Training w/ Back Pain, Squatting Everyday, Q&A w/ Austin Baraki & Jordan Feigenbaum
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2017
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0-2:50 Intro
2:51 - 6:01 "What weight should I start at?"
7:15 - 9:33 "What do I do about frequent back pain/injury?"
9:34 - 11:37 "How do I decide exercise selection/variation?"
13:55 - 19:45 "Is Squatting everyday a good choice?"
23:00 - End "How do I determine my 5 rep max?" Women and Training 
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As a long-femured dude, that clip around 6:30 made me feel a whole lot better. My whole life I've been told my squat needs to be more upright, but it's physically impossible for me to squat like someone who's 5'7".
slider292 I've been trying to find my squat forever.
I'm just generalizing to make a point. Obviously, there are exceptions.
Got that right! Glad you found it helpful.
I must say from experience, as a long femured-short torso'd guy with much experience, that this is not necessarily true and will probably end up inhibiting progress in the long run. long femur=long quad=big muscle in comparison to others. That being said, sacrificing knee flexion for hip flexion will limit the progress of the quads which are very important in kinetic balance for this frame. **most of the time you will find relief to your problem by releasing restrictions in the lower leg that restrict the ankle and knee driving forward. once the knee drives forward your hips will too thus allowing the bar to be over mid-foot with an upright posture and more quad activation
Legitimately everything in this response after calling the quad a big muscle is incorrect. Stop.
There's a lot of gold in this video to be mined. Thanks Alan and to Austin and Jordan for allowing you to put this up.
Back pain issues here. Mind was blown when he said, "gain weight." That's not even something I considered, but I am trying to gain strength and the added kCals may indeed help. Thanks for this video. Literally had to stop and absorb the knowledge.
Did it help?
@@littleratblue Her back died.
@@littleratblue Her back is now Tess Holiday, enjoying a successful modeling career.
Austin legs when sitting down on a chair looks MASSIVE.
His forearms :-O
this video was better than expected. I usually don't like seminar type videos but this one was really informative and fun to watch.
I emailed the closest starting strength coach near me to hold a seminar or training camp at her gym. we need more people like this! good info Alan.
KenpachiZarakiX my closest starting strength coach is Alan thrall :) :) :)
Austin and Jordan are awesome.
Would pay to see a Baraki/Feigenbaum buddy cop flick.
yep
Two undercover gym goers going around from gym to gym critiquing and correcting lifting for the great or good!!
@@kimiorahenry179 *greater good
@@TiberiusStorm *grate your could
Where does rip fit into the picture hahah as the cigar chomping angry lieutenant in the office 😂
I especially appreciate the bit about differences between men and women training - would love to hear more about this in the future too, perhaps based on your coaching experience. thanks for putting up this content, as always!
No such thing as a difference between men and women. You must be a white supremacist.
Austin and Jordan and the guys at Barbell Medicine are magicians. Thanks so much Alan for summarizing their seminar
Dude..this stuff is golden
Only do a 5RM if money or a woman is on the line. noted.
Do you mean 5reps at rpe 10? Cause i usually do 5 reps at rpe 8 for safety
@@hungpham4615 I usually do 0 reps at RPE 0 for safety
@@hungpham4615 also, 5rm stands for 5 rep max which means 1 set of 5 at rpe10
Unbelievably jealous of the people involved in the seminar. Thank you, Alan, for uploading this video for those of us like myself who live in Canada or elsewhere in the world and can't be there in person.
You edited this video well. Interesting information.
Physical Therapy is a lot more affordable than most people think. I had a lower back issue that kept getting more painful over the course of a month. When I first injured it, I stayed off of it for a week. Then, just performing standard lower back warms ups would still light it up. I dropped the weight I was lifting (drastically) and change DL from traditional to Sumo style (super light weight), only used hex bar for squats (and did light goblet squats). I wasn't willing to not squat or DL for 4-6 months, as was recommended.
