Great job, Morgan. I test rode one a few weeks back and was impressed. The Low Rider ST or the Road King Special are calling my name. Never thought I'd say it, but a Harley-Davidson is in my future.
@@jackchristodoulou197 Mind sharing your thought process? At 6’6”, the RKS is definitely the more comfortable choice. ST would be a bit more lively in the twisties, but honestly, there are better bikes than H-D should that be the aim. I’m coming from a KTM 1290 Super Adventure R, so either bike will be a big change in riding style.
@@LanceEJones I have owned many bikes but never owned a Harley currently ride a Bonnieville T120, at 59 years old thinking of buying my first Harley which I want to make my last Harley the RKS does seem to a long term bike and first choice but to be honest they are bloody expensive
At 2 minutes 18 seconds you perfectly described the original road glide at 735 lb. As a 59-year-old rider I don't want a 900 lb Harley I want a 730 lb Harley with all the stuff my old one has the lowrider St looks like a fine bike it should have GPS and a stereo
I agree!....I currently have a road glide with the tour trunk and at my age now, I find it is getting a bit too heavy at 900 lbs. The low rider ST would be a great choice with the lighter weight, but would love for it to have the infotainment system.
With loud pipes, loud cities and EV cars people like quiet. 1980-90’s boom boxes are so old school. Just like loud radios in cars, obnoxious. Cardo and Senna make make music, nav, and passengers/friend communication so easy. Plus electronics date the bike. I like the road king, minimalistic with no radios to date bike. Always classic
When King of the Baggers started and the Mother-ship recognized enthusiasts were overwhelmed with this style ,,,they took notice and glad they did,,,now if we could go back to custom ordering them to our liking from the factory....:)
I agree with your disagreement about infotainment! The whole reason I want a full fairing is to keep the wind down and get a good sound system so I can enjoy my music on those long rides. I am an Indian challenger owner and would strongly consider trading in for this bike if it had comparable infotainment and sound system.
I agree with you on the infotainment system. I currently ride a '14 Ultra Classic, and am considering the Low Rider ST as a replacement, but would really like more info up front. An in-between system might be the answer. Better instrument display and a bit of connectivity, might push me over the other side of the fence. As a 5'7" rider, the low seat and 200lb lighter weight, is very appealing.
Seems like they could take some of your advice and offer a Lowrider LX version, with some faring upgrades, windshield and some forward controls options.
I like the review 👍🏽 Most reviewers are like kids that are being handed a brand new toy and see nothing wrong with it. I watched the video beginning to end and it was an honest review. Keep up the good work. New subscriber ✅
So let me get this straight, Harley doesn't think sports touring riders want amenities ? My 2012 Honda ST 1300 seems light years ahead at 10 years old.
As always, great, objective review, Morgan. Cool bike, for sure; although given the price, if I were in the market for a touring bike (even if only occasionally), I'd opt for a bagger (RKS, as others have noted). Yes, the 117 is all the rage, but the difference between it and the 114 is so friggin' minuscule, I'd rather spend the extra moola and have the touring frame and the RDRS. You can't get the RDRS on any Softail, and I'd rather spend the money on a safety feature than add $1K for the stereo on the Lowrider ST.
Doesn't matter. After the first year with my 2015 road glide I realized 2 things. It handled better with the vents open. And the vent latches will not last more than 500 miles before they break.
The Nightster isn't a failure, it's the third step into the future and a great bike when you look at it without decades of baggage in front of your eyes... The only people fussing about it are Big Twin snobs, don't be one of those
I think that's so badass! My dream bike if... HD put Traction Control, Riding Modes, minimum. I would wish too a big TFT dash and, maybe, a GPS. Nice Red Wings Boots, Mr. Morgan Gales! You're very tall. I would like to see you in a F1 car. 🤣
Sa a European Person: The full size display is not wanted,. it is looking obsolete. a small iPhone horizontally mounted is my navigation, music station with headset. I think HD is right not installing a full size infotainment. Also, I have a Sport Glide and this fairing is a must have. I have a 107 and the power is enough. And I have to get this fairing mounted. Sport Glide comes with forward control, and replace the pegs with hex boards is a huge plus. Dealer told me already the parts for the fairing will be about 3000 Euro. Plus adoption of the steering header mount. If you have no HD and you are new to HD and have some riding experience, this is the bike for you. Much more agile than the heavy touring bikes. You can really blast and spend long time on the bike.
