@@EastonmadeWoodSplitters, with the log splitter theme park, boss man Andrew can sit back, relax, and watch the miney roll in while everyone does the work for him. LOL!
I really feel that in the firewood business there is a need for both machines. Even in a perfect case scenario that you get the best quality logs deliver to you your still going to have a need to push wood through a multi way wedge either for production increases or the logs being better off split through a box or multi way wedge.
Amazing machines regardless of vertical or horizontal. I ordered the 22-28 because I am not comfortable with my hands being so close to the vertical wedge. That is just my personal fear of the proximity of that vertical wedge to my body parts.
After watching another video on which side to run from, I was intrigued by the hookaroon. Picked one up and used it for the first time yesterday. Wow! Why didn't I get one sooner! Thanks for the unintentional tip!
Hi Andrew. I'm probably old school but I like the speed, power, and versatility of your horizontal splitters - especially with a conveyor. That said, I can certainly appreciate the precision and portability of your vertical splitters. I presently split stove and firepit wood for myself and my family. I may explore bundle wood and/or selling cordwood in the next year. Any fines I use as kindling or burn in the backyard firepit in the summer. Ugly pieces go to the firepit too. Thanks for the video. It certainly gives good information for decision making.
@@EastonmadeWoodSplitters Totally agree with Steven. Appreciate you going back and forth like that in the video, gives a guy a lot to think on and compare. They both have their place and we get to see that well, next best thing to being there doing it ourselves.
After seeing my mate struggle with his horizontal splitter, I'm sold on the vertical. However, that was before I saw the Eastonmade horizontals and how quick and versatile they actually are. I'm in the throws of making my own vertical splitter but have no regrets, coz I only cut for myself, and therefore the accuracy's an asset over speed.
Good evening. I think it's just like you said, application of your operation. Along with the wallet/checking account as well. Also like another viewer said your back and knee's could be a factor. Its a win,win either way. Be safe everybody
I put an order an for a 12 22 and if you offer it as a package with a 24ft conveyor I would definitely get the package instead of trying to look for a used conveyor on Facebook market. I’m not supposed to get my machine until July so I hope I can get in on this package deal. Another thing to the folks dealing with the big rounds, this machine has a box wedge with a pull back bar so this machine is will eat right through the larger pieces without having to touch it again. I have been watching Andrew for years now and before power split. I can tell you that Andrew is a second generation machine maker for processing wood and him and his crew are very passionate about what they do.I even think I may have been the reason why he created the axis because about a year ago I talk to him about creating a powersplit eastonmade style because powersplit numbers didn’t add up to the power the said there machines were producing. Anyways I really can’t wait to receive my machine in July please if you see this I would really like to get a machine sooner. I have 300 cords of wood I need to get done before it gets hot and I would like to get started on it now but with a conveyor package deal. I have already paid so please get my order done ASAP. Thanks
The horizontal with an attached conveyer like the vertical one would be great. Especially with the 5-11 model. I would imagine anyone needing higher capacity models would opt for a dedicated conveyer. As long as the conveyer is just big enough to dump into a 1/3 cord bag! Looking forward to seeing that in a couple months.
Excellent real life informative video! There’s no doubt that not all horizontal splitters are created equal. No comparison to the big box horizontal vertical jobs.
The axis would be the best for me because I like to split my wood to sell square for better stacks, wish I could afford one plane Jane one would suit me. My old homemade one has over 24 years on it and its showing. You definitely make the best out there.
Hey love the videos! Both machines have their strengths and weaknesses… Using a box wedge for perfect splits sounds great in theory but from all the videos I have seen you end up having to rotate or adjust the round in order to go through the wedge properly so you have to constantly be reaching and that’s no good on the back… horizontal might be slightly faster than the axis but you are left with a lot of kindling/junk wood so by the time you separate it you end up spending more time. The axis has some junk but it’s enough where you can get away with giving it to the customer and not having To sort it or have to buy a disc cleaner. The issue I have with the axis is the conveyor is far away where you end up having to throw the wood into it and at the point I feel it’s just slightly slower to place it into an ibc tote on the side of me or even stack it into. I wish you made a vertical splitter like the split force 11/16 but had the same hight as the axis,same powder coating so it doesn’t come off, able to drive it around so it’s very portable, and had the good foot lever like the axis and that in my opinion would be the best machine. Best of both worlds
my budget only gonna let me go up to a 9-16 I think..lol.. I just for personal use for my wood boiler though... Will say though Auto-cycle is a must...
I think I would prefer less room at work height left of the operator on vertical machine so what splits off more or less falls in the conveyor hopper. But I'm sitting on my couch and never ran one.🤷♂️. Just seems like it is a long slide left to the conveyor. Love your videos.
