As the director and crew stated, the shepherd was not supposed to be there. It was a long shot (had to be in order for the proper sun/cross ratio) and was supposed to have no one in it. There were soldiers and crew tasked with keeping the entire area clear. Then this bedouin shepherd appears from nowhere. When they saw it in post production, someone said, "We have to shoot it again." But Jewison said to keep it. In a recent interview, Ted Neely said there were so many elements of this film that came together that were like a gift. One of them was that shepherd. In the documentary, Superstars, the director said this was the most mystical moment in the film. To this day Jewison does not know who that was.
This is one of my very favorite movies of all time. I'm not into musicals but love this movie. I grew up with JC Superstar, Woodstock, Elton John, and Rod Stewart's 1st solo album. Someone who gets this movie, it is very misunderstood. It has been much maligned but, I love it. Judas, Carl Anderson, hit it out of the park. He is the VERY best. He just hit it out of the park. I like that you can see how everyone pulling him/Jesus this way and that. Everyone has an idea of their Messiah, and what he should do. I was doubtful about clicking this. Thanks. Someone else that gets it. Thanks. Take care and have fun!!! 😎😃😎
To use a contemporary example, the multi-year/season series The Chosen; the director uses the term "Red Sea Moments." It is when the director (and/or anyone else) had NO CONTROL, "someone else" added to it. Watching the interviews with the principle cast and crew of JCS (1973) there were many of those moments back in 1972.
It has been many years since I saw this movie, and I happen to stumble across it on Amazon Prime over last weekend. Of course I had to watch it. In fact I watched it back to back 3 times, and a few more times during this past week. I graduated high school in 1972, and one of my teachers knew that I loved the music, and he bought me the Jesus Christ Superstar album as a graduation gift. I played that album many, many many times over the years. Since computers weren't even invented yet, I was in the dark about any information concerning the movie. I only knew of it as being a rock opera, stage play, Years later I rented the movie from a Blockbuster, and that was my first time experiencing this amazing film. The other night I watched the Superstars Documentary, and that's when I learned about the image of a shepherd crossing at the bottom of the screen, at the end of the film, and of course, I had to watch the movie again, and sure enough, I saw him. I never noticed him before, and I have to say, that it gave me chills. I absolutely love Jesus Christ Superstar. It's an iconic film, and the music will never get old.
@@1991ROLEX I LOVE The Chosen, and watch it just about constantly. I was also thrilled to find the movie, Jesus Christ Superstar, on Amazon Prime this part weekend. I've watched it about 5 times already. I just love it.
I have seen this movie many times since I was 12 years old. 50, maybe 100 times. It really doesn't matter. I am 60 years old now. What matters is that I have never been able to put into words, what it is, what this film does to me, and why I can never get enough of this 1973 JCS film. I feel this film is a part of my existence. Even I would have been another person if this film had not been made. Jokingly, I once wrote on a JCS Facebook page that I am addicted to this movie. An addiction that I cherish. I just finished listening to and watching your video. I divided that over two days, and at the very end I got emotional. But man, I am so happy with this review from you. English is not my 1st language, so I will definitely listen to this video more often to try to understand your vision even better. With this, I hope to have come a little closer to where my "obsession" with this film comes from. Yes, definitely for me the best film ever made. With your comments in mind, I will see the film many times over. Thank you very much! And God bless you!!
Perfectly said, Im coming 61 this year and feel exactly the same as you. I seem to get into the JCS vibe every year around this time, still love it to this day. :)
Carl Anderson's performance is just out of control! His talent is so passionate, powerful and unmatched. No one could ever fill his shoes. I met him when I was 8 after a JCSS stage performance and it was magical.
As a Gen Xer raised by Boomer/hippie parents, I was exposed to JCS through my parents - my parents weren’t at all religious but played the JCS music all day in the summers of my youth. My mother sang “I don’t know how to love him” and “everything’s alright” all the time as she wandered through our house or with us at the beach or preparing dinner or painting…I always felt most connected with JC through this music and through the film, which I love on their own but also for the memories. JCS and Watership Down (book and film) taught me about myth and spirituality and religion in the most beautiful ways, and they did so more profoundly than anything I was taught at religious schools or churches.
Best Jesus film of them all. Having an amazing, ready-made soundtrack before they even started casting helped a lot. But so much of this film stands on its own as original and cinematic genius. I may be an atheist, but this is one of my favorite films of all time.
Fellow atheist here- and also rate this in my own personal Top 10- juat phenomenal musically. Totally overcomes the illogic and just plain silliness of the . Jesus "saga." One viewing of this films more inspiring than a thousand church services.
THIS was absolutely OUTSTANDING! Part homily, sermon, and dissertation-- this is you at your BEST. I'm proud you shed expectations, and are now free to do you. I have been waiting for something like this. Jesus Christ Superstar is one of my favorites, and you gave it such a depth that I sat here watching this LIKE I WAS IN CHURCH! If ever you set up Patron services, please count me in!
I can't say how much I appreciate your encouragement :) It really means the world to me to know that you enjoyed it so much. Thank you for your comment, it really made my day :)
@@ramblingdirector446 I have never seen anything from your account and I am with Mr. @Stevenr540. You should start a Patreo. I'm in also. I am an Episcopalian and you explained why I LOVE this film. Lots of people pound on this film because it's not Biblical. Um, it wasn't supposed to be. Like you said, these are young actors playing these parts. I loved the end of this, when at first, Judas wants answers and now, he is asking questions. I thought that was a very astute observation by you. Like you said, HE helped kill the truth. I subscribed.
@@TitanicHorseRacingLover Thank you so much for your comment! I actually do have Patreon I link in the description for most of my videos! I don't advertise it alot in my videos but it's there :) I am so glad you enjoyed the video and I'm happy to have you subscribed and onboard as we go forward :)
Rather than "rambling" I found a direct hit on the reasons I have kept coming back to JCS over the years. Yes, the music is incredible, the performances are impressive, and at 66 years old the relaxed, free-spirited vibe of the 70s staging feels like home. But what you've done is put into words why the album and then this movie informed and adjusted my relationship to Jesus, Christianity, and God. I discovered this movie when I was still a fundamentalist and yet disappointed in the message of judgemental-ism rather than love, struggle, and forgiveness. My landing in a place of "open exploration" toward Jesus ended up ending my relationship with my family and it took a couple of decades before two of my seven siblings have reconnected with me and one of those is very strained. A few years before my mother died (2 years ago) she asked me to "make my life right" with God. I replied that my God and I are fine. Your analysis has given me some words that I might use to begin to explain my journey to siblings. Thank you. BTW, I found this because I"m planning on seeing a performance of this in Amsterdam in Feb '24 at De La Mar.
Great video and analysis. By the way, I recently watched a documentary where Norman Jewison talked about how the shepherd (and sheep) at the end of the film was an actual local shepherd who happened to walk through the shot as they were filming. Rather than redo the shot Jewison decided to keep it in.
I can’t wait to hear your commentary. Since I was in grade school I’ve been very familiar with the soundtrack as it was a favorite of my father’s. I did a paper on it in high school. When I took on the project I planned to criticize the many Scriptural and theological errors throughout the heretical rock opera. But by the end, I came to love it. My dad (an American Baptist minister, who immersed me when I was 8) helped me to see its genius. He rightly describes it as the Gospel of Judas. JCS was the only one, out of both parents and dozens of SS teachers, who effectively taught me that while Jesus was/is 100% God, He was also 100% human. “I Only Want to Say”fundamentally changed my own theology about Christ’s sacrifice. He didn’t do it easily because He was God. He did it IN SPITE of the abject fear of the impending terror and excruciating agony out of love for mankind and for me. No greater love…
First, this is an excellent and thoughtful analysis. Thanks for this! When I was a child I saw this movie when it first came out, and dozens of times since. I also see it as being clear that these are actors. At the time, there was a tv show called "Story Theatre" where an ensemble cast of.. well, hippies basically lol ... would act out stories with dramatic effect, recite the stage directions, and sometimes mime the props. This had the same feel for me; a film about a cast putting on a play to tell a story. They perform knowing we are watching them. In the end, some realise that God is also watching them. Maybe they're afraid at the end: Did they do anything wrong here? What just happened? That said, Carl Anderson absolutely had a gift with that voice. The strength and emotion and technical ability, top tier.
Oh this is brilliant. Finally I have met another person who believes in what I thought about this movie. My mum took me to see it when it first came out, and I have watched it every year of my life since, and I am 59. from that day, I knew this was the truth, and I understood without knowing that it was the greatest interpretation of Jesus every made in film. The artists that wrote the movie were just an instrument in a folding story of his story being told. Andrew was needed to write absolutely brilliant stirring music, and the singers and actors, every one of them is perfect. It took Norman to be the final touch. HIs heart made that movie. Thank you, may I call you a friend. As this Theology you made is brilliant. I will share it on my FB Thank you so much
@@whiptech The music brings the lyrics to life and propels the lyrics, exalting them to a higher level. But yes, the lyrics stuck with me as a young child and to this day. I memorized the entire album/lyrics.
I agree with the "it's a play" concept, what is clever is they make no illusions about this from the start, however you get so sucked in to this film that when they all get back on the coach at the end you're like, oh yeah this was play wasn't it.....wasn't it?
Really! I've heard many people singing the part but the best Judas REALLY IS Carl Anderson! What a great loss, actually! Light and Love to his soul, wherever he is!
