Have a red '24 gt. Dig this bike. Even with the excellent QS, I enjoy shifting manually. And those crazy looking headlights are looking better every day. Work excellent as well. Great looking sport tourer.
@@Markustempest well yes I’m aware but based on the question it appeared as though the person was asking if the bike had those things already. Even if Suzuki didn’t have them as an option, the aftermarket has a plethora of solutions for that.
I'll expand on HahrtDood's excellent questions. I too have a 29" inseam and find most reviewers simply ignore ergonomics except as they relate to the reviewer size. Can you comment on how well this will fit a shorter rider (29" inseam and correspondingly shorter arms) from the standpoint of seat height and width, position of the footpegs in relation to leg position when standing, reach to the bars, and the weight of the bike? Does this bike come with self-cancelling turn signals? You mentioned no vibes, then clarified to say just enough that you know you are on a motorcycle. I've read other reviews that indicated it can get a little buzzy over 5000 rpms. Did you notice that? Other reviews also commented that gas range is rather low at around 150 - 170 miles. Can you share what you experienced? Your 500 mile tour is much longer than most other reviewers and will provide very valuable insight to riders like me who are interested in this bike and impatiently waiting for it to arrive in the U.S. Thanks
Completely agree with all those questions. I do think you need to go sit on one to find out how it feels because everyone is different, and unfortunately I have not seen any dealer that has one yet so hopefully I will get a look at in person soon as I am also interested in getting one of these
Don't mean to "ignore" other rider size. It's not as easy to get comments from other riders during a first ride, as I'm the only one from the Cycle World team riding at that time. When we have a GT back in the office, it'll be easier to get comments from the rest of the team, which includes a few riders closer in size to you. One thing to consider is that Suzuki doesn't want to shy away from a "sport" feeling, and as a result the pegs are a little high and back on purpose. I rode with more of my heel on the peg to keep my feet flat, vs. itched up. The tank/seat junction is manageable but riders (especially taller riders) will notice the tank feels a bit wide at their knees. That's one of those "can't have your cake and eat it, too" things (the tank is .5 gallon larger, after all). Suzuki claims 170 to 175 mile range. In tighter canyon riding we were closer to that 160, while on longer, highway sections we actually managed around 37 mpg. That seems to align with what you've read/heard elsewhere. I would not describe the GT as buzzy. Again, there's a touch of vibrations in the seat, but I think that's almost purposeful. Toward the front of the seat the vibrations quiet even more. There were almost none at the handlebar and feet.
@@bradleyadams1286 Bradley, thanks for the quick reply. I think poor choice of words on my part. Didn't mean to imply you deliberately ignored the issue. I meant to say most reviewers understandably focus on how the bike fits them. And given your above average height you couldn't possibly assume you would know how a bike fits my below average height. Frustrating for shorter riders like me who eagerly await reviews from shorter reviewers like EnglishbikerDan and Usernamekate. Seeking out riders of other sizes on your follow up review will be most welcome. However your follow up comments on peg placement, tank width, and seating position are all insightful. Although there is a lot to like about this bike, I suspect the position will be too sporty with too much forward lean for my liking. Thanks also for answering my other questions and the questions below.
It probably depends on what you are used to. Naturally bikes get wider as the displacement increases on them which makes the seat height number deceiving. If you flat foot a bike like a Ninja 400, this bike would probably put you on your toes because of the width. Best best is to find a dealer and sit on one.
I really like this bike. I've owned both an '11 Ninja 1000 and a '16 FJR1300. My N1K was an awesome bike but not good 2-up. My FJR was an equally awesome bike, great for 2-up but a big girl, kinda heavy for my tastes. I've seen a lot of 2-up shots for the Suzuki but it's so close the N1K in so many ways, I find it had to believe it'd be any better as a 2-up ride. If I were only riding solo, this bike would definitely be on my radar.
Two problems: 1) Those little pin-point headlights will be hard for other drivers to see, (and personally I think they're ugly). 2) The bike requires PREMIUM FUEL... which has gone through the roof for price.