I feel like the first machine from you guys should be the axis, and as it grows step up into the 22-28. Both great looking machines. Keep up the good work on the videos!
If I had a commercial splitter I would have a box wedge for quality control and a wood boiler to get rid of all the slash (kindling) that the box wedge makes. Most important part would be to minimize the physical effort when trying to work at this for 8 hours a day so you can make a living. I imagine the horizontal has a larger market and therefore better resale if you decide to sell.
Thinking that the vertical with box blade looks like best option and a built in conveyor be very interested in talking about options for shipping and price to New Zealand
love the precision of the vertical splitter, it makes beautiful firewood. however its hard to say no to that 12-22 pumping out splits in record time! Hell ill take one of each lol
If I get another splitter it will be horizontal. My kinetic is somewhat comparable to a vertical, it is fast and precise. The problem with my kinetic is it works me to death since it only has a 2 way wedge. I think a vertical would be about the same, but it does a have taller knife which would speed up splitting. So for those reasons I want a horizontal with a box wedge. It looks like the easiest type to run, especially if you are dealing with random diameters of wood. I think the horizontal with an attached conveyor will be a great addition to your lineup. I don't have the space to process firewood, and I hate when I have to move the splitter and conveyor. It would be nice to be able to move them as a unit.
I still think that the 22-28 with a box wedge has to be the absolute best for making premium wood that sells for top dollar. I do have a 55 foot ear corn/hay elevator that I could use to make giant piles. As a lifelong hay grower, I would bet that you could sell many of the wood elevators to HorseHay people.
Hey, Andrew. Your videos are addictive. I could waste a lot of time watching them over and over. lol I wouldn't mind upgrading my splitter, would you consider selling the cylinder and valves separately? Doesn't hurt to ask!
Hi Andrew!!😀😀 You are right about witch one is faster. But I'm one that is kinda picky about my peices and how they look. So the Axis is the one for me. I just really love to have the ability to split larger rounds into all perfect size pieces with such ease without having to try and catch the bigger blocks and pull them back to run again. Great video my friend!!😀😀 Take care and stay safe and healthy!!😀😀👍👍 Logger Al
On many channels I have seen people putting their thumbs on top of the wood when using the Axis. If I had one of those machines, I would break that habit right away!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Morning Andrew. I would love to work the Axis - it's a sharp machine no doubt. However, I think that having the horizontal to pull around behind me to different locations for one-off trees that have fallen etc might be best for my needs overall. But I can see how the Axis can provide a more effective station out in the forest if I am splitting a lot of logs. Hard to choose. Can't someone just have both??? LOL!
Andrew there is a place in the wood yard for both along w/a machine mounted splitter. Back in 1968 and 1978 the mega winter storm blow - downs in the old growth proved that to me. We had to modify a old well drilling rig with a cyl. from a ship reinforced with railroad track and a 4 cyl. Wisconsin running a big hyd. pump to process them. We cut them w/two man saws in five foot lengths and they were 6' to 8' in circumference. We pinned the center's then attached a frame and rolled them to wood yard with two Oxen. Fun,Fun... Another great video. God Bless.
Good thoughts, We don t split any pretty wood like you have. But i can make it look pretty nice with the AXIS and burn the junk in the burner. Its worked hard every week since it arrived, cheers to you and the crew for good quality workmanship, but you know that already.
Yes....that's more what the axis is designed to do. You can do boiler wood with one but its a lot better suited for bundle wood and more precision work
Horizontal much quicker and better with larger diameter rounds. No log lift on the vertical and small lapse in concentration might cause loss of a finger or two. Less chance of that with horizontal.
Yea I like the accuracy of the moving vertical blade except sometimes I’m distracted and would probably have my finger in the wrong place. I could be wrong but that table is slick and I can see an uneven piece come up and catch you when it tries to split it.
Hey Andrew. I have a 12-22 ordered for this summer. Curious about the conveyor option you mentioned for the horizontals that you are working on. I think I would be interested in that...
Nice comparison Andrew. I'm curious how slippery the working deck is on the Axis? Is there any special treatment or does the paint play a role in the ability to slide the log thru the process? Have you ever considered installing a sheet of UHWPE to the Axis's table? Some guys have been modifying their Super Splitters with UHWPE to speed up the production table.
I have thought of that joe. it does slide pretty good. I have even seen rollers on some of the australian machines. They seem like one more thing to go wrong to me though. Really appreciate the feedback and support.
Great stuff as usual! I always wonder when watching the conveyors work, would it make sense to have taller cleats? Wood seems to stack up when it’s high volume.
