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Einstein, Tagore & music: Nitin Sawhney & Nicki Wells at TEDxSalford
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- Опубликовано: 15 апр 2014
- One of the most distinctive, versatile and important musical and cultural voices in the UK, this world-class producer, songwriter, DJ, multi-instrumentalist, orchestral composer and cultural pioneer's output as a musician is astonishing. He has scored for and performed with many of the world's leading orchestras, and collaborated with and written for the likes of Paul McCartney, Sting, The London Symphony Orchestra, AR Rahman, Brian Eno, Sinead O'Conner, Anoushka Shankar, Jeff Beck, Shakira, Will Young, Taio Cruz, Get Cape Wear Cape Fly, Ellie Goulding, Cirque Du Soleil, Akram Khan, Mira Nair, Nelson Mandela and John Hurt.
Singer-songwriter-composer-producer Nicki Wells, having recently gained a first class honours degree in music, has been working on her solo debut album as well as multiple collaborations with various artists and producers including the acclaimed Nitin Sawhney. She has already been featured on his work from album recordings to performances in venues such as the Royal Albert Hall, The Royal Opera House and Sadlers Wells and is featured on the recent BBC hit series the 'Human Planet'.
CREDITS:
Curators: Mishal Saeed & Uzair F. Butt
Technical Lead: Mark Earnshaw
Camerawork: Nathan Rae & Team - nathanrae.co.uk/
Post production: Elliott Wragg - www.EchoParkMedia.co.uk
Audio restoration: Jorge Polvorinos - jorgepolvorinos.wordpress.com
“I have spent many days stringing and unstringing my instrument
while the song I came to sing remains unsung.”
― Rabindranath Tagore
Nicki Wells has such a beautiful voice, she will leave you in tears.
It is said, there is no single emotion that the human mind is capable of, which is not expressed in the writings of the Kabiguru..... He was like a Sun shining on the earth.....
Those of who disliked the contents of the presentation are below hydrogen.
Vai unko samaz nahi aarha hai kya bol rahe hai😅😅😂😅😂
মেটাল রিয়্যাক্টিভিটি সিরিজ এর কথা বলছেন ? 😂🤣
They are the fan of honey singh😊😊😊
Nicki Wells has such ease in switching between forms, gifted!
She is formidable.
NIcki Wells you have done true justice to this raaga... and definitely appreciation goes to the nice content....
Wow. What a wonderful informative talk. Thank you Mr. Sawhney, and my dear childhood friend Nicki Wells. So proud & constantly impressed by both of you. Thanks for continuing to share your wonderful craft & infinite knowledge. Much love & best regards always. xxRosie
Interesting that there was a Celtic influence.
I am Welsh and lovevWelsh poetry and traditional music
I love the devotional songs and ghazals of India and Pakistan.
They touch one’s soul.
Beautiful renditions by the Wells sisters.
Amazing.
Proud to our national poet Rabindranath tagore / robi. Thakur. He was legend of india 🙏🙏. Onek onek namoshkar gurudeb apna k . Proud bharatiya ❤
stop saying national poet
he hated Nationalism 😡
first read his book nationalism
@@expert-comment it's okay , idea may be different he himself believed in differences life is different thinking is different and that's how we all are different and see even he didn't believe in nationalism people of India remember him as national poet 😊
@@gamersgient5486
friend ....
he was A Humanist !!
he was way ahead of his time as well as our time : he believed in Internationalism !!
which is quite similar to Vasudeva Kutumbakam !
@@expert-comment yes every maharshis are ahead of time but I know he was not very fond of nationalism but humanism though he knew differences if he hated nationalists then why he respected Netaji subhas chandra Bose?? Netaji himself was a nationalist, nationalism is not a curse word it's a great idea by what people fought for their freedom, it depends on time when you are on the side of nationalism and when you should be on the side of humanism.
Some people do bad and we don't consider them as human that's when to protect humanism we have to be nationalist to protect the society from these bad people.
And he knew this , it's just his ideology that humanism is bigger than nationalism but he didn't hate it he knew what the broader picture
@@gamersgient5486
bro ....
There are no Nations on this planet!!
There are some conditions for becoming a Nation :
1. Common Language
2. Common Descent
3. Common opinion
India is least likely to be a Nation !!