@@destortion93To be fair, it’s because the producers auto tuned it to death, to the frustration of JCS fans and Tim Minchin fans everywhere. I’m sure the actual production was more unpolished and less awkward…
@@kbye2321Yeah.. I wonder what's the reason for such a harsh autotune job.. The cast is filled with more than capable singers! I also loved Mel C's performance there, very intimate!
When this movie first came out I was 11 yrs old. The parents in my church wanted our pastor’s and his wife’s opinion on the movie before letting us kids watch it. They took up a collection to send them out to dinner then watch the movie. They liked it, and our whole youth group went to see it. The songs keep asking Jesus, “Who are you?”. But this is a question anyone who contemplates Jesus must answer for themselves.
Great take. I love the soundtrack. I recently introduced my 13 year old to the musical at a small local production. Afterwards we watched the film, and the Broadway version starring John Legend . JCSS really grabs a hold of you.
This was a great essay! This is a great explanation of the film in the context of the time in which it was made (the early 70's), and a modern reading of the Gospels. This essay was OUTSTANDING! Norman Jewison was able to screen the film for Pope St. Paul VI. The Pope praised the film. Ted Neely said later the Pope "openly loved" the film. The Pope said that Mary's song, "I Don't Know How to Love Him" had an "inspired beauty". Pope St. Paul VI also said, not only did he appreciate "the beautiful rock opera film"; he felt that the film would bring more people to Christianity.
You absolutely nailed it. I'm 63 years old and have seen this movie dozens and dozens and dozens of times. I have the Twin Angels tattoo. This movie resonates in my heart not so much as theological or historical but in emotion. The most beautiful moving scenes to me are Pilot's Dream, "To conquer death, you only have to die...", Simon dancing (I agree, I've never seen anyone dance harder), and Barry falling to the dark side singing "Don't let me stop your great self-destruction". Excellent review. Excellent theological interpretation. Even your title is subtly outstanding. THANK YOU. It was a blessing.
To this day whenever someone talks of any of the characters in the New Testament the first thing that comes into my head is what that character looked like and what songs they sang in JC Superstar
This was a truly enjoyable and entertaining commentary on a film that has been a mainstay of my movie favourites all my life. A thoughtful and insightful narrative which really drils down into the film's many memorable moments, themes and motifs. Thank you.
I never knew about the shepherd leading the sheep at the end. That really inspired me. And so, we become the leaders to come full circle until we will be with our True family, Holy Trinity in heaven. Well done on your perspective of this documentary, I learned so much more.
Carl Anderson was the perfect casting, that passion was beautiful an is still gorgeous to watch on screen to this day. Strikes a chord within me, was amazing. First saw it as a teen an it walloped me.
Before I hear your opinion, I want to say that the first time I saw the ending, I had the impression that Judas was shaken to the core. He wasn’t sure if they had just performed a musical or if they had somehow actually crucified Jesus. Because if they did only perform a musical, where’s the actor who played Jesus? What happened to him? But if it wasn’t only a musical, where’s the actor who played Jesus? Who was he? Where did he go? Judas can’t tell, and the bus pulls away before he can find any answers. It was eerie and it’s always stuck with me. Okay. Now I’m going to watch.
I was obsessed with this film since I was 5 years old at the time of its release. I have seen it and screened it in front of so many friends and have pretty much added the commentary as you have done in this awesome breakdown -- I just never committed it to audio/video. Great job! 👍🏻
I don't agree with all of your takes, but this was interesting. I'm not Christian, but like most of us I was brought up in a Christian society, and there's so much that people don't want to talk about. You're not supposed to ask questions. What I love the most about this movie isn't just that it asks many of the questions I had as a school kid, but that it does so earnestly and without criticism.
Great job!I agree Carl Anderson was the best.Saw the original cast live in the 90s and Carl was at the top of his game.The original cast can never be topped.
My man, this indeed is a brilliant work of art, awesome music. Loved it since I was a kid, and regarding it's interpretation, I've looked and asked around and was disappointed to see the standard offended/dismissive Catholic view on it. I never felt it to be a disrespectful or undermining work. So I'm glad I'm not the only one interpreting it in the way You did. This great video and the movie needs more views!
My father sent me this because we talk so much about jcs. I’m now a third generation lover of it and have spent hours listening and dissecting every lyric and rift. And never minded a black Judas because carl Anderson was the perfect person for Judas and race shouldn’t be part of it. And casting alone Ted Neely is the best for it and has made a lot of his career off of Jesus and if you look at his lazy eye I feel that it represents Jesus even better because Jesus was human. Not perfect and jcs even shows that. And his vocal range is unmatched. This has been long but thank you for this video and will be downloaded for future reference and if the world goes to shit I’ll have it forever
Well done. I was lucky to see Ted and carl on stage. About the protests of this movie, The Life of Brian stirred up ill will too. It wasnt even about Jesus.
I think the backlash from christians mostly came from a) Judas being the focal character, b) Tim Rice not a Christian, c) Judas being written as anything but a one-note villain (and in fact, at some times being Tim Rice's own thoughts e.g. the song Superstar), d) The human side of Jesus being emphasised, and e) no ressurection at the end. (Aside from that accidental shepherd thing). For me though, since the Bible says that Jesus was both fully human and fully God, then having a show that emphasises that side of him is an interesting perspective! (I am glad that they took out the Heal Yourselves line for this film though. That always rubbed me the wrong way.) Edit: I also appreciate them adding the extra song for Ciaphas and Annas. It makes them seem less like mustache-twirling villains and more like people who thought they were doing the right thing at first but then showing deep down that they really didn't. (As soon as Annas sings 'Stick around, you may see him bleed!', you lose whatever empathy they gained to begin with)
Whenever I think of Jesus I think of Ted, because I saw this when it was first released when I was five or six years old and then memorized every lyric of every song (I had a precocious photographic memory). I was enamored at such an impressionable age and staged scenes later in my TV production college class.
Although I can't 100% agree with it, I must say I'm appalled that such a (WONDERFUL) analysis is still necessary. People will never understand. So, so sad! Thanks.
I especially love how the production neither confirms nor denies that Christ is divine, making it accessible to all audiences and not alienating anyone.
I saw what you saw the first time I saw this, in a movie theater with my parents, minus my younger brother and sister. It was my 13th birthday and later that year I would be Confirmed in the Roman Catholic Faith. And yes, this was totally different from the stage production, as I later learned. I had so many questions at the time. I was ready to move from cotton candy Christianity (sweet fluff of nothing) to the real "flesh, blood and bones" of what it was to follow Jesus Christ. I kept the priests in my parish busy with all my questions, so glad Fathers Flynn and O'Brien never "brushed me off" with nonsense. But took my questioning seriously The 1973 Norman Jewison production is the version I like best. The others, get portions of it but not the same depth, some are "campy" and others are too atheist in tone, no respect for the transcendent. The transcendent is quite present in the 1973 version,
I’ve just watched this and I’m stunned… I first saw this when I was maybe 8 or so yrs old and didn’t get it (OK, obviously got some of the songs). I was brought up catholic so was quite baffled by it all… the tank bit with Judas, I was like “whaaaaat!” The older I have gotten, the more I’ve totally fallen in love with this movie and could probably sing along with most of it. Ted and Carl are just wonderful… did you mention how (physically) small Ted is compared to the other men in the most prominent roles? I always thought that was interesting (yeah, pure coincidence likely, but still something I noted) - physically small, but spiritually powerful Loved this video, I got the “actors putting on a play thing” quite early on, too
I think another reason to add onto why Tim and Andrew didn’t like the movie was that the audio recording weren’t the best. I have both vinyls of the movie and studio recordings and the movies audio greatly lacks the fullness of the studio versions. Not taking away any of the actors’ amazing vocals but as a musician this takes a toll on the movie (not too much though it’s still an awesome movie)
I'm not even 22 minutes into this and so far you have nailed this piece in a way I've never seen and always hoped for. What interests me most is the ibjections people had to the film. In truth, these objections make the point that the film is making,; people are more hung up on their IDEA of JC than what he lived and died for. Very post modern no? 31:00, that's what I'm talking about.
RIP CARL ANDERSON, I DIDN'T KNOW! Thankyou for the light you shed in darkness, may we honour what you left behind and God and Jesus take you in their loving arms an nurture you among your loved ones, Amen.
Just need to point out that the tanks that herded Judas in were Centurion tanks. (Technically they were Israeli Sho't tanks, which were upgraded British Centurions.)
