When I'm working all day on the splitter, you just proved to me that the vertical splitter is less work on my body. I think when set up with a Honda motor, the vertical is the latest in technology. It naturally resembles an axe the way it is a vertical split- coupled with a horizontal table. You just sold me on the vertical for our winter work.
Can we get Everett on the CountyLine for the next comparison?? I still remember the day he was single handedly whoopin' up on you two running the 28 Pro!🤠
Great comparison Matt. I think I’ll do a video with the box wedge and similar size pieces. The bottom line is that each style of splitter has its pros and cons. The best for your situation depends on a lot of variables.
You are correct. I would like to see that comparison. I feel the box wedge brings the cycle time down quite a bit versus a 4 way wedge. But who knows until you test it.
Wow awesome video! I always thought the ergonomics of the vertical would be ideal for bigger rounds but to see it in a real time comparison was great! Thanks for the video
Horizontal works best with a 2 person operation. Still messy. Vertical works best for a single person operation. Much cleaner and far more precise with the cuts. Good comparison. Thank you.
I work on the log lift side of my 28c. Sometimes it's not the most convenient but it's definitely more time efficient. The 17vs seems like a heck of a machine though!
Yes for smaller wood you can work on the log lift side but it’s definitely tougher on the back. I would say 80% or more people split on the other side.
i like the big vertical splitters the work is up there easy to move around.and looks like the table top on it would be a good place for my belly to rest on.that will be my next splitter
I think you made some great points on horizontal vs vertical! Some of which most people wouldn’t think of! I seen right away when considering a splitter with a log lift the walking around the machine every time! Great video Matt👊🏻
That’s awesome, the inverted splitter is definitely a time saver and a back saver. I saw this on one of your earlier videos n saving up for an inverted splitter now. Thanks for your videos
Just found your channel, when Wolfe Ridge linked it on Facebook, and I'm looking forward to watching more! One thing I notice in all the videos I see of vertical splitters like this is how close people keep their hands to the wedge as the wood splits. My day job is as an ER nurse, so it makes me wonder if there's a difference in injury rates with vertical vs horizontal splitters. Seems like having your thumb positioned an inch off without realizing it could lead to a shorter thumb!
Thanks for watching! Welcome to the channel! I would say the vertical splitter would cause more injuries than a vertical but the option a horizontal has that a vertical doesn’t have is auto cycle. Auto cycle could be dangerous.
One advantage of the horizontal is you get to keep all your fingers and thumbs. On the horizontal he has one hand on the lever and the other away from the cutting( on most cuts). The vertical looks much more intimate in operation. Your body, face, and hands are much closer.
hi there wood splitter Merry go round .alot of time used up on the 4 way going up -down ,check with a stop watch the real cycle time and you can calculate witch one should be faster , good show ,john
Good video Matt! I think one of the big advantages of vertical is you can easily turn around and stack it or toss it. If you stacked off horizontal or tossed it it’d take a lot longer making circles around the machine. Vertical also doesn’t require a conveyor to get fast times. Horizontal I think needs a real conveyor if you want to maximize its potential. Cons, vertical is big and bulky, I think there too tall for most garage doors? I’ll be curious to see why you end up with in 6 months 😂
Yea all those points are valid and I agree. The 17vs is too tall for my garage. I’m not sure the exact height but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s 9.5 to 10ft tall.
Good side by side comparison 👍 I think your comments, as well as other's comments, that each machine has it's strengths and weaknesses is a fair assessment. I guess the quality of the splits would be the determining factor for me 🤷
I've never timed it, but I've always felt my box store splitter was quicker to use in the vertical position. Split horizontal a few times over ten years ago, set to vertical and never looked back. Easier on the body to manipulate the rounds as well. Looking forward to selling enough wood to put the 17VS in my woodyard.
One comparison that needs to be made between the vertical and horizontal splitter is the amount of waste that they make when splitting. If I'm going to spend the money to bring the wood into the yard, then buck it up, only to make 10% waste on the horizontal vs minimal waste on the vertical, then I'll go with the vertical splitter every time.
Without a doubt the vertical makes way less waste and I don’t think anyone is going to disagree with that. What people will say is they would be willing to waste a little more wood for speed which will allow for more production.
im getting my 17 vsc in may my problem is bending over to split but my biggest reason for going vertical is slash and control of size i dont care if a 6 way is faster i dont like slash and big pieces
I'm 65. Which splitter would you think is going to be more tiring to use? It looks like the vertical you "handle" the material less which would be important to me. I'm too old to be working too hard.
I would say a vertical would be your best bet. It’s easier on your back. The only big downside to the vertical is its speed compared to the horizontal.
Also worth noting, when using the vertical, you were tossing the splits into the bin. Not a huge time consumer, but was something u werent doing on the horizontal.
What I run a 4 way I set it to make the size at the bottom and only bring back the top 2 pieces.. maybe try that because it seems you move the 4way too many times.. maybe.. I don't know.. each there own.. that vertical definitely shines on custom splits
Yeah I usually do that when the round is small but when the round is big it makes wide pieces on the bottom so I will have to resplit them. I have found that splitting the rounds in equal four parts I can send each quarter through the 4 way once for all even pieces. Sometimes the quarter is too big and I still have to resplit one piece. That is my thinking behind that.
