let me know! Thanks!
I’ve got one I bought to cut down a tree in yard. Had an electric one but needed a chain. Bought an Oregon 16” bar, brand new wouldn’t start? Had a crappy spark plug torch or something. Changed plug and ran right away, dropped tree right on top of deck!!!! SHIT. Repaired deck and put saw away👍
Well, anybody and everybody who has ever worked on a piece of machinery has had a day like this. Difference is you showed us yours...kudos, keep the content coming
Yup, I call it tunnel vision.....
As an elevator mechanic I have many days like this.
As mechanics/technicians we have to know how to check each thing throughly and then we can move on to the next step in troubleshooting.
Or our professional lives will be miserable.
Amazing, your fortitude, patience, and stubbornness to accept defeat. People like me keep people like you in business. Love it.
Every so often, life says you are getting alittle too cocky, so it sends us a ball buster of a problem. Well done.
Wrong gonads.
YOU Chickanic showed us what a true mechanic really IS. You did your best to find the problem and fix it. You are not the other kind of mechanics out there that only swaps out parts they think are the cause of the problems. YOU did the hard work to find the real issue but only discovered there were many issues inside and outside. Two thumbs up for YOU dear Chickanic !! God bless you and your honesty and hard work.
I have a 026 2000 model .I am 80an hav to put chain bar i vice pour chain saw gas on air cleaner an pull, let it warm up a little an it idles like a clock & not hard to crank if it don’t cool off much. Livingston parish La. 9/8/24 Herb
There is no way I would have had the patience needed for that saw, but sometimes the reward of figuring the tough ones out is worth it. One of your best videos ever, thanks.
I know I know, I say this on almost every video: But I love watching these. They're super interesting and...I do zero work on engines and such.
😅
I would see if his coil was oem
You suckered me in to watch this to the end. I have one of these chainsaws so I needed to know what it was. Good job fixing the problem.
You have the patience of a saint. Hope your shoulder gets better soon!
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one that has days like this , lol
When it comes to chainsaws, I'd like to have some days that are NOT like this!
@@OneWildTurkey things like chainsaws and weed eaters are why the trebuchet was invented.
You missed the warning label. Can Of Worms, Do Not Open!!!!😂😂😂
Saws like this are why I started checking everything before doing anything. A saw clearly not well taken care of combined with someone hanging junk parts that didn't know what they were doing. Things tend to spiral and no one likes those kinds of surprises. Good video!
The Chain Saw wizard Bre did it again!...Love you...!
A long time ago.... I had traded a Quadrajet carb overhaul on a pickup in exchange for a Craftsman chainsaw. Hard pull at times ended up being the clutch gear where the chain rides was cast with one side flat! Next and just like your chainsaw it would run and stall. Many hours later I find that the side cover on the carb was never drilled out for the pulse to the diaphragm!
Many hours of frustration but determination like you.
I was a mechanic at a Chevy dealer and I believe age 17 at the time, now 64 and tons of diagnostics on everything from small engines to busses (26 years on the buses). Freshly retired and some lady just pulled in my drive while I was working on my P/U and asked-while seated in her golf cart- if I could work on her truck! Nope! Final answer!
I really enjoy watching you "work"!
That's a ton of work, plus the time to edit. Thank you for your content!
similar, i only work on my own and sometimes close family .
Wow , I know how frustrating this can be having worked on and rebuilt many engines.
You persevere and solve the problems so well, while keeping the cost minimal for the customer.
You are a Star, I love your videos and have picked up pointers I was not aware of until seeing you in action.
You are Truely Amazing and an excellent Trouble Shooter ..... Bravo !!
Yeah, I’m the neighborhood free/cheap mechanic. Guaranteed for life. Retired and re-tired… but I get cookies and …stuff.
I was tired out just watching you work on that boat anchor, but you fixed it !!!
After 40 years in the repair business I am certain the best tool we need to have is patience,thank you for sharing your knowledge and your example,we love us some chickanic around here 😊
You’re simply the best! Thank You 😃. Should be mandatory every man have a wife like you!!
Is it just me or is a woman that's not afraid to get her hands dirty super, super sexy?
Not really, mine she is a diesel mechanic and the whole house smells like diesel 😂
That is one law that should never see the light of day.