We chased a Hayabusa on the entire ride. While he had a bit more fun when the road opened up, you can't argue with the comfort and increased versatility of the GT.
Kawasaki is notoriously horrid to work on. Stupid filter locations, electrical issues and more. I'd take the Suzuki any day. I work at a shop with hundreds of bikes and every time a busted kawi comes in you bite your lip, and not in a good way... you know you're in for a headache.
what crown the kawasaki sport touring king was is the Concours, neither of these squid missile bikes are anything touring except for the bags. sport yes. touring No, or come close to a Connie's touring abiltys, or for that matter a FJR. even a z900rs with screen an bags is better. it would be the prince to the King Connie. princes get a crown but smaller right?
No, Suzuki has done a good job of limiting vibrations. A lot of effort went into keeping the rider and passenger comfortable. This was a big point for them.
@@paulh6101 Yes my friend the speed limit on the Montana Interstate 90 is 80 mph and most folks are traveling at 90....duh!...you need to get out a bit!
its the gixxer squid missile inline 4, at 90 it will be about 9000rpm. see how long u can take that buzzing on the highway along with the wind goes by the 99cent flyscreen u get. enjoy.
is that triumphs fly screen they stuck on there an calling a touring windscreen? what!?. an non adjustable. hmmm, Ok u can tell me sport touring Im not seeing it though. only sport. a gixxer sitting up straight. centerstand? another No?. hmm. heated grips standard?. No again huh?. sport bike seat i see. Ok well I always replace seats, noone gives u a decent seat anymore, but it should be alot better than that if u gonna call it sport-TOURing. thats all sport an no touring so far. wheres this Touring u speak of?. OHHhhhhh. the bags!. Ok. thats ONE for "Touring". whats the rpm at average daily normal realistic highway speeds?. u know, like a HD Low Rider ST, a FJR ST, or say a Concours ST?. the same 3-3500?. Oh u say it's 9000 rpm on the freeway? ouch, did ya think about retuning/gearing that there gixxer a lil bit for touring?. cos vibes suck. they'll suck quickly on the highway. add to that the joke of a windscreen u got sucky suckass Tourer. buzzed an blown to death. at any normal freeway speed you'd be lucky to stand it for 20mins. not good. not Touring. the problem is its really really not touring at all. GSXR, with bags. an sit upright. they know how to make sport bikes. theyre good at sport bikes. the gixxer engine is great but they didnt tune n gear-sprockets it for touring, its the same waaaahhhh high rpm, high vibrations, squid missile gixxer fools engine that will numb ur hands and butt in a few minutes anytime u attempt freeways. along with a tiny flyscreen that u would probably be better off with the naked S an take the free wind. or melt down 1000 plastic bottles an try to form them on top an sides of it to get SOME KIND of wind relief. and NON adjustable. double doh!. it should be called the commuter special. or the bike night bagger. or sport-not-really-kinda-touring, but this gixxer squid missile with bags has no business using the term Touring in it's name. Id rather start a petition they bring back the SV650 with bags and that wonderful twin engine it's be a damn sight better bike to slap bags on an call it an ST. an if ur wondering if Kawys SX offering is any better its not. its the ninja squid missile with bags, same buzz an sh*t screen numb u and wind beat u to death inside a half hour on the highway. it does have a centerstand though, and an IMU, but its no Touring either. rip them light to light, but stay away from those highways for more than a few minutes. real sport tourers from japan are the Concours and the FJR. even a HD Low Rider ST is a better balance of sport an touring. I dont know what to tell u. the Japanese do squid missiles very well, but they dont get touring. They did. but no gixxer or ninja squids will ride a Concours or a FJR. both are the consumete & exact textbook definition of ST. but totally not cool to squids. But theyll sell alot of these to the squids who got a lil older. still wanna gofast, but cant take the sport bike bend anymore. when they realize they still have the high-rpm buzzing on the freeway as their sport bike an even less windscreen than it too, which wont take long, theyll probably get a Road glide or Challenger next that have the Tq for the wwahhh their squid hearts crave, an smooth as butter at 90 on the freeway. Just like my Connie. and the FJR. Show Less Show Less
Have a red '24 gt. Dig this bike. Even with the excellent QS, I enjoy shifting manually. And those crazy looking headlights are looking better every day. Work excellent as well. Great looking sport tourer.