The vertical I could do all day....but gotta say I think I'm getting a bit too old to do my old horizontal....The heart is willing. The body....not so much.🤨
Definitely not surprized. Maybe not so pampered, my splitter can do both vertical and horizontal, use the vertical for when the stumps are too heavy to be lifting and horizontal if it's just a bunch of small stuff. Oh and mine only does one split at a time. Starting to notice everyone keeps over splitting their wood also, if you left those chunks with one less split they would burn a whole lot longer in your stove!
The Differences between 28C VS 17VS if your doing Production and you have a second person helping you with a conveyor the 28C is the way to go, 17VS if your dealing big rounds the 17VS is the way to go if your working on your own the or dealing with boiler wood or tree service wood bundle wood the 17VS is the way to go,
I still think it would be faster to run it from the other side because you would have to walk around the log lift. Now I’m talking about doing big rounds. With small rounds you can stand on the log lift and split which would be faster.
When I'm working all day on the splitter, you just proved to me that the vertical splitter is less work on my body. I think when set up with a Honda motor, the vertical is the latest in technology. It naturally resembles an axe the way it is a vertical split- coupled with a horizontal table. You just sold me on the vertical for our winter work.
Sounds like you know what you are getting! I’m glad I could help!
Great video Matt, sounds like everyone needs one of each machine! 😂😂
Haha I think so!
Can we get Everett on the CountyLine for the next comparison?? I still remember the day he was single handedly whoopin' up on you two running the 28 Pro!🤠
lol he’s got that countyline dialed in haha. @EsFirewood
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Great comparison Matt. I think I’ll do a video with the box wedge and similar size pieces. The bottom line is that each style of splitter has its pros and cons. The best for your situation depends on a lot of variables.
You are correct. I would like to see that comparison. I feel the box wedge brings the cycle time down quite a bit versus a 4 way wedge. But who knows until you test it.
Wow awesome video! I always thought the ergonomics of the vertical would be ideal for bigger rounds but to see it in a real time comparison was great! Thanks for the video
Thank you and thanks for watching. I plan on doing another comparison with a big round.
Horizontal works best with a 2 person operation. Still messy. Vertical works best for a single person operation. Much cleaner and far more precise with the cuts. Good comparison. Thank you.
I believe you are correct but I’m going to do a comparison on that as well to see.
Really like your comparison!! Each machine has its place!! Stay Hydrated and Have a Safe Day
Thanks, you too!
I work on the log lift side of my 28c. Sometimes it's not the most convenient but it's definitely more time efficient.
The 17vs seems like a heck of a machine though!
Yes for smaller wood you can work on the log lift side but it’s definitely tougher on the back. I would say 80% or more people split on the other side.
Thanks for making the video. 👍
No problem, thanks for watching!
Great video. It’s like comparing a truck vs a SUV. If money is no object I’d take both 😂
You are correct both would be the best solution lol.
Great video!! New to your channel! Have a great day!
Thank you and welcome to the channel! Have a great day!
i like the big vertical splitters the work is up there easy to move around.and looks like the table top on it would be a good place for my belly to rest on.that will be my next splitter
It definitely is easier on the body using the vertical splitter.
I think you made some great points on horizontal vs vertical! Some of which most people wouldn’t think of! I seen right away when considering a splitter with a log lift the walking around the machine every time! Great video Matt👊🏻
Thank you and there’s pros and cons to all the splitters . I think you are right a vertical splitter is easier to work around by yourself for sure.
That’s awesome, the inverted splitter is definitely a time saver and a back saver. I saw this on one of your earlier videos n saving up for an inverted splitter now. Thanks for your videos
Thank you and thanks for watching. I don’t think you can go wrong with a vertical splitter.
I forgot to comment before, but this is a great and helpful video for those looking at either machine. Thanks Matt!
Awesome, I’m glad I could help!
A very interesting comparison. I look forward to seeing this comparison with 30”+ rounds. I’ll be watching 👍
Thank you and yes it will be a fun one for sure.
Just found your channel, when Wolfe Ridge linked it on Facebook, and I'm looking forward to watching more! One thing I notice in all the videos I see of vertical splitters like this is how close people keep their hands to the wedge as the wood splits. My day job is as an ER nurse, so it makes me wonder if there's a difference in injury rates with vertical vs horizontal splitters. Seems like having your thumb positioned an inch off without realizing it could lead to a shorter thumb!
Thanks for watching! Welcome to the channel! I would say the vertical splitter would cause more injuries than a vertical but the option a horizontal has that a vertical doesn’t have is auto cycle. Auto cycle could be dangerous.
One advantage of the horizontal is you get to keep all your fingers and thumbs. On the horizontal he has one hand on the lever and the other away from the cutting( on most cuts). The vertical looks much more intimate in operation. Your body, face, and hands are much closer.