Excellent essay. Only bone I have to pick with you is when you nonchalantly threw Dan Brown's excellently composed work of fiction based on another perfectly composed and institutionalized work of fiction. Otherwise; you're stellar
I appreciate your interpretation, but I personally believe that the humanizing of the story the last days of the Christ figure makes the story more relatable in general.
my absolute favorite movie. it is soo much more than just another bible movie. the two adversaries jesus and judas play their roles perfectly. i can only agree with your interpretation. thank you very much and greetings from switzerland ❤
The version that Webber and ugly was better is not even close. Norm Jewison was a genius and his film is more popular and better renown version. Filming it on location in Israel among the ruins was brilliant. Norm’s casting of Neeley and Anderson was the most brilliant move. I have met Neely a couple of times since he spends a lot of time with audience members that stay after the show. He told me that Norm personally chose him and Anderson. He said that he took Norm to lunch and convinced him he was the choice because up until then, Neeley wasn’t even in the running for the part. There were more seasoned actors that Norm was considering, but Neeley ultimately was the selection. No one has really topped Neeley’s performance of this role. Ian Gillan was mostly equal, IMHO. Carl Anderson wasn’t just a great singer, but his acting was unmatched by anyone. Ted and Carl were very close. They continued to play these parts in the show they took on the road. I saw them three times live and it was great, but as good as they were, they still couldn’t match the performances in the movie and I think Norman was a big reason for that. Norman was such a great director that he pulled the best performances out of these talented actors. If Norm was directing their live show, their performances would have been more dramatic. In the live show, it was more about the singing and too much melisma, as singer can tend to do. It’s like Jennifer Hudson’s performance of “I am Telling You” in the movie Dream Girls and her doing it live. She completely wrecks the song live with too much melisma and getting too screechy at times. Bill Condon directed Jennifer and kept her under control as not to over sing the song and to put more into the acting. For the movie JCSS, Norm directed the actors with an emphasis on acting and music secondary. Carl puts on such a dramatic performance and so does Ted. I have never seen them act as well in the live shows. Their concentration seems to be on the singing and that they hit out of the park, but sometimes a little too much. I am an atheist, but I love this movie because it is pure art. They didn’t dive too deeply into theism, but showed Jesus as a man. They didn’t get into miracles and theist stuff. They refer to miracles in the past, but since Rice and Webber set this in only the last week of his life, they lean heavily on the man side of Jesus, not the god side. I believe that Webber and Rice consider themselves as agnostic, which would make sense why they leaned heavily on the man side of Jesus. BTW, the lyric in Superstar is “did you mean to die like that, was that a mistake or did you know your ‘MESSY DEATH’ would be a record breaker”, not message. He is referring to Christianity being the largest religion on earth. Of course, that’s about to change as Islam grows at a rapid rate, but Christianity is still the largest religion. There are more than 30,000 different denominations of Christianity, but all religions that follow Jesus and hail him as a savior is the largest religion. Because the next lyric is; did you know your messy death would be the record breaker, referring to Buddhism and Islam, since he asked if Buddha or Muhammad were at the top with him, but his death broke all the records as far as conversions go. It’s a great film as an art form. I don’t think it can be taken too serious as a religious movie. That’s what makes it great as an art piece. Like any good art it is open to interpretation, rather than preaching or trying to present it as strict scriptural teaching. Art usually conveys a mood the artist was in while making it. Two different people can look at a painting and get two different interpretations, like is the Mona Lisa smiling and why? It doesn’t matter because it was the mood the artist was sin that speaks to us. This movie shows the drama of the situation and how a human may react. On Gesthemane, we are seeing it as a man knowing his soon to be fate. Once he admits it wasn’t his plan, but his father’s plan, he decides to go forward with it. It is an art piece that moves people. Ted played the role to perfection with his acting and singing. The pain you can feel in his voice as he screams out is very goosebumpy to the audience. I am atheist, but I wasn’t always. I was raised Catholic, going to 12 years of Catholic schools. Afterwards, I left Catholicism and joined a Protestant church, one that pushed Bible reading, something the Catholics don’t do. The priest do all the study and you just do what they say, much like the Jewish church of the first century. I am highly intelligent, so after read in a lot of Bible and seeing that even very small churches, those with less than 100 people, still have a structured hierarchy and those at the top do abuse the power they have over people. People tend to be slackers at large and are comfortable taking all questions to preachers and elders and taking everything they say as gospel. In some cases they seemed more confused than the parishioners, but never admitted it. There are many contradictions and questionable things in the Bible and those in charge just gaslight and do mental gymnastics to explain them. The truth is, they can’t be explained. You can find anything you want in the Bible because it praises and condemns the same thing, burning both ends of the candle. Thou shall not murder, but then god commands the genocide of certain people. I understand that war is war and not murder, but killing the innocent children and babies, even dashing their heads upon rocks, is considered a war crime today? What the Jews were commanded to do to their enemies were as bad as anything the Germans did in war, even Hitler. They would kill all of the children, except the virgin girls. They could be captured and kept as sex slaves. Following the god of the Old Testament would put you in prison in nearly every nation on the globe today. Then god commanded how to treat slaves. He allowed slavery as said you can beat a slave, as long as they don’t die in two days. If they die on the third day as a result of your beating, you were in the clear. Just the fact they could beat them up to the point of death is an abomination in any civilized nation. There are many other problems, like god commanding Jephthah to sacrifice the first thing that comes out of his house when he returns from battle, knowing that it would be his daughter that would come to greet him. God basically commanded a child sacrifice and Jephthah complied. Even the New Testament has as many problems, so I left just thinking it was the churches run by men that have so many problems, but the more I studied, the more I became atheist, like many other atheist I know. Christians believe that atheist don’t know god and study the Bible. When studies have been done, atheist usually score higher on biblical knowledge than do Christian. I know people who have been Christian for 60 years, but can’t quote the first scripture or know many of the stories in the Bible, like the story of Jephthah or the story of Balaam, whose donkey spoke to him. It’s not from a lack of understanding that creates most atheists. It’s too much understanding that creates an atheist. Most Christian’s just end up embarrassed when debating an atheist. Especially when the atheist are more knowledgeable than they are in the Bible.
"Will you escape in the finale reel." Dude we could talk for many an hour about this. I would seem odd if I were to try and try here. Just thank you. Finally someone I could really talk too. You get it!!! Just thank you. Take care and have fun!!! 😎😃😎
I learnt that Judas, was like a bishop on the chess board. He as it goes is the only suicide to make it to Heaven. That is a very important part of the story. He does Gods' will. P.S: I believe God knows the pain and dispare of suicides and he allows them into the Kingdom. They are broken souls. Of course God Loves them and understands their despair. He is only to bring them peace and home.
My Mom had an even better platumin blonde fro in like 1976 and she wore a thing like Ted Neely in that scene. My sister and I would run underneath her arms. In her Butterfly 🦋 outfit. It was very cool. My Mother was a very beautiful woman. It was a very special time. She looked like a movie 🌟 star but, also inshrined in my brain JC Superstar and the whole bigger pix. This movie hits me like no other movie. P.S: Dangerous Liasion. Michelle Pfeiffer and John Milavich(?), Uma Thurman, etc...also a great movie.
Excellent commentary……. I might have missed this in other’s comments, but it’ll bug me if I don’t point it out. In the song Superstar, the lyric is “did you know your MESSY DEATH would be a record breaker”, not did you know ‘your message would be a record breaker’ …. I’ve watched every performance I can get ahold of (just got the UK arena tour w Tim Minchin excellent as Judas) and have had the original soundtrack recording when it came out…..yep….I’m a boomer. My kids love this album, not positive they ever watched the film with me as young’uns, but I know for a fact they have by now. Streams everywhere! Honestly not trying to criticize in any way. But until I actually saw the lyrics written out, I wasn’t sure which one he was saying, but it is ‘messy death’. Keep up the good work, kiddo! 😊
This is my favorite adaption of this show, and I really like your interpretation of it. Have you seen the 2012 UK Arena Tour with Tim Minchin and Mel C? I personally believe from a technical theater aspect, that is the best the show has ever looked, but as you say, the show, and this film have 2 different messages. I find that idea extremely interesting and I tend to agree with you on about 95 percent of your thoughts concerning the movie. Ted Neeley and Carl Anderson are also most definitely the top OGs when it comes to playing these characters. Keep up the good work. You have a new subscriber today. 🙂
Hey, thanks so much! I appreciate it! :) Yes, I have seen the one Tim Minchin and I have to agree. It's probably the best staging and the best actors I've personally seen in the roles for a stage version. I also love the costuming and makeup choices for Mary!
Very fine analysis. And I'm an atheist. I hated going to church even once a week,, but I could watch this movie every day. Who is more interesting: Gods, or humans? Humans, every time...
Anyone who thinks the number "Superstar" is sung by Judas and not the actor is not listening to the lyrics. I would say "Could We Start Again" is also the actors, not Peter, Mary, and the rest. The story is turning grim, and the cast is asking if they could start the whole play over again. In fact, it almost seems as if the cast wanted to perform the play in the hopes they could change the story. Of course, they couldn't.
This is genuinely fantastic and deserves way more views. I'm not a believer and have only ever been exposed to the "Judas was the good guy" edgy atheist interpretation of JCS. It's absolutely wonderful to see a humble, genuine reading from a faith perspective.
Interesting, I'm not a Christian, but I grew up in a Christian household. I tend to get the feeling that Jesus died in his prime, before he could really establish his teachings. No one really knows what he really meant, sure the west has made a religion of it, but the constant fighting over basic theological questions kind of points to no one really knows what he was on about. In this play the disciples except maybe Judas didn't, and our behavior in the intervening centuries points to that too I think. I think Jesus was a good man who died for what he believed in, whether or not he came back from the dead for me is an open question.
Argh I swear at one point there was an upload on RUclips of the film with the commentary track switched on… I’m sure you’ve seen it so maybe it just slipped your mind amidst all the AMAZING notes your analysis contains. But the UK production by Gale Edwards that she developed for studio for the 2000 film you mentioned that Rice and Lloyd Webber preferred, did portray the lepers and beggars scene as a nightmare Jesus has and suddenly wakes up from with Mary comforting him. I always thought it was hilarious how fundies put JCS in the same basket as “The Last Temptation of Christ” saying it was portraying a sexual/romantic relationship between Jesus and the Magdalene for shock value. Her big number is LITERALLY about how bummed she is that Jesus has friendzoned her. 😂 Also, I’m not Christian myself but every Christian I’ve met who likes “Jesus Christ Superstar” has been a good and cool person.
