Epictetus’ Art of Winning in All Circumstances (Stoicism)
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
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Losing, to many, is painful; it’s an experience of degradation, a diminishment of the ego. So, can’t we just put ourselves in circumstances where we always win? Or even better: is it possible to win in all circumstances? According to Epictetus, it is. If we adopt the right mindset and attitude, we always win, even when we lose. This video reflects and elaborates on Epictetus' philosophy and why, if you want to lose, you always win.
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00:00 - Intro
02:43 - The anxious musician
05:41 - Meeting Zeno of Citium
07:23 - How to always win
10:45 - Wishing for what we fear
expect nothing and you will never be disappointed
Well, this task of expecting nothing is as difficult a task as any. 😅
Except for your reality because that’s what you get… and feeling that nothing is definitely not worth living
How dare you
I would rather expect something and be disappointed.
Edit: I mean it depends on the situation ( example ). Sometimes it’s in fact good to do this, but sometimes to expect something good can give you extra energy which can be valuable in certain circumstances.
This is exactly what Bhagvad Gita teaches about karma. But to reach level of mental state, to be untouched by expectations, is in itself a practice that may take many births
“Like everyone else…you want to learn the way to Win, but never accept to Lose. To accept defeat…is to be Liberated from it”. Bruce Lee
Beautiful.
That s a good saying but Bruce Lee wasnt a very nice person to begin with. But obviously that has nothing to do with the saying. So just ignore this comment🤣
Just like death. Everyone wants to live a full life, but no one wants to die and that holds us down. When you accept death for what it is, you live a life without fear.
@@sandhita_agarwalyea just shut up
Yep. And then once you do, it makes you want to live again and win again. A cycle of strength and weakness.@@powerjolt7215
”-You have power over your mind, not outside events. Realize this and you will find strength. - Marcus Aurelius
Quite often, we find that our fear of a thing is worse than the thing itself.
Indeed
Today a report in the digital news panel in my town's bus stated that 85% of our worries are not even bound to take place in reality
Losing or failing should not be feared.Failing to attempt the challenge for the fear of loss or failure,is the ultimate
failure!
Or the loss is to great so that the attempt doesn't even seem valuable. The bad outwaying the good
I have failed over and over again and that’s why I succeeded-ANYONE YES YOU! 😊❤
That's Obama's line
Michael Jordan said it first!
@@dcj84 what about Wayne Gretzky?
@@dcj84 oh mybad. I just know and watched it from Obama speech in a university.
No, I just fail.
When I lived as a Buddhist monk this was such a common approach people had to their practice.
If they won they got to have some pleasant experience.
But if they lost they'd get an unpleasant experience.
The ironic thing is that as far as progression goes, both are wins, but the unpleasant meditation sittings are usually the ones that gets you the most progress :)
I knew a monk who told me he had some family members back-stab him and deny him the house he should of inherited. He was a bit annoyed to say the least.
The response from his teachers?
Congratulations you're free.
@kushbangaroo3127 there was a popular monk who said he wanted to tonguekiss a youngboy like 3 months ago. Highly inappropriate and wrong. The boy was from 3rd world.
@@lllSTRIK3Rlll There's actually quite a bit more to that story than what was shared in the news.
How could there be a win or loose situation in meditation?
@@joebenzz i agree completely :)
As Rocky said: "I don't care about winning, I just want to go the distance"
Beautiful.
STUPID MANTALITY
Good one bro 😀
This is one of the channels that gave me the courage to start my RUclips channel 9 months ago about self development. Now I have 1,480 subs and > 1,000 hours of watch time. I know it’s not comparable with others but I’m still proud I started because I’ve been learning so many lessons that I could haven’t learned without getting started in the 1st place.
Never expect Amazon to deliver your package on time.
Funny enough, I ordered 2 packages from Amazon recently. Both of them arrived a week before the slated ETA, but the last one was the wrong item.
@@markisaki979 I've had more early deliveries than late.
Girls-night-out happened to be bowling, in which I have no experience. I chose to go in with the attitude of, I'm going to OWN last place! I was freed up to just have fun. There were so many opportunities for humor. I think I did come in last but we all had so much fun that night. SO much laughter! We had a much more memorable night than if we'd been seriously competing with each other. That would have been the real loss.
What a brilliant attitude 👌.
