Why we all FORGOT about Violetshine (Warrior Cats)
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2021
- Out of all the A Vision of Shadows protagonists, Violetshine is the one I remember the least about. Thankfully Sunnyfall joined my for this video!
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Intro by Lapis Feder: / @lady_luzifer 
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Violetshine suffered Female Protagonist Disease. Where the authors give her lots of screen time, little depth, and then make her pregnant so that they can make the next arc’s protagonist her spawn so readers can go “OH THEY’RE RELATED TO [Insert Female Protag Name Here]”.
You're right
Thats the worst…
Uhh, there are countless toms that do absolutely nothing.
@@TheAshfurApologist lionblaze, alderheart, firestar after the power of three
@Bramblepaw
Dovewing at least gets a lot of dialogue and *an actual relationship* with Shadowsight that matters plot-wise. This isn’t the case for Violetshine and Rootspring, who never talk to each other.
Edit : It works better with Ivypool, who she and Fernsong have barely any relationship at all with Bristlefrost.
I didn’t exactly forget about violetshine, I liked her name so I just- made ocs inspired by her
same- I made a oc names violetleaf
Same! And I fricking love Violetshine. I made an OC named VioletStep
Yes :D
Didn’t we all like her name 😭😭 but other than that I never really liked her character.
I made a oc named after her! Her name is violettuft
The Violetpaw Twigpaw arc was literally just Dovepaw and Ivypaw under different circumstances imo. Especially how Twigpaw and Ivypaw were both held captive by ShadowClan. Violetshine and Tree was so rushed to me and it was an awful attempt at romance. Twigbranch and Finleap had potential at the beginning, but the last book of the arc completely butchered him.
It’s a small world after all
Hi again :D
I really only liked Needle and Alder. Twig was pretty good. But the plot with Darktail was pretty good imo. Darktail, you are lovely :D
@@thatoneduckle4583 I really did Like Needle and Alder. But didn’t they just ship her with some random rouge in the end?
@@GhostlyMoonWitch yeah, pretty much. You didn't see that a lot though. I think it was just so Alder and Needle didn't have something. And to have needle have a love purpose?
@@thatoneduckle4583 Yes, but that was really disappointing. Rain (I think that was his name) Barely lived a book and was extremely boring. Characters that exist with the single purpose to be the love interest of a major character aren’t my thing. I wouldn’t hurt to have a small thing going on with Needle and Alder. Having something between those two would actually be somewhat interesting and bring something new to the “Med cat and other clan cat banging” cliche.
I never forgot violetshine! You can't forget if you never knew she existed!
😂😂
Roasted
They should've made Darktail "adopt" her because he sees how unhappy she is, and make the kin treat her like a princess until she becomes loyal to them, at which point things go downhill. Make the Kin into more of a cult who start to demand more and more from her.
That'd b cool
That would've been so much more interesting
OMG going to write a fanfic on this rn-
@@serenitythesiren5031 Yesssssss! Go for it!
This would of been way more reasonable, with who Darktail is
I still like Violetshine! Shes my favourite character
's mate. Tree is my favourite.
I have to agree she isn't very relavent anymore though. Its sad.
You had me in the first half, not gonna lie
same
Yeah, is it weird I think Tree's one of the _few_ likeable characters in this arc? He's charismatic, funny, and at least he had the guts to stand up to Finleap.
@starfruit545 LMAO I actually got myself 😭 I don't remember writing this, and I was thinking, "I don't remember Violetshine being my favourite- oh"
Reading her sadness and loneliness while she was in the den cuddling the feather Twig gave her after their meeting was so freakin sad. I thought Violetshine would have developed into a villain herself as she struggled to find where she belonged, but it happened pretty quickly
Now I really wanna see an evil Violetshine
@@Hailpaws Warriors Fans: Hey, Ferb! I know what we're gonna do today!
Pov: u read a few comments abt a character that u haven’t even read abt but like and now r making an au based off of those comments cause it’s better than the actual storyline
I love the character Violetshine was supposed to be, but i don’t like the character she was written as. If that makes sense.
