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"How Many Calories Should I Consume?" - Jordan Feigenbaum (Barbell Medicine)
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- Опубликовано: 12 мар 2018
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There is only one answer.
ALL OF THEM.
you eat like a fucking madman
shoo dyel shoo
Allan sits there like a schoolboy who has gotten detention at the headmasters office
K Tp naughty* schoolboy
Marine life
-All of them
No longer SS coaches? If so, this belongs in top 10 anime betrayals!
Is that semicolon making anyone else crazy?
cesar avina lol, no
cesar avina everything with powerlifters is got to be European. Romanian this, Yugoslavian that
Now I can't unsee it....
feels like I'm still programming lol
Well everything fat is American and you dont see us complaining ...
Proper nutritions gives you endurance that can talk about nutritious informations for a long time.
Eat everything you come across.
I came across a McDonalds, got three burgars in the drive in.
Passed an ice cream truck, bought four scoops in a cone.
Saw a roadkill deer....
You guys should do more of these.. it’s not like you live in the same state or anything.... hint hint. Great video.
Northern Cali is farther away from southern Cali than most east coast states lol
Strength over abs!
Love the "soft" focus! You guys look so much more shredded!
4:10 - 4:16 alan sneakin in the circle game
Shane Ledbetter HAHA GOT EM!
"Briefly", "Two Minute" Tuesday.
It should be pointed out that these words are relative to Jordon's movement of time.
I’ve been dealing with this problem myself recently. Excited to hear what you guys have to say!
Thanks Alan, always a pleasure to watch your videos, love the way you're mixing it up.
Jordan seems like a fun guy and informative too
Art and nuanced
Dafaq ?!?!?!? 🤨
Jordan is such a long winded & boring arse, arrogant Fuck you can even see Alan falling asleep when he talks !!!!!! 😤
I get why Jordan & Austin (who isn’t half as bad as Jordan) want to be all buddy buddy with Alan.... he is well respected, has a pre-existing RUclips audience & is fairly easily swayed by a logical argument (his ‘this is why Starting Strength sux’ Video is less than two years old... and now he’s certified to teach?!? 😓)....... but I don’t get why Alan keeps slobbering all over their balls.... they are boring, arrogant, talk down to everyone while also saying nothing new (they’re basically “RUclips Fitness Fakes” with Medical Degrees & an ‘entitled Rich White Male’ attitude).
The quicker Barbell Medicine fails, the better. 🖕
Nate Brown great arguments made.
Google Jordan.., hes a gratuated MD...and much much more
You are embarrassing yourself lol.
Hey Jordan - just so's you know, a Knight should be addressed by their First Name. So "Sir Alan" was correct; "Sir Thrall" was not. (OK, so i know Alan's knighthood hasn't come through yet, but it's only matter of time, given that Her Madge is such a big fan of RPE-based training and Death Metal)
This kind of videos is absolutely awesome Alan. Short and super dense in knowledge. If you needed feedback to pursue this idea, there you have it :)
too many cameras-great vid but you guys are always seem to be looking at the wrong camera.
Brent Atkins & Chrys Silvestre Easy, Fellini
I’m really glad you “infidels” spoke out with clear science and math, to help people plan sanely. No one needs to reconcile themselves to the advice in Starting Strength (the Holy scripture) and fear going against “Uncle Rip” (Moses). The nutritional advice there seems mostly tailored to 15 year olds with the metabolism of a hamster. If you’re 40 you can gain strength and will increase in weight and mass, but it doesn’t take 4000 calories a day to sustain it. Since he also looks down on excessive cardio, many of his “disciples” may be on the road to diabetes or at least chronic insulin insensitivity. Once you eat the protein and carbs you need to maintain a slight surplus, your body will do what several million years evolved it to always do in the face of a surplus- store the rest as fat.
Alan with that straight face troll in the intro hahahhaa so good!
4:10 what's on Alan's left hand? Got heeeem
and always remember: FOCUS!
Thank you very much for these quality content ❤️
EXCELLENT video Mr.Thrall
1:43 killed me
Alan is sitting there staring at the wall like omg shutup
Ok but what shoes does Austin wear when deadlifting?
lol jordans "train untaimed" CRACKED ME UP !
New life goal: find me someone who looks at me like Jordan looks at Allan @ 0:55
its dom mazetti's brother
What if we're in an awkward in-between spot, with a little extra fluff at 5'11 and 205lb and 37-38" waist, but not enough muscle mass in the upper body?
What about calculating it like this : 1g for each kg of fat, 2,5g of protein and the rest of your colories as carbs ?
Also please mention about speaking about B6 and all the other stuff which is going to be needed to use the eatn protein.
allan your editing skills are goood
You did it! You did it!