Girl, You have so much patience and a Don't give up attitude . Your awesome. Enjoyed watching .
I have to say, this was the best video on RUclips for this style of content! I laughed, cried, was shocked, and overall could relate SOOO well. This is reality - no polish, no second takes... just real. Thank you for great content, and the entertainment factor for this was off the chart.
Took me a couple weeks to get around to leaving a comment, but this should be a must watch for anyone who does their own small engine repair or even professionals for that matter. Kepp up the great work! Shoping at your store right now - getting my Ethanal Sheild!
Well done Bre. Many would have trashed it. Perseverance is Key! You have it.
Thanks for the ride.
You are one hell of a technician that thing was a nightmare
I really don't know how you people(mechanics) have so much patience and tenacity to do this kind of work!! I retired as a lineman so I understand problem solving but when it comes to small engines, you guys switch your frustration into motivation and just never give up...nice job and great video!
It's the same with electronics. Things that *should* work don't, and trying to understand why is didn't work leads to things that *shouldn't* work fixing it.
I didn't get any blisters, but I was tired from watching all your efforts!
congrats!
I was working on an old Toro lawnmower with my grandson who was here in Calgary from Lawton, OK. The lawnmower usually starts with one pull even after sitting during the winter. (It has a Tecumseh engine with a priming bulb.) I tried a variety of things. Then I said that we should check the spark plug. We installed a new spark plug and the lawnmower started right away.
I am full of admiration for your determination, 10/10
You are a very persistent mechanic, Bre!! Well done 👍. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Bre, I absolutely love your “Can do” attitude. Your years of experience are inspiring.
One thing I got out of all this is to hang on to old chainsaws for parts. OEM is the way to go for replacement and repairs for you never know what you got until you open 'er up. Good instructional video.
Great video today! Even though at my age, 70+, I'm not doing my own yardwork and/or equipment maintenance anymore, I thoroughly enjoy your videos. You do a great job and provide a good service worthy of high praise and respect for not only your talents, but your ability to communicate in a sane, rational, and logical manner whilst still showing what a decent human being you are! Good Job, Well Done!
You remind me a lot of another of my favorite RUclipsrs, that being Scotty Kilmer. You're both great and I hope you both keep on fighting the good fight...Thanks again.
Same
@@gerardjohnson2106 Get off yer duffs, youngsters!!! Doing yardwork and maintenance is what keeps us
*YOUNG* and ornery!! Stay well, and happy gardening!
You should do your own stuff ,at 70 you are just entering the prime of life. I am doing more yard work and maintenance than ever at 71 ,my wife at 78 says it will keep me young.
@@davidkettell5726 You bet! At 74, I'm still in my prime, because of gardening, yardwork, and mechanical projects. Also into Cowboy Action Shooting. STAY YOUNG!!!
@@davidkettell5726 - I appreciate your reply, however, you do not know the circumstances of my not doing stuff! You seem to be assuming that I have a choice in the matter, where in reality, I actually do not.
Like the Master Chief said in the movie GI Jane..."Assumptions are the mother of all f*ckups!"
You might want to think before you tell someone else what to do. Cheers!
Hey, I loved this video soo much! I have been tinkering with small engines since my earliest childhood and thats roughly 50 years ago... I am not a professional but learned it by myself by watching and listening to the real guys. Usually when helping friends and myself with these types of engines I find and repair all of the obvious stuff and get them and me happy. But sometimes all the knowledge and experience of the past decades does not apply. To me watching you as a far more experienced mechanic than I will ever be struggling to find all these issues (which I guess are not common in daily business in this combination) was a nice help and support to my own (hobby)work! Thank you so much! Kind regards from Germany
Love the Summit Racing banner in the background. I’m 60 years old and have watched Summit Racing grow from a local speed in Akron, Ohio back in the 1980’s, to what it is today.