At the advice of a friend, I visited a PT. I paid out of pocket. My intake assessment was $135 and my first half-hour session was $75. After my first session, my back was almost completely fixed. I still performed the reduced loads for a week and, after my second session, my back was fixed.
I pay $75 for a half hour and I see him every two weeks. He has fixed so many things I didn't even know we're wrong. I highly recommend PT.
Wow! The last part on female training sets was fascinating. I always wondered why I experienced better results training at 2-3 reps for 5-6 sets vs a 5x5.
Thanks Brother....I don't comment on videos, but this by far is the most informational and easily digested content on the topic of squatting and pros and cons of squatting everyday.
This stuff is gold. Many thanks.
Ok Alan, I just commented on another video of yours, that it might have been one of the best videos on squats I had seen, but this has been another amazing video! Thanks for the great content that has been coming out!
2017 may see you become the RUclips fitness videos king!
Austin enunciates a bunch of his words exactly like Rippetoe. It makes me chuckle.
Great video, binge watching this channel was an excellent life choice.
Was looking forward to this series, thanks Alan! Can't wait for the subsequent parts; the low bar focused content lately has really shifted my focus and is helping a lot with correcting my form. Much appreciated, thanks!
The woman in purple has such a perfect squat!
That's Leah Lutz. She's a Starting Strength Coach and national level USAPL lifter. She strong as fuark, breh.
***** that explains a lot
yeh! that lady lost smth like 150 lbs just a couple years ago too. p incredible. plus she knows how to cook. superior human
Love the back injury advice. I've had three injuries that ended me up getting surgeries. Disketomy. I'm much better now, but I'm 41, so it's kinda scary to lift. This is the best advice I've heard. Much better than hearing you shouldn't do deadlifts and squats anymore.
These couple of videos are an absolute WEALTH of information. THANK YOU ALAN!
Intersting what he said at 16.34 regarding the other variables at play that people don't like to admit in public....I take it that's ROIDS. I have a friend who was picked to go for our country weightlifting team but quit immediately after they asked him to start taking......
Its awesome to see this more scientific side of training
Amazing video, its so frustrating when people tell you to stay more upright on a low bar squat when you simply cant, and i feel the weight moving straight up yet they tell me to arch my back. This has definetly reinforced my belief in low bar squats, thank you for this video.
These guys know exactly what they're talking about. Thanks for the great content
Wonderful job hosting this, Alan. 👏🏼👏🏼
2:22 I just fixed this after months and I'm so happy about it
Cheers for taking the time to break down the Q & A session Alan!!! You rule! TRAIN UNTAMED!!!!!!
This is gold. Good work man, we all really appreciate the work you went through to make this. More videos like this.
Thanks for the quality share! People seriously need to hear this, wish I was there.
Thank you Alan for spreading the wealth of knowledge and experience!!!
austin and jordan provide some sick insights
great video as usual alan
This is an amazing wealth of knowledge. I sincerely appreciate this video series. Thank you.
Good stuff! Learn so much every time I watch this channel. Thanks for bringing these guys on.
Great video, thanks Alan.
Used to squat a lot but stopped because I found them useless for me ... they stress me out! I’m more of a sumo conventional and Romanian deadlift hip thrust lunge kind of person .. I have long femurs and a shorter torso and I’m 5’61/2” ... anytime I want to hit quads I’ll do a simple front squat not too much weight and focus on single leg movements after that but I always throw a heavy hip thrust in every workout
Can't believe I just discovered this video, there is some good stuff in here man
Excellent content again. I have seen both these guys in podcasts on starting strength, it is good to see the seminar from this perspective.
Austin, Jordan and Leah Lutz too. I wish I'd known this was happening.
thank you so much Allen. I cant wait to attend your awesome seminars!.
I'm going through the SS LP right now ( beginning month 3). Attended a Squat Seminar in Michigan about a month ago and it pointed out many cues I need to focus on. Good stuff.
Why do you have a high bar squat as your picture then? Old pic?
'bout 5 years old. And then I stopped lifting for 4 years and am a decrepit old man now just starting over.