The harder you roll the ball the more pins you are likely to knock down. 👍
I actively combine Stoicism, Taoism and Confucianism with Islamic principles and it's truly marvellous. I feel like I'm reaching a point of total peace, love of humanity and truly becoming the best version of myself in every way ♥
Stoicism and Islam are very close both teaches moderation.
Victorious.
As a former competitive swimmer, I had many chances to set myself up for disappointment, luckily, my coach had a different approach to winning, time and adversaries. He used to say none of us were against any of that, but only our mind and body. It was about doing your very best considering your own state that day.
Fantastic analogy, insightful wisdom to help maintain perspective in the moment, thank you for sharing.
@@robertconnier9457does he/she mean we compete with ourselves?
Losers got nothing to lose, give it all you got. Start now brother.
And winners have nothing to gain but to lose it all in death.
Losers unite 💪🏾
@@Sicpuede yes brother loser gang for life
No, I will do what I want.
As a former touring musician, this fear of not getting applause is so real. My best performances were when I didn't care or got into a fight with a band member. Crazy how not caring about external factors actually brings success
I used to be such a sore loser in competition that I became a spoil-sport, therefore, no one wanted to play with me, and so I never had any fun (nor did others in my presence). Once I began to embrace this stoic philosophy fully, I not only became able to lose with grace, I also became able to truly celebrate my opponents victories with them, now, fun is the game of the day, every day ;)
7:34 Competition
8:24 what if we want to loose
8:57 were not competing inwardly
9:51 what to focus on regardless of the outcome
10:23 wishing for what we fear
10:45 Question
11:41 Paradoxical Intention - ease your fear by desiring/wanting what you fear
Life is a perfect balance between winning and losing. Perfect equilibrium in the end
No, its really hot. Losing tends to be most peoples primary outcome.
@@illbeyourmonster3591 Spoken like a loser.
I agree, most people play an active role in their own demise.
And winning is pointless as when you die you lose everything
no it's like 99% losing 1% winning
I am incurring a big loss in trading. This video gives some sort of solace in time of hardship.
You will bounce back rahul
There are no ups without downs
Yin and Yang
☯
Playing a devil's game with the devils, ..don't expect to win.
Inspirational video! Epictetus' insights on winning in any situation are truly transformative. Thank you for sharing this Stoic wisdom!
Essentially take part and enjoy yourself no matter the outcome - enjoy the race and congratulate the winner.
When you don’t have any expectations, then the smallest things are enough to make you happy. A beautiful ray of sun, a kind stranger, an encounter with a dog.
When I got my first job I was struggling with imposter syndrom so bad that when I each shift ended I felt a relief, not a sense of accomplishment. I was always anticipating the worst. So when my clients would post 5* reviews mentioning my name, it was so surprising it always made me feel grateful. And this feeling of gratitude was rewarded by my boas raising the salary. Everyday I was going to work ready to lose, but in fact I was winning😮
I remember a few years ago watching a short news item about an island in the Pacific that held a carnival every year. One event was similar to a 100m sprint, but the objective was not to win.The objective was to run the race as "beautifully" as possible.....
Then there was a winner? The one who raced the most beautifully?
As someone who has lost at life generally, this makes me feel better.
Good to keep in mind for the second round of my job interview tomorrow😆
They have like 5 rounds, bruh. lol
@@BlackJesus8463 no mate, 5 rounds in the Netherlands is not common at all. This second round will be the last one. The third one is for the contract, policies etc. 😊
Good luck!
In language learning, and in chess, I've learned the most from mistakes. You have to push through those to learn, so I need to hear this segment to be philosophical and constructive about the experiences which will and must include failure. Thanks.
0:00: 🎯 Epictetus teaches that we should not base our happiness on external factors we cannot control, like winning or losing in competitions.
2:56: 🎶 Desiring something outside of our control leads to disappointment and anxiety.
5:51: 💪 Embracing defeat and focusing on what is within our control leads to invincibility.
8:41: 🏆 The embrace of losing and failure can lead to inner victory and growth.
11:58: 🔄 Embracing failure can transform it into something positive and alleviate anxiety.
Recap by Tammy AI
Did you mean Al or AI?
