I’ve always loved the humble Niva. I had a Lada as my first car back in the late 70’s - a round head lighted model and it even had a crank to start the engine in case the battery ever went flat. What a lovely car that was. Heavy steering was its only downside. Since owning that car I’ve always been a fan of Lada but I have a special desire for a Niva Bronco. I just with they would return to England and sell them new here. I looked online the other day and it seems that Lada have dropped off the European sales, too. I’d rather have the Niva than the Jimny.
I agree with you Trevorfoggia. Such excellent and unpretentious cars that have been the butt of jokes - but then they have no knowledge of this very practical and good value car. I sincerely hope that the company will continue to make the Niva. Being a UK enthusiast has also brought new pals through spares purchases. Long may they continue. Thanks to the team at Lada Power who present so many quality videos.
With the Torsen, when you get one wheel off of the ground you must tap the brake, then it will start pulling again... I'm surprised the test driver didn't know that.
You may try to use your break pedal with left foot during step on the gas with the right one to lock the Torsen in diagonals. I think thats how to deal with Torsen. In the niva case perhaps the hand brake would do the job too because it seems both front tyres are always grounded.
@@SAADSAAD-bi6og Diagonal problem driver technique, not quickly response to conditions with maximum skill need use. Torsen torque bias ratio (TBR) solve wheel in air, just need hit brake plus gas same time. Now you skill go up like wheel also.
Very good video showing you what the Torsens can do vs open diffs. Not the best for diagonal or wheel in the air as you showed but can be overcome with left foot brake or traction control. Another good point is that they work ALL THE TIME even when braking and in reverse. Selectable full diff locks dont, some even unlock when going backwards and are of course much more expensive than Torsens. Overall value for money and usefulness Torsens are very good
I can see this videos many times ;) thanks for sharing your job that is amazing! It's me again send you greetings while I travel the world in my NIVA to reach your place to meet you. 👊🏼🤙🏼
@@Cam-pt9ex Depends on, if it is a new or used one. If used, 2 times Fluid Film Liquid A with a Week between so the first layer can stop the rust. Then 1-2 times Fluid Film NAS. If new Niva, then 2 times Fluid Film NAS with 1-2 Weeks between
it wood be nice too see an solid axle in the front also(in the form of a adapted rearaxle) too keep the diffs the same and too have more axlearticulation, everything is possible it only takes time..., love the posts
The reason of this was to show the slipping wheel on the open diff and advantage of the torsen differential face to face. We are not tried to show how to pass that slope correct. With the locked TC diff stock Niva will pass it. No questions.
Ну в стоке дифы свободные, колесо вывешивается и машина встаёт. На машине с торсеном в межколёсных дифах машина нормально едет. У Уазиков аналогичная проблема кстати, но Уаз просто начал ставить ЕСП, он прихватит буксующее колесо и момент уйдёт на противоположное. Не всем машинам ЕСП помогает выехать, но Уазу помогает.
couple of clicks on the handbrake = no problem for diagonals or add a preload pack to your rear diffs (got T2 diffs front and rear in my landcruiser, rear has a preload pack and ATRAC never activates once the center diff is locked)
What about the Torsen "brake trick"? ... when you've got no traction slightly depress the brake while depressing the accelerator to gain traction again ;-)
Yo tenía un Niva 93, quería instalarle los Torsen adelante y atrás,pero por la pan/i lo tuve k vender y ahora son escasos y costosos, ojalá los volvieran a traer a Colombia, aquí en alguna época Bronto ensamblo unos lada más alargados y con techo más alto y con inyección monopunto y dirección hidráulica
Very honest review.Thanks!Torsen works just as open diff when one tyre in the air thus the struggle in diagonal passes.Air lockers all the way if u are spending..:-)
Detroit in the rear and ARB in the front. My favorite combination. With dual ARB the rear would get locked often where I run. So the full time Detroit suits me best for the back and I lock the ARB for only the toughest obstacles and turn it back off. Personally I'd never for one second consider anything less than full on locking diffs for an offroad vehicle.
You just need to tap the brake if one wheel is spinning freely and Torsen will grab fine. Simplicity and lower maintenance is the reason US military applications chose Torsen over air lockers.
@@freezerlunik Torsens only stay locked to a point. They are incapable of putting 100% of input torque to one tire like a locker. They're much better than an open diff or clutch type limited slip but are still not true locking diffs.
M/T Tyres on the stock Niva (i can't remember the size), Niva with the difflocks BFGoodrich All Terrain T/A KO2 215/75 R15 100/97S (With Black Bronto Rims) Last few shots, BFGoodrich Mud Terrain TA KM2 215/75 R15 (with silver Bronto Rims )
this looks amazing but I've heard that the front torsen diff is dangerous on daily use. I mean, is this true? is there a possiblity if locking at highspeed while turning?
Could you guys make a video on how to replace the rear upper shock absorber bolt (stud) on a Vaz 2101/Lada 1200. Mine has stripped and just bought the new stud from you guys, but not sure exactly where they weld it from factory.