I love that bike but I wouldn't want it if it had all the touchscreen smart screen Gizmo things this guy is talking about it would be a total deal breaker. This bike is good the way it is stripped down
I definitely want the infotainment. So I’m mounting a galaxy active 3 with a handlebar controller.. it’s actually be better than the Harley version because it’s android and you can link to obd2 and pull everything off the ecm
2:05 you’re asking for luxuries and amenities that add weight but you want it light and ready to rip. This is a raw bike. I don’t want any of that, nor do I want TC.
Just another sign of how clueless Harley has become. As boomers age out of motorcycles they keep building for us. Sure, a guy my age might not want infotainment but, like me, he may not even be able to ride anymore. Just like in every other case, children are the future. Pull your head out of your Boomer mindset and build bikes for people who think of the Vietnam war the way I think of WWI. People who don’t want to spend their free time tinkering, fixing the weak springs, fixing this and upgrading that like owning a Harley has always been. Like the guy said when I bought my Roadgilde, this is just the starting point, make it your own. Which I proceeded to do and yes, I loved that bike. This bike is half way, just finish the job and build a bike for a young person who doesn’t (always) have grease under their fingernails but still wants that undefinable Harley magic.
HD could have won me (and many others) over with this bike had they added the info-tainment display. What an incredibly poor product management decision. #fail.
Be nice if Harley made bikes for people other than midgets these days..How tall is this guy? His knees are almost hitting his friggin elbows ..It was tight before they went this new frame..these new frames forget about it if your close to 6ft or over...even the baggers are too damn tight
Agree with you. Harleys are ideal for short riders. I am only 5’11 and I do not feel well even on baggers not even thinking about low rider ST. Knees above hips mean discomfort.
I disagree with the statement that customers want the infotainment setup. This is not designed for the touring crowd, it obviously is designed for the customer that likes club style dynas with fxrt fairings.
Different sized bags.. No thanks, bike looks hidious from the back. Why didn't harley make the left side bag the same size as the right?? Make the back look symmetrical the mind boggles. Personally I think harley should stick to what they do best.. Tee shirts and hoodies. Cheers
Harley really missed the mark on the inside of the fairing . Should have put and updated lcd instrument cluster GPS and radio . Looks like they just slapped on a aftermarket fairing. .
No modes needed. Power to weight improved where stage 2-4 not needed. Horsepower should come from the factory stock as engine mods the most expensive. Car manufacturers as well as many Motorcycles Manufacturers offer more horsepower, electronics, and new paint every year. Harley only offered fancy named paint every year. People buy used vs new which does not help the Motor company.
I like the hair! That fairing is atrocious and it should have been kept in the 80’s. Everything else about the bike is right up my alley. I agree that the screen would be nice. I really don’t think Harley knows its current customer base at all.
I have many types of bikes. And nobody is going to convince me that my FXLRST is going to scrape the bags. Enough of the lean angle talk. You’ll peg out before scraping the bags.
Wow...I gotta say this was a miss for me. I rode it today and disagree 100% on much. Super weird seating. It felt like I was on a lawn chair on top of the frame. I felt really really disconnected. Suspension was the best I've felt for any Harley going over bumps...at the expense of handling It felt so mushy with no road feel. Throttle was smooth, but there was some drive line lag so kinda disconnected with super long shift action needed to change gears. Brakes..were okay..but long push to get he back brake to do anything.... Styling was good. Overall the sum was less than the parts. A surprising miss in my book.
your seating positon looks ridiculous, uncomfortable with knees pointing to the sky, the original fxrt had better seating and passenger also, with footpegs, music came with the bike, sissy bar, safety bars as well as highway pegs, better hard bags, larger fairing, and full instruments, .. they tried harder then for the customer, now they want u to buy the bike, with next to nothing on it,then spend a pile of money outfitting it with what should be standard equipment, and then some, .. I wont call harley tight arse barstads cos that would be rude....