@@catnipcrash now that you mention it-
I really liked Violetshine when she was a 'kit and 'paw. But after Darktail died and she became a warrior, she just wasn't as interesting anymore and reading her chapters became pretty boring.
Same goes for the entirety of A Vision of Shadows, lol
This perfectly illustrates my opinion as well, because by the end of AVOS, Twigbranch was the only character I was actually invested in.
Yeah, I feel like the arc kinda fell apart after Darktail died, the first few books are probably my favorites in the series but as soon as he’s killed it just gets boring, they really should have left him alive until the last or even second to last book and have the last book be about the recovery because he was the big bad of the arc and it’s normally not recommended to kill the main antagonist half way through the story
Edit: and they also should have given Needle a longer redemption arc before her big dramatic death
Violetshine had and has attachment issues because of the trauma she endured (having her mother die and father gone at a young age, and being ripped away from her original adoptive family / clan). As someone both educated on and with trauma, it does not make people (or cats in this case) make rational decisions or assumptions. Violetpaw thought Twigpaw abandoned her because of this.
It's also the same reason she would have stayed with Needletail and The Kin despite not approving or being treated well. She was traumatized and still living in the traumatic situation.
Taking her trauma into account, her choice to just follow along with what's going on around her and her perception of her relationships makes a lot more sense.
Violetshine was one of my favourite characters in A Vision of Shadows because I felt like I could relate to her struggles a lot, and because she did the whole spy thing way better than Ivypool.
Also, I think her relationship with Tree is cute, even though it wasn't developed much.
But in The Broken Code, she's been pretty much non - existent.
What is she doing, while her son is hanging out in the Dark Forest?
Oh Violetshine, what happened to you?
I agree
I know-
I feel like Violetshine would be much more concerned about her son than Tree would, or as equally concerned.
IKR??
Ikr, I feel like the only cats who were actually worrying about Rootspring were Bristlefrost (obviously) and Tree. What happened to Violetshine? She didn’t show any concern. Even worse, she didn’t even APPEAR at the moonpool ONCE.
Also I agree! I love her so much more than I like Ivypool. She’s my 6th favourite character. I used to like Ivypool much more but now.. I just don’t like her as much. I also enjoyed violetshine’s spying much more than I did with Ivypool’s
Twigbranch is so much more interesting than Violetshine tbh. Twigpaw was super annoying at first but determined to find her family. She grew into an honorable young cat who breaks rules to find her happiness. Even when finding her family she feels disconnected. She’s the only female cat I can think of who actually didn’t want kits, and stood up against her mate. She was also bad with other kits which I found interesting considering she was so into family as a kit. Idk I just am really fond of Twigbranch and wish she had more content
Hollyleaf didn't want a mate or kits either I believe.
Twigbranch seemed to want kits, just not so young. I'd say Hollyleaf was moreso a cat who didn't want kits at all.
Yeah, Twigbranch is seriously underrated. She's not appreciated enough in this fandom.
I loved Violetpaw, but I kinda had mixed thoughts when she was Violetshine.
Same
I could honestly relate to ViolentShine in the books when she was an apprentice/kit
The needlessly bullying is what I could relate to the most as well as the fact that she couldn’t really *fit in* as I like to say
Mostly because I’ve been in these situations more than a child really should be in my life
VioleNTshine? Uhh...
I really need to reread VoS the whole arc is just a blur from middle school
Read the first four and then skip to the Sleekwhisker scene in River of Fire. That's all that's worth reading imo.
THANK YOU for bringing up Needletail's treatment of Violetshine. EVERYONE just GUSHES over Needle's sacrifice and I'm just like "Yeah she was still a bad cat who probably shouldn't have been allowed into StarClan BECAUSE SHE LITERALLY HELPED ROGUES TAKE OVER SHADOWCLAN AND WAS ABUSIVE TOWARDS A KIT." But for some reason the fandom just loves her.
