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How Sore and Tired Should You Get From Exercise and How-To Adjust Training

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  • Опубликовано: 26 авг 2021
  • In this video, Drs. Baraki and Feigenbaum discuss goals of programming and subsequent adjustments for when training is beating you down.
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Комментарии • 116

  • @damajeinc6295
    @damajeinc6295 3 года назад +59

    Eating my way out of that sounds more fun tbh.

    • @divyansh6574
      @divyansh6574 3 года назад +4

      Homie 🤝🏻

    • @robertlevy4613
      @robertlevy4613 3 года назад +4

      Me too!! I try to eat my way out of it even though it’s not true. Hahahahah.

  • @arstgkneio
    @arstgkneio 3 месяца назад

    Texas Method still catching strays, gotta love it

  • @svmuscle7677
    @svmuscle7677 3 года назад +10

    like they said only time I still get really sore is if I invite a new movement or a spike in volume, but it passes fairly quickly

  • @SchuyFit
    @SchuyFit 3 года назад +5

    This is a really great discussion. It's so dang important to listen to the cues your body is giving you and to know what to do with them. Sadly, most people are so out of touch with their body it's hard to know what it's saying.

  • @dripshameless5605
    @dripshameless5605 3 года назад +59

    Greg Doucette would burst an aneurysm if he heard this lmao. But then again... these ARE actual doctors ;)

    • @ssholum
      @ssholum 3 года назад +5

      Not that I don't appreciate a jab at Greg here and there, but how so? He literally says if you're too sore from training to go easier than last time.

    • @dripshameless5605
      @dripshameless5605 3 года назад +13

      @@ssholum And he also stresses to his audience that they go hard at the gym, hard enough where you should have no reps left in the tank... ergo RPE 10, in every training session. Even if he does then backtrack and tell people to go easier, his message is inconsistent.

    • @nichols8924
      @nichols8924 3 года назад +7

      @@dripshameless5605 I hear what you're saying. I think he's meaning to target different types of people with certain messaging. A lot of people train nowhere near as hard as they need to while others probably train too hard. He doesn't always make it very clear which group of people he's refering to when he says "train harder than last time".

    • @dripshameless5605
      @dripshameless5605 3 года назад +7

      @@nichols8924 Agreed! But that's exactly my point, his messaging is incredibly non-specific and in reality, the VAST majority of his viewers will be people who don't quite know what category they fall in (and just plain "push harder" is technically a mentality which anyone at any level can adopt. Sounds nice for a meathead mentality and maybe letting yourself feel badass but like these two just said in terms of long-term gains, it's far from ideal). In the realm of YT lifting, these two are awesome for info, Greg and others are much more just entertainment (not trying to diss them).

    • @nichols8924
      @nichols8924 3 года назад +8

      @@dripshameless5605 I totally agree. I like Greg's videos for entertainment purposes, but for actually programming and lifting advice, it's resources like Barbell Medicine and Calgary Barbell all the way. Training harder than last time and constantly getting injured is how I ended up finding Barbell Medicine in the first place. Would of been nice to find this channel way before that.

  • @ysiadpir1423
    @ysiadpir1423 3 года назад +26

    When life is beating you down... Comment for the algorithm...

  • @pureruckuspower2165
    @pureruckuspower2165 3 года назад +8

    I dont get sore muscle wise much anymore. Except when I add a new movement i havent done in a while. But that novel soreness doesnt last. And its not terrible
    But I get terrible mental fatigue sometimes. I would rather have the muscle soreness lol

  • @Parker_Miller_M.S.
    @Parker_Miller_M.S. 3 года назад +9

    Hey Doc's couple questions for ya.
    1: Any idea when the next Illinois/st. Louis seminar will be? I'd definitely love to attend!
    2: How's the progress with the nutrition book and BBM certification coming along? Maybe I've missed updates but I haven't heard about them in a while.
    Thanks for all you guys do!

  • @PlasmaFuzer
    @PlasmaFuzer 3 года назад +1

    Living legends right here folks

  • @louderthangod
    @louderthangod Год назад +2

    I tried a BBM program and was extremely sore. My RPE 8 or 9 seems to truly be 1-2 reps left but trying to squat with their estimated percentages twice in a week like that is a no-go. Maybe I need more volume work at lower %’s, I’m really not sure but squats especially is a rough recovery with 3-5 days of soreness. I’m 49 so I figure that plays a role and I squat on the slightly heavier side for the average person my age (505 1rm recently).