Ni Eric O LV - it's Big Rodders in Ireland. I have thought the same with the vast majority of conveyors I view from all the manufacturers of splitters and processors. There must be a technical reason why this cannot be rectified by a simple solution such as the one you suggested but it escapes me.
it doesn't help that much. we have run them taller before. if you watch its the rubber flap at the bottom of the conveyor that lifts keeping the cleat from grabbing the wood. you need to have the rubber flap or wood will constantly be jamming
Andrew great machines and videos ! Somebody needs to make bucking firewood easier on the back. I know a lot have a piece of equipment that can hold log up and buck up the logs but some of don’t. That’s why I got a wp 865 by wallenstein. Iam not saying my back is bad but it does save it from bending over and bucking up logs . Thanks again for great machines and videos!!
I agree. anything that takes some strain off the back goes a long way. the wallenstein does a great job of that. really appreciate the feedback and support
Andrew, what's that white stuff your working in? Ha! The Axis would be great for my bundle wood. But the box wedge would be good also. Decisions, decisions!
Each machine has its own nitch, in the bussiness. I think the vertical machine is more accepted in Aussie land and Europe than in NA. because mostly we grew up with the horizonal machines. Cost is always a big factor but production is important if you are doing it for a living. My .02 cents would always be the horizonal machine. Now if there is a 4 or 6 way wedge on the up right maybe, but I dont think that would work very well again just my .02 cents
I'm semi retired I think the axis is easier to work,and takes different types of logs. I'm not going to have truck logs coming in. I would like to take it on the road locally to split wood. Can that be road worthy. The only thing I don't like is the finger's could be exposed ? Resp Mike
Hi Andrew - it's Big Rodders in Ireland. Your horizontal models are certainly productive but I would venture to state that their output wouldn't fit into 90% of fires/stoves over here so the Axis would win hands down for me due to the accuracy of split since much of the output from the 6/8 wedge session would have to be resplit before sale. My preference with the Axis would be to have the widest knife possible, say to within 2 inches of the table edge to maximise efficiency of larger ring processing. Also, I am intriged by the large distance from the knife to the conveyor, where output has to be pushed instead of just falling onto the belt. Would it be an option to offset the knife to the left or lower the conveyor entrance and have a 45 degree drop from the left of the knife onto the lowered belt?
I think it would work a lot better with the conveyor closer. the biggest problem is the balance of the machine. When we originally built the machine we had the conveyor a lot closer to the middle of the machine (narrower axle) and found it to be really tippy.
@@EastonmadeWoodSplitters Thanks Andrew, so if you were to build a vertical with the same or similar specs to the 22-28, then you should have a power house that'll bust through anything, crotch wood the lot? Also, does the diameter of the chrome rod itself have anything to do with the tonnage, or is it just the ram diameter that gives it it's push? Thanks.
I like the horizontal machines better personally, the vertical to me would be better suited for small wood like kindling or bundles. Could a axis run a 4 way wedge little rounds could split in one shot then
I like to split at the down tree, so the Axis looks more mobile, and running into back of my pickup. I also split into 8 -10” pieces for OWB, 24” long, so don’t handle more than necessary.
Forgot to mention it will split up to 36 inches. I don't need long stroke any more I moved and don't have outdoor wood boiler any more. It also has 4 and 6 way. I still sell firewood but it is all 16 inch.
@@EastonmadeWoodSplitters Check out the Showa Atlas 300 or 451(insulated version) gloves. They are cheap and last a long time. They are the best firewood gloves I have found.
Current Timberwolf owner, I don’t sell wood. Cut split about 15 cords for my family. I am dreaming of the Axis!!!! I think price would be biggest factor....Axis has the very cool conveyer.......would be plenty fast for me. Would love to drive up meet the boys and drag one home!
I like the axis better for the larger pieces - the big chunks falling on the horizontal machines don’t look fun to deal with. Yet I don’t think the axis conveyor is tall enough for my dump truck. I liked the video with the full table depth splitting wedge on the axis better than the normal wedge.
I've been watching most of your videos and still love the axis. This is the machine I like because of the more precise split of the wood.
thats what it works best for. Really appreciate you taking the time to watch the videos george.
G'day Andrew, I think you should start a wood splitter theme park I'm sure blokes will pay for the opportunity to run those machines👍🇦🇺.
lol thats not a bad idea....we're really not far off already hahaha
I would definitely love that theme park!
@@EastonmadeWoodSplitters, with the log splitter theme park, boss man Andrew can sit back, relax, and watch the miney roll in while everyone does the work for him. LOL!
@@EastonmadeWoodSplitters it would be like Diggerland USA. Heck, maybe you could repurpose the old shop after you move!