Well, at least she got a chance
In my opinion i could see why you say that lol but this is my opinion she ended up kinda redeeming herself by saving violet shine and attempting to kill dark tail but yea in no way was her actions good but that’s my opinion lol
yeah i never liked Needletail for the influence she did to Violetshine's character
I like needle tail as a villain. I consider she doesn’t rlly have a side, because he’s she didn’t always treat violet shine that good in the end she made a sacrifice
She’s a bad cat but if ashfur made it to starclan so should her
I really don’t like how all the huge characters in the arc are now basically side characters
i actually never exactly “forgot” about violet shine. I really like protagonists who are antagonistic, those including Ivypool, Hollyleaf and Violetshine. Violetshine, though, is probably my least favourite of the three though, but i never really just forgot about her. Also, AHHHH YOU’RE REALLY CLOSE TO 100K!!
My favourite ship in warriors is Violetshine and Tree!
Akira: Her romance with Tree is bad
Me: *Snaps phone*
It was so rushed
@@Clooover I know but I still thought I was cute
Tree thinks bush. How could anyone *not* fall in love with him right away
@@honeystream9499 THANK YOU!!
Pika he doesn’t think bush, he is bush.
I loved Violetshine(and love Needletail) as a paw. It was an interesting perspective and story- but now she’s just.. there.
( I have to say tho I forget about what she actually did in VoS. I just knew I liked her. I’m rereading VoS, because my memory is- Darktail- uh, Onestar dies.
My favorite character got horrible treatment, RIP.
Aren’t you a admin in the warrior cats wiki
@@Inv_Enot No, but I'm one of their Discord moderators.
I think VioletShine's problem is that she's so used to abuse, but sticks to her abuser bcuz she knows nothing else. So when TwigPaw doesn't stay with her, she's feeling like she's gonna be alone and abused again.
Tree is her only way out now.
Plus, she has attachment issues
violetshine was one of my favourite character. i feel like she suffered a lot during her kithood which scarred her a lot and the only cat that ever paid any slightly posiitve attention to her that she could talk to at the time was needle, which was her sort of getting attached to her and getting this odd mindset thst needle was the only one that cared about her. i thought that violet developed, well. . . trust issues with her treatment which was why she was so cautious towards twig, etc.
needle was unnessarily cruel to her and manipulated her and stuff, forcing her to follow her and making her feel guilty for wanting to see twig, making her feel bad about liking and loving twig and wanting to see her and resulted in her not trusting twig very much. her trauma from everything the kin and needle and shadowclan and everyone put her through may be the reason she was so reluctant to forgive twig, perhaps fearing that twig might use her like needle did if she forgave her, but i may just be paying too much attention to small details.
even after needle's death, needle tried to make her feel guilty for wanting to do what *she* (violet) wanted and not listening to needle for once.
i like to think that tree helped her trust easier and settle down and live the peaceful, happier life she always dreamed of and wanted since she was a kit.
i dont know, i just love her. her name is cute, i sort of like her personality, her design is pretty, i related to her and her sitiuation a lot during reading which may be why i love her so much.
i just love her. idm if people dont though. :)
I know this comment is like, two years old, but I'd like to share my thoughts if that's alright lol.
don't think Needle was using Violet on purpose. I just reread AVoS a couple days ago, and while yeah I can admit Needle might not've made the best choices for Violet's wellbeing, I believe she genuinely cared about Violet and was trying to help her. Her heart was in the right place.
She didn't intend for Violet to hate her sister (her and Alderpaw set meetings for them at first, actually), but once Twigpaw and the rest of ThunderClan became her enemy, she had to stay loyal to her group. What makes you feel Needle was unnecessarily cruel and mistreated her? Because how I interpreted it was that Needle tried her best to be a friend for Violetpaw, but her best wasn't great.
Needle was the only cat nice to her, and instead of manipulating her to follow her, I think she was only trying to include her, because she cared about her. This is shown with her Sacrifice. You know? Maybe the reason Violet was afraid to open up to Twig was because she worried that if she trusted anyone again, she'd lose them like how she lost Needletail.
To be honest I actually shed a tear when Juniperclaw died. I don’t know why but when he died my whole entire perspective of him changed.
Maybe Violetshine needs her own novella so we can finally experience growth, like after the Vision of Shadows books but before the next arc. Might make her a more relatable and likable character if we see more into her.
