Great video, I've found the same thing multiple times now, as have others. Impressive tyre but really hates being too hot. Also thanks for the kind words, sorry I'd not seen this, someone just linked me in the comments :)
Thanks Jonathan keep up the great work. The quality of your testing and passion for tyres is addictive and the tyre review website is just so helpful. Awesome stuff love it.
I had the same issue on my MX-5 ND after just 30 minutes on track. The previous S001 had less grip, but they lasted several track days with perfect wear.
John the big problem you have and you even mentioned is the outer shoulder getting shredded. This is because the suspensions setup is not very good for track use. As you turn in the tyre rolls over and most of the weight ends up on the outer shoulder scrubbing the rubber away. My advise is to spend some money on a coilover setup with camber adjustable top mounts to give you more neg camber, this will help the tyre to roll more centrally across the tyre and massively reduce the outer shoulder getting destroyed. On another note I’m using the Goodyear F1 supersports on my golf gti tcr and they are epic, they hold on a lot longer than the ps4’s that were on before. I went on tyre reviews latest mega test and went for the supersports and haven’t been disappointed.
Great video Jon! A little different, but still interesting! Don't listen all this stupid comments Jon, like this isn't a "proper" review or "not a detailing video".😒 "Forensic" community fully understand what's this about! Have a great next Track day! 😉
I’ve had no issues with my Goodyear eagle f1 asymmetric 5’s. Good all rounder and I drive it pretty hard in the dry. Fairly priced too. Would rate them
but thats running temps right. If I start at 36 PSI I hit like low fourtys when then warm up. so I tend to set 32f 33 or 34r. not sure though. if its autumn or colder I will run like 34f 35r. greatfull for advice on this
@@ForensicDetailing its alright if it goes above rather than under. Damage usually occurs when you corner hard with low pressure. Yup, these tyres are good on street but bad if you really push it on the track, it just melts .
@@mpkback I upgraded my brakes to 300mm on my fiesta and previously when I had Toyo proxes on in the wet the wheels would just skid increasing the braking distance. These tires really helped with that
I’ve recently had huge problems with the factory fitted 235/35/19 Bridgestone S005 tyres fitted to my 2020 M135i, they have suffered from extremely abnormal uneven wear even though they are at the recommended pressures and the car was not driven hard, they were worn (feathered and stepped) which included weird centre wear in only 4600 miles, BMW are currently investigating the issue in parallel with Bridgestone as it is not an isolated issue, Bridgestone say they are not compatible with the cars set up even though they are star marked and fitted at factory, I’ll never buy Bridgestone tyres again after this experience and cost of new Pzero PZ4’s, I’m sure that if I had used the S005’s on track they would have done exactly the same as the sports, Bridgestone UK told BMW (as part of my open warranty claim) that the S005’s are too soft a compound for these cars.
My 2019 Nissan 370Z sport coupe came with the Bridgestone Potenza S007 which was a great handling tire. The only drawbacks were the high rate of tread wear and the excessive wear on the outside of the tread on the front tires after a spirited drive through the mountains in Northern California. The replacement tire at 15,000 miles was the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, a fantastic performing tire that gave me a good 35K miles with no tire rotations. Its drawback was that the steering wasn't as responsive and solid as I would have liked. The set I'm currently using is the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2(240) and am totally satisfied with them, especially with their firm and responsive control. They will not last as long as the 4S tires, probably around 21K miles.
@@salami99 I avoid hard braking, accelerating and cornering when the roads are wet. Also, I keep the speed to not exceed 45 mph on the highway when there is water on the road during rain. Driving carefully during rain has worked well for me, not having lost traction or control in the rain.