When Jesus himself says "Train Untamed" 😁😁😁😁
When i get nervous at the doctor i breathe exactly like Alan did when they read my heart lmao
“Go ahead and introduce yourself” “uhh hey I’m Jor” “WHO ARE YOU” “oh!, I’m Jordan with” “WHO??!” “...... Jordan with barbell” “TELL THEM WHO THE FUCK YOU ARE GODDAMNIT”
"eat at a calorie surplus to gain weight"
"eat at a calorie deficit to lose weight"
Same thing everyone else said before. What's new?
Star Kino truly a waste of time
Nothings new because that’s they only way to lose your gain weight. If want something new on this topic then go to something snake oil salesmen who sells special weight loss/gain bullshit. At the end of the day it’s always calories in vs calories out, no exceptions.
There is nothing new because nothing has changed. Still seems like a lot of people don't get it, however.
Captain Obscurity he could at least go into a bit more detail about what to eat and when to eat. even if you are in a caloric deficit you can still gain fat and lose muscle mass. e.g. eat nothing during the day and a lb of sugar right before bed.
Not sure you could eat a pound of sugar in addition to 1g protein per lb of body weight while staying in a caloric deficit, though.
Jordan, you dont have a facebush friendly shirt?!?
RESPECT THE BEARD!!!
A huge problem jumping into this, is if you eat completely wild style with zero consistency and you want to change that habit keeping a food journal with the idea of starting while continuing on that path is not good. I mean like, zero consistency, one day eat way too much horrible shit, another day eat real food in sensible portions, another day no food just booze, another day maybe just one candy bar, then jumble that up in any order in any number of times. All I can say is I feel either minutes from deaths door or full of energy, no consistent sleep pattern, in fact working out makes it impossible to sleep. So what I'm getting at it, there should be a journal or channel or something of someone whose shit is totally fucked up trying to get it straight, maybe I could do that.
So weightlifting and cal deficit don't go together?
Vandit Jait You can fill in the blank with any barbell activity and say cal deficit don’t go together. Did you watch the video at all? Your question was covered towards the end
So you can get stronger while losing weight. Can you get stronger and lose muscle at the same time? Or getting stronger is always an indicator of gaining muscle or at least not losing it?
The maximum amount of weight you can move in a certain way also depends on the composition of your muscles and nervous system. So, yes, you can have less muscle and be stronger in a lift that requires the muscle.
Other than increase is a muscle's cross sectional area, but what mechanism does strength increase? Saying this for the "getting stronger on a cut" part.
If you’re in your LP but nearing the end (doing fives around 400 for BS and DL and 275 BP, 175 OHP), and carrying more fat than you’d like can you do “off-day” workouts to minimize the excess calories on those days you don’t train the main lifts?
Starts at 1:36
Where can I find Hydro20 supplement?
*I'm 5'11, 180lbs, with a 41 inch waist and 14 inch biceps. My appearance is the definition of skinny-fat. Guess I gotta power through the belly insecurities and get my numbers up.. Thoughts anyone?*
@Alan Thrall. Question. And this may sound dumb, I'm not sure. But twice in the video its mentioned that a 'decent starting point of Protein amount' is 1 Gram per pound. But the first time, he said Kilogram, and later in the video he said per pound. Can you clarify? Should I really be eating 185g of Protein? (185 lb guy). Or should I be eating 75g of protein (Since I probably weight like...75KG). I know this might be a novice question, but its truly something I've never had clarified. Thank you so much in advance.
Little late but 1g /lb
Hey Jordan, did you used to live in your brother Charlie's house in Malibu with your son Jake?
I understand that you can get stronger and lose body fat at the same time when you are cutting. But do you get stronger faster when you are bulking than when you are cutting? Even when the protein intake is the same?
It depends on many factors, but it tends to be more effective, yes. Strength can be improved by different pathways, and while "skill" doesnt depend much on calorie conditions, "hypertrophy", which provides the potential for more strength, does. Training level, BF%, training play a large role, though: The novice overweight lifter can probably gain a good portion of the strength in a slight deficit of what he could in a surplus, while its very much different in an advanced ripped lifter.
I'm a bit overweight and I tried to cut my calories just a bit and i couldn't lift what I was during the starting strength. How the heck do I keep my gains going when cutting to lose my extra weight
felipe esquivel You might either want to give it some time and see or shift your intake to make sure you have energy for training. If you are just cutting a little you might consider just adding more conditioning. I love hate doing giant sets Alsruhe style, but you will improve far faster in many ways and improve your work capacity. If it has just been less than a few weeks you probably are being a little preemptive and you should see if your strength levels balance out. It often does after a little while and if you can improve your health you will be a step ahead. Better work capacity usually leads to improved strength gains long term. You can use this as an opportunity for more than just shedding a few pounds of excess.