You are right the vertical is much more intimate and more dangerous when it comes to your fingers.
hi there wood splitter Merry go round .alot of time used up on the 4 way going up -down ,check with a stop watch the real cycle time and you can calculate witch one should be faster , good show ,john
Yeah adjusting the 4 way is a part of the process. I’ll get a stop watch next time I do it.
Good video Matt! I think one of the big advantages of vertical is you can easily turn around and stack it or toss it. If you stacked off horizontal or tossed it it’d take a lot longer making circles around the machine. Vertical also doesn’t require a conveyor to get fast times. Horizontal I think needs a real conveyor if you want to maximize its potential. Cons, vertical is big and bulky, I think there too tall for most garage doors? I’ll be curious to see why you end up with in 6 months 😂
Yea all those points are valid and I agree. The 17vs is too tall for my garage. I’m not sure the exact height but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s 9.5 to 10ft tall.
Good side by side comparison 👍 I think your comments, as well as other's comments, that each machine has it's strengths and weaknesses is a fair assessment. I guess the quality of the splits would be the determining factor for me 🤷
Well said! It’s what works best for you.
Nice comparison. I think were horizontal shine for one and done push. Like you say under 14 inch wood. Keep up the good work.
I believe you are correct. Thanks
I've never timed it, but I've always felt my box store splitter was quicker to use in the vertical position. Split horizontal a few times over ten years ago, set to vertical and never looked back. Easier on the body to manipulate the rounds as well. Looking forward to selling enough wood to put the 17VS in my woodyard.
Yeah maybe. You should time it and see. It’s all about comfort and speed.
One comparison that needs to be made between the vertical and horizontal splitter is the amount of waste that they make when splitting. If I'm going to spend the money to bring the wood into the yard, then buck it up, only to make 10% waste on the horizontal vs minimal waste on the vertical, then I'll go with the vertical splitter every time.
Without a doubt the vertical makes way less waste and I don’t think anyone is going to disagree with that. What people will say is they would be willing to waste a little more wood for speed which will allow for more production.
im getting my 17 vsc in may my problem is bending over to split but my biggest reason for going vertical is slash and control of size i dont care if a 6 way is faster i dont like slash and big pieces
I agree with you those are great reasons for going vertical. I don’t use a 6 way myself. I think the vertical is pretty close to the speed of a way.
I'm 65. Which splitter would you think is going to be more tiring to use? It looks like the vertical you "handle" the material less which would be important to me. I'm too old to be working too hard.
I would say a vertical would be your best bet. It’s easier on your back. The only big downside to the vertical is its speed compared to the horizontal.
@@FirewoodontheHill Thanks Matt
@@Pastaman350 no problem
Also worth noting, when using the vertical, you were tossing the splits into the bin. Not a huge time consumer, but was something u werent doing on the horizontal.
Yes that is true.
What I run a 4 way I set it to make the size at the bottom and only bring back the top 2 pieces.. maybe try that because it seems you move the 4way too many times.. maybe.. I don't know.. each there own.. that vertical definitely shines on custom splits
Nice set up my friend.. you definitely came a long way since your front yard days
Yeah I usually do that when the round is small but when the round is big it makes wide pieces on the bottom so I will have to resplit them. I have found that splitting the rounds in equal four parts I can send each quarter through the 4 way once for all even pieces. Sometimes the quarter is too big and I still have to resplit one piece. That is my thinking behind that.
And the vertical, you are not lifting(just repositioning) any large pieces which is a back saver.
Agreed. That saves back but works your shoulders.
The vertical I could do all day....but gotta say I think I'm getting a bit too old to do my old horizontal....The heart is willing. The body....not so much.🤨
I can agree with that. The vertical is easier on the back.
Did ya get the speed worked out on ur conveyor ???
Yes the bigger motor did slow it down a bit!
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Ya need the 2 belts , a double pulley in the middle (big & small) ???
Definitely not surprized. Maybe not so pampered, my splitter can do both vertical and horizontal, use the vertical for when the stumps are too heavy to be lifting and horizontal if it's just a bunch of small stuff. Oh and mine only does one split at a time. Starting to notice everyone keeps over splitting their wood also, if you left those chunks with one less split they would burn a whole lot longer in your stove!
Yeah my customer wants small pieces and small pieces also drive faster
The vertical.. cleaner nicer looking wood
The Differences between 28C VS 17VS if your doing Production and you have a second person helping you with a conveyor the 28C is the way to go, 17VS if your dealing big rounds the 17VS is the way to go if your working on your own the or dealing with boiler wood or tree service wood bundle wood the 17VS is the way to go,
Yes those statements are pretty spot on. Maybe I should do a video of two people running each splitter.
Not being able to split from the log loader side would be a deal breaker for me.
I run from the log lift side all the time on the 28c, just need to be comfortable running the controls with your left hand.
Good to know@@WolfeRidgeSplitters
Yes you can run it from either side it’s just ones more comfortable then the other.
OK, so not a very accurate comparison.@@FirewoodontheHill
I still think it would be faster to run it from the other side because you would have to walk around the log lift. Now I’m talking about doing big rounds. With small rounds you can stand on the log lift and split which would be faster.