Black Panther - Sibling Rivalry
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- Опубликовано: 15 фев 2018
- Leaping out of the night and onto the big screen! Do Doug and Rob get sucked into all the hype? Check out their thoughts on Marvel's Black Panther.
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Did you like Black Panther? Where would you rate it with other Marvel movies?
Channel Awesome before I watch this review is there spoilers in this review? Because I haven't seen the movie yet,# u guys are amazing! I love what u do!!!!
The third act was just a cat fight, I agree with Nostalgia.
Channel Awesome definitely the best MCU so far
Top 3 Marvel movies if we're not counting FOX/Sony films
It's in my top four, on par with the Captain America sequels and the first Avengers.
In the credits Stan Lee’s character is named
“Thirsty Gambler”
Grant Lauzon lol.
That was the best Stan Lee cameo in all of films.
I liked the underground cave specifically because it wasn't epic. The guy had said earlier when he challenged the king that "I don't need the whole country to be there, just me and him" and that's the battle they got in the end. Just the two of them.
Yes plus it happened in the “ heart” of Wakanda where the vibranium is, that shapes wakanda and could change the world. Fighting there was a nice location for me . Sorry about what I’m sure is wrong spelling .
I just wish it had been a bit more interesting visually. The movie is set in a country with some of the most strikingly beautiful environments on earth but as soon as they fell in that hole I just thought to myself, "oh great, the climax is just going to be in front of a bunch of greenscreen generated backdrops".
But i was expecting a battle.
Not a ps2 era cgi cutscene.
carlotta4th spot on
carlotta4th I think that was Rob's point of the budget didn't match the vision. Thematically it's a great fight, but man that CGI is just awful.
I personally really enjoyed the film. For me, the relationship between Killmonger and T’Challa is the best part. I love it when a villain reflects the heroes own beliefs. Killmonger is driven to do what he does to prevent anyone else from having to live with the pain of having their family murdered. The exact same motive as T’Challa in Civil War. The difference lies in execution. While T’Challa shows restraint and reasoning, Killmonger wants to strike first. But the end goal is the same. His death (spoiler) and the events following acknowledge it. The film hits a very somber note allowing them to stop fighting and simply talk. T’Challa shows him the beauty in the world while he lived his whole life believing it is in darkness. He then chooses to reveal Wakanda’s advancements to the world. While Killmonger would’ve done it with a show of force, T’Challa does it with reason, focusing on all applications (medicine, tech, etc). They parallel each other in near every aspect. That made this film better than great for me. 10/10 would see again.
Charles Forte Right? He’s not just a guy with similar powers to the main hero like in the other movies. No, he’s a man who’s a darker reflection of the hero. Someone who carries similar beliefs that the hero agrees with himself and the conflict between the two really carries the movie! The fight in the cave does a great job to symbolize this as well!
Charles Forte Great observation
Best MCU villain. My favorite MCU villains are, as of now: Loki, Alexander Pierce, Zemo, Ego, Vulture, Hela, And now Killmonger
Sometimes showing how a hero and a villian makes similar but different choices highlights what ultimately makes the hero the hero and the villain the villian.
I was just telling my dad, one of my favorite things about Killmonger is that you can't necessarily relate to him, but you can sympathize with him. That's huge. Making your villain sympathetic (same with Keaton) makes them more interesting.
Exactly my thoughts as well. I agree with his sentiment, that he wants to help the less fortunate (in this case specifically black people living in slums) I just don't agree wit his way of going about it xD The best thing honestly is that at a base level, Killmonger and T'Chala's goals are the exact same, just different methods.
Mason Henderson I don't agree with that statement
Let's hold a moment of silence for that Pink Panther intro....
Don't be so dismissed.
God, that joke was so cringey
TheMKatStudio I'm lost...
What a horrible and boring intro
HA!
Marvel is trying a lot harder with their villains.
Thomas Grindol yes. All I kept thinking is Marvel is definitely stepping it up with their villains
They're now well ahead of everybody else when it comes to supervillains.
Thomas Grindol I think phase 3 has the best marvel villains so far zemo,ego the living planet, the vulture, hella, killmonger marvel has really been trying to give USA good compelling villains yeah they have sliped up here or their like with the doctor strange villain who's name I can't spell....let's just hope thanos lives up to the build up and can be added to the list of good villains
Michael Birkinshaw I agree with everything except Zemo. His motivations were good but he was barely in his own movie
Thomas Molina I liked zemos back story and motivation and I find him kinda sympathetic I wish he had more screen time in the movie that is an issue but considering they didn't kill him in the movie tells me they still have plans for this character..he may be lacking in this movie but I see un taped potential in this character if they do keep him around...he could fit either in a black painter movie or a future captain america movie since those 2 characters have un finished business with bucky as cap if Chris Evans is done.
“Don’t freeze...”