Oh harley… i just dont know what they are thinking, the demographic that would want this bike cant afford it or wouldn’t spend the money, and the bike that was suppose to get that young demographic is also over priced (sporster) i just dont get it.
You may not get ''it'', but thousands of others do get ''it'' since every one of these bikes is pre-sold and many are paying way over list just to get one. Obviously, H.D. knows a lot more about their demographics than you.
@@renatomarana3716 like everything the early adopters will come but consistency is king with these bikes i remember when the vrod and the street came out it was the same Thing and look at were they are now???
@@gigi9467 other brands don't sell their bikes when they hit the showroom. Just saying that HD does something right with the new management. Also the icons bike and pan America sold as soon as they hit the showroom. Previous management made a mess but the German dude is doing a great job. Respect for HD re-inventing theirselves.
Harley is just making so many bad design choices. The fairing is great and retro... they they destroy the look with those HORRIBLE asymmetrical bags. They aren't "eh", they are butt ugly. I personally know 3 people that loved the pictures, went to check them out (one ordered one and went to pick it up) and all three said "no way" when they saw it. The bags turned all three off. One is still considering getting one but changing the exhaust and bags immediately. Its one thing to customize your bike and it's another to feel you need to because you hate so.wthing about the bike. It's buying a bike with a 2-3k higher price tag to start NO ONE likes the asymmetrical bags. I mean NO ONE. BTW in general I never watch your reviews because they are always just an exercise in ass kissing of advertisers.
Great job, Morgan. I test rode one a few weeks back and was impressed. The Low Rider ST or the Road King Special are calling my name. Never thought I'd say it, but a Harley-Davidson is in my future.
I am thinking the same as you
@@jackchristodoulou197 Mind sharing your thought process? At 6’6”, the RKS is definitely the more comfortable choice. ST would be a bit more lively in the twisties, but honestly, there are better bikes than H-D should that be the aim. I’m coming from a KTM 1290 Super Adventure R, so either bike will be a big change in riding style.
@@LanceEJones I have owned many bikes but never owned a Harley currently ride a Bonnieville T120, at 59 years old thinking of buying my first Harley which I want to make my last Harley the RKS does seem to a long term bike and first choice but to be honest they are bloody expensive
At 2 minutes 18 seconds you perfectly described the original road glide at 735 lb. As a 59-year-old rider I don't want a 900 lb Harley I want a 730 lb Harley with all the stuff my old one has the lowrider St looks like a fine bike it should have GPS and a stereo
I agree!....I currently have a road glide with the tour trunk and at my age now, I find it is getting a bit too heavy at 900 lbs.
The low rider ST would be a great choice with the lighter weight, but would love for it to have the infotainment system.
@@roypavao7498 a nice set of lowers wouldn't hurt
This is the one "newer Harley" that I MIGHT consider trading up my 2011 dyna street bob for. I'd for sure wait for the hype to die down first though.
With loud pipes, loud cities and EV cars people like quiet. 1980-90’s boom boxes are so old school. Just like loud radios in cars, obnoxious. Cardo and Senna make make music, nav, and passengers/friend communication so easy. Plus electronics date the bike. I like the road king, minimalistic with no radios to date bike. Always classic
I'd rather just listen to music with speakers I put in my helmet or use ear buds. Just seems like an asshole move to blast my music lol
Forwards are best for me. I like the frame-mounted fairing. And, that gray is cool too.
When King of the Baggers started and the Mother-ship recognized enthusiasts were overwhelmed with this style ,,,they took notice and glad they did,,,now if we could go back to custom ordering them to our liking from the factory....:)
so freaking stoked for my ST, on its way to my dealer now. Defiently gonna have to figure out how to get more leg room outta it.
I put forward controls on my 2020 , fits me much better.
I agree with your disagreement about infotainment! The whole reason I want a full fairing is to keep the wind down and get a good sound system so I can enjoy my music on those long rides. I am an Indian challenger owner and would strongly consider trading in for this bike if it had comparable infotainment and sound system.