Sporty yes..on the touring side..cruise control? center stand? heated grips? Adjustable suspension? Should I trade my FJR for one of these?
Yes, no, no, yes.
Adjustable suspension would be a nice addition, though I think that's just Suzuki trying to keep MSRP within a certain range.
@@Boadhion2wheels Heated grips are an option
@@Markustempest well yes I’m aware but based on the question it appeared as though the person was asking if the bike had those things already. Even if Suzuki didn’t have them as an option, the aftermarket has a plethora of solutions for that.
Anytime, the Suzuki is light years ahead of ANY Yamaha 👍
I'll expand on HahrtDood's excellent questions.
I too have a 29" inseam and find most reviewers simply ignore ergonomics except as they relate to the reviewer size. Can you comment on how well this will fit a shorter rider (29" inseam and correspondingly shorter arms) from the standpoint of seat height and width, position of the footpegs in relation to leg position when standing, reach to the bars, and the weight of the bike?
Does this bike come with self-cancelling turn signals?
You mentioned no vibes, then clarified to say just enough that you know you are on a motorcycle. I've read other reviews that indicated it can get a little buzzy over 5000 rpms. Did you notice that?
Other reviews also commented that gas range is rather low at around 150 - 170 miles. Can you share what you experienced?
Your 500 mile tour is much longer than most other reviewers and will provide very valuable insight to riders like me who are interested in this bike and impatiently waiting for it to arrive in the U.S.
Thanks
Completely agree with all those questions. I do think you need to go sit on one to find out how it feels because everyone is different, and unfortunately I have not seen any dealer that has one yet so hopefully I will get a look at in person soon as I am also interested in getting one of these
Don't mean to "ignore" other rider size. It's not as easy to get comments from other riders during a first ride, as I'm the only one from the Cycle World team riding at that time. When we have a GT back in the office, it'll be easier to get comments from the rest of the team, which includes a few riders closer in size to you. One thing to consider is that Suzuki doesn't want to shy away from a "sport" feeling, and as a result the pegs are a little high and back on purpose. I rode with more of my heel on the peg to keep my feet flat, vs. itched up. The tank/seat junction is manageable but riders (especially taller riders) will notice the tank feels a bit wide at their knees. That's one of those "can't have your cake and eat it, too" things (the tank is .5 gallon larger, after all).
Suzuki claims 170 to 175 mile range. In tighter canyon riding we were closer to that 160, while on longer, highway sections we actually managed around 37 mpg. That seems to align with what you've read/heard elsewhere.
I would not describe the GT as buzzy. Again, there's a touch of vibrations in the seat, but I think that's almost purposeful. Toward the front of the seat the vibrations quiet even more. There were almost none at the handlebar and feet.
@@bradleyadams1286 Bradley, thanks for the quick reply. I think poor choice of words on my part. Didn't mean to imply you deliberately ignored the issue. I meant to say most reviewers understandably focus on how the bike fits them. And given your above average height you couldn't possibly assume you would know how a bike fits my below average height. Frustrating for shorter riders like me who eagerly await reviews from shorter reviewers like EnglishbikerDan and Usernamekate. Seeking out riders of other sizes on your follow up review will be most welcome. However your follow up comments on peg placement, tank width, and seating position are all insightful. Although there is a lot to like about this bike, I suspect the position will be too sporty with too much forward lean for my liking.
Thanks also for answering my other questions and the questions below.
It probably depends on what you are used to. Naturally bikes get wider as the displacement increases on them which makes the seat height number deceiving. If you flat foot a bike like a Ninja 400, this bike would probably put you on your toes because of the width. Best best is to find a dealer and sit on one.