*”I NEVA FREEZE.”*
Evolved Turtle Productions T'challa then procedes to freeze
*tchalla.exe has stopped not freezing*
Lee Richardson No.
I wanted to scream in the theater when I heard that
"Did he freeze?"
"Like an antelope in headlights."
Was disappointed they killed Serkis... He was irresistibly loony xD
Dimitris Kalergis that was my ONE light criticism of the film
Dimitris Kalergis Same here. I wanted to see more of him. He was so entertaining.
Doug....I want you to know....that opening physically hurt me. My soul has left my body racking it in immense and never ending pain. And I have to thank you for that.
Poor Doug. He’s never gonna live down this opening.
Hey, its all on him..not only did he choose to do it...but he didn't edit it out either :p
@@LaughingOwlKiller I think that was the point... He almost had it too!
The Riddler guy is an actual fashion trend in Africa. They call them Swenkas.
*POST CREDIT SCENE SPOILERS*
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There was some fan speculation recently (was also brought up in those Texts From Superheroes" comics) that if Cap wakes up Bucky for the SOLE purpose of joining in the battle against Thanos then he's basically just using Bucky the same way the Russians had been; waking him when they need him to kill
Establishing that he's already awake and recovering BEFORE Infinity War means that it's specifically going to be his choice to join the battle
I had not seen it that way and I was annoyed that it felt like a recycling of Civil Wars post credit scene. Thank you for this much better perspective :)
hell yeah
I love that. Just having him already there and obviously on the path to healing makes me so much more hopeful for Infinity War.
also 'White Wolf' is character from BP comics. ;)
Mr freeze: everything freezes !!!
Black Panther: I never freeze
The Creature underrated comment
unstoppable force meets immovable object
No, you freeze
Thank you Doug, every one has been talking about the “live action” lion king and the whole time I’ve been saying “it doesn’t count if all the characters are CGI!”
There was plenty of comedy in the movie. Quite of a few times that our entire theatre broke out laughing. But the drama, behind the comedy was there.. the comedy 'didnt' have to carry.. it was.. a flavor..used to further the story, not 'be' the story.
Unlike Thor:Ragrnnanrrrran. Although that was a good movie too.
Hhhahahhh
The comedy was like the weakest point of this film tbh. "WHAT ARE THOOOOOSE???"
HAHA le epic lol
If *Infinity War* doesn't have a scene where Shuri schools Tony Stark about how dated his tech is, then someone in the Marvel Studios writing room is sleeping on the job.
The Dashboard omg I was just saying that!!!! Especially since Wakandan tech is the most advanced in the world ^^
Then Rocket shows up and just laughs?
I think it’ll be more akin to a dick-measuring contest, as they both have some pretty impressive tech. Jarvis/Vision alone is an amazing feat.
Calling it now, Thanos gets defeated because Tony, Shuri, and Rocket combine their tech.
Ilyas Basuki So basically remote-controlled robotic suits that absorb energy and use it to explode enemies? I like it!
I would've gone with a Lion King style intro: NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA THIS MOVIE ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCKS, MARVEL'S DONE IT AGAIN!!!!
I think you guys sorta missed the "point" of the post-credits tag scene. Bucky says "Thank you," to Wakanda Q lady. There was a more "deeper" moment between these two, I took it that she'd reversed the Hydra programming he was under. (The reason why he went back into stasis/cryo-sleep at the end of Civil War.)
I Think The Real Thing Was The Subtitles...The Kids Called Him White Wolf, White Wolf Is T’challa’s Adopted Brother Who Becomes Like The Leader Of Some Wakandan Police Force Or Something
they got they didnt think i needed to be mentioned
I love the soundtrack so damn much, I've never heard of SZA before Todd mentioned her and I'm so happy I know of her
missemeriin SZA is a bit knew blood but yeah she's fantastic isn't he. Listen to her album Cntrl. It's one of my favorite albums of 2017
I love Doug's "Sick Sad World" shirt. Daria!!
THANK YOU for saying that the "live-action" lion king remake is NOT live action
I just love how split your opinions are, people nowadays really forget that debate could be fun and positive
WAKANDA FOREVER!!!😃😃👍👍
HydraLord1221 Dude, it’s a movie
+HydraLord1221 But...WAKANDA.
HydraLord1221 i want a white ethnostate for chirstmas.
*Uganda bruddha
"Hey aunty"
omg when she stopped the rhino. and i remembered that SHE was his wife! i laughed my ass off. i know that damnn look and yeah...she'd stop me too
That rhino stopping to lick her like a dog was freakin adorable
Funny that as a Native American, I find so many reasons to love this movie outside of just being a good movie. 😂
Fellow native represent.
wait, by Native American do you mean the native people who were on america before the British settlers came over? just making sure I understand the context of this comment.