Yeah, I totally forgot that! It definitely is implied to be a dream in the 2000 film. I really think that version is great on its own too! I totally agree. People always see what they want to see where Mary is concerned in this property. When they come in wanting to see her as a romantic interest, it's hard to change their minds. Thanks for your comment, friend! :)
Hi there, friend. Thanks so much! As to my religious background, I grew up Pentacostal. In my early-teen years, me and my mom became Catholic. She still is Catholic but as an adult I started attending an Anglican church, which is where I am now. My fiancee is also non-denom. So I have a lot of exposure to and respect for all the different traditions within Christianity. I'm very much a melting pot lol. It's kinda ecclectic, but that's the brief overview XD
@@TitanicHorseRacingLover Awesome! Anglican sibling in Christ! I really love every type of Anglican Communion I've been involved with. The Episcopal church is a great community. I actually prefer the 1979 Book of Common Prayer, which I think is what you guys use, right? My own Anglican church uses the 1928 ed which I'm not as fond of.
Thank you so much for this, I'm a huge fan of the 1970 concept album, the film not so much. I think I see it anew now. They wanted Ian Gillan for the role. He was on tour with Deep Purple at the time, and would only consent if the rest of the band were compensated, enter Ted Neely. I think Ian would have been fantastic in it.
In the movie, the actor who played Paul went on to become a legend in the adult entertainment industry. Because of that I do have a good laugh whenever I watch the movie
I love this film as much or more than you. I think you do a disservice to it by forcing it within the Framework of your Theory 😅 They ARE actors playing the roles, however 'their' roles change the actors forever. I believe the viewer is to see themselves as every character in this Drama and to analyze their own walk with Christ. I have felt more kinship to each character the more times Ive seen this. And its deepened my walk with God❤
Let me Clarify I appreciate your attempt, but as Judas felt about Christ, you took it too far😊 I feel they are trying a modern day retelling, and they want us to be able to relate. And they really are only Actors playing characters at times... Where they foreshadow or almost break 'The 4th Wall" so to speak. I appreciate and applaud your efforts
I appreciate your disagreement and I appreciate how pleasant you were in your response. As I said in the video, if you disagree with me, I think that's more than fair. Film can be so many things and no one interpretation of a film this densely packed with subtext and symbolism could ever explain every angle you could see it from. I did want to say though that I do still think (because of his comments in the film commentary) that Norm Jewison did intend this as at least one possible interpretation. I did say a few times in the video that some of my thoughts were a bit of a stretch, and perhaps unintended by Jewison. But I still have to say I think he intended this as one of many interpretations you could have. I really appreciate your comment though and I think your interpretation is just as valid as mine. I love these kinds of conversation about film :)
I find the movie to be mistitled. It seems to be the final days of Jesus as seen through the eyes of Judas and, thus, Judas, not Jesus is the main character.
Not really and not entirely so. It means: you have to deny everything you think you are, everything society taught you, everything revolving around power, selfishness, materialism, status, money, conventions and being judgemental in order to embrace Love and be born again in It. To die is to leave everything unimportant behind.
I love this movie....I was only 5 when it first came out and we went to see it at the movies every year and watched it whenever it was on television. I will say though the flogging and torture was too much for a young child. It was very disturbing and to this day I still cannot watch thoss scenes as well any movie that has any type of flogging I feel ill. I think Jewison is brilliant but I wish those scenes could have been less brutal. They are unwatchable for me and I wonder for how many others
I can’t possibly imagine it is lost on anyone that the premise of the movie is about a group of actors who go to Israel to portray the passion of Christ in a play.
You'd be surprised, my friend. I've spoken to several people who just kinda though "eh, it's the seventies being weird" and never put it together. I really can't blame them cause it was a very experimental time in cinema.
I was kind of thinking the same thing... it's pretty clear from the opening and ending that that's what's happening. I can understand that some people may not have picked up on it, but it's weird to hear it referred to as a theory.
I think most rational people never thought so either - as I said in the video, I certainly never did. But I'm sure you know how (in public discourse) it's the extremes of the sides that get the most publicity. Unfortunately when it came out, the side saying it mocked Christ was the side that got the most credence from the media
At the time, no. I would argue that Minchin took his place for the next generation. Damned for all time is an underrated song. Specifically the second part (Blood Money). "I dont need your BLOOD MONEY!" "That doesnt matter, our expesnses are good." "I dont WANT your BLOOD MONEY!" "Might as well take it, we think that should!" "Think of the things you can do with that money......."
I’m 75 this week. I saw the movie in 1973, 7 mos pregnant with my first child. I started crying when the music first started (and I still cry at parts !). An atheist then, atheist now, as are my children. I think the interpretation that it’s actors playing themselves playing a part is shite. One must listen to Jewishness more, and then see and hear Neeley . Teddy thinks he became christ, and still plays the part every year. Amazing voice, shit actor.❤️🇨🇦❤️
Some people literally believe that Judas wasn't fully human. There's a passage which I think is in the new English version that says something like "the man spoke lies, for he was satan" when judas wants the ointment money given to charity
I think it's important that judas first says he doesnt NEED the money He's trying to be cordial and act in line with the corrupted values of commerce that the pharisees think the Common People are all taken by. Then he rebukes them. "I don't WANT it." Which proves he still has the moral convictions that drew him to Jesus in the first place, but additionally gives the Pharisees something to play on for manipulating him. I think that's why the film has that drawn-out shot of Judas collapsing and the money being brought to him. He doesn't want this to be an exchange. He doesn't want Jesus dead. He just wanted help, but by even voicing his fears he's gone too far and shown that there's doubt among even Jesus's closest friends. They have all the excuse in the world to clamp down on this rabble-rauser just as Judas feared Rome would, and now it's too late. He's already betrayed Jesus by trying to find allies in the wrong powers, and there's no turning back. So why not take the silver?
Let me ask a question I’ve asked a lot and there is no wrong answer but I came up with the Judas paradox. Did he go to hell? He killed him self and Betrayed the son of god. But that was gods will and mission for Judas so was he sent to hell for it and killing him self?
@@deadlyred0112Jesus himself provided an answer to this paradox. I.e.: "Woe to the world because of offenses! For offenses must come, but woe to that man by whom the offense comes! (Matthew 18:7). Every evil person in history and their evil deeds are taken into account in God's plan for humankind, but the fact that God ultimately turns these evil deeds for the benefit of His plan does not exonerate them. Judas put himself in hell, not by his betrayal, but by denying God's ability to forgive him, by rejection of God's love, by being ultimately selfish. This was not the God's punishment for his sins, this was his own choice.
WHAT BOOK IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT? ANGEL CLAYVENTS?????? YOU MUST GIVE YOUR SOURCES IN A VERY CLEAR MANNER. PLEASE, DO ANSWER THIS QUESTION.THANK YOU VERY MUCH.GREAT ANALYSIS, BY THE WAY. RATHER BRILLIANT, ACTUALLY, AND AS A MATTER OF FACT!!!!!
"The Truth and Beauty" by Andrew Klavan. It wasn't really a source though, or I would've cited it. Just a book I thought kinda connected to the theory. But thank you! I appreciate that you liked it :)
As the director and crew stated, the shepherd was not supposed to be there. It was a long shot (had to be in order for the proper sun/cross ratio) and was supposed to have no one in it. There were soldiers and crew tasked with keeping the entire area clear. Then this bedouin shepherd appears from nowhere. When they saw it in post production, someone said, "We have to shoot it again." But Jewison said to keep it. In a recent interview, Ted Neely said there were so many elements of this film that came together that were like a gift. One of them was that shepherd. In the documentary, Superstars, the director said this was the most mystical moment in the film. To this day Jewison does not know who that was.
This is one of my very favorite movies of all time. I'm not into musicals but love this movie. I grew up with JC Superstar, Woodstock, Elton John, and Rod Stewart's 1st solo album. Someone who gets this movie, it is very misunderstood. It has been much maligned but, I love it. Judas, Carl Anderson, hit it out of the park. He is the VERY best. He just hit it out of the park. I like that you can see how everyone pulling him/Jesus this way and that. Everyone has an idea of their Messiah, and what he should do. I was doubtful about clicking this. Thanks. Someone else that gets it. Thanks. Take care and have fun!!! 😎😃😎
To use a contemporary example, the multi-year/season series The Chosen; the director uses the term "Red Sea Moments."
It is when the director (and/or anyone else) had NO CONTROL, "someone else" added to it.
Watching the interviews with the principle cast and crew of JCS (1973) there were many of those moments back in 1972.
It has been many years since I saw this movie, and I happen to stumble across it on Amazon Prime over last weekend. Of course I had to watch it. In fact I watched it back to back 3 times, and a few more times during this past week. I graduated high school in 1972, and one of my teachers knew that I loved the music, and he bought me the Jesus Christ Superstar album as a graduation gift. I played that album many, many many times over the years. Since computers weren't even invented yet, I was in the dark about any information concerning the movie. I only knew of it as being a rock opera, stage play, Years later I rented the movie from a Blockbuster, and that was my first time experiencing this amazing film. The other night I watched the Superstars Documentary, and that's when I learned about the image of a shepherd crossing at the bottom of the screen, at the end of the film, and of course, I had to watch the movie again, and sure enough, I saw him. I never noticed him before, and I have to say, that it gave me chills. I absolutely love Jesus Christ Superstar. It's an iconic film, and the music will never get old.