@@aguyontheinternet8436I also want to know
Thank you for the time stamps. 👌
This was an eye opener . I always thought it's completely my fault or lack of skill when I do not win. Now I understand it's a combination of skill,practice,luck and other factors. Now I know why participation is more important than winning or losing.
and Success is not in winning a competition. Thank you so much🙏
"I never lose. I either win or I learn." - Nelson Mandela
Lose now win later, win now lose later. It’s all the same in the end, if you were to see the big picture
Facts pointless cycle
@@RandomPerson28337 it's not pointless. It only feels pointless when you are losing. But it certainly doesnt feel pointless when you're winning.
@@invan99999 so why does rich people and celebs still kill themselves? I saw an interview of a guy who was a multi millionaire with women and power and he still said it was empty. I trust his words and it isnt just him. The only people i see happy are the ones who dont care about winning or losing. Winning at life in terms of getting ahead or getting money is pointless. And when you die everything you do will be a joke. You think anyone cares about what you did when you die? And dont say it for "me" cuz when you die everything goes to black and every thought or desire becomes nothing. Aint no after life aint ntn waiting for you.
don‘t expect something from situations or people. expectations are doomed to fail
It is what is is. Go with the flow. Just do what you can and let the end be the judge. Just be present. Don't indulge so much about the past and the future. - My daily mantra
Love it ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Sum of Epictetus
Machine learning paradigms dominate Silicon Valley. For startups, the saying is "Fail early. Fail often." It's to get one's sea legs. The goal is to learn the ropes, know all the issues around one. It's learning to "navigate the error surface". This builds breath, resiliency, to deal with a larger set of contingencies. Going directly to success is not necessarily a blessing.
Of course, just like a stock trading portfolio, one has to take into account the risks, how much drawdown one can take, probability of success ... It's a very calculated approach, in building a runway, whereby one can move forward, in a systematic way, esp. for things at the cutting edge.
I was thinking of Rocky this entire video. We spend the entire movie seeing him prepare for the fight. All that training, and he loses. But we still get the victory music because winning wasn't the point. He just wanted to fight the champion. You still feel like he accomplished something great even thought he lost the fight.
Love me or hate me, either way I've got you. Please do not be indifferent, then I have no control. - Irish Proverb
Karm kro, fal ki chinta mt kro. - Shri Krishna, in Shreemad Bhagvat gita. What it means - One should not think or worry about winning, but only focus on giving your absolute best on the process to win. The result will automatically come, but even if you've lost dont worry. Because you’ve given your best and that is enough.
I always compete with myself by trying to improve on my accomplishments.
i always think of that farmer whose son´s leg got broken by a horse. few days later the recruiters couldnt take the son to a war where a lot of people died
The good old taoist tale, i love that one
Indeed you do not know what would have happened if you chose differently, ever. Make the best decision you can off what you know, it doesn't get any better than that. Then hope for the best.
Clearing the path for what's ahead...the best revenge is to be unlike him, who performed the injustices. Be your best self not for spite but because I deserve the better life that I have EARNED.
'winning' & 'losing' is all perspective.
Find the silver lining in every experience to prepare yourself for the end stage boss. Each new level brings new devils, be aware to beware.
Wow I just had my first performance Tuesday and did not get the crowd reaction I was expecting. This came right on time for me.
as I stopped pursuing my romantic interest, it worked wonders for my anxiety and solved my addiction problems.
I knew there would be no chance to be involved with romance again for it is costumed in the pursuit of this game that the male is the one who would make the first move in this love game.
it was still the right thing to do I think,
for my diagnosis was borderline personality syndrome. love was killing me. in multimodal emotional ways. this was 20 years ago.
You need better people in your life, even if they are other youz.
And have you found love ever since you stopped chasing?
@@Winnee9 short answer, no!
After reading Cicero I found something interesting. It doesn’t matter if we win or lose but what matters is our intention. This suggests something other than expecting to lose but rather that actions performed in virtue are worthwhile no matter the outcome.
I was in a Go Skate Day competition. Joined, and while I'm waiting for it to start. I told myself I'm just there to have fun, enjoy the event. Because few years back i always don't get to win a single trophy, But that day it was different. I didn't want to win but in my surprise i actually won.
The opinions of others is something important to reflect on, but our goal should be to achieve goals set by ourselves and quietly take pride in our progress
I have tried this and as awesome as it is, it hurts never getting the win. I instead chose to control the game such that I can only win or I'm not playing. I would rather scope down my attempt to get a winning result. I get enough problem solving in my work, I don't need uncertainty in the rest of me life.