@@xelad6159 they are good for the wet that's about it. They have really thin and weak sidewalls, my m4 struggles for grip, I can break traction at 60 mph running mp4s. I was running re71R and they hook even in first gear. But they quit making those
Think it maybe time for spare set of wheels with a track aimed tyre will save you a lot of ££££ in the long run and be a lot more fun to a decent geo setup would make it a lot better on track to but may spoil it a tad on road
Never mentioned the wheel size. Another variable in Summer Tires is that a particular tire that is available in 16" - 22", for example, may perform extremely well in 19" or 20" and larger, but perform much worse in the 17" and 18" sizes. Otherwise, good personal review. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Goodyear eagle f1 super sport better wet grip than anything else I have them on my f32 440i they have transformed the car so much quieter and no skipping on full lock
@@vollcare4076 Michelin 4s the good year eagle f1 we’re 2 seconds a lap quicker driving a BMW m2 competition rear wheel drive over a short lap in the wet but around the same time in the dry which is amazing
I am running these on my VRS245 and for run use very good and I won't track this car. I get fed up with the way ps4 is now too popular and people won't consider anything else. Ps4 is comfort sport tyre and very expensive, I had them in my old car. Ps4s are 40 a corner more than these sports
I'm in the same boat as you, I like to have a daily driver that I can take to the track. I had street tyres that weren't up to the task on track. I ended up with Yoko Advan Neova AD08r now but again, fantastic on track and fine as a daily unless it is absolutely pelting down, then I take it very easy. I think the only real way to go about it is to have 2 sets of wheels and tyres. A nice daily set of all rounder like PS4s and a reallygood semi slick you can drive to a dey track day.
@@ForensicDetailing I have only done 1 track day in the.. on a track that laps in less than 1 minute I picked up over 1 second per laps. If you haven't used a semi slick becore the grip and consistency is incredible. Daily driving they are fine but in heavy rain amd if water is flowing over the road I take extra care lol. Dry track tyre that is street legal.. 👌
AD08R was really good, but in Germany we cannot buy them anymore...we have to buy the AD08RS with less roll resistance. But unfortunately the AD08RS does not only have less roll resistance, the performance is also pretty low compared to the AD08R.😭
My cousin has the Bridgestone Potenza run flats tyres and in the space of 3 years he had to replace them approx 4-5 times due to nail puncture and the ride was hard too
Hi Jon Love your channel. The tyres are fit for for a road tyre. Track use you will need too upgrade your suspension to coil overs and upgrade your anti roll bars. This will cost you far more than £400.00. The camber needs adjustment so does the toe. You will need adjustable bump and rebound on the dampers. A full suspension set up on a flat patch and corner weight the car . All of this will be terrible on the road. You can’t have both. Also adjust your tyre pressures to something like 2.00 -2.10 Bar. Please keep up the good work.
I have a c180 2010 and am planning to buy new tyres i wanted the falken fk510 but we have cold weather sometimes so its not recommendable to get them, my options are the those and the p7 pirelli and bfggoodrich advantage and the continental (dont know the model but same price as those) .. what do you recommend ?
what camber r u driving? I think there is your problem, OEM wheel allignment is noting 4 trackuse. millway 2 the front and full camber on the rear and your tires wount Look like thos
Hi! Could you comment on the tyre noise at all? Looking at getting these for our BMW G20 330i, no track use, just replacing the OEM Goodyear Eagle F1s RF's. Want a non RF and at least as quiet. Any opinions on the noise levels?? Cheers
I have them on my E60. Noise is very acceptable. On my 911 I have Pirelli P Zero and they are much more noisy for example. Since I don’t track day my car, so the Potenza Sport is my go-to tire now.
Are these tires good for just street use?? Do not track my car but am looking for a car I can beat on in the summer with some straight line driving. But I see bad stuff about the wear
for me no. theres something really unusual with the way this compound wears under load. Im not a tyre expert, I enjoyed my time on these tyres but I would not recomend them or buy them again.
Looks like they would suit a lighter car, looks like the load was too high. The rippled/pealed effect is common on certain types of tyre like Pirelli Trofeo R’s, also the wear looks similar… with the Trofeo they get better as the tread wears down to almost a slick… it might have been worth pushing on a bit more and seeing if the wear slows and grip increases but understand this is hard on a road car where you have to drive home after the day.
the Sports look exactly what they should after running fast hot laps!? they were working weren’t they. then need changing. expendables and at lower cost than others consider as.