@@1991ROLEX I LOVE The Chosen, and watch it just about constantly. I was also thrilled to find the movie, Jesus Christ Superstar, on Amazon Prime this part weekend. I've watched it about 5 times already. I just love it.
I have seen this movie many times since I was 12 years old. 50, maybe 100 times. It really doesn't matter. I am 60 years old now. What matters is that I have never been able to put into words, what it is, what this film does to me, and why I can never get enough of this 1973 JCS film. I feel this film is a part of my existence. Even I would have been another person if this film had not been made. Jokingly, I once wrote on a JCS Facebook page that I am addicted to this movie. An addiction that I cherish.
I just finished listening to and watching your video. I divided that over two days, and at the very end I got emotional. But man, I am so happy with this review from you. English is not my 1st language, so I will definitely listen to this video more often to try to understand your vision even better. With this, I hope to have come a little closer to where my "obsession" with this film comes from. Yes, definitely for me the best film ever made.
With your comments in mind, I will see the film many times over. Thank you very much! And God bless you!!
Perfectly said, Im coming 61 this year and feel exactly the same as you. I seem to get into the JCS vibe every year around this time, still love it to this day. :)
Carl Anderson's performance is just out of control! His talent is so passionate, powerful and unmatched. No one could ever fill his shoes. I met him when I was 8 after a JCSS stage performance and it was magical.
Barry Dennen reacting in fear after looking into Ted Neeley’s eyes is about my favorite moment in screen acting ever. Not kidding.
As a Gen Xer raised by Boomer/hippie parents, I was exposed to JCS through my parents - my parents weren’t at all religious but played the JCS music all day in the summers of my youth. My mother sang “I don’t know how to love him” and “everything’s alright” all the time as she wandered through our house or with us at the beach or preparing dinner or painting…I always felt most connected with JC through this music and through the film, which I love on their own but also for the memories. JCS and Watership Down (book and film) taught me about myth and spirituality and religion in the most beautiful ways, and they did so more profoundly than anything I was taught at religious schools or churches.
Best Jesus film of them all.
Having an amazing, ready-made soundtrack before they even started casting helped a lot.
But so much of this film stands on its own as original and cinematic genius.
I may be an atheist, but this is one of my favorite films of all time.
Fellow atheist here- and also rate this in my own personal Top 10- juat phenomenal musically. Totally overcomes the illogic and just plain silliness of the . Jesus "saga." One viewing of this films more inspiring than a thousand church services.
Thank you for this. Your homage of Carl Anderson and his talent teared me up.
THIS was absolutely OUTSTANDING! Part homily, sermon, and dissertation-- this is you at your BEST. I'm proud you shed expectations, and are now free to do you. I have been waiting for something like this. Jesus Christ Superstar is one of my favorites, and you gave it such a depth that I sat here watching this LIKE I WAS IN CHURCH! If ever you set up Patron services, please count me in!
I can't say how much I appreciate your encouragement :) It really means the world to me to know that you enjoyed it so much. Thank you for your comment, it really made my day :)
@@ramblingdirector446 I have never seen anything from your account and I am with Mr. @Stevenr540. You should start a Patreo. I'm in also. I am an Episcopalian and you explained why I LOVE this film. Lots of people pound on this film because it's not Biblical. Um, it wasn't supposed to be. Like you said, these are young actors playing these parts. I loved the end of this, when at first, Judas wants answers and now, he is asking questions. I thought that was a very astute observation by you. Like you said, HE helped kill the truth. I subscribed.
@@TitanicHorseRacingLover Thank you so much for your comment! I actually do have Patreon I link in the description for most of my videos! I don't advertise it alot in my videos but it's there :) I am so glad you enjoyed the video and I'm happy to have you subscribed and onboard as we go forward :)
Rather than "rambling" I found a direct hit on the reasons I have kept coming back to JCS over the years. Yes, the music is incredible, the performances are impressive, and at 66 years old the relaxed, free-spirited vibe of the 70s staging feels like home. But what you've done is put into words why the album and then this movie informed and adjusted my relationship to Jesus, Christianity, and God. I discovered this movie when I was still a fundamentalist and yet disappointed in the message of judgemental-ism rather than love, struggle, and forgiveness. My landing in a place of "open exploration" toward Jesus ended up ending my relationship with my family and it took a couple of decades before two of my seven siblings have reconnected with me and one of those is very strained. A few years before my mother died (2 years ago) she asked me to "make my life right" with God. I replied that my God and I are fine. Your analysis has given me some words that I might use to begin to explain my journey to siblings. Thank you. BTW, I found this because I"m planning on seeing a performance of this in Amsterdam in Feb '24 at De La Mar.
Great video and analysis. By the way, I recently watched a documentary where Norman Jewison talked about how the shepherd (and sheep) at the end of the film was an actual local shepherd who happened to walk through the shot as they were filming. Rather than redo the shot Jewison decided to keep it in.
I can’t wait to hear your commentary. Since I was in grade school I’ve been very familiar with the soundtrack as it was a favorite of my father’s.
I did a paper on it in high school. When I took on the project I planned to criticize the many Scriptural and theological errors throughout the heretical rock opera. But by the end, I came to love it.
My dad (an American Baptist minister, who immersed me when I was 8) helped me to see its genius. He rightly describes it as the Gospel of Judas.
JCS was the only one, out of both parents and dozens of SS teachers, who effectively taught me that while Jesus was/is 100% God, He was also 100% human.
“I Only Want to Say”fundamentally changed my own theology about Christ’s sacrifice. He didn’t do it easily because He was God. He did it IN SPITE of the abject fear of the impending terror and excruciating agony out of love for mankind and for me.
No greater love…
I can’t play it now lying next to my sleeping husband. But first thing in the morning…
First, this is an excellent and thoughtful analysis. Thanks for this!
When I was a child I saw this movie when it first came out, and dozens of times since. I also see it as being clear that these are actors. At the time, there was a tv show called "Story Theatre" where an ensemble cast of.. well, hippies basically lol ... would act out stories with dramatic effect, recite the stage directions, and sometimes mime the props. This had the same feel for me; a film about a cast putting on a play to tell a story. They perform knowing we are watching them. In the end, some realise that God is also watching them. Maybe they're afraid at the end: Did they do anything wrong here? What just happened?
That said, Carl Anderson absolutely had a gift with that voice. The strength and emotion and technical ability, top tier.
Oh this is brilliant. Finally I have met another person who believes in what I thought about this movie. My mum took me to see it when it first came out, and I have watched it every year of my life since, and I am 59. from that day, I knew this was the truth, and I understood without knowing that it was the greatest interpretation of Jesus every made in film. The artists that wrote the movie were just an instrument in a folding story of his story being told. Andrew was needed to write absolutely brilliant stirring music, and the singers and actors, every one of them is perfect. It took Norman to be the final touch. HIs heart made that movie. Thank you, may I call you a friend. As this Theology you made is brilliant. I will share it on my FB Thank you so much
Excellent statement. But the lyrics move me as much as the music. Don't forget Tim Rice. 👍
@@whiptech The music brings the lyrics to life and propels the lyrics, exalting them to a higher level. But yes, the lyrics stuck with me as a young child and to this day. I memorized the entire album/lyrics.
I agree with the "it's a play" concept, what is clever is they make no illusions about this from the start, however you get so sucked in to this film that when they all get back on the coach at the end you're like, oh yeah this was play wasn't it.....wasn't it?
Really! I've heard many people singing the part but the best Judas REALLY IS Carl Anderson!
What a great loss, actually!
Light and Love to his soul, wherever he is!
Tim Minchin. Worth a listen❤️🇨🇦❤️
Naah. I love Tim Minchin, and I like his rendition of Judas, but his singing is so polished and lifeless compared to Carl's!
@@destortion93To be fair, it’s because the producers auto tuned it to death, to the frustration of JCS fans and Tim Minchin fans everywhere. I’m sure the actual production was more unpolished and less awkward…
@@kbye2321Yeah.. I wonder what's the reason for such a harsh autotune job.. The cast is filled with more than capable singers!
I also loved Mel C's performance there, very intimate!
The leper scene scared the bejeezus (or "be-jesus") out of a 5-year-old me.
When this movie first came out I was 11 yrs old. The parents in my church wanted our pastor’s and his wife’s opinion on the movie before letting us kids watch it. They took up a collection to send them out to dinner then watch the movie. They liked it, and our whole youth group went to see it. The songs keep asking Jesus, “Who are you?”. But this is a question anyone who contemplates Jesus must answer for themselves.
Great take. I love the soundtrack. I recently introduced my 13 year old to the musical at a small local production. Afterwards we watched the film, and the Broadway version starring John Legend . JCSS really grabs a hold of you.
This was a great essay! This is a great explanation of the film in the context of the time in which it was made (the early 70's), and a modern reading of the Gospels. This essay was OUTSTANDING! Norman Jewison was able to screen the film for Pope St. Paul VI. The Pope praised the film. Ted Neely said later the Pope "openly loved" the film. The Pope said that Mary's song, "I Don't Know How to Love Him" had an "inspired beauty". Pope St. Paul VI also said, not only did he appreciate "the beautiful rock opera film"; he felt that the film would bring more people to Christianity.
Surprising.