Thanks I did only try it one day and I couldn't do my squats I normally do and felt just drained. I will give it a few weeks to adjust to it. I appreciate the response
Some of it is physical, some of it is mental. You aren't used to it yet for the physical part, but for the mental part... for me it was that I didn't think I'd have the energy for it, so I didn't. Once I got past that, it wasn't so bad. I also go to the gym (generally) in a fasted state, because intermittent fasting and I usually go right after work. I'm also a fatty, so I might have more reserves to work from, lol :D
Olordrin thank you for the response I'm gonna try this all out
Have you read the book? If not, read it.
If you're stalling, then you probably are done with your LP, or you started too heavy.
I try to keep my carbs around 45-50% of daily caloric intake, fats and protein between 25-30%. This seems to strike a good balance. I've done 33/33/33 but that's too hard to maintain and I didn't give me the results I wanted.
The ending...awesome Hahahaha
Should I cut if im a teenager? Serious question. Im bulking right now, and i’ve been doing it for a year. The thing is that i dont want to get obese at some point, but yet I dont want to negatively affect my hormones levels nor growth. What should I do? Keep bulking till im ~25yo, or cut at some point during this ‘phase’?
Nefer Labrada Suárez Lean Bulk and Recomp forever
If you are really fat ...than yes
But most likely you arent eating healthy most of the time like you should so thats a way bigger concern than a little extra chunkyness and eating healthy so nutrient dense+low calorie + high volume+high fiber foods like veggies, fruit, whole grains, seeds etc will get you leaner anyway
Cycle it , Bulk in cold seasons , cut for 3 months in summer .. you'll still be getting more bulking than cutting .
Ben Coley
Or dont do old outdated shit from the 70ies thats retarded and unhealthy
There isnt any benefit to getting overly fat or lean or do real bulking or real cutting unless you are majorly under/overweight
Meh.. Et more whilst you gotta keep ya shirt on , then eat a little less when you get to take it off.. I dont see the problem there ... I'm not talking a change of 30 pouns or whatever , just eat good either way .
I loved this
Alan's attention was elsewhere... classic!
Just awesome 😊
Alan you seem to be tight around the hip you should try foam rolling and strething it.
What's the name of those shoes Jordan was wearing during this video?
Make a favorite workout song video!
A lot of strength coaches - Jordan Feigenbaum included - always say that body recomp (eating at maintenance and gaining muscle + burning fat) is impossible. Yet the same coaches will say "oh yeah, getting stronger on a cut is absolutely possible, no question". Well it can't be both, can it? If it's possible to get stronger while on a caloric deficit, then why wouldn't it be possible to get stronger eating at maintenance? I'm not saying it is, because I haven't tried. I'd just like to understand the logic.
Also, a question the video fails to address and really the only reason I came here: If we want to gain weight, we have to go into a caloric surplus. Okay - but how big of a surplus? 100 calories? 500? So many different opinions on this and I came to hear Jordans.
all cameras focusing on the weights behind the guys...
iriee lol noticed it when I read your comment
Hello jordan, nice to meet you...
"You will be somewhere between 2 to 3.1 grams per bodyweight of protein".
Alan's look says it all about this protein overboard nonsense..
Also.....eat for the intensity of the workout. Low...moderate.... heavy. Will be different daily intakes.
That's a poor strategy, as the caloric expenditure from resistance training is pretty low.
absolutely not
An 8 set heavy heavy strength day vs a 20+ set hypertrophy day, no total carb difference? No difference in intra workout carbs? Yes, I think so.
Short answer: All of them
Any opinions on Nutrisystem?
You look dope man
Before watching the video, I answer the question: Eat a full satisfying meal with plenty of fat content and plenty of protein. Avoid snacking between meals.
Video starts at 1:40
wonderful!
Not trying to be the troll but the only real research I've seen on protein intake shows that for an athletic adult male the most protein the body can synthesize is somehwere between .6-.7 grams per lb of body weight. It's just easier to say "oh 1 gram per lb!" but reality usually isn't that convenient
Its a smart goal as having .3 g per lb of protein more than you technically need is better then not getting enough.
Is it 1gm per kilo body weight of protein or 1gm per pound? I am 180lbs 1gm/lb would put me at 180gms of protein a day... Seems unsustainable. However, I am approximately 80kg so 80gm of protein seems reasonable.
The answer is in the video. 1g/lb or 2-3g/kg.
mysza456 he states both in the video...