  • @LesterRafael
    @LesterRafael 3 года назад +8

    I was expecting somewhere along the lines of "What are you going to do? Not train?"

  • @bradekegren1723
    @bradekegren1723 3 года назад +68

    According to Rippetoe, you can eat your way out of every single training issue known to man LMFAO

    • @alphaomega6023
      @alphaomega6023 3 года назад +14

      Well, if you gain 20lbs in 2 months I'm sure you will be able to add at least 2.5lbs to your squat 😂😂

    • @bradekegren1723
      @bradekegren1723 3 года назад +2

      @@alphaomega6023 😂🤣😅

    • @PlasmaFuzer
      @PlasmaFuzer 3 года назад +3

      Just GOMAD bro!!!

    • @bradekegren1723
      @bradekegren1723 3 года назад +8

      @@PlasmaFuzer EVERYONE needs a gallon of milk a day. If you’re not obese, you’re doing something wrong lol

    • @theparadisesnare
      @theparadisesnare 3 года назад +5

      One of the many reasons why barbell medicine was born lol

  • @md.arifulislam3616
    @md.arifulislam3616 2 года назад

    Thanks

  • @anthonyfischer6444
    @anthonyfischer6444 3 года назад +2

    I feel like this has been answered multiple times. I haven't even watched the video yet, but after being a follower for over a year, I can probably sum it up:. Soreness/tiredness is not a good metric to gauge progress. You can go your entire LP without being "sore". Hit prescribed RPEs, eat enough, get good sleep, manage stress, repeat.

    • @BarbellMedicine
      @BarbellMedicine  3 года назад +5

      That's not what this particular video is about. Give it a watch :)

    • @RonSwansonIsMyGod
      @RonSwansonIsMyGod 2 года назад +1

      Actually the answer is "something something, nuance, something something......"

  • @mdharun366
    @mdharun366 2 года назад

    Excellent job

  • @md.arifulislam3616
    @md.arifulislam3616 2 года назад

    Very well video

  • @sazzadrahaman3436
    @sazzadrahaman3436 2 года назад

    Wonderful

  • @sujonshahofficial2572
    @sujonshahofficial2572 2 года назад

    Good job

  • @bmeti9851
    @bmeti9851 2 года назад

    nice work.....

  • @md.arifulislam3616
    @md.arifulislam3616 2 года назад

    So good

  • @MrJahid-yh3ss
    @MrJahid-yh3ss 2 года назад

    - Great Work👍👍

  • @anikaamma8366
    @anikaamma8366 2 года назад

    That's a good idea

  • @anupdas5547
    @anupdas5547 2 года назад

    Amazing video

  • @like2ROLL
    @like2ROLL 3 года назад +9

    My hamstrings have been sore every day for the last 2 years.

    • @kennethg9277
      @kennethg9277 3 года назад +7

      A: too much, do less
      B: not enough, do more
      Try option a then b,.. or b then a
      That'll be $1,000 please
      edit: Will accept cake in lieu

    • @like2ROLL
      @like2ROLL 3 года назад +1

      B has been the most effective at managing it, but it doesnt go away. It's fine and doesnt effect my life. Just something I have noticed.
      Not sure where you are located but you are invited to my kids bday party for cake.

    • @kennethg9277
      @kennethg9277 3 года назад +1

      @@like2ROLL too kind 😀

    • @josetomas5018
      @josetomas5018 2 года назад +1

      @@like2ROLL same with me, actually is quinda crazy because I can beat the hell out of my quadriceps and dont get sore, but 4 sets of something involving my hams and Im done

    • @Watchingvids01
      @Watchingvids01 10 месяцев назад

      @@josetomas5018relatable lol

  • @bdbusslowmotion
    @bdbusslowmotion 2 года назад

    Super

  • @johnconstantine2220
    @johnconstantine2220 2 года назад +1

    I am doing Texas method. Sometimes I have paralyzing DOMS in adductors for 4 days. Recovery day helps to speed up recovery but is very difficult to do (warming up bodyweight squats feel intiminating). On the other hand I've noticed that if I skip recovery day I will be tight and sore 5-7 days and will not be able to performe intensity deadlifts. Sometimes I think in the bottom of the squat my adductors will snap or cramp. I am tracking my macros it is still early to say but it seems higher protein intake (at least 1.8 g/kg of BW) have slight benefitial impact (sleep and power naping seems to not have that impact on recovery for this kind of DOMS). But I have month of tracking data (4 volume sessions) so it is early to tell. I am doing Texas metod for months, it's sucks but I always manage to go trough soreness and pain.