You absolutely nailed it. I'm 63 years old and have seen this movie dozens and dozens and dozens of times. I have the Twin Angels tattoo. This movie resonates in my heart not so much as theological or historical but in emotion. The most beautiful moving scenes to me are Pilot's Dream, "To conquer death, you only have to die...", Simon dancing (I agree, I've never seen anyone dance harder), and Barry falling to the dark side singing "Don't let me stop your great self-destruction". Excellent review. Excellent theological interpretation. Even your title is subtly outstanding. THANK YOU. It was a blessing.
Saw this as a kid and Caiaphas/Annas always creeped me out and STILL do. At the time they gave me nightmares...
To this day whenever someone talks of any of the characters in the New Testament the first thing that comes into my head is what that character looked like and what songs they sang in JC Superstar
This was a truly enjoyable and entertaining commentary on a film that has been a mainstay of my movie favourites all my life. A thoughtful and insightful narrative which really drils down into the film's many memorable moments, themes and motifs. Thank you.
I never knew about the shepherd leading the sheep at the end. That really inspired me. And so, we become the leaders to come full circle until we will be with our True family, Holy Trinity in heaven. Well done on your perspective of this documentary, I learned so much more.
Casting Carl Anderson was the best decision phenomenal!
Amazing interpretation. Especially the ending.
Carl Anderson was the perfect casting, that passion was beautiful an is still gorgeous to watch on screen to this day.
Strikes a chord within me, was amazing. First saw it as a teen an it walloped me.
Before I hear your opinion, I want to say that the first time I saw the ending, I had the impression that Judas was shaken to the core. He wasn’t sure if they had just performed a musical or if they had somehow actually crucified Jesus. Because if they did only perform a musical, where’s the actor who played Jesus? What happened to him? But if it wasn’t only a musical, where’s the actor who played Jesus? Who was he? Where did he go? Judas can’t tell, and the bus pulls away before he can find any answers. It was eerie and it’s always stuck with me. Okay. Now I’m going to watch.
I was obsessed with this film since I was 5 years old at the time of its release. I have seen it and screened it in front of so many friends and have pretty much added the commentary as you have done in this awesome breakdown -- I just never committed it to audio/video. Great job! 👍🏻
I've always viewed this film the way you have, but could never put it in words so profoundly. Very nice job.
I don't agree with all of your takes, but this was interesting. I'm not Christian, but like most of us I was brought up in a Christian society, and there's so much that people don't want to talk about. You're not supposed to ask questions. What I love the most about this movie isn't just that it asks many of the questions I had as a school kid, but that it does so earnestly and without criticism.
Great job!I agree Carl Anderson was the best.Saw the original cast live in the 90s and Carl was at the top of his game.The original cast can never be topped.
My man, this indeed is a brilliant work of art, awesome music. Loved it since I was a kid, and regarding it's interpretation, I've looked and asked around and was disappointed to see the standard offended/dismissive Catholic view on it. I never felt it to be a disrespectful or undermining work. So I'm glad I'm not the only one interpreting it in the way You did. This great video and the movie needs more views!
Thanks for the commentary. I wanted to watch again.
Saw this in the theater when I was 6, and I have loved it since. Love you views on the movie
I liked the idea of JCS was asking questions. It is one of my favorite movie and music.
My father sent me this because we talk so much about jcs. I’m now a third generation lover of it and have spent hours listening and dissecting every lyric and rift. And never minded a black Judas because carl Anderson was the perfect person for Judas and race shouldn’t be part of it. And casting alone Ted Neely is the best for it and has made a lot of his career off of Jesus and if you look at his lazy eye I feel that it represents Jesus even better because Jesus was human. Not perfect and jcs even shows that. And his vocal range is unmatched. This has been long but thank you for this video and will be downloaded for future reference and if the world goes to shit I’ll have it forever
Thanks, friend! I appreciate your encouragement! And it's always nice to meet a fellow third gen fan of this show!
Well done. I was lucky to see Ted and carl on stage.
About the protests of this movie, The Life of Brian stirred up ill will too. It wasnt even about Jesus.
I think the backlash from christians mostly came from a) Judas being the focal character,
b) Tim Rice not a Christian,
c) Judas being written as anything but a one-note villain (and in fact, at some times being Tim Rice's own thoughts e.g. the song Superstar),
d) The human side of Jesus being emphasised, and
e) no ressurection at the end. (Aside from that accidental shepherd thing).
For me though, since the Bible says that Jesus was both fully human and fully God, then having a show that emphasises that side of him is an interesting perspective!
(I am glad that they took out the Heal Yourselves line for this film though. That always rubbed me the wrong way.)
Edit: I also appreciate them adding the extra song for Ciaphas and Annas. It makes them seem less like mustache-twirling villains and more like people who thought they were doing the right thing at first but then showing deep down that they really didn't. (As soon as Annas sings 'Stick around, you may see him bleed!', you lose whatever empathy they gained to begin with)
Whenever I think of Jesus I think of Ted, because I saw this when it was first released when I was five or six years old and then memorized every lyric of every song (I had a precocious photographic memory). I was enamored at such an impressionable age and staged scenes later in my TV production college class.
Although I can't 100% agree with it, I must say I'm appalled that such a (WONDERFUL) analysis is still necessary. People will never understand. So, so sad! Thanks.
I especially love how the production neither confirms nor denies that Christ is divine, making it accessible to all audiences and not alienating anyone.
I saw what you saw the first time I saw this, in a movie theater with my parents, minus my younger brother and sister. It was my 13th birthday and later that year I would be Confirmed in the Roman Catholic Faith. And yes, this was totally different from the stage production, as I later learned.
I had so many questions at the time. I was ready to move from cotton candy Christianity (sweet fluff of nothing) to the real "flesh, blood and bones" of what it was to follow Jesus Christ.
I kept the priests in my parish busy with all my questions, so glad Fathers Flynn and O'Brien never "brushed me off" with nonsense. But took my questioning seriously
The 1973 Norman Jewison production is the version I like best. The others, get portions of it but not the same depth, some are "campy" and others are too atheist in tone, no respect for the transcendent. The transcendent is quite present in the 1973 version,
I’ve just watched this and I’m stunned… I first saw this when I was maybe 8 or so yrs old and didn’t get it (OK, obviously got some of the songs). I was brought up catholic so was quite baffled by it all… the tank bit with Judas, I was like “whaaaaat!” The older I have gotten, the more I’ve totally fallen in love with this movie and could probably sing along with most of it. Ted and Carl are just wonderful… did you mention how (physically) small Ted is compared to the other men in the most prominent roles? I always thought that was interesting (yeah, pure coincidence likely, but still something I noted) - physically small, but spiritually powerful
Loved this video, I got the “actors putting on a play thing” quite early on, too
I think another reason to add onto why Tim and Andrew didn’t like the movie was that the audio recording weren’t the best. I have both vinyls of the movie and studio recordings and the movies audio greatly lacks the fullness of the studio versions. Not taking away any of the actors’ amazing vocals but as a musician this takes a toll on the movie (not too much though it’s still an awesome movie)
Great job about my favorite musical!
I'm not even 22 minutes into this and so far you have nailed this piece in a way I've never seen and always hoped for. What interests me most is the ibjections people had to the film. In truth, these objections make the point that the film is making,; people are more hung up on their IDEA of JC than what he lived and died for. Very post modern no?
31:00, that's what I'm talking about.
Thank you very much for your wonderful analysis, you have revealed the depth of this brilliant film!!
Thank you. Loved it. Good job ❤
RIP CARL ANDERSON, I DIDN'T KNOW! Thankyou for the light you shed in darkness, may we honour what you left behind and God and Jesus take you in their loving arms an nurture you among your loved ones, Amen.
Just need to point out that the tanks that herded Judas in were Centurion tanks. (Technically they were Israeli Sho't tanks, which were upgraded British Centurions.)
Excellent essay. Only bone I have to pick with you is when you nonchalantly threw Dan Brown's excellently composed work of fiction based on another perfectly composed and institutionalized work of fiction.
Otherwise; you're stellar
Absolutely brilliant ! I always loved the music and never understood the film now I do.
I appreciate your interpretation, but I personally believe that the humanizing of the story the last days of the Christ figure makes the story more relatable in general.
my absolute favorite movie. it is soo much more than just another bible movie. the two adversaries jesus and judas play their roles perfectly. i can only agree with your interpretation. thank you very much and greetings from switzerland ❤
The version that Webber and ugly was better is not even close. Norm Jewison was a genius and his film is more popular and better renown version. Filming it on location in Israel among the ruins was brilliant. Norm’s casting of Neeley and Anderson was the most brilliant move. I have met Neely a couple of times since he spends a lot of time with audience members that stay after the show.
He told me that Norm personally chose him and Anderson. He said that he took Norm to lunch and convinced him he was the choice because up until then, Neeley wasn’t even in the running for the part. There were more seasoned actors that Norm was considering, but Neeley ultimately was the selection. No one has really topped Neeley’s performance of this role. Ian Gillan was mostly equal, IMHO.
Carl Anderson wasn’t just a great singer, but his acting was unmatched by anyone. Ted and Carl were very close. They continued to play these parts in the show they took on the road. I saw them three times live and it was great, but as good as they were, they still couldn’t match the performances in the movie and I think Norman was a big reason for that. Norman was such a great director that he pulled the best performances out of these talented actors. If Norm was directing their live show, their performances would have been more dramatic.
In the live show, it was more about the singing and too much melisma, as singer can tend to do. It’s like Jennifer Hudson’s performance of “I am Telling You” in the movie Dream Girls and her doing it live. She completely wrecks the song live with too much melisma and getting too screechy at times. Bill Condon directed Jennifer and kept her under control as not to over sing the song and to put more into the acting.
