I'm still agonizing over this since I just figured out that I've been wearing shoes that are too big for too long now. I wear a 10 in sneakers and my current entry level Shimano shoes are a 44, which equates to a 9.7 according to the inner tag. I pulled out the insert and when I stand on it, there's more than an inch between my big toe and the end. But of course this means that my feet are short and WIDE, 110mm wide for what's probably more like a size 9. The Lake size guide has me fitting into a CX238 or the CX219 the best, since that Competition last best matches my wide feet. Of course, based on other videos for Lake shoes, most times the size in length is actually wrong. Now if Shimano and Lake sizes are the same, then I know I can get away with a 43 or even a 42.5 since my current 44s leave that extra inch at the end of my feet. Of course, I've been burned before... Thanks for sharing!
I wear a size 10 or 9.5 shoe most of the time. In cycling shoes I run spec. sworks in 43. Should I run a 43cm in Shimano? Recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
@@xcracer87 Specialized 43 is Shimano 44. Had this confirmed yesterday in a shop. At first I didn't believe the clerk, but sure enough... Shimanos are roomier in the midfoot and the upper though.
I agree Lake is better in terms of the sole space but I have problem with heel slippage even after molding they are too wide. They said that models 2021 improve that but I did not have chance to check that (I have to order from the shoe from another country)
I had the same problem with the RC 701's going to 702's (both in Wide). Toe box is the same, but the rear Boa fits much lower on the outer mid foot which means it becomes tighter with much less flex. I simply can't wear the 702's beyond 50ks without pain. My new CX332's in wide have totally solved this problem and are simply awesome! It makes you wonder why Shimano have done this? It forced me to shop elsewhere and after buying Lake's, I won't go back to Shimano shoes.
I recently bought wide 702s which felt great if just slightly tight in the store. But what I found is that as I rode in them and my socks absorbed my foot sweat, they got looser, especially around the heel, and I had to keep tightening them during the ride, but even that wasn't quite enough to make things truly snug. I do like them overall but this is a bit of an annoyance. I'll look into insole or heel inserts as I'm using the thin ones that came with them.
Good video, thanks for making this to compare the two. I took possibly my last ride with the 902's yesterday. 7½ hours and my feet were KILLLLING me in the 902's... was going to sell them and go for the wides when available... but now I'm not sure I'm going to do that. Might try to track down some 901's....
Yea ..long time high end shimano shoe buyer..and the 902 was my out. Sold them within a couple weeks of having them. I can't believe how tight they were. Unfortunate
Got the 903's in non-wide, because I have pretty regular feet. Only to find out that they are uncomfortably narrow. For me not in the mid-foot, but at the ball of my foot (where the foot is widest, I guess). In the bike shop it fit decently, because I had gone a size up from normal. But when you actually put power down in them on the bike, my feet slide backwards in that heel-cup (deeper than you can shove your heel in them when you're fitting them off the bike). This makes your foot slide towards the narrower sections of the shoe, and also makes the shoe too long. Very nice that you have to spend so much money to figure out Shimano's terrible sizing. I tried Lake's too in the shop, but for me they didn't feel as good at clamping my foot as the S Phyre did. I'll see if I can trade for the wide, and if that solves it, otherwise I'm back to Specialized shoes.
@@addictcyclist Hello, thanks for the recommendation. Sadly, the (cheap) Sidi MTB shoes I have are on the more narrow side too. But, in the worst case, or once I replace my MTB shoes, I'll be sure to give Sidi another chance, with either their wide variants or more premium models.
@@daydreaming_aristocrat Funny thing, just got them today. Massive delays at the Shimano warehouse. Tried them on shortly on the indoor trainer, and they felt great (comparable to my S-works road shoes 5, but stiffer and a very secure heel, but slightly narrower near my small toe). Actually sized down while going wider, compared to the previous 903's I tested, so from EU 47 to 46 wide. Also had a 46 in Sworks. Because the heel cup is so deep and the padding is pretty thick, I'd recommend placing the back of your heel on the ground when fitting them and really pushing your heel towards the ground, such that your heel is pushed as deep as possible. That may give a clearer indication on the fit, but it may still not be the same as under power. But for me, a wide did the job.
Is it the same with the RC502, that the wide version is not that wide? I got almost the same width as yours, from 10.75 to 10.9 maybe, should i go for the wide? I wear size 45 on the RP2 and it's a standard size.
My feet are wide, but my heel is somewhat narrow. I am having trouble deciding between Lake and Shimano wide. How does the width change when going from the heel box to the heel? Some lakes look they stay wide the whole foot and this Shimano looks like it gets narrow. Heel slip can be problem for when I have to get wide shoes.
Lake can be molded to secure heel. I have a narrow heel too. I found that Sidi wire 2 fit my foot shape the best after all of the shoes I have ordered. I have tried a dozen shoes.
@@addictcyclist Thanks for your prompt reply. But isn't the molding option only available for top models? i cannot afford shoes such as CX301 or CX403.