    • @josetomas5018
      @josetomas5018 Год назад

      U have any recommendations I'm the same boat, currently activating adductor with rubber band previous squat it's helping also doing some strenght work in the cable station for the adductors at the end

    • @johnconstantine2220
      @johnconstantine2220 Год назад +1

      @@josetomas5018 what helped me is that I am not doing Texas method anymore. I still squat 2-3 times a week but with different intensity and volume. Volume day consist of 1 top set x 5, and them 3 drop sets x 5 (drop sets are 85-90 % of top set... I am still making good progress. If something is always wrong then good chance is that program is not right for you.

  • @bmsaddamhossain3262
    @bmsaddamhossain3262 2 года назад

    Nice..

  • @smraihan9283
    @smraihan9283 2 года назад

    Helpfull video

  • @md.shayadhossain3551
    @md.shayadhossain3551 2 года назад

    Perfect

  • @isanurhossn1904
    @isanurhossn1904 2 года назад

    Nice videos

  • @robertlevy4613
    @robertlevy4613 3 года назад

    Thanks for more content!

  • @saddamsami1129
    @saddamsami1129 2 года назад

    Good

  • @titohasan4644
    @titohasan4644 2 года назад

    Nice video

  • @mkhumayunkabir1272
    @mkhumayunkabir1272 2 года назад

    Vary good

  • @sharifhasan4915
    @sharifhasan4915 2 года назад

    Nice video bro

  • @mdborhan2690
    @mdborhan2690 2 года назад

    good

  • @abdullayt588
    @abdullayt588 2 года назад

    nice

  • @mrfluckoff4273
    @mrfluckoff4273 3 года назад

    Exquisite

  • @rayhan3654
    @rayhan3654 3 года назад +4

    Great video, I've literally been wondering about this very problem this week.
    ... What would you recommend for recovery periods? How many days per week; I understand that this is all subjective and requires independent conjecture, criticism and refinement, but what can be said about the standards of resting? How long do our muscles need before being re-engaged in weight training?!

    • @Worlds.Strongest.Mauro10
      @Worlds.Strongest.Mauro10 3 года назад +6

      You can train everyday, as long as volume/intensity/frequency is approximately dosed, and you gradually expose yourself to stimulus

  • @sarenakopcie9457
    @sarenakopcie9457 3 года назад +2

    Forces at work 😘🙈

  • @farukahmed7263
    @farukahmed7263 2 года назад

    Beautiful

  • @buenavista62
    @buenavista62 3 года назад

    Outro music?

  • @cobra4961
    @cobra4961 Год назад

    Texas Method was the worst shot I've put myself through. Starting Strength was fun learning then the intermediate part and on was complete waste of time lol. I train once or twice a week intensely to failure, slow controlled and it's actually 90 minutes a week or less. Ain't going back just to mention I look like I train now lol

  • @humayunkabirrony614
    @humayunkabirrony614 2 года назад

    Wow

  • @scottcampbell8841
    @scottcampbell8841 Год назад

    Austin's face.

  • @burtjardin7663
    @burtjardin7663 2 года назад

    do you train 3 or 4 times a week?

  • @paulio7250
    @paulio7250 2 года назад

    Love the content! For the algo hahaha

  • @surayaibrahim1164
    @surayaibrahim1164 2 года назад

    Beautiful ❤💝

  • @aerialdude
    @aerialdude 2 года назад

    After a long layoff (2 years) I just got back into things. I'm doing NLP again and I'm feeling super beat up after only a week! Like really beat up, more so than the first time I did NLP. But I'm only a week in so I have a hard time with the idea that I need to adjust the programming. It's mainly deadlifts that are killing me, I think I need to back them off to every other session (as is prescribed in SS after a few weeks). I think the issue is I still have some strength built up from before the layoff, so I'm starting at higher numbers and taking bigger jumps compared to the first time around doing NLP, but at the same time I'm so out of shape in general that I'm having trouble recovering. Any advice?
    Edit/Update: I think my recovery ability (or my body's capacity, or whatever the right word is) is finally catching up. I'm starting to feel better, and I haven't changed the programming at all.