For the movie JCSS, Norm directed the actors with an emphasis on acting and music secondary. Carl puts on such a dramatic performance and so does Ted. I have never seen them act as well in the live shows. Their concentration seems to be on the singing and that they hit out of the park, but sometimes a little too much.
I am an atheist, but I love this movie because it is pure art. They didn’t dive too deeply into theism, but showed Jesus as a man. They didn’t get into miracles and theist stuff. They refer to miracles in the past, but since Rice and Webber set this in only the last week of his life, they lean heavily on the man side of Jesus, not the god side. I believe that Webber and Rice consider themselves as agnostic, which would make sense why they leaned heavily on the man side of Jesus.
BTW, the lyric in Superstar is “did you mean to die like that, was that a mistake or did you know your ‘MESSY DEATH’ would be a record breaker”, not message. He is referring to Christianity being the largest religion on earth. Of course, that’s about to change as Islam grows at a rapid rate, but Christianity is still the largest religion. There are more than 30,000 different denominations of Christianity, but all religions that follow Jesus and hail him as a savior is the largest religion.
Because the next lyric is; did you know your messy death would be the record breaker, referring to Buddhism and Islam, since he asked if Buddha or Muhammad were at the top with him, but his death broke all the records as far as conversions go. It’s a great film as an art form. I don’t think it can be taken too serious as a religious movie. That’s what makes it great as an art piece. Like any good art it is open to interpretation, rather than preaching or trying to present it as strict scriptural teaching. Art usually conveys a mood the artist was in while making it. Two different people can look at a painting and get two different interpretations, like is the Mona Lisa smiling and why?
It doesn’t matter because it was the mood the artist was sin that speaks to us. This movie shows the drama of the situation and how a human may react. On Gesthemane, we are seeing it as a man knowing his soon to be fate. Once he admits it wasn’t his plan, but his father’s plan, he decides to go forward with it. It is an art piece that moves people. Ted played the role to perfection with his acting and singing. The pain you can feel in his voice as he screams out is very goosebumpy to the audience.
I am atheist, but I wasn’t always. I was raised Catholic, going to 12 years of Catholic schools. Afterwards, I left Catholicism and joined a Protestant church, one that pushed Bible reading, something the Catholics don’t do. The priest do all the study and you just do what they say, much like the Jewish church of the first century. I am highly intelligent, so after read in a lot of Bible and seeing that even very small churches, those with less than 100 people, still have a structured hierarchy and those at the top do abuse the power they have over people.
People tend to be slackers at large and are comfortable taking all questions to preachers and elders and taking everything they say as gospel. In some cases they seemed more confused than the parishioners, but never admitted it. There are many contradictions and questionable things in the Bible and those in charge just gaslight and do mental gymnastics to explain them. The truth is, they can’t be explained. You can find anything you want in the Bible because it praises and condemns the same thing, burning both ends of the candle.
Thou shall not murder, but then god commands the genocide of certain people. I understand that war is war and not murder, but killing the innocent children and babies, even dashing their heads upon rocks, is considered a war crime today? What the Jews were commanded to do to their enemies were as bad as anything the Germans did in war, even Hitler. They would kill all of the children, except the virgin girls. They could be captured and kept as sex slaves. Following the god of the Old Testament would put you in prison in nearly every nation on the globe today.
Then god commanded how to treat slaves. He allowed slavery as said you can beat a slave, as long as they don’t die in two days. If they die on the third day as a result of your beating, you were in the clear. Just the fact they could beat them up to the point of death is an abomination in any civilized nation. There are many other problems, like god commanding Jephthah to sacrifice the first thing that comes out of his house when he returns from battle, knowing that it would be his daughter that would come to greet him. God basically commanded a child sacrifice and Jephthah complied.
Even the New Testament has as many problems, so I left just thinking it was the churches run by men that have so many problems, but the more I studied, the more I became atheist, like many other atheist I know. Christians believe that atheist don’t know god and study the Bible. When studies have been done, atheist usually score higher on biblical knowledge than do Christian. I know people who have been Christian for 60 years, but can’t quote the first scripture or know many of the stories in the Bible, like the story of Jephthah or the story of Balaam, whose donkey spoke to him.
It’s not from a lack of understanding that creates most atheists. It’s too much understanding that creates an atheist. Most Christian’s just end up embarrassed when debating an atheist. Especially when the atheist are more knowledgeable than they are in the Bible.
"Will you escape in the finale reel." Dude we could talk for many an hour about this. I would seem odd if I were to try and try here. Just thank you. Finally someone I could really talk too. You get it!!! Just thank you. Take care and have fun!!! 😎😃😎
I've always felt such alone wolf 🐺 about this movie my whole life. To find someone that gets it, is such a wow moment for me. Sorry. Just cool. 🇨🇦
I learnt that Judas, was like a bishop on the chess board. He as it goes is the only suicide to make it to Heaven. That is a very important part of the story. He does Gods' will.
P.S: I believe God knows the pain and dispare of suicides and he allows them into the Kingdom. They are broken souls. Of course God Loves them and understands their despair. He is only to bring them peace and home.
My Mom had an even better platumin blonde fro in like 1976 and she wore a thing like Ted Neely in that scene. My sister and I would run underneath her arms. In her Butterfly 🦋 outfit. It was very cool. My Mother was a very beautiful woman. It was a very special time. She looked like a movie 🌟 star but, also inshrined in my brain JC Superstar and the whole bigger pix. This movie hits me like no other movie.
P.S: Dangerous Liasion. Michelle Pfeiffer and John Milavich(?), Uma Thurman, etc...also a great movie.
Excellent commentary……. I might have missed this in other’s comments, but it’ll bug me if I don’t point it out.
In the song Superstar, the lyric is “did you know your MESSY DEATH would be a record breaker”, not did you know ‘your message would be a record breaker’ …. I’ve watched every performance I can get ahold of (just got the UK arena tour w Tim Minchin excellent as Judas) and have had the original soundtrack recording when it came out…..yep….I’m a boomer. My kids love this album, not positive they ever watched the film with me as young’uns, but I know for a fact they have by now. Streams everywhere! Honestly not trying to criticize in any way. But until I actually saw the lyrics written out, I wasn’t sure which one he was saying, but it is ‘messy death’.
Keep up the good work, kiddo! 😊
This is my favorite adaption of this show, and I really like your interpretation of it. Have you seen the 2012 UK Arena Tour with Tim Minchin and Mel C? I personally believe from a technical theater aspect, that is the best the show has ever looked, but as you say, the show, and this film have 2 different messages. I find that idea extremely interesting and I tend to agree with you on about 95 percent of your thoughts concerning the movie. Ted Neeley and Carl Anderson are also most definitely the top OGs when it comes to playing these characters.
Keep up the good work. You have a new subscriber today. 🙂
Hey, thanks so much! I appreciate it! :) Yes, I have seen the one Tim Minchin and I have to agree. It's probably the best staging and the best actors I've personally seen in the roles for a stage version. I also love the costuming and makeup choices for Mary!
Very fine analysis. And I'm an atheist. I hated going to church even once a week,, but I could watch this movie every day. Who is more interesting: Gods, or humans? Humans, every time...
Anyone who thinks the number "Superstar" is sung by Judas and not the actor is not listening to the lyrics. I would say "Could We Start Again" is also the actors, not Peter, Mary, and the rest. The story is turning grim, and the cast is asking if they could start the whole play over again. In fact, it almost seems as if the cast wanted to perform the play in the hopes they could change the story. Of course, they couldn't.
This is genuinely fantastic and deserves way more views. I'm not a believer and have only ever been exposed to the "Judas was the good guy" edgy atheist interpretation of JCS. It's absolutely wonderful to see a humble, genuine reading from a faith perspective.
Thanks so much! I really appreciate that and I'm glad you enjoyed it! :)
Oh heck yes! Excited to hear your thoughts on this one!!
So far so good!
Love the play within a movie interpretation. I see it!
Did you like Godspell? Or Jesus of Montreal?
I like your interpretation. Totally see it
I always liked the film and I like your interpretation of it.
Interesting, I'm not a Christian, but I grew up in a Christian household. I tend to get the feeling that Jesus died in his prime, before he could really establish his teachings. No one really knows what he really meant, sure the west has made a religion of it, but the constant fighting over basic theological questions kind of points to no one really knows what he was on about. In this play the disciples except maybe Judas didn't, and our behavior in the intervening centuries points to that too I think. I think Jesus was a good man who died for what he believed in, whether or not he came back from the dead for me is an open question.
Great review
Argh I swear at one point there was an upload on RUclips of the film with the commentary track switched on…
I’m sure you’ve seen it so maybe it just slipped your mind amidst all the AMAZING notes your analysis contains. But the UK production by Gale Edwards that she developed for studio for the 2000 film you mentioned that Rice and Lloyd Webber preferred, did portray the lepers and beggars scene as a nightmare Jesus has and suddenly wakes up from with Mary comforting him.
I always thought it was hilarious how fundies put JCS in the same basket as “The Last Temptation of Christ” saying it was portraying a sexual/romantic relationship between Jesus and the Magdalene for shock value. Her big number is LITERALLY about how bummed she is that Jesus has friendzoned her. 😂
Also, I’m not Christian myself but every Christian I’ve met who likes “Jesus Christ Superstar” has been a good and cool person.