I really feel that in the firewood business there is a need for both machines. Even in a perfect case scenario that you get the best quality logs deliver to you your still going to have a need to push wood through a multi way wedge either for production increases or the logs being better off split through a box or multi way wedge.
Love your honesty Andrew! Says a lot about ur brand🪵👊🏻
Amazing machines regardless of vertical or horizontal. I ordered the 22-28 because I am not comfortable with my hands being so close to the vertical wedge. That is just my personal fear of the proximity of that vertical wedge to my body parts.
After watching another video on which side to run from, I was intrigued by the hookaroon. Picked one up and used it for the first time yesterday. Wow! Why didn't I get one sooner! Thanks for the unintentional tip!
They save a lot of bending over. Thanks for the feedback greg. Really appreciate it
Hi Andrew. I'm probably old school but I like the speed, power, and versatility of your horizontal splitters - especially with a conveyor. That said, I can certainly appreciate the precision and portability of your vertical splitters. I presently split stove and firepit wood for myself and my family. I may explore bundle wood and/or selling cordwood in the next year. Any fines I use as kindling or burn in the backyard firepit in the summer. Ugly pieces go to the firepit too. Thanks for the video. It certainly gives good information for decision making.
Thanks for all the feedback and support Dave. Hopefully it helps some people out
For me it would depends on how my back and knees are feeling that day.
I like both.
You know that is one really good way to look at it. I'm not far off that. Really appreciate the feedback steven
@@EastonmadeWoodSplitters Totally agree with Steven. Appreciate you going back and forth like that in the video, gives a guy a lot to think on and compare. They both have their place and we get to see that well, next best thing to being there doing it ourselves.
After seeing my mate struggle with his horizontal splitter, I'm sold on the vertical. However, that was before I saw the Eastonmade horizontals and how quick and versatile they actually are. I'm in the throws of making my own vertical splitter but have no regrets, coz I only cut for myself, and therefore the accuracy's an asset over speed.
Thanks Andrew been back and forth after you had swapped out the 12-22 for the Axis on Hometown Acres...
Its a hard call the 12-22 is faster but the axis fits adams operation better
Man that Axis would be awesome for bundle wood and those nice pretty splits, but you can’t beat the speed and production on that horizontal splitter!
Thanks for the feedback and support Paul. Really appreciate it
Good video
I like to watch someone who knows how to use a piece of equipment and gets the most out of it.
thanks for the feedback and support david. Really appreciate it.
I like your new video you did a really good jop yesterday good jop buddy
Good evening. I think it's just like you said, application of your operation. Along with the wallet/checking account as well.
Also like another viewer said your back and knee's could be a factor.
Its a win,win either way.
Be safe everybody
Thanks for the feedback and support Michael. Really appreciate you taking the time to watch the video
Good, honest representation of your equipment
thanks for the feedback and support steve. Really appreciate it.
I’m anxious to see the built on conveyor on the horizontal splitters
I think they'll be a nice setup. Just finishing up the design right now
I put an order an for a 12 22 and if you offer it as a package with a 24ft conveyor I would definitely get the package instead of trying to look for a used conveyor on Facebook market. I’m not supposed to get my machine until July so I hope I can get in on this package deal.
Another thing to the folks dealing with the big rounds, this machine has a box wedge with a pull back bar so this machine is will eat right through the larger pieces without having to touch it again.
I have been watching Andrew for years now
and before power split. I can tell you that Andrew is a second generation machine maker for processing wood and him and his crew are very passionate about what they do.I even think I may have been the reason why he created the axis because about a year ago I talk to him about creating a powersplit eastonmade style because powersplit numbers didn’t add up to the power the said there machines were producing. Anyways I really can’t wait to receive my machine in July please if you see this I would really like to get a machine sooner. I have 300 cords of wood I need to get done before it gets hot and I would like to get started on it now but with a conveyor package deal. I have already paid so please get my order done ASAP. Thanks
Will get it done and soon as we can rodney. really appreciate the feedback and support
I like both wish I would’ve had them 20 years ago
3 inch box wedge for me, plus the 4-way wedge.
Thanks Andrew for explaining the advantages of the different splitters. Looking forward to what you come up with next.
Thanks for the feedback don. really appreciate the support
The horizontal with an attached conveyer like the vertical one would be great. Especially with the 5-11 model. I would imagine anyone needing higher capacity models would opt for a dedicated conveyer. As long as the conveyer is just big enough to dump into a 1/3 cord bag! Looking forward to seeing that in a couple months.
thanks for the feedback and support anthony. Really appreciate it.