It uses two extremely famous icons, a Jewish European physicist, Albert Einstein and Bengali artistic behemoth, synestheticist Rabindranath Tagore. Tagore is shared with Ravi Shankar as musical comparison to Einstein’s capacity on the violin, who needed the mnemonic use of musical scores and who loved German Baroque music as opposed to German Romantic music, both of which Einstein only knew through printed scores seldom anything like the original manuscripts. The centenary structures of the Ragas (many, complex, numericized and memorized by long trained and disciplined Sitar and percussionist musicians) is put in contrast to physics as was practiced before Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle and other probabilistic accounts of sub-nuclear particles that were resisted by Einstein. His causal approach to phenomena had been his method of great success in explaining the ordinary and cosmological scale of reality, in terms of geometry.
The comparisons in the TED are facile and greatly misleading. The musical score is not used by many serious musicians West of the Urals. Many of J.S. Bach’s scores are typically ‘guidelines’ in his own words, and instructions to ‘improvise’ for dozens of ‘bars’ are often in the original manuscripts. This is not unusual. Mozart jammed entire nights in the pubs and tea houses of Vienna with other musicians without scores at all, as had been the custom, and still is, among first class composers. No very accomplished musician of past time, or ours, NEEDS a score, which was also the only way of owning copy-right royalties for composers, until recording devices. Serious musical traditions from the Roma music of Romania, Hungary and Serbia; Neapolitan melodies; Scottish Border; Flamenco, Quadrillas and Tonadillas in Spain (just to begin) don’t fit the major cities’ Symphony orchestra M.O. at all, without speaking of Jazz even when a large big band will have a score to keep many components together (Jazz is mentioned feebly as the only exception to a cartoonish characterization of ‘Western’ or ‘white’ musical determinism). As far as Indian music, I would be willing to bet the shallowness of this account extends to it, too. Only after his own death would Shankar allow such a thing. One of his English students, after many years of efforts admitted the discipline of Raga is just too rich, measured and complicated to memorize without training from childhood. This was George Harrison, a rock guitarist by profession.
I'd venture to say that his understanding of ragas was not too off-kilter. However, it is true that Indian classical musicians are held to an extremely high standard and many spend their entire lives mastering one raga, seldom succeeding.
Unlike most Indian instruments like the piano, notes in Indian instruments are continuous, melding into one another, hence making it comparatively difficult to hit a particular note. Of course, one exception to this would be the violin which, to my knowledge, does not have frets like the guitar. Of Western classical music though, I admit, I know very little.
Starting with 2 of the greatest geniuses of all time in my new you tube account.They meet twice but the argument on truth & beauty literally thrived themselves & the quest to know about these two things perturbed their fixed thoughts.Einstein on one hand told Tagore that "this is something which I can't prove to you,but it works on Pythagoras rule."There are quite a few such abstract arguments between science and philosophy.
Nitin Sawhney.....Beautiful expressions...........and Nicki Wells, God bless you and lot of love from India................God bless you with you...
Nicki Wells....one of the most wonderfoul female voices i ever heard :O
I came across Nicki Wells just last night. She was a guest performer at an Eric Whitacre concert. She sang a Sanskrit hymn to Lord Krishna with the Eric Whitacre Singers providing vocal accompaniment, an incredible beautiful experience.
An article in The Guardian today by Nitin Sawney led me to Tagore and then to this inspiring presentation. A wonderous rabbit hole of delights and discoveries on so many levels. Thank you.🙏☀️🌻🇬🇧🙏 22.12.21.
Where the mind is without #fear and the head is held high
Where #knowledge is #free
Where the #world has not been broken up into fragments
By narrow domestic walls
Where #words come out from the depth of #truth
Where tireless striving stretches its arms towards #perfection
Where the clear stream of #reason has not lost its way
Into the dreary desert sand of dead #habit
Where the #mind is led forward by thee
Into ever-widening thought and #action
Into that heaven of #freedom, My Father, let my #country awake
#notimeforcaution #badwolf #redpill #datadarwinism
Sefra Correa u
Sefra Correa চিত্ত যেথা ভয়শূন্য উচ্চ যেথা শির
জ্ঞান যেথা মুক্ত হেথা গৃহের প্রাচীর
অাপন প্রাঙ্গনতলে দিবসশর্বরী
বসুধারে রাখেনাই খন্ড
রুদ্ধ করি
One of my favourite poem.
Very nice verses
"Chance has its play"
and
"Play stimulates chance"
are not opposites .
One is not the "other way around" of the other Nitin !!
a great fellow Bengali
সুরের আলো ভুবন ফেলে ছেয়ে,
সুরের হাওয়া চলে গগন বেয়ে,
পাষাণ টুটে ব্যাকুল বেগে ধেয়ে
বহিয়া যায় সুরের সুরধুনি. ..