I started controlling what I do in life and have found so much contentment where I before felt anxiety and mentally fatigued. I know that I wont be the best football-player so why even bother when I could work on something that I'm good at that I know brings me joy. Life is short, do what you want to do.
Mr. Adversity, Ms. Offended and Mr. Trigger have all been integral in my growth and some of my greatest teachers.
What about Ms anxiety
Epictetus's message in this video resonates with the message in the Indian religious scripture Bhagwat Geeta.According to Bhagwat Geeta ' Action is in our hand but the results are not. Results depend on myriad factors outside our control. If we truly understand this fact, we will work hard but wouldn't be affected by the results not as per our wish.We will start again.
if you have nothing to lose, you always win :)
Mind altering content here folks. Thanks again for another great video
“God, spare me from the desire for love, approval, and appreciation. Amen.” ~Byron Katie. I don't focus on the "God" part or that it's in the form of a type of prayer, but on the desire part. This shifted my thinking when I came across it the other day. Just the way it's phrased really made me get it this time. I didn't realize I was still thinking others needed to prove these things for me in order for me to be OK, acceptable as a human being. It changed my whole thinking.
I am here Einzelganger I am sorry I haven't been around. I'm thankful to hear your voice and observe your work again. I am about to start complete your Stoic and Taoist Playlist. Im so happy to see your success ☯️🪐
Beautiful as always ❤
"Freedom is having events go in accordance with our will, never contrary to it. It is something good and valuable; to arbitrarily wish for things to happen that arbitrarily seem to you best is not good, it’s disgraceful." - Epictetus
Thanks for this great video about the philosophy of Epictetus!:)
Zero attachments to any outcomes. ... Not stressing about it ever 😅
A truly fascinating video about the philosophy of Epictetus. His perspective on how by embracing loss and focusing on what's within our control, we can actually gain, is inspiring. This reverse mindset - that by seeking to lose, one actually wins - really prompts some thought. Thank you for sharing these insights!
This is one of those fascinating "Conundrums" that point out a linear mind-set, that my generation was brought up, buying 'into. Men, in particular, can be afflicted with this "do or die" mentality. Letting go, not getting wrapped up into win/lose, can be liberating. Outcome based mentality has a certain place, but can ruin our emotional health, if who we are, is determined by a favorable/unfavorable outcome. Thanks for the video, and the book. 😇 It does help, if practiced daily.
All suffering is self inflicted
It hurts and you know it.
u r right. thank you.. since losing doesnt cause us harm, there is nothing wrong with wishing for it. it only subdues the fear completely. thank you
A couple of months ago I tried to win a scholarship. My approach was very stoic. People were saying "you'll win it". And I'd said "we don't know, maybe I won't, either way I will try my best and learn from it". And they'd said I was pessimistic. I was just being stoic.
I didn't win it. But that stoic approach helped me a lot.
Another great video! I have adopted a losing attitude with a right-wing opinionated roommate who tries to engage me in a conversation where he must be the winner at all costs. I ceased to respond to his invitation to engage in conversations, by being silent (no response to texts) and by avoiding interacting with him. In this way, I have peace of mind by not engaging in inane arguments. I win.
You can't do anything liberal without others but you have no right to others. You lose.
By adopting the policy of not engaging in a discussion with someone with a strong opposing opinion I have SAVED SO MUCH ENERGY.
This LET THEM BE attitude is so calming. At 77 I am now relaxed and refuse to be triggered. 😊
He might feel strongly about why he's right wing, it may not be he wants to win, but share his thoughts. Is he older than you? Has he lived more experienced more? If so, it may be you who are lacking not him. Being right wing is not a crime, being sanctimonious about your views is. Do you feel you are right and therefore should not waste your time in discussion with him?
@@hunterluxton5976
He is 37. I'm 62. I hold a doctoral degree in cultural anthropology, with a lot of reading on my belt. And I am a retired college instructor.
He holds a BA in Poli sci.
He is a salesman in a work supply store.
He also has guns and loves video games that shoot at things.
And he listens to Jordan Peterson.
No, it isn't a crime to be right-wing, only that he tries to ram his political ideology down my throat.
I am live and let live. I do not shove my beliefs on someone's face and wish the same.
Yeah, it is not possible to have a decent conversation with a being such as that. His position is to have his opinions be true theories and that I buy them wholesale. He wants to win at all costs, and if you haven't done so, try having a grown-up conversation and exchanging ideas with a right-wing ignoramus. Good luck with that.