Ok m8. If you think that's normal after 2 sessions to go from.new that then there's not much I can say. Tyre reviews also noted 40% Deg versus 2% on rival tyres with circuit testing. Big issue with these tyres as covered in video. Don't believe me then go buy them
Got them on my RS3. Slightly cheaper than MPS4s and was pretty even between them and the Michelin’s on Tyre Reviews channel. Can’t fault them on the road that’s for sure.
@@Mac_F87 yes agreed but PS4’s is not and out and out track tyre. Also it’s not a tyre made for the mainstream and is available in limited sizes and fitments. Also for some people the PS4 will be considerably more than the tested tyre 70 vs 120 per tyres
@@ForensicDetailing Sure, I'm not disagreeing with you on that, but the fact the outside is melting and the inside is not, shows the alignment is not "in line" with the application you're using it for. (meaning, you should run more negative camber for track usage, regardless of the tire). It will give you more mid corner grip too. ;-)
Ultra performance wise there's compramuse because they can't beat winter tyre performance in cold wet. But mich ps4s, Goodyear pilot super sport, conti 6 are prolly the 3 you should consider.
Uniroyal rainsport tyre's ive seen on a lot of vehicle's the last few wks and have a customer who has them on there impreza wrx and says they have great grip on tge dry and on the wet but i think it may vary for different peoples driving style and what type of car. Also find if you have a different set of tyres on the back to the front can of set the tyres not sure if its the way it repelles the water 🤔 I had perille on one of my cars was fantastic dry and wet roads but than put them on my mazda 323f and they just didn't grip at all was almost like driving on an icey road all the time. I'll be trying the uniroyal tyres next i need a new set of tyres.
The Uniroyal rainsports are a overrated pile of wank. They aren't that good in the wet Soft in the dry but with loss of grip Unpredictable when on the edge of grip. And not that well priced when spending abit more gets you a premium tyre
31 and 32 psi? That's a little low for a street tyre on track. I run 35 on all four. Btw: You can fit 235/40R18 on the rear rims. Increases your options.
I don't think the potenza sport is in the same category as the michelin and goodyear supersport type tyres. I was looking at them for my mondeo as tyre choice in my size is limited, alot of reviews suggest these potenza sport don't like the cold, damp british mornings. I think i'll be going for goodyear assymetric 5's
P sport is up, like the ps4. The super sport is uuhp so ps4s level. The price point on the bridge stones is good and early German review set them veyd close to ps4 so 8 went with them
Taking everything into consideration, Performance/grip, Wet grip, Wear, Road noise, Comfort, Price. PS4 for me every time. Not tried these though Jon, although my car did have Potenza RFT's on when I got it, utter shyte mate.
Definitely not for track use! Driving too hard on the track??? You're on the track! WTF would say that? Are those the folks who also said you're holding your phone wrong?
Спасибо вам за ваш труд🎖❗️Чуть не купил такой Bridgestone на BMW❗️Очень жёстко езжу❗️Только по вашему опыту стало понятно ,что мне такие не подойдут❗️Привет из России 👋😲🇷🇺
I have PS4 ZP tires on my E63 630i and they make the car floaty. The Potenza RE050 tires used to be more sporty and responsive. Unfortunately they were discontinued.
Ah Shit. They ran out of ps4s where I am and only has BS protenza sport. Not even delivered to me yet but already have buyers remorse. Not that I had much choice. Coming from falkren fk510 which has gone up in price. Sucks for me
@@ForensicDetailing hello, Can you tell me please, what do you recomand for a new Passat B8 with 220 hp? 235 45 R18. I only run on the street, but pretty fast. I have a choice between: 1 Hankook s1 evo3 2 Falken Azenis fk 510 3 Pirelli pz4 4 Kumho ps 71 5 Bridgestone Potenza Sport 6 Nexen NFera sport 2. Best regards ! 😁
Speaking in your own words: "What a stupid comment!" This is not a tyre review, this is Jon's personal issue he is experienced and wanted to share with us! Don't like don't watch.... simple....