    • @GeneralSouL99
      @GeneralSouL99 2 года назад

      Try to avoid grinding your reps. Better start with a too low weight and give your body time to adjust. Once you can´t get stronger by just adding weight (without grinding the reps too hard), instead of just adding more weight i would slowly increase the volume, and maybe also play around with higher rep areas(for the bench for example).
      There you can also add more variations instead of just the basic lifts. Basically just try to become an overall developed athlete instead of forcing the next PR (while also maybe getting injured, feeling bad etc.)

    • @GeneralSouL99
      @GeneralSouL99 2 года назад

      Focus on gaining more muscle while also getting consistent with your lifting technique and training routine. You will realise that its hard to avoid getting stronger, if you are consistent and train the basic lifts regulary (in any variation).

    • @cobra4961
      @cobra4961 Год назад

      My brother get out of it, train intensely till failure one or two sets. Once or twice a week you'll thank yourself later. For a decade I beat myself up to find out nobody cares about my squat or bench.. Good luck

  • @royalnirob1504
    @royalnirob1504 2 года назад

    Sai

  • @merajhossain4715
    @merajhossain4715 2 года назад

    Beautiful 💞

  • @M.Frees.S
    @M.Frees.S 2 года назад

    Hey do you have any thoughts on training barefoot. Ray mcclanahan and Chris duffin has some compelling argument on that subject, but I can't help wondering if it is more nuanced 🧐.

  • @Zaeyrus
    @Zaeyrus 3 года назад

    What do you have to do in order to be out for 2 days?? :D :D

    • @PinataOblongata
      @PinataOblongata 3 года назад +1

      Just be of a certain age and train normally :(

    • @Zaeyrus
      @Zaeyrus 3 года назад +1

      @@PinataOblongata i am a noob, a month ago started barbell medicines 'beginners program', in fitness a bit more than 6 months and I cant recall ever being that sore. Btw, did i mention i am 36? I feel muscle soreness every time after training, sometimes for more than 2 days, but never i was unable to function, can recall doing some heavy labour day after heavy training

    • @aumurphy
      @aumurphy 2 года назад +1

      @@Zaeyrus I started The Bridge a week ago and am definitely sore today. It should pass as your body adapts to the new demands. Nice thing about RPE is that if you don’t feel fully recovered, you can account for that in your training that day.

    • @Zaeyrus
      @Zaeyrus 2 года назад

      @@aumurphy good for you! I am planing to switch to bridge in a couple of weeks, after i am confident with my current lifts. I can say that the more time goes on my recovery time seems shorter and shorter

  • @mrjoshuagordon
    @mrjoshuagordon 3 года назад +4

    This is only true for strength training. Go ride 150 miles on a bike and tell me your not laid out for a few days

    • @viggoolofsson4779
      @viggoolofsson4779 3 года назад +4

      Not productive. Manage volume like they said

    • @SuperNagz
      @SuperNagz 3 года назад

      I agree Joshua. I’m certainl however that they’re speaking from a strength training perspective. I don’t imagine either of them will be out doing threshold marathon race training any time ever.

    • @BarbellMedicine
      @BarbellMedicine  3 года назад +12

      I rode a century and squatted the next day. Additionally, most of your training endurance, strength, or otherwise should not prevent you from training again in short order. If so, the programming needs adjustment. Some competitions or tests may produce a lot of fatigue compared to the potential fitness adaptation, but those should not be regular parts of training.

    • @aumurphy
      @aumurphy 2 года назад +4

      If you were adapted to riding 150 miles on a bike, you would feel fine. You’d have to quit your job and just do that all the time though

  • @mattc4266
    @mattc4266 2 года назад +1

    Why do you guys sell amino acids ?!

    • @glennmuir5617
      @glennmuir5617 2 года назад +2

      Because just taking money out of your wallet is theft so they sell you something to make it legal.

  • @emonkhan1221
    @emonkhan1221 2 года назад

    😱🤲🥰😘😔

  • @ismilehossen7645
    @ismilehossen7645 2 года назад

    Beautiful😍 baby

  • @md.abdullahal-mamun5936
    @md.abdullahal-mamun5936 2 года назад

    Thanks

  • @asikulislam3585
    @asikulislam3585 2 года назад

    Good

  • @MehediHasan-vz2pl
    @MehediHasan-vz2pl 2 года назад

    Beautiful

  • @mokulmahi3661
    @mokulmahi3661 2 года назад

    Wow