I used to be a tool tech at a large, orange, big box store. A customer brought in a Stihl gas powered hedge trimmer and needed a new pull cord installed. I thought, no problem. I'll have this done in ten minutes. Three days later, I finally had the new cord installed. I had no idea how overly complicated Stihl made this recoil starter. After pulling off the recoil cover I saw that I had to remove the recoil pulley, because the cord knot was on the bottom, not on the top where it would've been a 10 minute job. When I removed the pulley, the spring popped out. Unlike normal engineers, Stihl's engineers decided to not only use a spring with a compound curve, but it had to be wound and inserted inside stanchions on the bottom of the housing. Because the really long spring was under so much tension and the stanchions were so short, it was impossible for me to wind the spring inside the stanchions without it popping right back out. Replacing the cord was the easy part. I had to fabricate out of PVC the equivalent of a watchmaker's tool to wind up a mainspring, then very quickly pop it inside the stanchions before it tried to unwind. That took three days of modifying the tool and numerous times attempting to pop it into place quickly enough.
Maybe Stihl has a special tool to accomplish this. I've never worked on another one since and never will work on another one. Once was more than enough for me.
Amazing. Good for you, sir.
Same happened on my MS180.
I bought a new starter assembly off Amazon.
Junky replacement, but it works.
The old one and spring are sitting patiently in a box somewhere
waiting for me to build that special PVC tool you built....
Maybe the customer knew what was involved... and asked you to do it!
Well done for finding a way to get it done.
I think stilhl products suck for reasons like what you mentioned
I can feel your excitement when you finally got it working. I'm an FSE for a medical laser company for over 10 yrs.
Because of my experience most laser issues I come across are easy fixes but once in a while I'll get a laser that seems
to defy logic making me even question If I know wtf I'm doing , but when I finally get it it feels so good. Great to see you enjoy your victory.👍
And I thought my wife was the Queen of Patience! I've had many days like this. Part of the program.
"Whew, that one was a lot! Well done bringing it back to life. You are a great Mechanic!" 👏👏👏
Bree, You have the patience of Job. This chainsaw tested your knowledge and YOUR PATIENCE. Good job.
Worked as a mechanic for a good part of my life, and I remember those days. They were the days when I learned more in one day than I did sometimes in a month. As you say, you can't charge the customer for everything, so as my Father who worked over 60 years as a mechanic used to say, "You have to pay for your education boy". Those days you paid and learned.
This may be one of your best videos, at least in my book. It is too bad you don't have the time to film more of this type. I also have a Husky that pulls hard, and I am going to pull it apart soon and check the issues you showed.
This is a great video. You covered a lot of issues, far beyond when many would have run out of patience. Definitely a win !
Glad to see it's not just me
Customer just wanted a break for being on the channel lol. Channel hall of fame nomination! Blister saw 2024
Drawing blood, busted knuckles or cuts always rated a surcharge . Blisters fall in the same category. Customers prior attempts at fixing and failing also rate a surcharge. Great video!
❤you are amazing!!! I can't believe that you have so much patience. Every blister should be worth at least $25.
It’s easy to get distracted into following a certain line of thinking. Don’t be too hard on yourself. In the car world, it’s good to establish baseline function of the systems. You figured it out. Good job!
You’re awesome, I hate working on two strokes. Canada 🇨🇦 loves your skill set
I love the blister surcharge.
retired now but I had over 40 years workin on small engines belive me I do not miss it
Well, it was a heck of a battle, but you WON! You're the best!
Wish I'd seen this a month ago before I gave an old saw away with this same issue. I'd checked the first two but didn't know about the rewind assembly.
So happy that all your repairs go a lot better than this one did. Bless your heart.
I've had 50/50 luck with Amazon carburetors. Even the ones that don't work usually include some gaskets, fuel line, purge bulbs and filters. I keep them because the individual parts would cost more than the whole package.
Great videos. Thanks.
That was amazing! Having run an all-women mechanic crew in an Oklahoma State Prison for several years, I recognize talent when I see it and was once again very impressed with the abilities of a woman. What a gift you have! Kudos for seeing that project through! A good mechanic is hard to find; a great mechanic is darn near impossible. You should post the name of your shop, people watching your videos would bring you plenty of business. (I liked and subscribed to your channel). Keep up the good work, and thanks for posting this video!
I diagnosed a chainsaw with a bad coil.
I am SO disgusted at the garbage aftermarket coils sold on AMZ. Thank yous and apologies to all who purchased the product and reviewed those junk coils and let the rest of us know to steer clear of them.
Fortunately, an OEM coil was available from PartsTree.
WOW great patience and determination.