@@iantitley7116 if you watched the video how come you didn’t hear Jon’s disclaimer, muppet? Of course only your opinion matters, everyone else has to keep it quiet? Don’t tell me or anyone else what to do!
nothing but only a real idiot would read the title and think it had something to do with detailing. If you need your hair cut the sign on their premises will say hair dresser or barbers etc.. not tyre shop. this could be the dumbest comment ive ever read in 5 years of doing YT.
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Great video, I've found the same thing multiple times now, as have others. Impressive tyre but really hates being too hot. Also thanks for the kind words, sorry I'd not seen this, someone just linked me in the comments :)
Thanks Jonathan keep up the great work. The quality of your testing and passion for tyres is addictive and the tyre review website is just so helpful. Awesome stuff love it.
Why melting was not good ?
Melting not = Grippy on track ?
@@mingchan2956 Breaking down on the track reduces rigidity on the track making the tire start feeling loose and all over the place.
I had the same issue on my MX-5 ND after just 30 minutes on track. The previous S001 had less grip, but they lasted several track days with perfect wear.
Tyre Reviews is also my go to for tyre testing Jon. Guy knows his stuff & as far as I am concerned I take his testing as fact!
John the big problem you have and you even mentioned is the outer shoulder getting shredded. This is because the suspensions setup is not very good for track use. As you turn in the tyre rolls over and most of the weight ends up on the outer shoulder scrubbing the rubber away.
My advise is to spend some money on a coilover setup with camber adjustable top mounts to give you more neg camber, this will help the tyre to roll more centrally across the tyre and massively reduce the outer shoulder getting destroyed.
On another note I’m using the Goodyear F1 supersports on my golf gti tcr and they are epic, they hold on a lot longer than the ps4’s that were on before. I went on tyre reviews latest mega test and went for the supersports and haven’t been disappointed.
But I ran kumho and they were fine. Mpss are bad but not thisbad. They went after 1 session. Thats no good for me
definitely need a new sister channel for tire reviews and non-detailing subjects ! 😂
Great video Jon! A little different, but still interesting! Don't listen all this stupid comments Jon, like this isn't a "proper" review or "not a detailing video".😒 "Forensic" community fully understand what's this about! Have a great next Track day! 😉
MPSS was discontinued and replaced with the MPS4S, which according to many maaany reviews is best UHP tyre, only problem with it is lack of sizes.
I’ve had no issues with my Goodyear eagle f1 asymmetric 5’s. Good all rounder and I drive it pretty hard in the dry. Fairly priced too. Would rate them
11:24 . Rule of thumb mate, track days tyre pressure should be set at 36 psi at least!!
but thats running temps right. If I start at 36 PSI I hit like low fourtys when then warm up. so I tend to set 32f 33 or 34r. not sure though. if its autumn or colder I will run like 34f 35r. greatfull for advice on this
@@ForensicDetailing its alright if it goes above rather than under. Damage usually occurs when you corner hard with low pressure. Yup, these tyres are good on street but bad if you really push it on the track, it just melts .
Potenza’s and PS4s are my go to tyres on my cars!
Think you should now be called Forensics tire reviewing 😂.
I use and recommend Uniroyal rainsport 5 tires. Excellent on grip especially on the wet
Seconded. I had those on my last car and could not believe the grip and feel in the wet. Seriously impressed.
@@mpkback I upgraded my brakes to 300mm on my fiesta and previously when I had Toyo proxes on in the wet the wheels would just skid increasing the braking distance. These tires really helped with that
Good grip but I found they wore very quickly
Specifically for most Bridgestone tires. Usually very fast but they get destroyed very quickly on track
I’ve recently had huge problems with the factory fitted 235/35/19 Bridgestone S005 tyres fitted to my 2020 M135i, they have suffered from extremely abnormal uneven wear even though they are at the recommended pressures and the car was not driven hard, they were worn (feathered and stepped) which included weird centre wear in only 4600 miles, BMW are currently investigating the issue in parallel with Bridgestone as it is not an isolated issue, Bridgestone say they are not compatible with the cars set up even though they are star marked and fitted at factory, I’ll never buy Bridgestone tyres again after this experience and cost of new Pzero PZ4’s, I’m sure that if I had used the S005’s on track they would have done exactly the same as the sports, Bridgestone UK told BMW (as part of my open warranty claim) that the S005’s are too soft a compound for these cars.