The accessory Rockford Fosgate Audio cranks 125 watts per channel crystal clear at 80mph with a full face on
Nice to see a taller rider on this bike. Confirms my suspicion that it’s not a good fit for people over 6’. Looking for a Road King Special instead.
Yeah I noticed that too. Looks very cramped and awkward
I agree with you on the infotainment system. I currently ride a '14 Ultra Classic, and am considering the Low Rider ST as a replacement, but would really like more info up front. An in-between system might be the answer. Better instrument display and a bit of connectivity, might push me over the other side of the fence.
As a 5'7" rider, the low seat and 200lb lighter weight, is very appealing.
Seems like they could take some of your advice and offer a Lowrider LX version, with some faring upgrades, windshield and some forward controls options.
Good lookin scoot. I dig the minimalist vibe.
Never liked the 'Road Glide' fairing rigs.....but this kinda grows on me.
I like the review 👍🏽
Most reviewers are like kids that are being handed a brand new toy and see nothing wrong with it. I watched the video beginning to end and it was an honest review. Keep up the good work.
New subscriber ✅
This is the best bike Harley has ever built. Hands down.
Duel disc on front wheel, thats nice like the old superglide.
This bike with forward controls!!!
Probably the best review I’ve seen, thanks for such great content! ✌️
this is what the sport glide should have been, bigger motor, more functional fairing, dual discs up front.
So let me get this straight, Harley doesn't think sports touring riders want amenities ?
My 2012 Honda ST 1300 seems light years ahead at 10 years old.
Just ordered one. Can’t wait.
As always, great, objective review, Morgan. Cool bike, for sure; although given the price, if I were in the market for a touring bike (even if only occasionally), I'd opt for a bagger (RKS, as others have noted). Yes, the 117 is all the rage, but the difference between it and the 114 is so friggin' minuscule, I'd rather spend the extra moola and have the touring frame and the RDRS. You can't get the RDRS on any Softail, and I'd rather spend the money on a safety feature than add $1K for the stereo on the Lowrider ST.
I've got three Ducati's but I'm seriously wanting this Harley.
Can't close the top fairing Vent ...well done Harley ..
Doesn't matter. After the first year with my 2015 road glide I realized 2 things. It handled better with the vents open. And the vent latches will not last more than 500 miles before they break.
After seeing so much of the Nightster failure lately, happy to see this bike, which is awesome!
The Nightster isn't a failure, it's the third step into the future and a great bike when you look at it without decades of baggage in front of your eyes... The only people fussing about it are Big Twin snobs, don't be one of those
If I had a truckload of money, I would buy one in a heartbeat. But I would also buy a lot of other stuff, too.
Top video and presentation. Video, content, and script spot on.
Awesome review. Went out and bought one. In Vivid Black.
The bags hides the shocks that are not there, nice touch
Your reviews are the best! You really get the eat, sleep and breathe motorcycle guys. 👍
Why don't you ask him out on a date then you could kiss his arse in person.
I think that's so badass!
My dream bike if... HD put Traction Control, Riding Modes, minimum. I would wish too a big TFT dash and, maybe, a GPS.
Nice Red Wings Boots, Mr. Morgan Gales! You're very tall. I would like to see you in a F1 car. 🤣
Keep it light. I like it. Luv u marge
For the price of the Low Rider ST I would rather buy an entry level touring model any day.
I agree with you on the infotainment upgrade. If this was upgraded I would trade may Street Glide Special for it.
Love this bike so much. I wanted the RKS for the longest but looks like this will sit well next to my sporty. Nothing like an air cooled threesome
Good review. Thanks
Nice job. Up in MN we won’t see them until July.
AKA it has a 117 but will cost you 4 more K to keep up to an Indian Challenger just saying.
This could be my first Harley i need to ride this and the Indian Super Chief limited and figure it out Great review by the way
Mines coming 6/30/22 after waiting two months.