Also I think you should do a video of (in your opinion) the Top 10 Worst cats in the warriors books. I feel like it should be based off of their development and just if they are likable or not likable. (Don't know if you have already done this probably have but just an idea P:)
Thats a good idea, i agree
I really think that they should have made Needletail the pov character for ShadowClan and the Kin. She was the one hurt most by Rain's death, and she could have served better as a ghost talking through Tree in the second half of the arc, this making his powers a bit more useful. Twigbranch would have been the only kit in her litter, not that it changes much because her conflict with Violetshine didn't change much in the plot. SkyClan still would have been found by her, she still would have stayed with them for a bit for her dad before leaving, ect.
That would've been awesome. A completely antagonistic protagonist that goes through so much development. Love that.
Somewhat unrelated, but I love Sunnyfall's design.
Same lol
“Oh akira, fancy seeing you here on your own channel”
I didn't forget violetshi- oh wait who were they again?
Reading Spotfurs rebellion, finishing it a day ago, i admit i forgot about Violetshine. I actually remembered her when i saw Twigbranch named as a codebreaker and saw her at the rebels meeting.
*hears the name Needletail in the first minute*
I HAVE BEEN SUMMONED
I HAVE AN IDEA FOR THE NEXT VIDEO!!!
Title: How did Raggedstar almost doom all the clans? or Why does Raggedstar belong in the Dark Forest?
I like the first one better...
Raggedstar appointed his son deputy, only to have all his lives ripped away from him by his own son and deputy (against the warrior code). This is the main mistake he made, and the following happened because of this:
This led to Brokentail becoming Brokenstar.
Brokenstar led war against WindClan, eventually driving them out of the forest.
If it wasn't for Fireheart and Graystripe, WindClan would probably have been lost forever.
In the battles with WindClan, Brokenstar gained many followers and many enemies. He also killed or seriously injured and traumatized many cats.
He thought so much about bloodshed that he forced three-moon-old kits of his own clan to become apprentices (this is also against the warrior code).
So many ShadowClan apprentices died, including Mosspaw, Volepaw, and Badgerfang, that Brokenstar ordered his deputy, Blackfoot, to attempt to steal kits from ThunderClan. Blackfoot kills Rosetail the elder (against the warrior code) in this battle (he was also very scared about reporting to Brokenstar about the failure, despite being his deputy and closest follower).
Brokenstar then killed his grandmother, Brightflower's (he doesn't know he is her grandson at this point) kits, and they are also his aunt and uncle. He blames the murders on Yellowfang, his own mother and medicine cat, (but at this point he again doesn't know), and exiles her.
After a while, Brokenstar orders another patrol to attack ThunderClan and steal kits, leading to the death of Spottedleaf and Lionheart, and Cinderkit, Brackenkit, Ashkit, and Fernkit were taken to ShadowClan.
This led to ThunderClan attacking ShadowClan, and Brokenstar was driven out along with many of his followers.
Brokenstar then wanders onto ThunderClan territory (I forgot why, but he did) and is blinded by Yellowfang and held prisoner in ThunderClan's camp.
He plots with Tigerclaw of ThunderClan and his followers to get himself broken out and Bluestar killed. This plan fails, and Tigerclaw is exiled and Brokenstar is fed deathberries by Yellowfang, ultimately ending his life.
Tigerclaw becomes leader of Brokenstar's followers.
Tigerclaw attacks a ThunderClan patrol, killing Runningwind, and when Fireheart investigates, Whitethroat is chased onto the Thunderpath and dies.
Tigerclaw and his followers go to ShadowClan territory and find the clan in ruins due to a harsh sickness. They offer to hunt and care for the clan, earning the trust and support of the weakened warriors.
Nightstar dies from the sickness, and due to the fact that Brokenstar was still alive when Nightpelt became leader, he was not gifted nine lives. Therefore, Nightstar journeys to StarClan.
Tigerclaw, with the support of ShadowClan, becomes leader of ShadowClan, journeying to the Moonstone to earn nine lives.
Whitetail gives him a live to not judge small cats before battle.
Tigerstar, with Blackfoot's (his deputy) help, made a path of rabbits for the dogs, who have settled in Snakerocks, to follow, all the way to the ThunderClan camp. Tigerstar kills Brindleface to let the dogs get a taste for cat blood.