Same problem with my m235i gran coupe only done 5500 driving sensible and need 2 new front tyres seem uneven wear.
My 2019 Nissan 370Z sport coupe came with the Bridgestone Potenza S007 which was a great handling tire. The only drawbacks were the high rate of tread wear and the excessive wear on the outside of the tread on the front tires after a spirited drive through the mountains in Northern California. The replacement tire at 15,000 miles was the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, a fantastic performing tire that gave me a good 35K miles with no tire rotations. Its drawback was that the steering wasn't as responsive and solid as I would have liked. The set I'm currently using is the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2(240) and am totally satisfied with them, especially with their firm and responsive control. They will not last as long as the 4S tires, probably around 21K miles.
but what about the Cup2s in the rain. I am also in norcal, i run ps4s and got potenzas for cheap in the mail
@@salami99 I avoid hard braking, accelerating and cornering when the roads are wet. Also, I keep the speed to not exceed 45 mph on the highway when there is water on the road during rain. Driving carefully during rain has worked well for me, not having lost traction or control in the rain.
Been very impressed with the Pilot Sport 4S myself
Mp4s are very pedestrian not good for track or high power
@@behindthen0thing525 My M5 can happily snatch second in them, also very good in the wet.
@@xelad6159 they are good for the wet that's about it.
They have really thin and weak sidewalls, my m4 struggles for grip, I can break traction at 60 mph running mp4s.
I was running re71R and they hook even in first gear. But they quit making those
Yeh but they are a fair bit more in price these are a ps4 competitor
Thanks for giving a shout out to Jonathan at Tyre Reviews, a fantastic site for expert reviews.
first thing you want is at least -2 camber, for any kind of fast driving ... get some camber bolts...
Think it maybe time for spare set of wheels with a track aimed tyre will save you a lot of ££££ in the long run and be a lot more fun to a decent geo setup would make it a lot better on track to but may spoil it a tad on road
Never mentioned the wheel size. Another variable in Summer Tires is that a particular tire that is available in 16" - 22", for example, may perform extremely well in 19" or 20" and larger, but perform much worse in the 17" and 18" sizes. Otherwise, good personal review. Thanks for sharing your experience.
I had michelins melt the same way on the street... not as severe but same sort of issue...
Jon, you can get PS4S in the 18” 225/40/18 I believe.. Never rated Potenza tyres. Michelin on all my cars..
no they dont
I believe only in this size for the Yaris GR
good info, ur right about the heat
Goodyear eagle f1 super sport better wet grip than anything else I have them on my f32 440i they have transformed the car so much quieter and no skipping on full lock
Plus 1 ! F1 is a an excellent tyre.
Agree, have had F1s on an Evo8, Focus RSMk2, Mustang V8 and Tesla M3P and can't fault them on any of them.
Which tyre did you run before the F1SS ?
@@vollcare4076
Michelin 4s the good year eagle f1 we’re 2 seconds a lap quicker driving a BMW m2 competition rear wheel drive over a short lap in the wet but around the same time in the dry which is amazing
@@F40pete thanks
What’s your impression regards comfort / harshness compared to the PS4S ?
I prefer L(uxury) tires. Good review !
I am running these on my VRS245 and for run use very good and I won't track this car. I get fed up with the way ps4 is now too popular and people won't consider anything else. Ps4 is comfort sport tyre and very expensive, I had them in my old car. Ps4s are 40 a corner more than these sports
I'm in the same boat as you, I like to have a daily driver that I can take to the track. I had street tyres that weren't up to the task on track. I ended up with Yoko Advan Neova AD08r now but again, fantastic on track and fine as a daily unless it is absolutely pelting down, then I take it very easy.
I think the only real way to go about it is to have 2 sets of wheels and tyres. A nice daily set of all rounder like PS4s and a reallygood semi slick you can drive to a dey track day.