I have always liked the box wedge but the vertical with the conveyor I can see the benefits of it. It is starting to grow on me
Yes I split a lot of different size rounds and it would fit my needs best. I think. I also like the Box wedge. But twice as much?
a lot more steel and time in the bigger machines.
Excellent real life informative video! There’s no doubt that not all horizontal splitters are created equal. No comparison to the big box horizontal vertical jobs.
Thanks for the feedback and support. Really appreciate it
The axis would be the best for me because I like to split my wood to sell square for better stacks, wish I could afford one plane Jane one would suit me. My old homemade one has over 24 years on it and its showing.
You definitely make the best out there.
Thanks for the feedback and support. Really appreciate it
22-28 with a four way. And a 14’ conveyer. My wood varies in size from 8” to 36”+.
You don’t want a 22-28 then for the 4 way. Get the 6 way, as you can use it for a 4 way as well
Hey love the videos! Both machines have their strengths and weaknesses…
Using a box wedge for perfect splits sounds great in theory but from all the videos I have seen you end up having to rotate or adjust the round in order to go through the wedge properly so you have to constantly be reaching and that’s no good on the back… horizontal might be slightly faster than the axis but you are left with a lot of kindling/junk wood so by the time you separate it you end up spending more time.
The axis has some junk but it’s enough where you can get away with giving it to the customer and not having
To sort it or have to buy a disc cleaner.
The issue I have with the axis is the conveyor is far away where you end up having to throw the wood into it and at the point I feel it’s just slightly slower to place it into an ibc tote on the side of me or even stack it into.
I wish you made a vertical splitter like the split force 11/16 but had the same hight as the axis,same powder coating so it doesn’t come off, able to drive it around so it’s very portable, and had the good foot lever like the axis and that in my opinion would be the best machine. Best of both worlds
my budget only gonna let me go up to a 9-16 I think..lol.. I just for personal use for my wood boiler though... Will say though Auto-cycle is a must...
I think I would prefer less room at work height left of the operator on vertical machine so what splits off more or less falls in the conveyor hopper. But I'm sitting on my couch and never ran one.🤷♂️. Just seems like it is a long slide left to the conveyor. Love your videos.
Thanks for the feedback and support Alex really appreciate it
I feel like the first machine from you guys should be the axis, and as it grows step up into the 22-28. Both great looking machines. Keep up the good work on the videos!
Thanks for the feedback and support Troy. Really appreciate it
Круть, круть, круть!!!!! Найкраші в світі дровоколи!!! Мрію і собі такого як на початку відио купити!!!!!
Thanks for the feedback. really appreciate it.
I think that the verticle would be best for a homeowner/part-time wood dealer.
Thanks for the feedback and support. Really appreciate it.
Hey Andrew, the equipment that your turning out is amazing, awesome videos keep up great work
Thanks for the feedback and support nathan. Really appreciate it.
Both machines are great 👍
Thanks davd. really appreciate it.
If I had a commercial splitter I would have a box wedge for quality control and a wood boiler to get rid of all the slash (kindling) that the box wedge makes. Most important part would be to minimize the physical effort when trying to work at this for 8 hours a day so you can make a living. I imagine the horizontal has a larger market and therefore better resale if you decide to sell.
Thinking that the vertical with box blade looks like best option and a built in conveyor be very interested in talking about options for shipping and price to New Zealand
love the precision of the vertical splitter, it makes beautiful firewood. however its hard to say no to that 12-22 pumping out splits in record time! Hell ill take one of each lol
lol some guys do. Really appreciate the feedback and support cliffy.
If I get another splitter it will be horizontal. My kinetic is somewhat comparable to a vertical, it is fast and precise. The problem with my kinetic is it works me to death since it only has a 2 way wedge. I think a vertical would be about the same, but it does a have taller knife which would speed up splitting. So for those reasons I want a horizontal with a box wedge. It looks like the easiest type to run, especially if you are dealing with random diameters of wood. I think the horizontal with an attached conveyor will be a great addition to your lineup. I don't have the space to process firewood, and I hate when I have to move the splitter and conveyor. It would be nice to be able to move them as a unit.
Thanks for the feedback and support roger. Really appreciate it!!!
Have you checked out the powersplit brand
The horizontal is faster processing but I like the shorter conveyor on the vertical splitter. Is that even a possibility?? Nice video!!!
Yes. We are coming out with a horizontal machine that will have the conveyor attached to it.
@EastonmadeWoodSplitters
This might be a Off the Wall question but where did you get those bibs! Those things are awesome!
If i were a betting man i would guess canadian tire.
I still think that the 22-28 with a box wedge has to be the absolute best for making premium wood that sells for top dollar. I do have a 55 foot ear corn/hay elevator that I could use to make giant piles. As a lifelong hay grower, I would bet that you could sell many of the wood elevators to HorseHay people.