Fireheart, now ThunderClan's deputy, finds Brindleface's corpse outside off camp, and soon traces the rabbit trail all the way back to Snakerocks. He makes a plan for his clan to be saved, but Tigerstar interferes. Fireheart is almost killed, but Bluestar saves him from the jaws of the dogs and she falls into the gorge. She dies beside her son and daughter, Stonefur and Mistyfoot.
Tigerstar and Leopardstar join together to become TigerClan.
Tigerstar orders for Stonefur to be killed. Blackfoot obeys, and kills the former RiverClan deputy.
Boulder takes Tigerstar to the Twolegplace to recruit BloodClan and their leader, Scourge.
Tigerstar, ignoring what Whitetail said, underestimates Scourge, and tries to defeat him, but Scourge easily takes all nine of Tigerstar's lives with a single blow.
Firestar unites all of the clans to become LionClan and defeat BloodClan. During this battle, many cats die.
After Tigerstar dies at the claws of Scourge, Blackfoot must become leader, and during his ceremony, he relives a lot of bad memories, including murdering Stonefur and Rosetail, attempting to steal kits from ThunderClan, and trusting both Tigerstar and Brokenstar. This was true torture to him.
Tigerstar continues to train cats to be evil in the Dark Forest, and then rages a war against the clans, killing a ton of cats, living or dead, including Spottedleaf of StarClan and Firestar (Tigerstar dies as well).
I would also like to point out that Raggedpelt also pressured Yellowfang to have his kits, ending in Yellowfang giving birth to Brokenstar.
He blamed yellow fang for killing the newest kits not killing brightflower
So.. basically "How Brokenstar and Tigerstar were Villains"? I see very little Raggedstar in this.
Sorry I meant Brightflower's kits lol
@@roiroije6326 I meant if Raggetstar didn't make Broke star deputy he couldntve destroyed shadow and Nightstar wouldntve taken over so then Tigerstar couldn't take over shadow
@Bright Wind good point
Violetshine is my favorite. Her story is one of loss and finding your family!
I think it makes perfect sense for her to have kits at the end of the arc, giving her her own family.
Such Violetshine disrespect in these comments :c
Yes
I agree, I love Violetshine. Though she hardly had any screen time in the broken code, she’s one of my favourites in a vision of shadows
There's probably a lot of Violetshine haters because the video is about why Violetshine is a bad character..
I found it SO FUNNY how she was pregnant randomly.
Same. I was genuinely confused when I read that part, because I forgot she liked Tree so much. And also because I expected more build up. But I guess rushing the reveal also works..
@@SavouryGalette Reminds me of when I realized Leafpool was pregnant lol
@@wolfkitty42 Same energy.
Hey bright, yeah I nearly forgot about Violetshine.
OML sunny! I’m so glad more people are recognising her content!
I think violetshine could have worked. I feel like her flaw could have been her longing to be accepted. It's hinted through a lot of the arc that this she cat has serious abandonment issues.
Imagine if they made this the vocal point of her character. She is taken away from her sister, she tries to reach out to her adoptive mother but is pushed away. Needletail is the only one who gives her the time of day other than tawnypelt who is far too busy to be any help.
When needletail takes her to darktail. Violetkit is confused by this but is willing to listen to their ideas. And if needletail is OK with it, maybe it isn't that bad. As time goes on she sees the kin as family. Her conflict with twigpaw come from twigpaw being worried about her sister, criticizing the kin, who violetpaw is incredibly loyal to. It isn't until she sees how horribly needletail is bring treated that she starts to doubt the kin. And while she never agreed with what they did, she was too loyal to the group to ever turn tail. Maybe they Al's shielded her from the more gruesome parts of their plans so she would be more willing to follow them, and bc of her age.
Imagine if darktail had discovered violetshines parentage and used her as leverage against hawk wing. The main battle happens with skyclan included. And hawk wing swallowed his pride choosing to go find his daughter instead of fighting darktail when onestar and his son battle each other to the death.