Yeah, I totally forgot that! It definitely is implied to be a dream in the 2000 film. I really think that version is great on its own too!
I totally agree. People always see what they want to see where Mary is concerned in this property. When they come in wanting to see her as a romantic interest, it's hard to change their minds.
Thanks for your comment, friend! :)
Very, very insightful.
Wow, just wow, great job.
I would love to know what is your religios background
Hi there, friend. Thanks so much! As to my religious background, I grew up Pentacostal. In my early-teen years, me and my mom became Catholic. She still is Catholic but as an adult I started attending an Anglican church, which is where I am now. My fiancee is also non-denom. So I have a lot of exposure to and respect for all the different traditions within Christianity. I'm very much a melting pot lol. It's kinda ecclectic, but that's the brief overview XD
@@ramblingdirector446 Wow. As I said in my comment, I am an Episcopalian. We are considered Anglicans.
@@TitanicHorseRacingLover Awesome! Anglican sibling in Christ! I really love every type of Anglican Communion I've been involved with. The Episcopal church is a great community.
I actually prefer the 1979 Book of Common Prayer, which I think is what you guys use, right? My own Anglican church uses the 1928 ed which I'm not as fond of.
Ted Neeley played an awesome part of JCS.. Carl Anderson was marvelous as Judas. Love them both ❤❤🌹🌹
Well Judas is just us skeptics is he not? He portays the viewer/
Thank you so much for this, I'm a huge fan of the 1970 concept album, the film not so much. I think I see it anew now.
They wanted Ian Gillan for the role. He was on tour with Deep Purple at the time, and would only consent if the rest of the band were compensated, enter Ted Neely. I think Ian would have been fantastic in it.
Ted Neely has a career thanks to Ian Gillan. Otherwise, he would still be singing in a Texas dive bar
In the movie, the actor who played Paul went on to become a legend in the adult entertainment industry. Because of that I do have a good laugh whenever I watch the movie
he played Peter
@@starlightstarbright7302 Yes he did
such a awesome movie
This looks interesting, and I'm starting to watch, but that circle in the middle is making me crazy. It distracts from the images. Why is it there?
Yes! Totally agree.
I love this film as much or more than you. I think you do a disservice to it by forcing it within the Framework of your Theory 😅 They ARE actors playing the roles, however 'their' roles change the actors forever. I believe the viewer is to see themselves as every character in this Drama and to analyze their own walk with Christ. I have felt more kinship to each character the more times Ive seen this. And its deepened my walk with God❤
Let me Clarify I appreciate your attempt, but as Judas felt about Christ, you took it too far😊 I feel they are trying a modern day retelling, and they want us to be able to relate. And they really are only Actors playing characters at times... Where they foreshadow or almost break 'The 4th Wall" so to speak. I appreciate and applaud your efforts
I appreciate your disagreement and I appreciate how pleasant you were in your response. As I said in the video, if you disagree with me, I think that's more than fair. Film can be so many things and no one interpretation of a film this densely packed with subtext and symbolism could ever explain every angle you could see it from.
I did want to say though that I do still think (because of his comments in the film commentary) that Norm Jewison did intend this as at least one possible interpretation. I did say a few times in the video that some of my thoughts were a bit of a stretch, and perhaps unintended by Jewison. But I still have to say I think he intended this as one of many interpretations you could have.
I really appreciate your comment though and I think your interpretation is just as valid as mine. I love these kinds of conversation about film :)
Thx. 7,623 views Mar 17, 2023 #jesuschristsuperstar #musical #filmanalysis
Mary was not a prostitute. Most Jewish women in 1BC were named Mary or Sarah.
Yes, you're right, that's a silly notion that became so popular people believe it's real.
Ted never lost that enlightenment, by the way.
I mean, I have a transcript of the commentary if you'd like it.
May I have a copy?
Thanks
@@marcobagnoli5406 I came here last night and tried to post a link to it, but it would seem RUclips has scrubbed the link. Sigh...
@@GibsonDelGiudice write the link with a blank between every letter, should work. Looking forward to hearing from You. Marco
Interesting thesis. Of course the premise of "Godspell" is/was just that actors portraying Jesus & the disciples
I find the movie to be mistitled. It seems to be the final days of Jesus as seen through the eyes of Judas and, thus, Judas, not Jesus is the main character.
That was Ted Neeley's actual tour bus.
"JCS" is as much about the counterculture and youth of the 1960's and early 1970's as it is a story of the last week of Jesus's life.
I’d really to watch your video, but it’s very difficult with this sound ring.
Movie was great.
This is my favorite movie 🙃
"You only have to die" could mean being born again.
Not really and not entirely so. It means: you have to deny everything you think you are, everything society taught you, everything revolving around power, selfishness, materialism, status, money, conventions and being judgemental in order to embrace Love and be born again in It. To die is to leave everything unimportant behind.
I love this movie....I was only 5 when it first came out and we went to see it at the movies every year and watched it whenever it was on television.
I will say though the flogging and torture was too much for a young child. It was very disturbing and to this day I still cannot watch thoss scenes as well any movie that has any type of flogging I feel ill. I think Jewison is brilliant but I wish those scenes could have been less brutal. They are unwatchable for me and I wonder for how many others
I can’t possibly imagine it is lost on anyone that the premise of the movie is about a group of actors who go to Israel to portray the passion of Christ in a play.
You'd be surprised, my friend. I've spoken to several people who just kinda though "eh, it's the seventies being weird" and never put it together. I really can't blame them cause it was a very experimental time in cinema.
I was kind of thinking the same thing... it's pretty clear from the opening and ending that that's what's happening. I can understand that some people may not have picked up on it, but it's weird to hear it referred to as a theory.
I never thought that this musical wants to mock Jesus or Christianity...
I think most rational people never thought so either - as I said in the video, I certainly never did. But I'm sure you know how (in public discourse) it's the extremes of the sides that get the most publicity. Unfortunately when it came out, the side saying it mocked Christ was the side that got the most credence from the media
At the time, no. I would argue that Minchin took his place for the next generation.
Damned for all time is an underrated song. Specifically the second part (Blood Money). "I dont need your BLOOD MONEY!" "That doesnt matter, our expesnses are good." "I dont WANT your BLOOD MONEY!" "Might as well take it, we think that should!" "Think of the things you can do with that money......."
I’m 75 this week. I saw the movie in 1973, 7 mos pregnant with my first child. I started crying when the music first started (and I still cry at parts !). An atheist then, atheist now, as are my children. I think the interpretation that it’s actors playing themselves playing a part is shite. One must listen to Jewishness more, and then see and hear Neeley . Teddy thinks he became christ, and still plays the part every year. Amazing voice, shit actor.❤️🇨🇦❤️
Some people literally believe that Judas wasn't fully human. There's a passage which I think is in the new English version that says something like "the man spoke lies, for he was satan" when judas wants the ointment money given to charity
I think it's important that judas first says he doesnt NEED the money
He's trying to be cordial and act in line with the corrupted values of commerce that the pharisees think the Common People are all taken by. Then he rebukes them. "I don't WANT it." Which proves he still has the moral convictions that drew him to Jesus in the first place, but additionally gives the Pharisees something to play on for manipulating him.
I think that's why the film has that drawn-out shot of Judas collapsing and the money being brought to him.
He doesn't want this to be an exchange. He doesn't want Jesus dead. He just wanted help, but by even voicing his fears he's gone too far and shown that there's doubt among even Jesus's closest friends. They have all the excuse in the world to clamp down on this rabble-rauser just as Judas feared Rome would, and now it's too late. He's already betrayed Jesus by trying to find allies in the wrong powers, and there's no turning back. So why not take the silver?
I feel like you've really missed the basics of deconstruction but nonetheless loved the essay
Let me ask a question I’ve asked a lot and there is no wrong answer but I came up with the Judas paradox. Did he go to hell? He killed him self and Betrayed the son of god. But that was gods will and mission for Judas so was he sent to hell for it and killing him self?
@@deadlyred0112Jesus himself provided an answer to this paradox. I.e.: "Woe to the world because of offenses! For offenses must come, but woe to that man by whom the offense comes!
(Matthew 18:7). Every evil person in history and their evil deeds are taken into account in God's plan for humankind, but the fact that God ultimately turns these evil deeds for the benefit of His plan does not exonerate them. Judas put himself in hell, not by his betrayal, but by denying God's ability to forgive him, by rejection of God's love, by being ultimately selfish. This was not the God's punishment for his sins, this was his own choice.
Jewison got this idea from an unlikely source .
Jesus Christ Superstar is like watching a “rockumentary” on MTV if MTV was the 700 Club in a stoned out 1970s musical. That’s why I love it! 🎹🎸🤟
WHAT BOOK IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT? ANGEL CLAYVENTS?????? YOU MUST GIVE YOUR SOURCES IN A VERY CLEAR MANNER. PLEASE, DO ANSWER THIS QUESTION.THANK YOU VERY MUCH.GREAT ANALYSIS, BY THE WAY. RATHER BRILLIANT, ACTUALLY, AND AS A MATTER OF FACT!!!!!
"The Truth and Beauty" by Andrew Klavan.
It wasn't really a source though, or I would've cited it. Just a book I thought kinda connected to the theory.
But thank you! I appreciate that you liked it :)
You can make up any analysis any way you want.
Doesn’t Jesus tell the lepers to “heal yourselves!” Or do I remember it wrong? I think thats the message of that scene.