Tien Yeah we’re still around and growing.
arkinyte13 pretty sure he knows that.. think his point was “native American” could mean anyone whose lived in America their whole lives..
was actually thinking a person who was african american may of fucked up their sentence haha. not the 1st time someone fucked up in the comment section of youtube. :P
Coming to theaters Summer 2019, Pink Panther live action reboot. Directed by Michael Bay
The Pink Panther was a live action film...
LaughingOwlKiller and it’s getting a reboot in 2019
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Can't go wrong with more explosions, what can I say? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm very dismissed
Patriot Airsoft WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?!
Collin Khan 😂😂😂😂😂 Exactly
Patriot Airsoft so am I
This movie broke the record for the largest opening weekend ever in the month of February.
It also broke the record for virtue signaling.
Drama is not the opposite of comedy. Tragedy is. Not a single one of these Marvel movies are tragedies, so the Greek tragedy comparison is a stretch. You don't require joke cracking to be a comedy and you can have plenty of drama and still be a comedy. Tragedy, in it's simplest form, requires absolute loss for the main characters, with nothing achieved, and no enlightenment for the characters involved.
Rechenmaschine The films aren’t tragedies, but MOST of the characters do have tragic stories
Greek tragedies always ended with catharsis, there is always enlightenment in the end. That said, I agree that comedy and tragedy are dramatic opposites in storytelling.
Tragedy is where we gain wisdom.
Martin Freeman was great in this movie. He put on a really good American accent.
The Champion of Morrowind I was really surprised by it!
And Andy Serkis' south african accent was pretty good too
I never expected to see a black supremacist as a villain before, even less in a superhero film.
Yeah if this movie was written by SJW's he'd probably be the hero.
SJW’s probably think that he was the hero and Black Panther was the villain.
Newsflash - SJW's made the movie.
No they didn't you moron.
Am I fucking missing something? Who the hell made this movie then, if not Marvel studios, for the intent of adding more representation to their main cast? Is Ryan Coogler not a giant SJW and hasn't literally every member of the cast appreciated the social and political statements their character describes?
There actually was a guy from somewhere on the motherland who was dressed in traditional African garb. I think he was visiting his family because the people he was with had American accents. When the movie was over he actually started crying over the fact that he saw a movie about a technologically advanced country in Africa and it was not whitewashed. I am looking at you Exodus Gods and Kings, Cleopatra, and a bunch of other movies.
I am calling it right here and right now that Black Panther will make somewhere between 850-1 billion dollars worldwide. Who agrees with me?
cleopatra? you know that cleoptatra is of greek heritage right?? and by the way cringe comment of yours. if people really believed that africa would look like star treek if europeans never were there than dream on
people forget that north africa as arabic. not black. and that dude who commented with cleopatra. cleopatra was a egyptian citizen but she was greek not egyptian
He was referring to Cleopatra the MOVIE not the historical person.
850 would be a world record. Maybe not going that far. Probably around 300-400 to keep it more realistic.
99.9% of central Africa is black. Wakanda is in central Africa. *What a damn coincidence.*
I'm so hyped about this NC episode. FINALLY MALCOM WILL GET TO SHINE
ULGROTHA okay... thanks for that.
When Michael B. Jordan came on, I was like "Ok, here we go. Another "funny" black person... What's he gonna say?" I was in for a *huge* surprise.
JoJo you should watch Creed, MBJ is a fantastic actor
MBJ is one the best young actors on the scene today
I don't even like Jordan but his killmonger was fucking fantastic.
Just saw it today. I didn't let myself get overhyped for this film like I did with Spider-man 2 (2004) & Wonder Woman which a lot of people loved but I was meh on tbh and I wasnt in the mindset of mehness like when I saw Justice League. I was just looking forward to a decent film and Like I thought it was gonna be ,it was a good movie. Nothing MIND BLOWINGLY Spectacular like some are making it out to be but still quite an enjoyable watch. Enjoyable film Highly recommend.
I thought it was mind blowing and spectacular especially coming from marvel
Pffff, another Marvel superhero movie, just this time they gotta cram some more politics into it. Not interested.
JaxBlade
It was just as good as (most of) the other Marvel movies. One liners and people being badass. Nothing amazing but it was still entertaining.
some more politics? It is a film about a politican you snowflake, not heavy handed about it, and the REVIEW tells you it is very different to other marvel films. Snowflake cant handle a little politics in a film
@Toon Trooper. Barely any one liners, a good villain unlike other marvel films ,far more mature story, did you watch the film at all? If so tell me what creature was called into battle against black panther's army?
I don't think you're giving kids enough credit. My generation was raised on the Harry Potter movies, which didn't have nearly as much 'fun magic stuff' as you'd expect. Most of them is the three main characters trying to solve some sort of mystery and/or dealing with coming of age stuff. Kids (especially black kids for obvious reasons) are going to eat this movie up and buy as many toys as possible.