I see. Good luck on journey back under the bar. It's always beneficial to lift.
Oooold comment but where?
Honestly, this was SOO great. Thanks, Alan. You rock.
Awesome. Great content Alan.
These guys are brilliant!! Thank you for uploading and sharing!!!
So much awsome nformation packed into 28 minutes. Thank you
hey Alan, done my first day of your intermediate program but without Olympic lifts. I really enjoyed it. seems put together very well
Excellent video.. Never seen these guys before but will looking for more featuring them. So good to hear actual experts that actually give a shit about other peoples lifts... Other than Alan of course ;)
You changed the frame rate on your camera didn't you? Much better! And also awesome video in general
I read most of the comments, and none addressed this question that i could see, so i apologise if it has been answered already but,
I do train and teach functional training, and develop high level athletes, including myself. I found this video to be informative, different and some tricks to get me to the 1000 lb club before the age of 35. I had to pause during the squats a few times to see why the mechanics look so odd. The major difference to me was the Hip Hinge.
The first movement here is the Hip hinge prior to any knee bend. For the hip hinge, are you engaging your hip flexors to hinge, or more through the rectus abdominis? Not to be confused with just bracing, i mean actively pulling the rib cage forward and fixing the pelvis just to hinge into position.Thanks for your time, Solid vid, i send my clients here for strong man, power clean and those whom enjoy some wholesome sarcastic entertainment. Thumbs up man.
Best wishes and Good health
Derek A. Knight
There is not supposed to be a hip hinge prior to knee flexion, both occur at the same time. Additionally, there is no active muscular contraction pulling the lifter to the bottom of the squat, rather gravity does this just fine.
Even if there is a Micro Second, one happens before the other. Particularly with this technique here.
But this comment did not answer my question, I am wondering Which Muscle is being used here to create the hip hinge, because it looks very abdominal which makes sense, unless there is a soft knee i cant see that's allowing for the hip flexor (rec rem) to preload.
Thank you for your reply.
Derek Knight I'm telling you they happen at the same time ideally so there is not isolated hip flexion with this type of squat. Additionally; there is no volitional force production that initiates the squat. Gravity does this
I never intended to suggest that we pull ourselves down into a squat. When Alan Braces, with the belt just looks like he is in a hip hinge.
Thanks for taking the time to respond with both accounts, I see why the belt is necessary for this technique. I'll pass this video around with my colleagues, if we make a video i'll link it to this discussion and this video. Thanks again gentlemen.
Best wishes and good health,
Derek A. Knight
Great content Alan. Thanks for sharing and cool the guys where happy to share too
I learnt alot from this single video. Cant wait for next parts
17:47 sums it all up. That being said, some good stuff in the vid. Bottom line - keep researching, keep working and you'll get better and your lifts will go up.
Fantastic video, thank you for compiling this and uploading it :D as usual great content!
incredibly informative Alan. thanks a lot! I can only imagine how many things you all were able to learn.
Incredible. I'd love to see more of this.
this is so awesome!
the knowledge!!!
Thanks for putting some of this footage up, Alan! Wish I could've been there for this. Next time!
Alan can you get Jordan to answer this question:
Is squatting heavy with torn meniscus/ arthritis going to worsen these conditions? I've had bilateral ACL reconstruction with meniscal repair/ menisectomy but I re-tore them them on both knees. Is squatting heavy bad for this?
This is insanely informative, thanks Alan these guys are great
I was just reading that Austin went to EVMS. VA shout out!!
Thanks for posting this. Great video. Learned a lot.
Awesome vid and content, looking forward to Parts 2 & 3.
Good stuff! Really helpful insight on back recovery, and knowing if your lifting to much or what not!
Lots of little gems in here!
My back is shit from an incorrectly recovered torn hammy. I squat and dead lift at least three times per week. It’s the only thing that keeps the pain away ironically.
Awesome video - I learned a lot! Thanks again for sharing these.
hey quick ❓ question. where can I go to seminars like this one to check out my work outs, and see if I am doing them correctly ?