Excellent and very much inspiring
When I attained supreme self realization, I stopped being "an artist". I realized that all the time I was being creative, that I had in essence created nothing. Rather, I only discovered and placed emphasis upon particular aspects of consciousness--the likes of which were already there.
A lot of 'I' for a realized self.
Beautiful voice. Interesting talk .
Incredible !! Loved every bit of it ...
wonderful & exceptional!
A great theme and a beautiful voice of Nicki Wells made me feel high for sometime. I would like to share these 2 links below. Thank you.
Music becomes appealing due to quantum effects of entanglement, vibrations and believe it or not 'tunneling'. Effect of music is likewise quantum in nature and can induce passion, love etc.
Just in case artists haven't understood yet. Music and other forms of art ( Entertainment) is being used by the One to send messages. :) artists are a medium as said Ravi Shankar. And the message is perfection does not exist, still do your best. :) take it easy, life is a ride, enjoy it. :) never too much, never too little, right in the middle is the line and your conscience shall help you find that line. :) To those Artists who don't know the meaning of entertainment, just type the word on Wikipedia and enlighten yourselves, big love. :) Jasveer A Bhagwan.
His research is accurate......great job.....!!
If you wonder what is the relationship between philosophy, science and art (music), Nitin Sawhney and Nicky Wells show says it all!
Excellent
Awesome
Great
Very nice pictures.
Best of TED according to me, Not because I am an Indian or because I am a Bengali but of the presentation of Mr. Sawhney and Miss Nicky what a voice you have miss.
I dont understand why the bengalis of todays generation dont take tagore(khub janak karon ami ai generationer)
From the surface it may seem that today's generation does not accept Tagore. Tagore is in himself an institution, and there are not many people living who have been able to completely know Tagore. And above that how can you expect today's generation to learn Tagore music, poetry, get insight into his writings views and opinions (which is, I believe, the finest in their fields since several millennia) when they are not taught about him?Actually, tell me when can you teach and pass on something to your next generation?When you completely believe in it , when you're convinced. The problem lies there. It is that intrinsic feeling of doubt, insecurity, and inferiority complex that Bengalis feel in their past culture, literature and in whatever they do with respect to western culture that makes them undermine their culture and Tagore.
Here in Bangladesh he's immensely respected throughout the country, actually. Anyone who knows anything about music here, or is wanting to get into singing, HAS to learn to sing at least 3-4 robindro shongeet.
No bro, I don't agree with you. In Bangladesh, we learn a lot of poems of bishwakobi robindronath thakur from our childhood. I'm a student of class 12, and still were study his poems and writings as well. You can't imagine how famous and respected he is in Bangladesh, as it was his father-in-law's home
@@alif_23 no i am not saying about our system i am saying about the individuals of our generation.
If you play a rabindrasangeet then my class mates laugh at me
❤❤❤❤🙏
I'm here for Nicki
But she's not here for you.
Where the #mind is without #fear and the head is held high;
Where knowledge is #free;
Where the world has not been broken up into fragments
By narrow domestic walls
Where words come out from the depth of #truth;
Where tireless striving stretches its arms towards perfection;
Where the clear stream of #reason has not lost its way
Into the dreary desert sand of dead habit;
Where the mind is led forward by thee
Into ever-widening #thought and action;
Into that heaven of #freedom, My Father, let my #country awake.
...............................
#notimeforcaution #badwolf #redpill #datadarwinism
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Sefra Correa cool i like tagore .. raag bhairavi is awesome
!!!♪•_⋰:::!!!Nitin increible músico & Nicki increible voz!! ♪•_⋰::: ♪•_⋰:::!!!!! ♪•_⋰::: __
Dear Albert; Reproducible results are helpful in life but life will always be about unique results. The aspect of all things that can be measured is the least interesting part of them. Since all things are connected all definitions are incomplete. "god" cannot be defined or measured. Tagore had feelings and so did Einstein, Tagore was comfortable with his, Einstein not so much with his. I love you Tagore because you know what love is. I love you Einstein though you may not know what love is.......
do you know what love is?
Proud for Tagore and..to be an Indian
Chi
The amount of comments is astonishing. People are defending cultural rights rather than enjoying the music. Well, I like it and I find that is a progressive break through. Most of the Indians and Pakistanis that I know would wish they could sing like her.