Ad08r 9 want to try next
@@ForensicDetailing I have only done 1 track day in the.. on a track that laps in less than 1 minute I picked up over 1 second per laps. If you haven't used a semi slick becore the grip and consistency is incredible.
Daily driving they are fine but in heavy rain amd if water is flowing over the road I take extra care lol.
Dry track tyre that is street legal.. 👌
AD08R was really good, but in Germany we cannot buy them anymore...we have to buy the AD08RS with less roll resistance.
But unfortunately the AD08RS does not only have less roll resistance, the performance is also pretty low compared to the AD08R.😭
Honest reveiw as always jon ! I'm going for a set of Nankang's next i think.
Thank you
Waiting awkwardly as I've got these tyres on.
Might be time for some Pirelli tires 😎
My cousin has the Bridgestone Potenza run flats tyres and in the space of 3 years he had to replace them approx 4-5 times due to nail puncture and the ride was hard too
really?? as the tyre only came out this year lol
@@GrahamReid34 ahhh I just noticed this is sports, the one my cousin has is Bridgestone Potenza RE050A run flat tyres
Run flats are garbage
There are several Potenza models the sports came out this year, the old s001 were hard and noisy
Hi Jon
Love your channel.
The tyres are fit for for a road tyre.
Track use you will need too upgrade your suspension to coil overs and upgrade your anti roll bars.
This will cost you far more than £400.00.
The camber needs adjustment so does the toe.
You will need adjustable bump and rebound on the dampers.
A full suspension set up on a flat patch and corner weight the car .
All of this will be terrible on the road.
You can’t have both.
Also adjust your tyre pressures to something like 2.00 -2.10 Bar.
Please keep up the good work.
i had this exact same issue with mine. Melting really bad.
They're supposed to. It's how they get more grip
For gas road use offer 5000 miles they have been very good for me, give me more feedback than the ps4
I have a c180 2010 and am planning to buy new tyres i wanted the falken fk510 but we have cold weather sometimes so its not recommendable to get them, my options are the those and the p7 pirelli and bfggoodrich advantage and the continental (dont know the model but same price as those) .. what do you recommend ?
Excellent helpful video
Uniroyal Rainsport 5 🙌🙌 wet grip is phenomenal.
what camber r u driving? I think there is your problem, OEM wheel allignment is noting 4 trackuse. millway 2 the front and full camber on the rear and your tires wount Look like thos
I'm loving my Michelin pilot sport 4s, revised version of the super sports
Unfortunately not available in 245/35 18
Love your content but what about the run flat factor with beemers- adds some cost
Hi! Could you comment on the tyre noise at all? Looking at getting these for our BMW G20 330i, no track use, just replacing the OEM Goodyear Eagle F1s RF's. Want a non RF and at least as quiet. Any opinions on the noise levels??
Cheers
I have them on my E60. Noise is very acceptable. On my 911 I have Pirelli P Zero and they are much more noisy for example. Since I don’t track day my car, so the Potenza Sport is my go-to tire now.
Are these tires good for just street use?? Do not track my car but am looking for a car I can beat on in the summer with some straight line driving. But I see bad stuff about the wear
for me no. theres something really unusual with the way this compound wears under load. Im not a tyre expert, I enjoyed my time on these tyres but I would not recomend them or buy them again.
Goodyear f1 super sport 🔥
Looks like they would suit a lighter car, looks like the load was too high. The rippled/pealed effect is common on certain types of tyre like Pirelli Trofeo R’s, also the wear looks similar… with the Trofeo they get better as the tread wears down to almost a slick… it might have been worth pushing on a bit more and seeing if the wear slows and grip increases but understand this is hard on a road car where you have to drive home after the day.
There's a major issue with this tyre
the Sports look exactly what they should after running fast hot laps!? they were working weren’t they. then need changing. expendables and at lower cost than others consider as.
Ok m8. If you think that's normal after 2 sessions to go from.new that then there's not much I can say. Tyre reviews also noted 40% Deg versus 2% on rival tyres with circuit testing. Big issue with these tyres as covered in video. Don't believe me then go buy them
Goodyear F1 Supersport.