What size did you get Shimano? I can see that the Lakes are 44.5. I have 27cm foot with 11cm at widest point and having 43.5 Lakes and now I got Shimano (901 wide) in 43 and I'm touching the front with big toe... but 43 would probably be too big...
@@callemacody awesome shoe, terrible fitment for me. My big toe felt like it was half off the sole. The midfoot was too tight. Aching side. I had in wide too.
How does the 902 feel after you’ve ridden in them. Still prefer the 901? Also did you size up for the 902 or just got the wide version in the same size for the 902 vs 901.
I got the same size of my 901 but wide. Still prefer the 901. I just got replacement heel pads for the 901 so they will last longer. Length was spot on comparing the two. The width of the 902 is a joke. The sole is more narrow and still less volume than the 901.
Have a question about 901 i normally wear 41 in nike sneakers measured my feet at Decathlon to be 25.5 cm i bought 40 in sidi cycling shoes as it is recommended in their website after first ride i felt pain in my foot and when i take the insole out my toe was over the end of the insole by 5mm now i have a second hand 42 rc901 which is at a great price shimano says 42 is for 26.5-26.8 cm do you think it would be too big and if it is can i close that gap by any methods (thick socks second layer of insoles)
I've asked two separate LBS about this, and both say that they have no idea. One had the shimano rep in store the same time I was asking and they can't put a date on it right now.
I'm still agonizing over this since I just figured out that I've been wearing shoes that are too big for too long now. I wear a 10 in sneakers and my current entry level Shimano shoes are a 44, which equates to a 9.7 according to the inner tag. I pulled out the insert and when I stand on it, there's more than an inch between my big toe and the end. But of course this means that my feet are short and WIDE, 110mm wide for what's probably more like a size 9. The Lake size guide has me fitting into a CX238 or the CX219 the best, since that Competition last best matches my wide feet. Of course, based on other videos for Lake shoes, most times the size in length is actually wrong. Now if Shimano and Lake sizes are the same, then I know I can get away with a 43 or even a 42.5 since my current 44s leave that extra inch at the end of my feet. Of course, I've been burned before...
Thanks for sharing!
I wear a size 10 or 9.5 shoe most of the time. In cycling shoes I run spec. sworks in 43. Should I run a 43cm in Shimano? Recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
@@xcracer87 Specialized 43 is Shimano 44. Had this confirmed yesterday in a shop. At first I didn't believe the clerk, but sure enough... Shimanos are roomier in the midfoot and the upper though.
I agree Lake is better in terms of the sole space but I have problem with heel slippage even after molding they are too wide. They said that models 2021 improve that but I did not have chance to check that (I have to order from the shoe from another country)
I had the same problem with the RC 701's going to 702's (both in Wide). Toe box is the same, but the rear Boa fits much lower on the outer mid foot which means it becomes tighter with much less flex. I simply can't wear the 702's beyond 50ks without pain. My new CX332's in wide have totally solved this problem and are simply awesome! It makes you wonder why Shimano have done this? It forced me to shop elsewhere and after buying Lake's, I won't go back to Shimano shoes.
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I recently bought wide 702s which felt great if just slightly tight in the store. But what I found is that as I rode in them and my socks absorbed my foot sweat, they got looser, especially around the heel, and I had to keep tightening them during the ride, but even that wasn't quite enough to make things truly snug. I do like them overall but this is a bit of an annoyance. I'll look into insole or heel inserts as I'm using the thin ones that came with them.
Good video, thanks for making this to compare the two. I took possibly my last ride with the 902's yesterday. 7½ hours and my feet were KILLLLING me in the 902's... was going to sell them and go for the wides when available... but now I'm not sure I'm going to do that. Might try to track down some 901's....
Thanks for feedback. I would consider other options. The shoe is too narrow. My first metatarsal was near hanging off and my forefoot is not wide.
Yea ..long time high end shimano shoe buyer..and the 902 was my out. Sold them within a couple weeks of having them. I can't believe how tight they were. Unfortunate
Size 45. Foot length 28 cm, foot width 10.5 cm, foot circumference 25.5-26 cm. Do I need a standard or wide model? I mean model RC702
Go wide and try. Wife is still very narrow
I have the same size as you, which size did you choose? 45 or 46?
@@Lookingforamiracle rc702 I chose size 45 wide version. This is good!
@@Murad-611 I tried Shimano and two wide lake shoes and still get pain in the outer sides of my feet. I have the same size as you :(
Got the 903's in non-wide, because I have pretty regular feet. Only to find out that they are uncomfortably narrow. For me not in the mid-foot, but at the ball of my foot (where the foot is widest, I guess). In the bike shop it fit decently, because I had gone a size up from normal. But when you actually put power down in them on the bike, my feet slide backwards in that heel-cup (deeper than you can shove your heel in them when you're fitting them off the bike). This makes your foot slide towards the narrower sections of the shoe, and also makes the shoe too long. Very nice that you have to spend so much money to figure out Shimano's terrible sizing. I tried Lake's too in the shop, but for me they didn't feel as good at clamping my foot as the S Phyre did. I'll see if I can trade for the wide, and if that solves it, otherwise I'm back to Specialized shoes.