After shattered sky violetpaw is in pieces. She goes to skyclan in hopes getting to know her father and birth clan would help but, she just feels hollow. She discovered the whole truth about darktail. But blames herself for it, and while she says she blames darktail for this, still holds a bit of loyalty towards him.
Needletail guides violetshine to Tree who is one of the few cats who violetshine can talk to about darktail and how she truly feels. Tree tells her that everyone has parts of their life they regret and helps her cope with what she was a part of and forgive herself, while letting go of darktail.
I legit forgot that Violetshine was Rootsprings mother
SAME
Me: *sees title* I never forgot Violetshine. I forgot about Sleekwhisker though. I don’t remember a thing about her.
Great video, it's amazing to see Sunny on here too! Woo gj Sunny!
CONGRATS FOR 100K SUBS!!!
LOL I just read A Vision of Shadows and I think that all the characters were amazing in their own ways ~~~~~
Right now I am at The Raging Storm💕and I like it a lot,especially Alderheart and Violetshine!
Btw I'm at page 128
XD
YES SUNNY THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU I NEEDED THIS
I just feel like Needletail was like a big sister because Violetshine's sister was separated from her. Needletail was a bit of a bully, but was there when Violetshine needed her. Nobody is perfect.
EXACTLY
Needletail was like a sister who was going through things. She was suffering from neglect, and that formed her to be, well, a rebel. She bullied Violetkit because she had feelings bottling up inside still, but she still sacrificed herself to save Violetpaw.
I would really like to see a warrior cats book where one of the protagonists turns evil at the end or in the middle of the book
I haven’t read mapleshades revenge but I’m pretty sure you can get what ur looking for there
@@annamauer5011 yeah I mean like a full book series lol but I’m going to go read order maple shades revenge
Hooray for Sunnyfall :)
I didn't forget about Violetshine! She and Ivypool are my babies haha
Yay! I love Sunnyfall! She has such a way with words!
OUR QUEEN HAS REACHED 100K!! CONGRATS AKIRA ❤️❤️
OMG!! I just saw that you hit 100K!! That's amazing!! Congrats!🎊🎉🥳
YESSS!! SUNFALL!!!!!
Makes me want an evil violetshine AU!
YESSSSS my two favorite warrior cats channels does a collab!!!!!
There are many other cats who we have povs of just because they’re in the right place at the right time, including Lionblaze in The Power of Three and Omen of the Stars, and Bristlefrost in the Broken Code
I Was Listening To Chill Beatz, Then You Uploaded
Wait who now there's so many cats in these books now it's hard to remember who is who all violetshine did was become a pregnant queen have kits and then become a regular warrior again where did the relationship between violet and tree evenben come from
Yesss sunny!!!
Violetshine is amazing.
Yess
Agreed
Akira: A vision of shado-
SunnyFall: Here I am!
Idk I felt like because Violet’paw liked Twig’paw so much she felt betrayed by her sister. Who had said in the series something along the lines of “ I’m having so much fun with you” sry I haven’t read these books in awhile and Violet’paw took this to an extreme, because she wanted to be with her sister so much. When she left the next day she was disappointed and felt betrayed. Then actually thinking, “ Needle’paw is my only friend.” And, honestly I think it makes sense that with her fallout with her sister, she would be more desperate to do whatever Needle’paw says as to not ruin their “friendship” and after awhile of being fed the same information from darktail, over and over she started to believe it
SUNNY!! I remember when she had like 600 subscribers AAAAAAAA
Sunny: Violetshine
Captions: Violent Shine
LOLOL
Apparently the captions think Violetshine's in murder mode. O.O
dang, this video reminded me that i forgot about violetshine, thanks.
Violetshine is the first character I ever seen when I entred in the fandom, trough a video called Warrior Cats Game and I'll Always remember her 💜
I love violet shine if I’m being honest mainly as an apprentice and as she got older she was less interesting
I loved Violetshine, but this video just smacked sense into me. She’s still my favorite character- kinda.