@@kmb957 Agreed. Taking forever to get them I'm the U.S. Also interested in the Multistrada V2S and that too is taking along time to arrive.
My FAV Suzuki Gixxus (remember, people nickname the GSX-R the Gixxer).
I wonder if Cycle World still publishes a magazine? Those were the best
Shame for the center stand. Otherwise an amazing bike. :)
center stand=useless crap
@@ragimundvonwallat8961 Really? :) I do not think so.
@@ragimundvonwallat8961 Center stands are useful for maintenance and, more importantly on a touring bike, flat repairs and tire changes.
I really like this bike. I've owned both an '11 Ninja 1000 and a '16 FJR1300. My N1K was an awesome bike but not good 2-up. My FJR was an equally awesome bike, great for 2-up but a big girl, kinda heavy for my tastes. I've seen a lot of 2-up shots for the Suzuki but it's so close the N1K in so many ways, I find it had to believe it'd be any better as a 2-up ride. If I were only riding solo, this bike would definitely be on my radar.
Excellent review. Thank you.
i dont like touring motorcycles. but this one. looks really good.
Two problems: 1) Those little pin-point headlights will be hard for other drivers to see, (and personally I think they're ugly). 2) The bike requires PREMIUM FUEL... which has gone through the roof for price.
Almost all motorcycles require premium fuel. That isn't news to anyone.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Completely untrue. Two of my three Liter bikes are rated for 87
888jackflash, which bikes are those? Model and year.
@@ryannafe9252 right?
@@888jackflash My 2008 Hayabusa took Premium, as did my 2003 GSX-R1000.
I'm considering my next bike between Hayabusa and S1000GT. What would you suggest?
S1000GT
Busa with bags
We chased a Hayabusa on the entire ride. While he had a bit more fun when the road opened up, you can't argue with the comfort and increased versatility of the GT.
Katana and VStrom 1050XT ;-)
@@PissTakeProduction this bike better then them both
I really tried watching the full review; however, after really the 1,000th "really" I gave up.
He ain’t no John Burns
How are the lights?
Probably the best headlights I've ever experienced on a motorcycle and I've owned about 30 bikes over the years.
Should have a top box pillion seating woeful may as well convert a gsxr 1000 and have all the power least yamaha mt10 comes in touring with a top box
But does it take the crown from the ninja 1000 sx?
Kawasaki is notoriously horrid to work on. Stupid filter locations, electrical issues and more. I'd take the Suzuki any day. I work at a shop with hundreds of bikes and every time a busted kawi comes in you bite your lip, and not in a good way... you know you're in for a headache.
Totally concur. It's crazy that the H2 line has easier air filter access than a Ninja 400 XD.
what crown the kawasaki sport touring king was is the Concours, neither of these squid missile bikes are anything touring except for the bags. sport yes. touring No, or come close to a Connie's touring abiltys, or for that matter a FJR. even a z900rs with screen an bags is better. it would be the prince to the King Connie. princes get a crown but smaller right?
Any reviewer who says "confidence inspiring" should be fired immediately.
One of the best things about this bike, no retarded always on indicators.
My gsxs1000f was very buzzy cruising at 90+....is the touring model also buzzy?
good ?
No, Suzuki has done a good job of limiting vibrations. A lot of effort went into keeping the rider and passenger comfortable. This was a big point for them.
@@bradleyadams1286 were yall actually cruising at 90+ long enough to know? Like at least 10min..
@@paulh6101 Yes my friend the speed limit on the Montana Interstate 90 is 80 mph and most folks are traveling at 90....duh!...you need to get out a bit!
its the gixxer squid missile inline 4, at 90 it will be about 9000rpm. see how long u can take that buzzing on the highway along with the wind goes by the 99cent flyscreen u get. enjoy.
Seems like a whole lot of bike for the money.
That is not a big fairing, nor is 5 gallon fuel capacity, big. My 2006 C10 had 7.5 gallon?
I wish the fairing was larger too.