You won't regret it
Got them on my RS3. Slightly cheaper than MPS4s and was pretty even between them and the Michelin’s on Tyre Reviews channel. Can’t fault them on the road that’s for sure.
@@Mac_F87 Or track. They can take a lot heat. Don't wear fast and they recover quickly.
Yeh but they are a lot more money like ps4s
@@TheJbsportstech you get what you pay for. Good grip, good wet weather performance and it would seem good wear as well.
@@Mac_F87 yes agreed but PS4’s is not and out and out track tyre. Also it’s not a tyre made for the mainstream and is available in limited sizes and fitments. Also for some people the PS4 will be considerably more than the tested tyre 70 vs 120 per tyres
Hey mate, I’d be taking them back. That’s not supposed to happen.
good morning , is it better bridgestone power sport or michelin pilot sport 4 as duration ?
I personally won't buy Bridgestone tyres again as they melt in motor sport use to a ridiculous extent. These tyres should be withdrawn
1:02 EVO Triangle?
PS4s are £600 minimum for my size 19
Exactly and the shoulders are very hard. They are more comfort than sport ps4 very good all round tyre
Firestone Indy 500 Yokohama Adnan or Radar Dimax R8 plus might be more durable
Seems to me you need to run more negative camber if you are destroying the outside of your tires.
Not all tyres on stock setup melt like this
@@ForensicDetailing Sure, I'm not disagreeing with you on that, but the fact the outside is melting and the inside is not, shows the alignment is not "in line" with the application you're using it for. (meaning, you should run more negative camber for track usage, regardless of the tire). It will give you more mid corner grip too. ;-)
What’s the best tires for everyday fast road that last the longest would you say driving a type r fn2 and best for every weather
Ultra performance wise there's compramuse because they can't beat winter tyre performance in cold wet. But mich ps4s, Goodyear pilot super sport, conti 6 are prolly the 3 you should consider.
@@ForensicDetailing got ps4 lasted 6 months needs to last longer lol
Ps4s not PS4 m8. But performance tyre is softer compound.
Michelin primacy all season and bridgestone potenza A/S
Pilot sport cup 2🔥
Treadwear?
any thoughts on a decent enough rear tyre for mercedes, just normal driving really?
Price, value and all round performance, I rate my Hankooks… but I found you need to have all 4 for best results.
@@davidhammond3738 thanks Richards brother 😂✌️
Uniroyal rainsport tyre's ive seen on a lot of vehicle's the last few wks and have a customer who has them on there impreza wrx and says they have great grip on tge dry and on the wet but i think it may vary for different peoples driving style and what type of car. Also find if you have a different set of tyres on the back to the front can of set the tyres not sure if its the way it repelles the water 🤔
I had perille on one of my cars was fantastic dry and wet roads but than put them on my mazda 323f and they just didn't grip at all was almost like driving on an icey road all the time.
I'll be trying the uniroyal tyres next i need a new set of tyres.
The Uniroyal rainsports are a overrated pile of wank.
They aren't that good in the wet
Soft in the dry but with loss of grip
Unpredictable when on the edge of grip. And not that well priced when spending abit more gets you a premium tyre
31 and 32 psi? That's a little low for a street tyre on track. I run 35 on all four.
Btw: You can fit 235/40R18 on the rear rims. Increases your options.
If the tires can't handle a track session, they shouldn't be called Sports anywhere in the naming
your better with pilot sport cup 2 John
Sizes not right for m lites 😑
They are pants for a daily car they are a summer and track tyres, no fun in the wet winter
Underinflated?
you forgot the P Zero and P Zero Corsa
PZero and PZ4 (front only) could be sourced. I don't think the Corsas are available [EDIT: in these sizes ]
These are the worst tires. I’m taking them off of my Infiniti tomorrow!
Goodyear f1 as5 for me
I don't think the potenza sport is in the same category as the michelin and goodyear supersport type tyres. I was looking at them for my mondeo as tyre choice in my size is limited, alot of reviews suggest these potenza sport don't like the cold, damp british mornings. I think i'll be going for goodyear assymetric 5's
I think it is mate UUHP but could be wring6
P sport is up, like the ps4. The super sport is uuhp so ps4s level. The price point on the bridge stones is good and early German review set them veyd close to ps4 so 8 went with them
Tires are cheap over there. They're about twice as expensive in the US.