I liked Violetshines's POVs better because they were in a different setting, ShadowClan and SkyClan and also where most of the action was taking place, whereas I didnt care about Alderheart or Twigbranch's chapters because I was already fed up with ThunderClan, but yeah the only interesting thing is her POVs, the fact that she just witnesses the central conflict, and also because she is a blackandwhite cat, my favorites and I hate they dont get any representation in warriors, they are always that background character that gets killed in an instant or just some random rogue or kittypet
I've just realized, Miss Dako's designs for Darktail and Violetshine look EERILY similar. Same black markings on the rear end of both cats, same black paw, and same black speckles on leg and butt. And same black tail. Makes me wonder if Darktail is Twig and Violet's real dad.
Violetshine was a very loyal cat to the ones she love mainly Twigbranch, Tree ,and Hawkwing(I think). She was really hurt when Twigbranch left with finleap to go back to thunderclan. She eventually had kits with Tree Rootkit and Needlekit. I just finished reading this ark so you're welcome.
I didn't forget her shes still my favorite
hello...am i early? okay ill take that as a yes
congrtas on 100k i watched your vids on my old yt acc and i just checked on your channel again to see 1 0 0 K
There’s a book that gonna be about leopardstar now
So excited for ot!
I was really frustrated by how needlessly mean Needlepaw (and shadowclan) were to Violetkit and soured my opinion of Needletail as a whole. I would have liked her chapters a lot more if she was taken in by Darktail's plans because of resentment towards both Needle and Shadowclan and then realizing how wrong she was
Violetshine was such a wasted opportunity. There's so much about AVoS that you could change to make it infinitely better without changing the over-arcing plot. Most of what people like are the little interactions that are bottled up in smaller asides, like Jayfeather feeling through how to be a mentor and Ivypool struggling to reconcile her family life. The combination of an unpredictable but natural threat in Darktail and the buildup of more background characters made it feel like the series was really starting to work on what the readers care about.. euh...
I like what you suggest with giving Violetkit a different trajectory. Having Violetkit/shine go all in with the Kin gives her a more equal relationship with Needletail and a better way to redeem both of them once they start grasping the consequences of their actions. Her secret meetings with Twigbranch and her genuine connection to the cats around her can be just enough of a moral grounding to get her spark back. And maybe inspire Needletail to admit she cares about cats even though she feels like no one ever cared for her. (Except Alderpaw and the kits, and clan life just ruined all that... from Needlepaw's perspective, the clans were dead set on ripping apart what could have been her found family so of course she continued down a bad path.)
By the time SkyClan arrives Violetshine can share a leading role with the other protagonists as a character who can see the virtue in others/outsiders when others might not, and we would see the end of her character arc as someone who can face harsh truths head on but approach big problems with a lot of empathy. She can still be a little too eager to act outside the code, which can keep a bit of her initial flaws while wrapping up her character arc by the time AVoS is completed.
Violetshine x Tree I can take or leave but Tree is so gnarly that I'd hate to see him go. (Just let him actually be mediator! I swear...) But giving her more agency gives the book a way to build this relationship up in a way that makes sense. And if we're going around tidying up character development, we can rescue what we loved so much about Rootspring.
... I don't have near enough time to do these full series rewrites people seem to love so much but I might steal some of it for scenes. ♥ Good video, and good seeing the both of you team up to dive into a character that had so much more promise. ... and if anyone read all that rambling, uh, have a cookie.
I never forgot about violetshine, I always wandered if they were going to bring her back to have a lot screen time as she has barely any in arc 7
0:11 not even done with the video and thats a MOOD, especially since I started with them
Violet paw is the twin adopted from foster care that goes to the crappy couple while twig paw got adopted by competent richer peeps. I always felt bad for her.
I literally just finished the vision of shadows yesterday
violetshine was one of my favorite characters..
Im currently on the last book of a vision of shadows!
Nice!