😚
Good morning Bre. Nice weather today! Yay a nice Saturday in August in Arkansas!!!!! 😀
Hey Dave! Yup! I'm sitting poolside watching the chickens at the moment.
@@Chickanic NICE!! 😎
You're awesome! Nice job diagnosing & fixing. You have the patience of Job.
I can not believe your patience. amazing.
I probably have at least a dozen chainsaws do all my own work. I still enjoy watching these videos and I'd like to say I usually hate music on RUclips videos, but this lady has some enjoyable music that goes right along with what she's doing. Well done ! Hello, yes hello. I've been working on my own chainsaws for 50 years. I still learn stuff.
That was fun to watch. I suspect that the coil was the problem all along and led to someone firing the parts cannon at the saw and failing. 😂
Or, as they say in baseball...a swing and a miss!
It would have NEVER ran with that gasket blocking the impulse hole so…..no, the coil was not the only issue.
@@andybecker2693 I'm saying the original problem was the coil. The first person trying to fix it thought it was the carburetor, and changed it. When they did that, they put the gasket over the impulse port. Had they just brought it to Brie, she would have found the bad coil right away and saved the customer time, money and frustration.
@@Rick_Kn You are right about the original problem being the coil. The customer definitely created the other issues.
You ROK Young lady.. TY So much for helping this community..
Much love n respect .
I thought the Stihl equipment had a lifetime warranty on ignition coils. I got a free replacement on a Stihl string trimmer coil about 15 years ago!
They have a standard short warranty period for homeowners and a very small one for commercial users. Coils are not any special separate warranty.
It's all education so take all the time required Thanks for the 100% honesty it's so nice for a change to have truth!
Great video Bre!!! I see a lot of starter issues on the Assist Starts as people still try to pull the rope out of the saw starting it…. Messes up assist spring, pawls, broken starter sprocket and broken ropes.
It took a while to get it figured out why it wouldn,t run right but you got it. You never give up on the project which I thick is inspiring, and why I love to watch your video,s. Keep up the good work. Hope your man is doing good. Guess he is walking around pretty good by now. Take care.
you are like the wizard of small engines thank you for your videos
Persistence is an admirable quality. You possess it.
Although this has nothing to do with this video in particular, I wanted to say thank you for a video you made on a husqvarna 18.5 riding mower where the pressure relief valve broke. I had the exact same problem with one extra, the timing gear had also broken in half, and as a result I have that videa cued up on my tablet to watch each step in how to put it back together. You are a life saver (by the way I ordered the exact parts you stated in the video) and I can't say thank you enough. keep up the great work!
I watch many different technicians on Facebook but you stand head and shoulders above all. So methodical. Love to watch you
I have a small shop out of my garage, I learned my lesson long time ago with aftermarket crap just not worth my time , customers dont like to hear the price of stuff but they want it fix LOL
Yea they can cry and I don’t mind
Pay or leave it 😢
I'm in awe of your patience, well done.
Perseverance..You are so excellent...You give me hope when I want to give up...thanx..😊
Yippee, it is running great but had multiple problems. I am very impressed you figured out all the problems especially the hardest: intermittent coil failure.
You are so good at what you do when working on any engine. I really enjoy your videos!
She is so gooooood. Im picking up so much from articulate explanations. Awesome diagnosis
Good thing youtube pays you a bit because that saw sure didn't.
I would have never expected my late evening catch up with my favorite small engine repair gal would be so entertaining. 😆
And yes, educational as always.
If your chainsaw has too much compression, Stihl 250 enter the chat.
Ain't that the truth! LOL
I used caster oil on my dark spots there almost gone thanks for the tip and all of the great small engine videos
You have invented the "chainsaw-shaped exercise machine."
@@Chickanicmy chainsaw has zero compression, but still runs??? How can this be??? Can you help me with my Milwaukee M18 chainsaw??? They must have hid the recoil somewhere I can’t find it??? At least the shoulder feels great!!!
250 is junk throwaway saw
This video brings back memories; had all your same frustrations when I was working on a customer’s chainsaw, different brand; your videos are so informative and fun to watch; l look for a new one every week, please keep them coming; have a great day. Jeff’s Small Engine Repair, Memphis, TN
Good job but damn, that was a lot of work! After that, you need a hot shower, a cold drink, two aspirin, and THE REST OF THE DAY OFF!