@@joannaedwards6325
You got it! It isn't worth a smidgen of my breath to engage with people who have made up their minds based on hearsay information.
And the comment above proves my/our point.
"One of the most beautiful qualities of true friendship is to understand and to be understood." - Seneca
When you want to win, the first sign of losing causes tilt which compounds upon itself until you lose, easy
No desire, no attachment, freedom and harmony are yours.
I want to win. However, if I don’t, I learn from my loss, make adjustments, and strive to improve. Nothing wrong with excellence.
This helps a lot because i have crippling fear of failure but after this i will welcome failure and thus making me more likely to win
I'm currently struggling with something. Thank you for your video as it provided me with some clarity.
I don't see it as wanting to lose, but rather welcoming events as they happen, they're two different things in my opinion. I think the key to always winning is to change your views of winning and losing to something that is entirely in your Control, for example: for me winning isn't being in first place on a competition full of people, but rather participating and giving it my best; and losing isn't being in last place, but rather, not taking part on a competition i really wanted to be in, and it depended entirely to me.
I don't see it as wanting to lose, i see it as fully embracing events as they happen, even if it means being in last place, but that doesn't mean I have to enter something wanting to lose.
My view, really enjoy your videos, been watching for Over 2 years now, it really helped my personal growth. Keep up the good work
Terima kasih banyak. Anda telah mengizinkan video anda bisa di terjemahkan ke bahasa Indonesia, from Indonesian love you so much❤
I've been living by these principles for years before I came across this as a proper philosophy which has existed for a long time. I'd like to add that in case of a paradoxical intention you don't have to want to fail, that will be counterproductive. You just have to be okay with failure.
Thank you, your video is what i needed in these trying times of my life
It never ceases to amaze me how similar Stoicism and Taoist philosophy is.
Tadej Pogacar is probably our times best example of a stoic athlete. He never blames outside factors when things dont go his way no matter how unfair things seem. He's truly an example for young generations to follow. and look up to. I dont think he even knows about stoicism. Seems like it's just part of his natural way of being.
This video is God sent, I was literally thinking about a tournament I have soon and stumbled upon it🤝🏿 much appreciated
The fact that this is so practical is fascinating... Great job!
Positive and mind blowing content : as expected. I appreciate you and your work, as much as it is possible to do so. 👏😊
I just ordered your new book
Congratulations 🍾!
I enjoyed your first one.
So glad you’re here still making videos
Thank you.
Thank you, you have no idea how much this video has helped me. Thanks.
Mind altering content here folks. Thanks again for another great video. Beautifully written and presented my friend. 10/10.
Honestly I’m so used to winning I’m not too stressed about it. But then again I have to remind myself of the tortoise and the hare story lol. Never underestimate the competition. But I do believe in myself and it keeps me calm and focused.
Beautifully written and presented my friend. 10/10
truth is something which is constant.. it is upto the people to believe or not... whatever they do truth is the truth
thank you a lot for this video. Its amazing
Great video. Thank you so much. I needed it.
Doesn't matter if you win or lose, the most important thing is you fought.
Challange your self to do something, not to get something. You can have a desire, but toward something that you can control, such as your action, not to outside element that you cant control
Another magnum opus. You explain these often mind twisting philosophical approaches to life's challenges with ease of understanding. When re-organising what you have said within mybown mind to augment my own understanding, it becomes relatively clear. Clarity in philosophical thought is often difficult to achieve quickly. Your videos are a shortcut with loosing depth or trivialising concepts. Bravo.❤
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Insightful video! Congrats to you, your work is always valuable and precious. Keep being yourself🧘🏻
One of your best videos so far, the message, the script, the music 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻 I needed this. The final lines struck a chord in my heart, since I am guilty of pressuring myself to perform perfectly in every aspect of my life, and specially in Music. Regards from a Mexican 🇲🇽 living in Sydney 🇦🇺
Thanks man this video changed my way of life and thinking 😊😊😊😊😊
I did not want to watch this video, so I watched it and enjoyed it
An experience is an experience. It does not matter if it is a favorable or unfavorable one.
Love your work.
Deeply insightful.. Bravo. I listened to several parts two or three times to get the geist.
Thank you for this video.
thanks for teaching
I think this relates to the growth mindset - to love the process and not get too worried aboutt the outcome ❤
Interesting idea, very helpful and on time. Thanks
One of the best videos you’ll made. I love it