Yep, and both are correct. 1 g/lb is 180g for your weight and 2-3g/kg is 160-240g. But personally I think it's a little overkill, something like 1,6g/kg should work just fine during bulk (130g for your weight).
When Ned Flanders says "TREN UNTEMMMED"
Consume all the calories
I need to grow testosterones
the internet always says that you get big arms from deadlifting and benching and squating alone. But why does Alan have small arms then? :S should i train arms extra to get them to grow more?
MisterTForU Don't listen to these "powerlifters" When I was natty I would grow way more with curls then weighted chinups. Brian A. While he's a strong dude don't listen to his advice for size. It's tried and true, 10, 15 rep range for 10 to 20 sets. But do whatever the Fuck you want.
CHAD BEAST thanks for the tips man :o im currently doing stronglifts 5x5. I love it! But i will add arm training too now thanks
Alan has huge arms... Because he is holding more fat than a bodybuilder they dont look so huge but I think they're 45-50 cm range
Mixture of genetics and him doing powerlifting/strongman rather than bodybuilding.
MisterTForU Glad you can get the best of both worlds. Also remember to workout as much as possible without your body crashing. I know dozens of people at my gym who follow all these "special" programs and wonder why they see no progress. Humans in nature would constantly be doing shit not just 1 hour a day. For example everyday do x amount of chinups so that is a normal and easy activity for your body, then hit the gym. But hey this is broscience from some random trainer. ATB.
Jordan is funny as hell!
bulk up do gomad, to shred then switch to skim gomad
The boys are back in town!
I’ve got a more specific question.
What 3 days should we be logging for our journal/log (training or non-training days)?
Should these days be the same every week?
By the way, you guys are outstanding. Keep it going!
calories in, calories out, relevant to your TDEE. to calculate this and your macros, use this calculator and track against it in MyFitnessPal- www.muscleforlife.com/macronutrient-calculator/
Weight gain is not the same as muscle gain. Carbs will make you gain weight not muscle mass. I’m on a high fat and extremely low carb diet regiment and I’ve put on 20lbs of muscle and lost 40lbs of fat. I do strength training 5 days a week. I will eventually add more carbs to my diet when I want to start rounding out a bit and not be so lean, that’s what carbs are good for, adding fat. Healthy fats provide more energy and are healthier than carbs. Anyone who has eaten a plate a pasta will testify that they are immediately sleepy afterwards, but you can eat a steak, 4 eggs, and 12oz of a lean protein shake and not be tired or sluggish afterwards. Everyone is different but this works for me.
Your diet will not work for everyone. Also, excessive calories, whether they come from carbohydrates, protein, or fat, may lead to an increase in the size of body fat deposits.
Dat deep voice at the end...
This thumbnail looks like a before and after of growing a beard
Tbh SS isnt the end all be all. It's really just a decent starting point.
Tbh everyone knows that. It’s in the book.
It's in the TITLE!
In my opinion, IN MY OPINION, consume as many as you want
10 cals for weight loss 15 cals for maintaining 20 cals for weight gain this will work for every one.
No it won't
More.
It all depends on what food you intake, for I was eating 4K calories a day for a month, and didn’t gain crap, then again it was all McDonald’s.
The problem with a lot of protein is trying to have a shit
what if i want to stay the same weight?
cp price maintain calories...
How do I get huge: answer, eat moreHow do I get shredded: eat less.
Saved you some time
That's not what Dr. Eatmore told me!
ultra....funny... and super....good 😎
Whoa, next to you Jordan looks like you do next to Brian Alsruhe.
Easy answer to this question: All of them.
All of them.
start with 3.5k LOL
Are really that big in person or just the angles of camera, cause it looks like you are gonna eat jordan
I feel like the entire video has them out of focus.
Lol that 2.1-31.g of protein/Kg of bodyweight was for athletes dieting down.
Someone bulking does not need anywhere near that amount of protein and the satiating effects may hinder their bulk.
Meh, that hasn't been shown in the literature, rather there is a trend to higher amounts of muscle mass with higher protein intakes and no evidence it prevents weight gain. Further, within the study referenced they discuss athletes gaining weight and protein requirements multiple times. The recommendation stands, in my opinion.
Barbell Medicine its stated in the meta analysis that you referenced...
1 gram per lb of body weight is too much. 0.6g is enough. Too much protein will kill your kidneys. Not worth it, even if more protein does give some tiny advantage.
No, it really isn't. Read the whole paper. Again, the recommendation 1g/lb could be modified to be 1g/lb LBM, but it's still very reasonable. Vitamin B is off base here, obviously
bjsm.bmj.com/content/early/2018/01/18/bjsports-2017-097608
okay then
Also remember you said to eat that much protein for the people bulking, not people dieting down lol.