I think they would work really well for hay but haven't ever tried before. Really appreciate the feedback and support.
Hey, Andrew. Your videos are addictive. I could waste a lot of time watching them over and over. lol
I wouldn't mind upgrading my splitter, would you consider selling the cylinder and valves separately? Doesn't hurt to ask!
We don't normally sell parts separately
Nice editing
thanks. I think I'm getting better at it. really appreciate the support
Hi Andrew!!😀😀
You are right about witch one is faster. But I'm one that is kinda picky about my peices and how they look. So the Axis is the one for me. I just really love to have the ability to split larger rounds into all perfect size pieces with such ease without having to try and catch the bigger blocks and pull them back to run again.
Great video my friend!!😀😀
Take care and stay safe and healthy!!😀😀👍👍
Logger Al
You're right on with that al. Thanks for the feedback and support. Really appreciate it.
Andrew are you contemplating making a processor incorporating a box wedge.
No....japa has a patent on it.
gREAT vIDEO i NOTICED Are you using a different oil cooler ? or did you just relocATE HOW THE HOSES ARE CONNECTED ?
Yep. Its a little bigger fits in the same spot. We may go back to the smaller one in the new year.
On many channels I have seen people putting their thumbs on top of the wood when using the Axis. If I had one of those machines, I would break that habit right away!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Good comparison. thnx
thanks for the feedback and support really appreciate it.
As long as it has a lift for the rounds I'll figure out the rest of it LOL
Morning Andrew. I would love to work the Axis - it's a sharp machine no doubt. However, I think that having the horizontal to pull around behind me to different locations for one-off trees that have fallen etc might be best for my needs overall. But I can see how the Axis can provide a more effective station out in the forest if I am splitting a lot of logs. Hard to choose. Can't someone just have both??? LOL!
It is a toss up for sure gord. I'm not sure what would be best. Really appreciate all the support gord. Cheers!!!
Andrew there is a place in the wood yard for both along w/a machine mounted splitter. Back in 1968 and 1978 the mega winter storm blow - downs in the old growth proved that to me. We had to modify a old well drilling rig with a cyl. from a ship reinforced with railroad track and a 4 cyl. Wisconsin running a big hyd. pump to process them. We cut them w/two man saws in five foot lengths and they were 6' to 8' in circumference. We pinned the center's then attached a frame and rolled them to wood yard with two Oxen. Fun,Fun...
Another great video. God Bless.
thanks for the feedback and support wesley. really appreciate it.
Good thoughts, We don t split any pretty wood like you have. But i can make it look pretty nice with the AXIS and burn the junk in the burner. Its worked hard every week since it arrived, cheers to you and the crew for good quality workmanship, but you know that already.
Thanks for the feedback and support dan. Glad you're enjoying it.
Don’t you think you’re splitting a bit small on the axis? To me it looks like kindling... I’ve also thought the same watching hometown acres videos.
Yes....that's more what the axis is designed to do. You can do boiler wood with one but its a lot better suited for bundle wood and more precision work
I prefer the horizontal, in fact, I have been trying to buy a 9-16 for the past week but no one has returned my email or call.
I know we are behind on emails for sure. Email me and i will have someone get in touch with you tomorrow. Andrew@eastonmadewoodsplitters.com
@@EastonmadeWoodSplitters thanks for the quick reply, and the advice on splitters. Ordered the 12-22. Andrew and crew are top
Notch. Thank you!
Horizontal much quicker and better with larger diameter rounds. No log lift on the vertical and small lapse in concentration might cause loss of a finger or two. Less chance of that with horizontal.
Yea I like the accuracy of the moving vertical blade except sometimes I’m distracted and would probably have my finger in the wrong place. I could be wrong but that table is slick and I can see an uneven piece come up and catch you when it tries to split it.
Hey Andrew. I have a 12-22 ordered for this summer. Curious about the conveyor option you mentioned for the horizontals that you are working on. I think I would be interested in that...
Should have everything finalized in the new year. We could do it for your machine no problem.
Nice comparison Andrew. I'm curious how slippery the working deck is on the Axis? Is there any special treatment or does the paint play a role in the ability to slide the log thru the process? Have you ever considered installing a sheet of UHWPE to the Axis's table? Some guys have been modifying their Super Splitters with UHWPE to speed up the production table.
I have thought of that joe. it does slide pretty good. I have even seen rollers on some of the australian machines. They seem like one more thing to go wrong to me though. Really appreciate the feedback and support.
I’ll split the difference... I will try a diagonal splitter! 😂😂😂 with enough force to launch the blocks into a wood pile!