Forget specialized too, give Sidi a go! Never looking back!
@@addictcyclist Hello, thanks for the recommendation. Sadly, the (cheap) Sidi MTB shoes I have are on the more narrow side too. But, in the worst case, or once I replace my MTB shoes, I'll be sure to give Sidi another chance, with either their wide variants or more premium models.
Hey, any updates on the fit of the 903 in wide? :)
@@daydreaming_aristocrat Funny thing, just got them today. Massive delays at the Shimano warehouse. Tried them on shortly on the indoor trainer, and they felt great (comparable to my S-works road shoes 5, but stiffer and a very secure heel, but slightly narrower near my small toe). Actually sized down while going wider, compared to the previous 903's I tested, so from EU 47 to 46 wide. Also had a 46 in Sworks. Because the heel cup is so deep and the padding is pretty thick, I'd recommend placing the back of your heel on the ground when fitting them and really pushing your heel towards the ground, such that your heel is pushed as deep as possible. That may give a clearer indication on the fit, but it may still not be the same as under power. But for me, a wide did the job.
Is it the same with the RC502, that the wide version is not that wide? I got almost the same width as yours, from 10.75 to 10.9 maybe, should i go for the wide? I wear size 45 on the RP2 and it's a standard size.
I never tried the 502. Def go wide on any shoe these days if you can
My feet are wide, but my heel is somewhat narrow. I am having trouble deciding between Lake and Shimano wide. How does the width change when going from the heel box to the heel? Some lakes look they stay wide the whole foot and this Shimano looks like it gets narrow. Heel slip can be problem for when I have to get wide shoes.
Lake can be molded to secure heel. I have a narrow heel too. I found that Sidi wire 2 fit my foot shape the best after all of the shoes I have ordered. I have tried a dozen shoes.
@@addictcyclist Thanks for your prompt reply. But isn't the molding option only available for top models? i cannot afford shoes such as CX301 or CX403.
@@ShadowzKiller yes 241, 332, 403
What size did you get Shimano? I can see that the Lakes are 44.5. I have 27cm foot with 11cm at widest point and having 43.5 Lakes and now I got Shimano (901 wide) in 43 and I'm touching the front with big toe... but 43 would probably be too big...
I wore 44.5 lake and 44.5 Shimano and with hindsight I belonged in 45 in both brands.
How were the Shimano RC902 S-PHYRE for you? i have like 11 cm wide and 27-27,5 long feet. Will i fit a 43 wide, or do i need 44?
@@callemacody awesome shoe, terrible fitment for me. My big toe felt like it was half off the sole. The midfoot was too tight. Aching side. I had in wide too.
Hi,
thanks for the review. Did you find any difference in the length of the shoes? I've noticed it changing a bit on some other models
Same length at 283mm for my 44.5EU size
How does the 902 feel after you’ve ridden in them. Still prefer the 901? Also did you size up for the 902 or just got the wide version in the same size for the 902 vs 901.
I got the same size of my 901 but wide. Still prefer the 901. I just got replacement heel pads for the 901 so they will last longer. Length was spot on comparing the two. The width of the 902 is a joke. The sole is more narrow and still less volume than the 901.
Do you think the sidi shot 2 is better than the shimano 903 . Tried the lakes and S Works torch and too much heel lift in them. .
I have had the best luck with Sidi Shot due to my foot shape.
Have a question about 901 i normally wear 41 in nike sneakers measured my feet at Decathlon to be 25.5 cm i bought 40 in sidi cycling shoes as it is recommended in their website after first ride i felt pain in my foot and when i take the insole out my toe was over the end of the insole by 5mm now i have a second hand 42 rc901 which is at a great price shimano says 42 is for 26.5-26.8 cm do you think it would be too big and if it is can i close that gap by any methods (thick socks second layer of insoles)
I sized up with Sidi. I wore 44.5 in Shimano. 45.5 in Sidi
Are you sure you have enough arch support if your midfoot is flexing a lot? Arch should't collapse.
My arch does not collapse, I have a pancake 🥞 hanging off the outer midfoot 🤣
So you find the RC902 in a wide version more narrow then the normal RC901?
Yes! 902 wide more narrow than the 901 regular
Does look keo cleats work with these shoes?
Of course!
Does anyone when the 702's are coming to Australia?
I've asked two separate LBS about this, and both say that they have no idea. One had the shimano rep in store the same time I was asking and they can't put a date on it right now.
@@rsam346 Hi, thanks for the info . Since typing that, my LBS has said January for a release date - hoping he is right!
Lakes are Hot!
I think this isn’t a problem for me, i have narrow foot
Look long and skinny compared to the 901.
Exactly
your midfoot shouldn't be flexing lol you need insoles my guy
The outer part of my mid foot has a flank steak hanging off the side. It’s not my arch. I use insoles.
i have this shoes, fake and bad quality material, made in china, no need to lay to peoples 😏😬