13:53 Where exactly did Einstein say "Music, like the universe, is a puzzle to be solved" ? I am unable to find that quote... Solving "a puzzle" (attributed to Einstein) is surely different from (music is like) "a painting to be expressed" (attributed to Tagore)
The IQ of that conversation is over 9000! 😂
I see several people (here) know Nicki Wells. I keep seeing another Wells, Tanya, doing the same thing. Are they related, or even the same person with a change in name?
they are twins! equally talented in their own splendorous ways!
you can find Tanya's music under Seven Eyes
hmmm
Nicky Wells or Tanya Wells?
Unfortunately I didn't take from this the insights I was expecting. Why was there no analysis of the musical examples?
I'm also not very deeply impressed with the presentation which should have been much better & deeper as I've expected a lot more from such a great theme.
thanks..but dear you need to correct the wards..It is a symble of a great nation..once again thanks..
Nicki Wells, be mine.
Nicki, you are such a BABE xxx
I'm not sure that's an appropriate thing to say.
This Lenovo na 🤦🏻♀️ dhet tereki
Btw thanks for the KNOWLEDGE!
Tagore was a nondualist and spoke nonduality and Einstein was talking in terms of individual consciousness. And so called scientist like Einstein cannot know the nondual state because most scientists work objectively but the truth is subjective.
.... But his student Heisenberg and great scientist Max Planck knew the truth. Max Planck says the outstanding statement of nonduality that consciousness is fundamental. What a wonderful statement...
Einstein was a materialistic and talked out of the head But the truth is realised by Grace only.
Happy thoughts...
Mr. Nitin Sawhney forgets to mention Bangladesh even one time! Rabindranath Tagore is revered and observed in life in Calcutta but may be same if not more in Bangladesh. Rabindranath spent some of his most fruitful years in Bangladesh and has written celebrated short stories, poems and songs while living there.
I'm asking at that bangladesh like country was there? Huh ..
At that time there was only bengal ( India)exist. No bangladesh was there dude..
Clément GQ
isnt she Tanya wells?
Tanyas identical twin infact.
the talk was interesting,the first bit made me think of Adam and Eve ,eating from the tree of knowledge ,and we know what the net result of that is :))
16:16 I think he's a bit wrong here. The great personality, Tagore boycotted "knighthood" by Britain in order to protest the Brit government. So he certainly was extremely nationalist ...
Ha , thakur is a nationalist , But he love the nationalism that is for the love of mother land But not that kind of nationalism that creates two world war
@@user-oq9zi6ms4n yep, as expected from a great philosopher 😍
Reading directly from the screen... No interaction with the audience at all
He's a musician not a public speaker. Btw...where's your TED presentation?
Can't wait to hear your answer Mr Hafiz...
Russco Beetlejuice...!!! Truly disturbing image :)
saidas108 No reason to become hostile just because someone voices a critical opinion. You don't need to have given a TED talk in order to have an opinion about the way someone presented.
I don't actually think that he is reading directly from the screen. He looks up every now and then and connects with people. Also his way of speaking sounds pretty natural with some emms and umms in between. But I do perceive him as an introvert. He is usually in the background, composing the music and accompanying his vocalists.
It's Rabindranath Thakur..Those Brits can't spell thakur so they butchered the title and started calling it Tagore..
I am not sure if Nikky Wells is quite the right choice to sing the Indian ragas.The accent and modulation is foreign and the scale, depth and much needed breath seem to be short.The talk is interesting and a new take.Very personal and deeply felt.
+sunil banerjee You would never hear a European question an Asian person's abilities at singing in English these days...your comment is possibly correct culturally but Nikki Wells has opened up my mind musically and made new types of music accessible to me
+Oliver Marks I would argue it is not culturally correct to make such a claim. It isn't as if Western trained singers have thousands of years of practice singing in various Indian tongues.
+Gurupurkha Khalsa You missed my point: I did say it is possibly 'culturally correct' that Nikky Wells is not the purest choice to sing the Indian ragas, which was Sunil Banerjee's original comment I responded to. However she brings a western flavour to a western audience in Salford and that opens people's minds to new cultural experiences...
@@omarks Well that may be true that is why she recived the applause as she performed something that is not native
Yes unfortunately still the problem with science.
The East....Great Britain in dominance by divide and rule sort wealth.
The wealth was in Architectural design, many cultures with religious beliefs living together in acceptance of different.
( not for Woman as in Britain no freedoms )
China, Himalayas, India , Korea, Thailand, Bali, and onwards
Emperialist dominions Britannica blinded by their false authority and disbelief.
Great