I think the MCU is slowly starting to adopt a Harry Potter-like method of making each film slightly more adult-oriented, or at least more grown-up. I think it's absolutely brilliant.
Levi Everaerts What the hell are you talking about? If anything it's done the opposite. Did you not watch the first Iron Man?
Half-Life Scientist I’m not saying the first Iron Man isn’t a grown-up film or doesn’t deal with adult themes, all MCU films do, but they are getting increasingly less subtle about it.
Yeah, Doug and especially Rob seem like bitter old men telling kids to get off their lawn. It's really annoying.
+Levi Everaerts They've gotten more subtle about it since Iron Man, what are you talking about? Iron Man was the least subtle out of all the films, easily.
I thought the movie had plenty of funny moments. They simply weren't as obvious about it like other Marvel movies where it's more frequent and less natural based on the characters and story.
There were a lot of big laughs when I saw it. And there was at least one moment that undercut a fairly serious scene with humor, when M'Baku interrupts them with, "Are you finished?" It's balanced really well overall. It's weird to hear them talking about this movie like there's barely any humor, even if they do cite that as a plus.
Yeah! Definitely not the “self aware” humor like the latest Thor movie, but the humor was there. Just not a big part of the movie.
I didn't laugh at one joke,and it had the most cringiest joke ever to be said in a marvel movie
You mean like the "what are those" joke? So much depth, so much character...
I think that Black Panther is Marvel's Wonder Woman. Both of them never had a stand alone movie until now and they both had a minor role in a previous movie where superheroes battle each other. Both of them come from places where no person knows of. Both of them have bad cgi in their movies. Seriously, they are so similar for some reason.
Black Panther and Thor Ragnarock are the best MARVEL films I have seen in ages 😀
*In my opinion
P. S this is before Avengers Infinity War
Agreed; what I love most is that these movies are basically polar opposites of eachother, while coming out in succession, and they're two of the best Marvel films so far!
The worst thing that’ll happen from this movie is that Ugandan Knuckles meme is gonna come back. Especially with that “I never freeze” line
Do you really? I’m not sure that it will Overcome the
Underdog factor that the meme
Now has
Overall the meme
Doesn’t have
A huge chance to
Win over
A lot of
Young audiences.
Caleb Boatman God damn it
I was at an all white theater and a bunch of people were making clicking noises and my eyes were rolling so hard.
**best thing
Guy Man how?
Mr. Riddler-Dish was very distracting to me too. And T'chaka's glass eye.
I was getting tired of marvel's awkward moment comedy. Now I want to watch it after you saying this is something more serious.
ruyman90
More like cringy moment comedy
ruyman90
Just be prepared for a "what are those" joke.
Toon Trooper, that's was the only joke I cringed at. "Sneakers" was good though.
I like Marvel AND DC.
Indeed. Twas a good pun.
Where did that thumbnail come from?
Class DISMISSED!!!!
Shattered all my expectations even though i didn’t let the hype effect my experience. it’s one of few the first marvel cinematic universe films that i walked with a lot to ponder over; especially being a black man in this society.
"When these ballerinas work out at the barre, they work out at the bar! Tanked in a tutu when Sick, Sad World returns."
A pink panther joke? OF COURSE!!!!
I just got back from seeing it and loved it! The best time I've had at a Marvel outing since the first Guardians of the Galaxy.
What about Iron Man?
Vegeta Solo Iron man 3? Oh goodness no
Same here :3
All the iron man movies suck.
):
I liked Guardians 2 also...
I went to see it yesterday. The room was packed at a 2 pm screening. At the end, people clapped. Like, full on respect, we know the actors can't hear this between will aplaud anyway. (I live in England, btw.)
As a teacher, I feel that you underestimate kids. Thirteen year old kids (it's PG-13 in England, don't know what it is on your side of the pond) will most definitely get the message.
I'm sure you've heard the rumor about how the post struggled to get this film under 4 hours. I honestly hope it's true and I want that version on BR.
CV
man I went in the morning 10:30 am on a fkin tuesday and it was still packed wtf ... I was mad
In Iron Man 2 there is an emotional journey Tony learns his dad really did love him something he doubted.
not enough to justify a whole movie, though
What justifies a film? It made it's money back with a nice profit and got decent reviews so from a business POV it was worth it.
Sibling Rivalry is a good way to get Doug's first take on new movies, buuuuut I'm not going to watch almost an hour of unrehearsed meandering about it.
Short and sweet: Doug: "This was a good movie."
Rob: "I love this movie."
There. DONE.