This was awesome man. More of this!!
I've been looking forward to this, thanks!
awesome video, Thanks Alan!
hey can you do a vid on dealing with depression and the constant feeling of not being satisfied where your at in life. I see how all you youtube guys have been so successful and doing what you love. ive always heard that you have to take risks in life. could you do a vid on this subject?
Great video Alan!
Best tip I ever for squat is knees and hips breaking at same time.
Nice my balance is the worst and I've been doing this for a while. I've switched to goblet squats simple because my ankle cannot handle a huge load, theres an injury history there as well as I recently discovered scoliosis is what's causing my back pain the goblet squat is better for me on every level.
This is such good information. Thanks for posting!
Notification squat
get it? squat
iSammax WE WANT ALAN JOKES WE WANT ALAN JOKES
This was very beneficial. Thanks Alan!
Thank you Alan, Austin and Jordan! Good info!
Amazing. Thanks. Keep these vids up, the squat is definitely not an easy exercise.
This was awesome! Thanks for sharing.
Should I just go back to lower weight, make myself used to it, and work up to higher weight slowly?
Alan, have you ever thought about becoming a Starting Strength Coach? (I feel this may have been asked already.)
he is one
Awesome, many thanks for posting this.
Just so much freaking info!!!! I love it!!
Seeing a LOT of Comments from long femured guys bitching about their squat... Im 6'2 and pretty long femured, I can high bar squat with pretty perfect form. I would say the key would be to invest in a couple of squat shoes, they make a huge difference. If you dont believe me, just look at someone like Bradley Martyn. About 6'2 and has one of the best high bar squats I've ever seen.
I started Starting Strength a month ago, and I have made amazing gains! Love your stuff, Alan, but I'm just not seeing nearly enough women in your practice. Where are all the strong women?!?
Great video! I wonder at which point women should switch from 3x5 to 5x3 as Dr. F talked about.
When 5s stop working.
Fantastic information all around. Saluted:)
Best vid on youtube!
Barbell Bench always tightens up and fucks up my shoulders so I just stick to ohp and incline dumbell
About training every day and programming to increase strength, there is something that did not add up. In some videos, Alan's video and Omar's video for example, there is an emphasis on volume for increase hypertrophy. Where hypertrophy will lead to more muscle mass to be used for strength output. This was stated in one of Alan's video with a comparison between Volume and Intensity.
So for beginners (0 to 3 years experience), there is a need to be more on the volume side to build up the size of the muscle and then maybe switch to intensity to build up strength when some size is acquired. Now, I would like to add up Omar's input on the frequency of training to support hypertrophy. There, some studies show that training a muscle group twice a week tends to increase the hypertrophy effect than once a week.
So, ideally, we should train muscle groups twice a week in the higher volume end to maximise size. In a classic Push Pull Leg day, this will lead to a 6 days a week training. For Alan's split that revolve around the 4 main compound movement this would give a 8 days a week (which is impossible, I know). This programming have a higher risk for overtraining or plateauing where there is little time for full resting.
This come in contradiction with Austin's and Jordan's comment, where the trainee with higher rest period (2 full day) respond better to muscle stimulus and improve their performance more quickly than those with lower rest period (1 day).
Am I completely out of logic or is their some solution to address that issue ?
Actually all of this works perfectly its a matter of sticking to the program and watching your nutrition
eg-Linear Periodization-Ed Coan
Daily undulating periodization-
Mark rippetoe,Wendler
Block periodization-Chad Wesley,Lillybridges
Concurrent periodization-Loui Simmons
Bulgarian periodization-
Eastern Block lifters
Reverse Pyramid-
granted some of these people might be on drugs but all these things work for naturals as well to varying degrees.
great video, thanks!!
Got 390 5x3 today thank you
I'm loving listening to these guys they're fucking geniuses!
I dig the Rollins poster!
So you should basically save the high bar/front squats until your progress on the low bar squat fades 11:00 ?
Asking you after 3 years. What is your progress now. (Hope you are still training)
Great vid Alan!