Sa a European Person: The full size display is not wanted,. it is looking obsolete. a small iPhone horizontally mounted is my navigation, music station with headset. I think HD is right not installing a full size infotainment. Also, I have a Sport Glide and this fairing is a must have. I have a 107 and the power is enough. And I have to get this fairing mounted. Sport Glide comes with forward control, and replace the pegs with hex boards is a huge plus. Dealer told me already the parts for the fairing will be about 3000 Euro. Plus adoption of the steering header mount. If you have no HD and you are new to HD and have some riding experience, this is the bike for you. Much more agile than the heavy touring bikes. You can really blast and spend long time on the bike.
I love that bike but I wouldn't want it if it had all the touchscreen smart screen Gizmo things this guy is talking about it would be a total deal breaker. This bike is good the way it is stripped down
miss the two gas caps on the tank.
Well done!
I am between this, the Road King or Softtail Heritage
I definitely want the infotainment. So I’m mounting a galaxy active 3 with a handlebar controller.. it’s actually be better than the Harley version because it’s android and you can link to obd2 and pull everything off the ecm
I'd rather get the regular Lowrider S and put some symmetrical bags on it.
I think the bike is great. Also, sounds like you are wanting a touring bike.
BEAUTIFUL ~~~
Is this HD Low Rider ST best for daily ride? What do you think?
Looks so damn cool
Harley please add RDRS to this bike and take my money
Good reviews
2:05 you’re asking for luxuries and amenities that add weight but you want it light and ready to rip. This is a raw bike. I don’t want any of that, nor do I want TC.
Nice one.
Will an XL full-face helmet fit in that saddlebag?
Love the look but I can't justify that price.
Agree 100%
Nice 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Rdrs available for this??
Just another sign of how clueless Harley has become. As boomers age out of motorcycles they keep building for us. Sure, a guy my age might not want infotainment but, like me, he may not even be able to ride anymore. Just like in every other case, children are the future. Pull your head out of your Boomer mindset and build bikes for people who think of the Vietnam war the way I think of WWI. People who don’t want to spend their free time tinkering, fixing the weak springs, fixing this and upgrading that like owning a Harley has always been. Like the guy said when I bought my Roadgilde, this is just the starting point, make it your own. Which I proceeded to do and yes, I loved that bike. This bike is half way, just finish the job and build a bike for a young person who doesn’t (always) have grease under their fingernails but still wants that undefinable Harley magic.
No burnouts or wheelies?
What jeans are you wearing?????
HD could have won me (and many others) over with this bike had they added the info-tainment display. What an incredibly poor product management decision. #fail.
How tall are you?
What handle bar bag is that?
Be nice if Harley made bikes for people other than midgets these days..How tall is this guy? His knees are almost hitting his friggin elbows ..It was tight before they went this new frame..these new frames forget about it if your close to 6ft or over...even the baggers are too damn tight
Agree with you. Harleys are ideal for short riders. I am only 5’11 and I do not feel well even on baggers not even thinking about low rider ST. Knees above hips mean discomfort.
I disagree with the statement that customers want the infotainment setup. This is not designed for the touring crowd, it obviously is designed for the customer that likes club style dynas with fxrt fairings.
Having it as an option is never a bad thing.
Is the instrument panel bright enough
When so small?
Touring model no longer has a front vent that can close. No one used it.
For tall riders too small.
That gauge on the bars looks so lazy, I’d rather buy the standard low rider s and just add a wind fairing and bags.
ugly cute I love it
Different sized bags.. No thanks, bike looks hidious from the back. Why didn't harley make the left side bag the same size as the right?? Make the back look symmetrical the mind boggles. Personally I think harley should stick to what they do best.. Tee shirts and hoodies. Cheers
dude on the design team said the reason they made the bag smaller was for people putting aftermarket exhaust on. Specifically a 2-1 upsweeped exhaust
@@SooHighFashion still looks odd from the the back you must agree surely? 😁
Harley really missed the mark on the inside of the fairing . Should have put and updated lcd instrument cluster GPS and radio .
Looks like they just slapped on a aftermarket fairing. .
Those bags become more of a PITS than useful. All scratched up???? Who who want to reattach that? Get the S. Forget the ST...is just an accessorized S
Dude. Your knees are higher up than your butt is. This means your butt will start hurting very quickly.