But fuel costs lots more here
Need more front camber.. you can't blame the tyre for that.
Said same thing in video but also said other performance options have not melted after 1 session with stock setup
They need heat. Assymetric 5/6 still a better all round tyre and feel like a UHP tyre should unlike PS4/PS5.
They melt on track. How this got through testing is beyond my comprehension.
@@ForensicDetailing
Track tyres are for the track. Not sure why you haven’t worked this out?
Taking everything into consideration, Performance/grip, Wet grip, Wear, Road noise, Comfort, Price.
PS4 for me every time.
Not tried these though Jon, although my car did have Potenza RFT's on when I got it, utter shyte mate.
“Welsh Glens” I’m presuming that’s a person and not a geographical description?
Definitely not for track use!
Driving too hard on the track??? You're on the track! WTF would say that? Are those the folks who also said you're holding your phone wrong?
These tires have great grip. No life. Wore out a set in 12000. Do buy for your daily.
you did better than me mate I wore out my front in about 5-10 laps on a track.
@@ForensicDetailing Wow that’s horrible and expensive. I’ll never buy another Bridgestone tire again.
Спасибо вам за ваш труд🎖❗️Чуть не купил такой Bridgestone на BMW❗️Очень жёстко езжу❗️Только по вашему опыту стало понятно ,что мне такие не подойдут❗️Привет из России 👋😲🇷🇺
Personally wouldn't touch Bridgestone with a barge pole . Michelin PS4 Oon my GTI .
I have PS4 ZP tires on my E63 630i and they make the car floaty. The Potenza RE050 tires used to be more sporty and responsive. Unfortunately they were discontinued.
Pilot Sport 4S cant beat them
Yeh they are a lot more money and they have limited sizes my Mazda has 17s and can't get the ps4s
TPMS monitors are not accurate either,.
Ah Shit. They ran out of ps4s where I am and only has BS protenza sport. Not even delivered to me yet but already have buyers remorse. Not that I had much choice. Coming from falkren fk510 which has gone up in price. Sucks for me
Kumho ps91 if your s track guy
@@ForensicDetailing hello,
Can you tell me please, what do you recomand for a new Passat B8 with 220 hp? 235 45 R18. I only run on the street, but pretty fast.
I have a choice between:
1 Hankook s1 evo3
2 Falken Azenis fk 510
3 Pirelli pz4
4 Kumho ps 71
5 Bridgestone Potenza Sport
6 Nexen NFera sport 2.
Best regards ! 😁
Bono, I have lost the tyres.
- LH
1st
do you have a job?
Zzzz
@@martin1649 Yes, A ‘job’ getting up in the morning I suspect! 🤣
What a stupid video you can’t review these on just one car’s performance all cars are different and different people drive different
Possibly yes.. hence me saying what the review was based on and take it as a finger in the wind. And see tyre reviews for the really good reviews
Speaking in your own words: "What a stupid comment!" This is not a tyre review, this is Jon's personal issue he is experienced and wanted to share with us! Don't like don't watch.... simple....
@@aleksrodinshow would I know if I like it or not before I watch it knob head it’s my opinion keep yours to your self
@@iantitley7116 if you watched the video how come you didn’t hear Jon’s disclaimer, muppet? Of course only your opinion matters, everyone else has to keep it quiet? Don’t tell me or anyone else what to do!
What on earth has this got to do with detailing?Next time I visit a tyre shop I will ask "can I have a haircut please"
nothing but only a real idiot would read the title and think it had something to do with detailing. If you need your hair cut the sign on their premises will say hair dresser or barbers etc.. not tyre shop. this could be the dumbest comment ive ever read in 5 years of doing YT.
@@ForensicDetailing just in case your wondering I got a thumbs up Work it out yourself clever dick
That's one hell of an achievement I'm proud of you champ... Move on now
Seriously???
You're proud of ONE like? 😂 That's pathetic!