I actually like it because it reminds me of the way my friend and I talk about movies we just see
Anybody find it hilarious that both of the johnny storms from both of the fantastic 4 movies made by fox are now apart of the mcu.😁
Marvel giving the Human Torch a second chance since 2010
For me, the villain is always the most key component of any movie or story, whatever villain that form takes. You can have mediocre heroes, you can totally get away with that, but if you tank your villain, there's just no saving it. You're totally fucked. That I think is where movies like Suicide Squad, and Batman vs. Superman fell down, was that their villain presence just wasn't where it needed to be.
Sean McTiernan I dunno about that, I feel like you can survive having a meh villain if the hero(s) are compelling. Guardians of the Galaxy is one example.
Guardians of the Galaxy copes just fine with a shit villain. As long as at least a couple of the characters are engaging and the story is good, you'll get a decent flick.
Ronan wasn't a bad villain. He was decent, but got overshadowed by the heroes in this instance. His goals are clear, and understandable: He wants vengeance on Zandakar for the 'wrongs' they committed against him and the kree people. He stays on task, constantly going after both his retribution, and the infinity stone he needs to pull it off. Even when you look at how he ultimately ends up failing, it was through a combined effort of the entire Nova Corps, plus the actual heroes working against him.
While he wasn't a standout, certainly, he also wasn't bad as a villain.
Jack kirby's family said he would have loved the film...i wonder which would have hated (We all know Stan lee hates 2003 Daredevil)
the other one with michael b jordan.
Jack Kirby would have definitely hated Fan4Stic
How do people see awful affects and cgi in modern movies? I can't see it. I still think grand moff tarkin looked more realistic than the real thing in rougue one for example.
Basically if they can tell it’s not real, the cgi is absolutely shit. People have been spoiled with some movies with incredible cgi & if any other movie doesn’t hold up to them, they complain
Sam K these guys have seen alot of cgi in movies thanks to the 90s, I guess their standards have been shaped by it.
Honestly the only times the special effects took me out of the movie were the CGI rhinos and the occasional obvious green screen environment. But at least for me they’re completely overshadowed by the rest of the gorgeous visuals, especially thanks to the beautifully stylistic art direction and creative the world building
Kevin Petrak I now believe our military must fund research in spears and rinos
Rob 4 months ago: Thor 3 is amazing. So funny. People complain about Marvel movies just being jokes, but they're good jokes.
Rob now: Thank GOD this movie doesn't have a lot of jokes! Thor 3 had way too many jokes.
In my movie theatre, almost everyone left before the mid/post credits scenes. They were dumb people.
TheLoveBug that's how I felt. My dad and I waited till the end of the credits and I told my dad so many people don't get that you should never leave an marvel movie early.
This happens every time I go to see any Marvel movie. People just don't learn or don't care apparently.
With Black Panther, I even had some people walk out DURING the mid-credits scene.
Like.. why? You sit through half the credits, only to walk out when you get an extra scene?
I left before seeing the credits because people wouldn't stop talking. I thought I could probably catch it it on youtube or read about it online.
No. It was a dumb movie.
This movie is its own thing, but if I had to do this exercise of saying what movies crossed together make this movie...
The Lion King (African setting, debate over succession of the throne by relatives)
x
James Bond (Black Panther's gadgets, basically the entire Korea subplot)
x
Wonder Woman (debate over whether to keep their paradise home a secret to outsiders, female "Valkyries")
Of course, everything has its influences. This fuses those concepts into something wholly unique - a great movie with a strong dramatic core and a very well-written villain.
I had a lot of people leave before the first extra scene and even more before the last scene at the end of the credits. I actually stopped this one lady from leaving by asking my friend a little too loudly "why is everyone leaving, this is a marvel movie."
iliowahine19 I find that a good thing, when people leave that means that they aren’t people who normally watch superhero movies, which means Black Panther is attracting more normies which is great and making more money
If they're anything like me, they knew there'd be a a post credit scene, but just didn't care. I've gotten to the point where I'll just go home and google what the scene was later
I have to disagree with doug. Both generals cracking jokes and acting loving to each other goes against their serious and for my country personality.
Diamond Sloan I can understand that. I do wish their was more dialogue between them to further push that they are in fact lovers
They're meant to be ex lovers
Just came back from watching the movie. SO GOOD! :D
the rant about the green guy physically hurts me holy shit. also "is he a family member of the crew" his name is isaach de bankolé and he's been in over 50 films, google is free
I've seen the movie twice, first at a regular screening and the 2nd time at an event screening where most of the audience were African who'd come over to study and work. In regards to the humour or lack thereof, there were several scenes that got zero reaction from a regular audience but sent the African audience into hysterics and my mates had to explain after that they were very specific cultural jokes that you wouldn't get unless you grew up in Africa.
Did anyone else hear a cricket at 0:59?
Between killmonger and Loki. Best marvel villains. Vulture was alright
Hunter Belkin I disagree Vulture was awesome (and I can't believe I'm saying that)
So awesome I actually wanted him to win in the end.