No modes needed. Power to weight improved where stage 2-4 not needed. Horsepower should come from the factory stock as engine mods the most expensive. Car manufacturers as well as many
Motorcycles Manufacturers offer more horsepower, electronics, and new paint every year. Harley only offered fancy named paint every year. People buy used vs new which does not help the Motor company.
I like the hair!
That fairing is atrocious and it should have been kept in the 80’s. Everything else about the bike is right up my alley.
I agree that the screen would be nice. I really don’t think Harley knows its current customer base at all.
these bikes are sold out everywhere and some dealers are booked for the whole years inventory, so i think you are wrong lol
@@DefZen343 well you are forgetting we are still having supply issues so it's not like Harley is making a ton of them. "lol"
$twentytwothousand dollars plus tax and title …..
I dont think you can get one for that price......Im seeing 25 to 26 thousand before TT&L
@@kevincooper2619 Just dropped a deposit.. 21k
I have many types of bikes. And nobody is going to convince me that my FXLRST is going to scrape the bags. Enough of the lean angle talk. You’ll peg out before scraping the bags.
The only thing i like in this model is the engine, i pefer the old style of Electras or Street glide, sorry.
No I disagree with the infotainment. Want that get a bagger
great review. I like this guy way more than that other dude, with the weird hair who talks really strange and sloooooooooow.
Wow...I gotta say this was a miss for me. I rode it today and disagree 100% on much. Super weird seating. It felt like I was on a lawn chair on top of the frame. I felt really really disconnected. Suspension was the best I've felt for any Harley going over bumps...at the expense of handling It felt so mushy with no road feel. Throttle was smooth, but there was some drive line lag so kinda disconnected with super long shift action needed to change gears. Brakes..were okay..but long push to get he back brake to do anything.... Styling was good. Overall the sum was less than the parts. A surprising miss in my book.
your seating positon looks ridiculous, uncomfortable with knees pointing to the sky, the original fxrt had better seating and passenger also, with footpegs, music came with the bike, sissy bar, safety bars as well as highway pegs, better hard bags, larger fairing, and full instruments, .. they tried harder then for the customer, now they want u to buy the bike, with next to nothing on it,then spend a pile of money outfitting it with what should be standard equipment, and then some, .. I wont call harley tight arse barstads cos that would be rude....
Nice bike but not for me
Oh harley… i just dont know what they are thinking, the demographic that would want this bike cant afford it or wouldn’t spend the money, and the bike that was suppose to get that young demographic is also over priced (sporster) i just dont get it.
Mate, they are sold out... so they must do something right.. my dealer sold 8 at the first day of release ...
You may not get ''it'', but thousands of others do get ''it'' since every one of these bikes is pre-sold and many are paying way over list just to get one. Obviously, H.D. knows a lot more about their demographics than you.
@@renatomarana3716 like everything the early adopters will come but consistency is king with these bikes i remember when the vrod and the street came out it was the same
Thing and look at were they are now???
@@gigi9467 other brands don't sell their bikes when they hit the showroom. Just saying that HD does something right with the new management. Also the icons bike and pan America sold as soon as they hit the showroom. Previous management made a mess but the German dude is doing a great job. Respect for HD re-inventing theirselves.
@@gigi9467 I keep hearing everyone looking for Vrods now.. its funny how things hit at different times..
115 lb ft and 95 hp LOL.
more i look at this bike, less i like it. ugly cheap fairing - this is for club kids wanting a road glide
Harley is just making so many bad design choices. The fairing is great and retro... they they destroy the look with those HORRIBLE asymmetrical bags. They aren't "eh", they are butt ugly. I personally know 3 people that loved the pictures, went to check them out (one ordered one and went to pick it up) and all three said "no way" when they saw it. The bags turned all three off. One is still considering getting one but changing the exhaust and bags immediately. Its one thing to customize your bike and it's another to feel you need to because you hate so.wthing about the bike. It's buying a bike with a 2-3k higher price tag to start NO ONE likes the asymmetrical bags. I mean NO ONE.
BTW in general I never watch your reviews because they are always just an exercise in ass kissing of advertisers.