Ooh Akira you should make all your ‘talking’ type videos into podcasts!
im reading vos and completely forgot about this till i read this vid tittle
I love violetshine she is a great character I enjoy thunder and shadows a lot with her honestly when Rowanstar said that they don’t need her in the half of the book I was so mad at him for that I literally said and who’s fault is It mouse brain you of course
I was thinking to name my character violetshine and now starting and trying to get into Warrior Cats in finding a forgotten character named violetshine makes me not the only one that's a character that I created is named violetshine
Wait voiletshine? Never heard of her and I've been in the warriors community since 2018
I haven’t read this story arch since 8th grade, I only read the first three books, so I barely remember most of the characters, I only remember a few main cats
I'm right now on the second book in vision of shadows
Akira: I don’t like Violetshine too much
Also Akira: *ranks Violetshine as top 11 in best she-cats video*
Edit: but honestly, I love Violetshine, I can’t agree with this. I do respect your opinion though. I loved her story and she’s honestly my favourite AVOS cat other than Needletail
The fact that I actually forgot about her-
Sadly, this happens with a lot of cats, male and female. They have so many cats out there that they cannot spotlight all of them after they've had their "turn".
I do wish this happened less, but it is inevitable. I remember the original Molekit. Cinderheart, Honeyfern, and Poppyfrosts' brother. He died and was never talked about again, when you lose a kit you would most likely remember. Unfortunately thats not the case.
At the start of Veil of Shadows Thunderclan had around 35ish Warriors, not including Queens, Elders, kits, or Medicine cats. Now they have so many cats we barely get to know any of them, Sorrelstripe, Fernsong, and Hollytuft have barely had any spotlight and are now just back round characters. I know clans need those but sometimes there's too many. It would be impossible to have all the cats as protagonist, but it would be possible (because its already been done) to have at least one protagonist with the back round characters, that way we can also understand how other cats (excluding protagonist) feel. Understanding them will give us a general mood of the clan, understanding the mood of the clan will help us understand their steps forward and how that will affect all clans.
Sometimes in Warriors, after a series ends, the protagonist kinda fade into the back round, just like Violetshine. Although some of them do have a few small moments, generally forgotten or looked over by the reader but small moments none the less. Take Lionblaze for example, has had no other use since Omen of the stars besides conjuring up kits with Cinderheart. Like most father he is a bit distant with his kits, but in Spotfurs rebellion, him and Cinderheart comfort and lecture her after she does something dumb. Not all fathers are this way, there have been some good ones like Bramblestar. but it proves that Lionblaze despite being a waste of space at this point still has stuff to give, and they tried to give him more story after Bramblestar is lost by making him acting deputy to Squirrelflight, but once she is gone and he's acting acting leader, his personality changes, he even talks about killing Shadowsight, but Spotfur keeps him in check. I feel like the tried and failed to give him more story and a bit more depth, he is a strong warrior, and I think originally, they had very few plans to make him leader.
Here's a list of some cats I bet you forgot about:
Cherryfall: (Sister to Molewhisker, Daughter to Berrynose and Poppyfrost, mentor to Sparkpelt)
Molewhisker: (Brother to Cherryfall, Son to Berrynose and Poppyfrost, and Alderhearts' first mentor,) Him and his sister went on the journey to find Skyclan in "Apprentice quest".
Frostfur: (Mother to too many cats, including Brackenfur and Cinderheart.)
Deadfoot/Hopkit: (Brother to Sorrelkit and Pigeonkit, Son to Hickorynose and Meadowslip, Mate to Ashfoot, Father to Crowfeather, Tallstars old deputy and apprentice)
Hollykit and Finchkit: More of the "My kit died I can forget them now" part of Warriors: ( Littermates to Birchfall, Kits to Dustpelt and Ferncloud, They died in "Dawn")
Way to many more..
Violetshine was the most interesting in the 2nd and 3rd book
Question: do you think that if a spirit dies coughcoughspottedleafcoughcough goes somewhere? I imagine they are trapped in a pitch black square with one dead tree and a stump with a hole to lay in, and the boxes are lined up next to each other but they can’t hear others reply what you think
I completely forgot who violetshine was for a sec
1:06 i finished Vision of Shadows this Monday lol
Congrats! I finished Vision of Shadows last November :P
I did NOT forget about Violetshine. She is my favorite character.
tbh i don't even think i even realized the romance between her and tree existed, or if i did i didn't pay much attention to it.
Video: we all forgot about Violetshine!
Me: who?
uhh is the, “Thankfully Sunnyfall joined *my* for this video” in the description a typo? sjdbsjdb