I have learned so much from you. Being the owner of a couple of Stihl chainsaws your information is gold. You are a legend. Cheers from Australia.
When a job goes bad . . . It goes Bad All The Way!
Welcome to My World!
Sorry about that.
Congratulations for hanging in there until you worked ALL the problems out.
You deserve a well earned
CELEBRATION!!
Love the adventure of fixing this chain saw. Sometimes it an easy fix, then other times it’s a challenge. I had a similar problem with a Deere 345, I had put a cheaper aftermarket carb on. Then thought it was the fuel pump. Ended up being the time delay module!👍🏼
he owes u Dinner for real , your the best
As I have said before, I love watching your videos! I probably will never be doing any small engine repair, but I am a life-long learner. I enjoy learning about anything and everything. I was worn out watching you battle with this chain saw. A lot of people would have given up, but being the experienced professional you are, you met the challange head-on. I know that feeling! You will not let this thing beat you! I could feel the great joy you felt when finally getting it to run. There is no better feeling then when you realized you overcame. Bravo! I felt like jumping up and down in victory!
I picked up an 028 in a pawn shop in '87. Still running strong, but there have been a couple of episodes that required bad language & alcohol! Your patience & persistence are the best!
Luv your videos. Thanks and keep it up!
One of the all time best videos I have ever watched ..... Nice job ... Thanks for sharing ...
Great job Bre!! I understand the frustration completely! I have an Eager
Beaver McCulloch saw that I ended up tearing apart 13 times before it was fixed. It had fire when apart an NO fire when I put it together... but sometimes it did. Turns out that the insulation on the kill wire out of the coil was oil soaked and would, at times, ground out to the case. Added a piece of shrink tube insulation to the kill wire and it now, FINALY, runs like a new one!
How much thought and effort you put into this saw is amazing! I have used many of your videos to troubleshoot my own issues. Thank you from an old (75) retired dude that just keeps on going for some unknown reason.
My working career was as a mechanic on cars, then farm and construction equipment then on industrial equipment. Al my life I've been fixxin stuff and you Ma'am, are the best, most effective and entertaining teacher, instructor that I have ever trained under. Yuda Best- better than all the rest and I must thank for your great works!
You are amazing! My husband and I just love your videos. You have helped us be able to fix so many things around our house. We both think you are just golden!
We have 5 or six chainsaws. Only one working right now, but we're making headway thanks to you bre!
Priceless video, I was as frustrated as you but I'm so glad I watched it to the end. Thanks for your perseverance while navigating the money pit issues. What a ride. Thanks again Chickanic. You're a genius and a joy to watch. I've learned so much from you. Next time a big Stihl has an issue I'm not going to take it to the shop. I'm going to tackle it myself! I hope your hubby is healing up well.
I admire your patience,,I was the chainsaw/ 2 stroke Guy at a repair shop many years ago, I understand how they work how to keep them happy,,obviously you have this knowledge so I respect you very much,,many self proclaimed mechanics avoid working on chainsaws,,but you are bold ,,beautiful,,and confident ❤
The 'best' video so far. You're tenacious and you keep it real...that's why I watch your videos.
Great video! I just did that on a Husqvarna. Ended up being the aftermarket carb AND the coil. What a PITA to figure out!
In 10 minutes,you have become my most favorite RUclips star. The most informative and entertaining video I have seen in 10 years. Subscribed and shared
Kudos to you chicknix! You hung in there and figured it out! I get you, I was a former diagnostic smog tech. These ice machines can sometimes drive one crazy!!
I feel better now. You did everything exactly as I would have done, with exactly the same results. Nice to know that someone shares my Karma, LOL !
Your perseverance is remarkable. I have an 026 with the same problem but it pulls through easy with the spark plug removed. It was starting and running fine before I let it sit for a few years. But, you've given me a few hints for things to check. Thanks.
What a perfect storm of SNAFUs! How do you even know what to charge for such a fiasco? Sometimes you have to just take one for the team and call it a teaching opportunity. And a chance to make a great video! Just be glad you filmed this one; no one would have believed it!
I love to watch you figure out the problems. Your experience is priceless. Thanks for sharing this information