Sebastian Cintron I see your point and I think he was a good villain but not as memorable as Loki who remains my favorite MCU villain
I see a distinct lack of Red Skull in this listing.
Incitos 98 That’s cause Red Skull has a stupid design and doesn’t do anything interesting. The MCU version anyway. He’s better in the comics.
Incitos 98 I actually did like Red Skull. Mainly because of Hugo Weaving.
Doug just needs to chill with how jaded he is. The comedy wasn’t needed when it came it was what it’s supposed to be: comic “relief”
I was fully engaged with these characters. When Black panther is gone I barely missed him because the other characters were compelling on their own. Honestly the general is the biggest badass ever.
The final fight in the cave was needed because of the resolution of Michael b Jordan’s arc. YOU LITERALLY LIFT HIM FROM THE DEPTHS OF HIS OWN DARKNESS DOUG ARE YOU KIDDING ME WITH THAT
THIRST ALERT!
Are you done?
@ben tramer
Uh...dude...saying it out of nowhere like that just makes you look desperate and creepy.
but this is Channel Awesome not Logan Paul.
TheRealBrentmobile what about shuri's "what are those"
I just want to play devil's advocate against the people who like to say why do people treat this movie like it is the first black superhero film? While it's true that characters like Blade and Spawn had movies first this is really the first movie with a black Superhero who isn't a brutally violent vigelante, sidekick to the main character, in horseshit like Catwomen, over the top jokey paradies, or spends their efforts protecting "Da hood." Many black people are happy to see a great, big budget black hero who you can put in the same sentence and importance of a WW, Tony Stark, Captain America, or Superman. Black Panther isn't Falcon or War Machine. His presence rivals the big names rather than sits in another's shadow.
tmoney360 Thank you!
tmoney360
Uuuh Blade is a hero.
Black Panther is a Anti Hero....given the several Genocides at that time for all we know his father(Former Black Panther) may even be seen as a anti villain or straight up villain.
HellRay I'm not saying BP is a boy scout and that Blade doesn't have the world's well-being on his mind. Many comic heroes have done many questionable things including T'challa. But when it comes to movies many black heroes just haven't been portrayed as world savers like BP is. What blade did wasn't something one would think the wider world would privy to. BP is a world influencing Black superhero we really haven't seen on film like this before. He's so important he will have an alien invading his nation and fighting his army in the next Avengers film. what other black hero has had that type of global importance on screen before this? So many have been sidekick or street level/underground heroes. That's all i mean.
Well there is meteor man ... Right?... Ill show myself out slowly
tmoney360 Why does there have to be a black version of every possible setting a movie could be in? "We need a black worldsaver, a black relatable superhero, a black antihero, a black vigilante a black this, a black that".
That's why i don't like this movie and everything that surrounds it, because all that gets talked about is that.
That he's black. People literally see only black and white.
I'm not calling for a white hero now that protects the hood, or a white blade. I don't give a shit what color the characters are.
That's why i liked Luke Cage. He championed and protected the people in his home, not "Hey everyone unite under your race".
This is all just another step towards racial identitarianism and self segregation.
Black Panther will return in Avengers Infinity War
Lol they shoulda said Wakanda instead
I’m with Doug. Rob is *grossly* underselling how emotion/character driven these movies can get on the whole.
He thinks the airport fight was the center of Civil War... well, he says centerpiece and literal middle of the running time, so I'm not really sure what he was trying to prove with that. He's clearly forgotten the emotional climax with Steve and Bucky vs. Tony, which is completely serious, character-driven, and not at all jokey.
My wife and I and my 13 year old son went to see Black Panther last night. Afterwards I asked him if he liked it, and his first reaction was "There weren't very many funny parts!" That was an issue for him because he's a much more humor oriented kid than an action kid. Black Panther really does stand out because it's themes seem so "real world" as compared to other MCU films.
But my wife and I LOVED this movie because of its maturity. So we're right there with you.
Movie: *makes a cringey “What are the those” joke
You: “It’s so mature.”
Shut up and go watch a real good movie
Your needlessly hurtful comment has a few grammatical errors.
38:27 - So true. My mom went in with no knowledge, I had general knowledge, and my cousin went in as an expert and we all came out with a unanimous enjoyment of the movie. It is a totally accessible film and very good. That car scene Rob keeps mentioning was especially impressive.
We’ve had Uganda knuckles. We need Wakanda Knuckles
NO.
Animated Anecdotes Fuck no
He will sho u de wey
De wey of an effective educational system.
No no no. Fuck no.
HELL NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
Rob watches Little Witch Academia?!?!?! I like him even more now! That is my second favorite anime!
"You've brought me another broken white boy to fix!"
Love that line! Maybe not exactly how the sister said it, but it's still hilarious. I think I'll go see the movie again just to hear it.
It was a good film
I liked it a lot.