Great stuff as usual! I always wonder when watching the conveyors work, would it make sense to have taller cleats? Wood seems to stack up when it’s high volume.
Ni Eric O LV - it's Big Rodders in Ireland. I have thought the same with the vast majority of conveyors I view from all the manufacturers of splitters and processors. There must be a technical reason why this cannot be rectified by a simple solution such as the one you suggested but it escapes me.
it doesn't help that much. we have run them taller before. if you watch its the rubber flap at the bottom of the conveyor that lifts keeping the cleat from grabbing the wood. you need to have the rubber flap or wood will constantly be jamming
I love my splitter
Horizontal only. Seems to work better for me and easier on my back.
Thanks for the feedback jack. really appreciate it.
12-22 with a box wedge, cant beat it. Haven't had a knotty piece yet it wouldn't eat through. Have split 48" diameter red oaks with it as well.
Your 12-22 doesn’t split knotty wood?
22-28 with a box wedge. There, I just bet it, beated it... beat it!
@@mikewilliams1375 *Wouldnt
@@SeriousSchitt That's a beast, I settled for the faster cycle time.
The more I see of the Axis, the more I like it. Andrew, what is the distance from the table top to the bottom of the wedge or its guard?
24"
@@EastonmadeWoodSplitters Thank you.
Axis for me would be the way to go but out of reach price wise, sadly my Princess Auto 22 ton vertical has to do, great vid though Andrew.
thanks for taking the time to watch the video and leave some feedback. Really appreciate it
Andrew great machines and videos ! Somebody needs to make bucking firewood easier on the back. I know a lot have a piece of equipment that can hold log up and buck up the logs but some of don’t. That’s why I got a wp 865 by wallenstein. Iam not saying my back is bad but it does save it from bending over and bucking up logs . Thanks again for great machines and videos!!
I agree. anything that takes some strain off the back goes a long way. the wallenstein does a great job of that. really appreciate the feedback and support
The Vertical machine I would be interested in . Without the conveyer, What is the price
Money aside I would go with the horizontal. Factoring in the price difference for me i would with the axis.
Thanks for the feedback zeke. really appreciate it
Quick question: Is the numbering system of your splitters based on horsepower and GPM?
Yes
@@EastonmadeWoodSplitters Thank you!
Ive got a timberwolf conveyer will it match up with the axis
Yes
both all in #1 vertical- horiznal all in 1
Speed 22-28 ... but 2 guys to keep it fed. Precision Axis. Best compromise is 22-28 with Box Wedge. JMO.
thanks for the feedback and support jeff. really appreciate it.
Andrew, what's that white stuff your working in? Ha! The Axis would be great for my bundle wood. But the box wedge would be good also. Decisions, decisions!
Getting lots more of it today!!!
Each machine has its own nitch, in the bussiness. I think the vertical machine is more accepted in Aussie land and Europe than in NA. because mostly we grew up with the horizonal machines. Cost is always a big factor but production is important if you are doing it for a living. My .02 cents would always be the horizonal machine. Now if there is a 4 or 6 way wedge on the up right maybe, but I dont think that would work very well again just my .02 cents
Thanks for the feedback and support skeets. Really appreciate it.
I'm semi retired I think the axis is easier to work,and takes different types of logs. I'm not going to have truck logs coming in. I would like to take it on the road locally to split wood. Can that be road worthy. The only thing I don't like is the finger's could be exposed ? Resp Mike
The axis tows really well.
I think the axis would work best for me I get a lot of big ugly wood from a tree service
It is a lot easier to make nice wood and work around the knots. really appreciate the feedback and support vernon.
Horizontal
LOVE that hat, Andrew. Give you $4.00 for it. What'd ya say??
Id be more prone to the horizontal, simply because of the time versus the vertical. Curious as to what you do with all your split wood?
Burn most of it in the wood boiler for the shop. When it gets cold we will burn a face cord in a day.
Hi Andrew - it's Big Rodders in Ireland. Your horizontal models are certainly productive but I would venture to state that their output wouldn't fit into 90% of fires/stoves over here so the Axis would win hands down for me due to the accuracy of split since much of the output from the 6/8 wedge session would have to be resplit before sale. My preference with the Axis would be to have the widest knife possible, say to within 2 inches of the table edge to maximise efficiency of larger ring processing. Also, I am intriged by the large distance from the knife to the conveyor, where output has to be pushed instead of just falling onto the belt. Would it be an option to offset the knife to the left or lower the conveyor entrance and have a 45 degree drop from the left of the knife onto the lowered belt?