Awesome 🏆🎖️👍🇵🇰
When the new R1 came out a few years ago, everyone was laughing at it. Now, every manufacturer is copying/ripping off its face design! 😏
SUZUKI USA!!! Why don’t we get Trident Blue like Europe?
I can see the katana in it
would this be good on the track? I would like a do it all bike
It's a gsx-s1000 with a fairing and better electronics. Fully adjustable suspension. I'd say throw on some S22s and go track it. 😁
no cruise? that kills it for me.
The GT has cruise control.
@@zman5581 I shall take my comment back. I guess I missed it in the video while running on treadmill.
@@adelalvarez7671 Heated grips would be nice, though!
@@bradleyadams1286 available as an option
@@adelalvarez7671 No cruise control on a treadmill dam
is that triumphs fly screen they stuck on there an calling a touring windscreen? what!?. an non adjustable. hmmm, Ok u can tell me sport touring Im not seeing it though. only sport. a gixxer sitting up straight. centerstand? another No?. hmm. heated grips standard?. No again huh?. sport bike seat i see. Ok well I always replace seats, noone gives u a decent seat anymore, but it should be alot better than that if u gonna call it sport-TOURing.
thats all sport an no touring so far. wheres this Touring u speak of?. OHHhhhhh. the bags!. Ok. thats ONE for "Touring".
whats the rpm at average daily normal realistic highway speeds?. u know, like a HD Low Rider ST, a FJR ST, or say a Concours ST?. the same 3-3500?. Oh u say it's 9000 rpm on the freeway? ouch, did ya think about retuning/gearing that there gixxer a lil bit for touring?. cos vibes suck. they'll suck quickly on the highway. add to that the joke of a windscreen u got sucky suckass Tourer.
buzzed an blown to death. at any normal freeway speed you'd be lucky to stand it for 20mins. not good. not Touring.
the problem is its really really not touring at all. GSXR, with bags. an sit upright. they know how to make sport bikes. theyre good at sport bikes. the gixxer engine is great but they didnt tune n gear-sprockets it for touring, its the same waaaahhhh high rpm, high vibrations, squid missile gixxer fools engine that will numb ur hands and butt in a few minutes anytime u attempt freeways.
along with a tiny flyscreen that u would probably be better off with the naked S an take the free wind. or melt down 1000 plastic bottles an try to form them on top an sides of it to get SOME KIND of wind relief. and NON adjustable. double doh!.
it should be called the commuter special. or the bike night bagger. or sport-not-really-kinda-touring, but this gixxer squid missile with bags has no business using the term Touring in it's name.
Id rather start a petition they bring back the SV650 with bags and that wonderful twin engine it's be a damn sight better bike to slap bags on an call it an ST.
an if ur wondering if Kawys SX offering is any better its not. its the ninja squid missile with bags, same buzz an sh*t screen numb u and wind beat u to death inside a half hour on the highway.
it does have a centerstand though, and an IMU, but its no Touring either. rip them light to light, but stay away from those highways for more than a few minutes.
real sport tourers from japan are the Concours and the FJR. even a HD Low Rider ST is a better balance of sport an touring. I dont know what to tell u. the Japanese do squid missiles very well, but they dont get touring. They did. but no gixxer or ninja squids will ride a Concours or a FJR. both are the consumete & exact textbook definition of ST. but totally not cool to squids.
But theyll sell alot of these to the squids who got a lil older. still wanna gofast, but cant take the sport bike bend anymore.
when they realize they still have the high-rpm buzzing on the freeway as their sport bike an even less windscreen than it too, which wont take long, theyll probably get a Road glide or Challenger next that have the Tq for the wwahhh their squid hearts crave, an smooth as butter at 90 on the freeway. Just like my Connie. and the FJR.
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I am sorry but sticker GSX + on the side of the looks pretty cheap for a $13800 bike!!! Pretty chintzy!!!!?
You say "really" really often ...
Really?
You're really critical.
Kill the damn background music.
I agree. What's the point unless there's a lull in the narration, which there never is in these reviews.
You are too tall to present this bike...just saying....😏😏
Oh look Suzuki made a mt-10
User name checks out.