Kill Monger is my second favorite MCU Villain right after Vulture
Andres Gonzalez Why? He's not interesting. He's just a revenge nut that killed many people just because daddy died. Boo hoo, your dad got killed, you sure showed us by slaughtering dozens and dozens of fathers and sons. So much depth....as much as a kiddie pool.
Nephi Nelson Oh, so basically like a lot of good characters like Loki & the Punisher. Loki killed people because his dad lied to him. Punisher killed people because his family was killed in front of him. As well, Killmonger killed people because he was ordered to, since he was in the armed forces. As well, he wanted to prove to himself that he was worthy to take the throne.
wow... you really don't get it.
The Vulture is a better villain than Killmonger because Adrian Toomes is involving his wife and daughter under the belief that everything he’s doing is all for them even though it’s all illegal and morally conflicted.
I also kinda feel like Doug feels like he needs to make a negative review for views, but his brother won’t let him 😂
Tyra Ellen I don't follow. Doug likes the movie, where did you get that he didn't?
Finally someone mentions Vulture as one of the MCU's greatest villains.
Thank you Doug, I don't know why everyone loves Loki so much. He was only great on the first THOR and after that he's just been a walking joke
So one mention of the Pink panther, and now i have a saxophone solo on my mind. One that i cannot dismiss. Thanks a lot.. :D
I really enjoyed this film, I give black panther 9/10, the first best film this yeah so far
Still watching, and I really want them to talk about the soundtrack, (which is fucking fantastic)
Channel Dominic do they really look like guys who jam out to Kendrick Lamar?
Yes, it was very unique. All the traditional African instruments mixed in were great.
Channel Dominic name some good tracks?
Everything
Well maybe, but come on, its Kendrick!
The GOAT
black panther and aquaman were my favorite the story and characters in both hooked me in i might be the odd ball one out but i see nothing wrong with black panther i loved i watched this with my parents 4 times we loved it!
Homecomings emotional moment was the scene where he is stuck under all the rubble as a kid who is scared and helplessly crying...but then finds his inner strength to “save himself”,and comes out a man.Another,but more very real tension and not heart wrenching,was the car scene with the Vulture
Pink panther is the best avenger
My one major complaint that creates a sort of through line for the whole movie:
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Why did Erik's dad have to die? It seems like this was not sufficiently explained, and since it wasn't, the whole rest of the plot is hanging from this very shoddy hook.
Taylor Guest it was because Erik's dad pulled out a gun trying to attack the spy guy (younger Forest Whitaker) and T'Chaka reacted very (a lil too much) quickly and "stopped" him by killing him.
Sylvia Gomez I get that much, but it just seems more "he needed to die for the plot" than any INstory reason. Like... dude's still the black panther. We're supposed to believe he did that as an oopsie?
Heat of the moment, Taylor. In close quarters, with less than a second to think, even a Black Panther would have to use instinct over intellect.
Actually, the plot hole that has me still going nuts is WHY DID ANYONE THINK IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO SEND A PRINCE WHO IS AT LEAST 2ND IN LINE TO THE THRONE ON A SPY MISSION?!
Spies, by their very nature, are EXPENDABLE PEOPLE you can burn and execute if they're caught and you don't want others to know you're their employer! Whose bright idea was it send N'Jobu on a SPY MISSION OVERSEAS WHILE THE COLD WAR WAS STILL GOING ON?!
I mean, the guy stayed there long enough to marry and, by the time T'Chaka went to confront him for stealing vibranium and letting KLAUE know about it, have a 10~ year old kid, so he had to have been there for longer than 10 years. So he was sent there somewhere in the early 80's AT THE LATEST.
Again, which idiot risked the prince's life by putting him on a spy mission overseas while the Cold War was still on?!
This shit makes no sense!
"Did he freeze?"
"Like an antelope in the headlights!"
.....Yep, I'm sold!
Now I want to see Klaue screaming for his precious after they take his arm.
In all fairness during the waterfall ceremony there were several people wearing modern clothing and nike trainers in bright colours
They live in our time, to be honest. It makes sense.
serban capraru That and they are far more technologically advanced than the rest of the world. They just hold fast to tradition and culture. Agreed all the same.
video 49 minutes 15 seconds, somehow contains 54 minutes of awkward laughter.
This show should be called "Constantly talking over each other and interrupting each other over and over again - Black Panther"
Hahaha you guys are awesome
I actually appreciated the fact that we saw a Bucky who is recovering and is coming to terms with what was done to him.
Well, we're going to have to talk if this movie doesn't play Africa by Toto......just kidding
klimmr3021 *Sheds one manly tear* Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you.....
Seeing it in 2 hours
I still have 4 hours to go 😭
I saw the movie about two hours ago and I thought it was great.
2 hours.