I think it would work a lot better with the conveyor closer. the biggest problem is the balance of the machine. When we originally built the machine we had the conveyor a lot closer to the middle of the machine (narrower axle) and found it to be really tippy.
Hey Andrew, why is the horizontals more powerful than the verticals?
size of the cylinder. the vertical machine has a small cylinder so it can run a smaller pump, have a fast cycle and keep the cost down.
@@EastonmadeWoodSplitters Thanks Andrew, so if you were to build a vertical with the same or similar specs to the 22-28, then you should have a power house that'll bust through anything, crotch wood the lot? Also, does the diameter of the chrome rod itself have anything to do with the tonnage, or is it just the ram diameter that gives it it's push? Thanks.
@@SeriousSchitt just the ram diameter....would take a lot of beefing up to put that 22-28 stuff on there lol
@@EastonmadeWoodSplitters Haha, thanks Andrew, I guess I'll have to show you a piccy of it when I'm done then.
When will you start shipping to the UK,and who will be the dealer?
we have started now. Get in touch with ian gregory from www.logsandsaws.co.uk
Andrew how long of wait to buy 12/22
Booking into november right now.
We just went with a gas fireplace with a remote. Way cheaper & less work. Lol.
Lol I was just thinking his go pro is not in a safe place..
I like the horizontal machines better personally, the vertical to me would be better suited for small wood like kindling or bundles. Could a axis run a 4 way wedge little rounds could split in one shot then
I don't think you will see us do a 4 way on the axis. I just think it's to much of a safety risk
I like to split at the down tree, so the Axis looks more mobile, and running into back of my pickup. I also split into 8 -10” pieces for OWB, 24” long, so don’t handle more than necessary.
Horizontal with box wedge for me. Too much labor with vertical splitters - nor do I like hands always near the pointy end.
Horizontal just less handling of the wood with a 4 or 6 way wedge and so much faster.
Thanks for the feedback adam. Really appreciate it.
Andrew, is your website down? It's showing a 404 Error when I go to it.
Back up and going now
I've got a 12-22 i love it but no conveyer. Now I want an axis instead of buying a stand alone conveyer. You take trade ins?
yep for sure. I would think we could get rid of your 12-22 pretty easily mark.
Where are you located ? Might be interested in your 12-22.
Forgot to mention it will split up to 36 inches. I don't need long stroke any more I moved and don't have outdoor wood boiler any more. It also has 4 and 6 way. I still sell firewood but it is all 16 inch.
What state are you located in ??
Western New York
Really leaning towards the axis. Not sure if the conveyor would work with my dump trailer with 3 ft side walls. Any way an extension could be added?
Right now we don't offer a longer one. the sides on this one are well over 6' ruclips.net/video/EpDyi7aycHE/видео.html
@@EastonmadeWoodSplitters thanks, somehow missed this video. I appreciate it.
Even when you own the place, you STILL have to mark your gloves with your initials so people don't take 'em!
Lol its a sad reality hahhaha. You'll notice these one are half worn out. I'm not allowed another pair
@@EastonmadeWoodSplitters Check out the Showa Atlas 300 or 451(insulated version) gloves. They are cheap and last a long time. They are the best firewood gloves I have found.
Hope your right... just ordered a 12 pack from Amazon
@@sureflamefirewood4174 You should like them. I have a video on my channel about them.
Hey Andrew how’s it going I was wouldering if you have any used elevator
nothing used right now ben
Its already been said, but your website is down! 404 error. Hopefully its a quick fix. :)
Just got it back up ben
Do you have a four way wedge for the axis
no we won't do one just for safety sake
Horizontal with box wedge
Thanks for the feedback and support mike. Really appreciate it.
Current Timberwolf owner, I don’t sell wood. Cut split about 15 cords for my family. I am dreaming of the Axis!!!! I think price would be biggest factor....Axis has the very cool conveyer.......would be plenty fast for me. Would love to drive up meet the boys and drag one home!
Hopefully all this pandemic stuff slows down and you're able to make the trip some day. Really appreciate the support guerry.
I like the axis better for the larger pieces - the big chunks falling on the horizontal machines don’t look fun to deal with. Yet I don’t think the axis conveyor is tall enough for my dump truck. I liked the video with the full table depth splitting wedge on the axis better than the normal wedge.
thanks for the feedback and suppor chris. Really appreciate it. You could always buy the axis with a standalone conveyor for loading your dumptruck.
Number one ☝️
What’s your brand of pickaroon?
logrite
Will the new 12-22/ conveyer combo be available after a machine is purchased?
I don't think it will be. It will be a dedicated machine made for the conveyor
@@EastonmadeWoodSplitters well hurry up then ...suppose to pick up 12-22 in March... 😆 🤣