Yuya Sakaki don't do it
Thanks for reviewing this movie, gents. This movie is one of the best that I've ever added to my collection, and I never get tired of it. Hearing your guys' opinions on it was also entertaining as fuck. Excellent video!!
I like how when they fall inside the mountain, it goes silent except for the punching :-).
The movie was enjoyable, but it was not without problems I can ignore.
I found the characters and storyline that was driven by them very compelling. However, the movie just felt “okay” to me, rather than being good. Main reason is that while the characters are compelling, the world of Wakanda and how it is built was not so compelling to me. Wakanda world building felt like it was based too much on superficial stereotypes which makes technology application just feels unnatural.
Wakanda is supposedly an advanced country, but the problem is that only thing that it has going for is technology. If you take technology away, then all that it is left is a country still stuck in tribal mindset that still elects a monarch by screening candidates in some sort of MMA competition fashion. The people are happy solely because they never had a bad king through pure luck, and even that luck runs out in the movie. So, I just don't see how Wakanda is particularly a positive portrayal of what it may symbolize to some people.
Also, Black Panther as the king of Wakanda setting also created some realism problem for me. It's like Prime Minister of U.K. being 007 at the same time: When does he actually have time to do Prime Minister stuff? Unless Wakanda is so monotonous that there isn't much stuff for a king to do and all it needs is one Batman like peace keeper. Well, in that case, the setting might make some sense.
I find problems with the simplistic skewed view held by the villain about solution to perceived racism. The movie does show that the hero does not agree with the villan's idea of solution to racism. But, it does not make it clear if the disagreement is because that there is a problem with the villain's understanding of the problem or if the disagreement is just because it is violent.
Sure, there are racism in the world, but it is not a type of racism perpetuated by organized effort by an entire country that supports that racism, at least it is not that type of racism in countries like U.S.A. There may be racists in America, but it is not like the entire America supports racism. If bad individuals are personally being racists to someone, how does topping the government of an entire country that does not support that racism with weapons supposed to solve that problem?
One of my pet peeves in Hollywood movies how some movie makers portray other supposedly advanced culture: Something like people in those other culture, which is supposedly advanced as ours or better, having a ranged weapon in a form of a melee weapon that is stereotypically associated with certain aspects of their culture. Doing stuff like that does NOT feel like appreciation of different culture. It just fees like an insult, implying that those people stupidly cling on to certain form of tools just for tradition sake when the form of the tools are completely inadequate for that the technology is applied for.
Any civilization intelligent enough to have advanced technology should also have brains to apply it in a manner that the form would follow its intended function. If I need to aim something at a distance to shoot laser or projectile, etc. at it, then I'd much rather have something shaped like a rifle with a good aiming device like an Aimpoint, than try to point it with something shaped like a sword and try to guess if I am pointing at the right spot.
Lacking at this quality, the writer felt the need to make a character say stuff like "Guns. How primitive." I am not trying to make this political, so if the writers had an anti-gun rights agenda, let's leave that aside for now. The reason why the character needed to say things like “Guns. How primitive” is because the movie makes Nakia use a spear which is more primitive weapon, and the movie does not show anything to make the audience feel that this supposedly advanced Wakanda spear actually is advanced. It is more powerful in penetrating power than a regular spear, and able to shrink to be concealed, but those two alone does not provide any significant advantage as a futuristic spear compared to what advantage a futuristic gun would provide. Think about what a gun is. It is a weapon designed to shoot a projectile or laser at a distance, shaped in a way to make holding and aiming it at a target efficient. If you think about it, that is exactly the characteristic of a weapon that would be suited for the situation where she says “Guns, how primitive.” But, since she does not have a weapon with a characteristic suited for the situation, she needs to climb out of the car, stand on its roof, then throw a spear, all of which is much more cumbersome to do and put her in a disadvantage compared to using a gun. And, what makes this even less of a sense is that Wakanda does have guns. The one Ulysses Klaue was using was stolen from Wakanda, and he was having much more effect with it in the same car chase. And, don't say it was because because Nakia did not want to kill the enemies, because the impact she cased with the spear makes the car looks like it slammed into a wall driving at 100 mph.
Same goes for the large battle scene where Wakanda tribes were fighting each other. They were using spears and swords, and they look just like spears and swords, it is used like spears and swords, and it functions like spears and swords, nothing else. There isn't really anything advanced shown about them. Supposedly Wakanda spear can destroy a tank, according to character dialogue, but it isn't shown anywhere, even in scenes where those spears were used in battle. And, since the movie does not effectively show any of that, that's why the writer felt the need to make Killmonger say Wakanda spear can destroy a tank. Which is lazy if you ask me.
Again I agree with Rob and not Doug.
i just dont agree that rob says that civil war is not an adult movie. it is.
That Daria Shirt!! I LOVE IT!
Remember “the wise build bridges, the fools build barriers” (that might be my favorite line in the film because relevance)