@@sfafsashfdh6589 central diff locked axles front and rear, but not 4 Wheels, just axles. In some cases and depending on your use you don't need more. Jeep Wrangler for example comes with 3 diff lock from factory. Front, central and rear just like Mercedes Benz G class.
Hello guys, I wanted to make a silly question, if i choose to upgrade the differencial in my lada niva i need to do it both in the front and in the back differencial or only in the back?
@@LadaPower That's extremely helpful. Another thing that i would like to ask is that i see different ratios and a different number of "teeth" in the rear Torsen diffs (22 and 24 teeth). How can i know what's suitable for me?
This is true in many but not in all cases. Some tires (e.g. Simex Centipede profile) are far too aggressive for the Niva resulting in axle breaks. And when your flex is maxed out and tires are not on the ground, you are stuck. Then you need four people hanging on the side of Niva to give it enough weight that the tire hits the ground. Long time hardcore Niva offroader here. I've seen and done it all ;)
why you didnt showed the niva with locked tc? if you think your product is better and claim to do an honest video show every aspect. I was considering of buying torsen diffs but after this video i WILL NOT buy them!
Thank you for your question, sank. The reason for this was to show the slipping wheel on the open diff and advantage of the torsen differential face to face. We are not tried to show how to pass that slope correctly. With the locked TC diff stock Niva will pass it. No questions. Niva with the torsen differentials is much more useful for any terrain than the standard one. We did a fair test. All our customers are very happy with the result.
All these limited slip differentials are a joke...torsen, wavetrac, etc... The wheels still spin just like before. What they need to do is put a torque converter type control on the differential gears. That way the amount of slip would be limited.
Question: "Do you realy need Torsen differential for Your Lada Niva?" Answer: Yes! But if you aren't a real offroad driver only. Why? "(...) With the locked TC diff stock Niva will pass that slope. (...)". Nothing more, nothing less... No doubt - differential TORSEN increases terrain capabilities of Lada Niva. Especially for "idiot-drivers". One question: doesn't TC locked will damage the TORSEN front and rear differentials?
Wannes De Backer a4 and up yes, but the a4 and up quattro have torsen differentials front rear and centre anyway, as they said a standard niva would piss up the hill if they were trying, just demonstrating how it works
Installation is here ruclips.net/video/N6mz16FZv0o/видео.html
I thought you could psudeo-lock torsen diffs by applying brakes.
I’ve always loved the humble Niva.
I had a Lada as my first car back in the late 70’s - a round head lighted model and it even had a crank to start the engine in case the battery ever went flat.
What a lovely car that was. Heavy steering was its only downside.
Since owning that car I’ve always been a fan of Lada but I have a special desire for a Niva Bronco.
I just with they would return to England and sell them new here.
I looked online the other day and it seems that Lada have dropped off the European sales, too.
I’d rather have the Niva than the Jimny.
I agree with you Trevorfoggia. Such excellent and unpretentious cars that have been the butt of jokes - but then they have no knowledge of this very practical and good value car.
I sincerely hope that the company will continue to make the Niva. Being a UK enthusiast has also brought new pals through spares purchases.
Long may they continue.
Thanks to the team at Lada Power who present so many quality videos.
So glad someone has posted a video like this! The information is very important for those looking to go Torsion
With the Torsen, when you get one wheel off of the ground you must tap the brake, then it will start pulling again... I'm surprised the test driver didn't know that.
Das Video ist saucool gemacht. Und der Inhalt überzeugt. Echte Klasse 👋👋👋
You may try to use your break pedal with left foot during step on the gas with the right one to lock the Torsen in diagonals. I think thats how to deal with Torsen. In the niva case perhaps the hand brake would do the job too because it seems both front tyres are always grounded.
DIAGONAL PROBLEM,NOT QUICKLY RESPONSE
@@SAADSAAD-bi6og Diagonal problem driver technique, not quickly response to conditions with maximum skill need use. Torsen torque bias ratio (TBR) solve wheel in air, just need hit brake plus gas same time. Now you skill go up like wheel also.
@@wesleyestes88 THEN what is most effective reponsive differential?????
Absolutely FANTASTIC, Guys! Wish I still had my Niva. (UK)
Very good video showing you what the Torsens can do vs open diffs.
Not the best for diagonal or wheel in the air as you showed but can be overcome with left foot brake or traction control.
Another good point is that they work ALL THE TIME even when braking and in reverse.
Selectable full diff locks dont, some even unlock when going backwards and are of course much more expensive than Torsens.
Overall value for money and usefulness Torsens are very good
DIAGONAL PROBLEM
I can see this videos many times ;) thanks for sharing your job that is amazing! It's me again send you greetings while I travel the world in my NIVA to reach your place to meet you. 👊🏼🤙🏼
Круто! Хорошо что подписали кадры. Речь о винтовых самоблоках.
Кто перешел по ссылке с нива клуба?)
Niva is my dream car, I will be able to afford one for my first car in a few years.
Was mine too for four years. Awesome car, use Fluid Film to prevent rust and the car will last very long
@@Drugaskan how mang coats of fluid film do you put
@@Cam-pt9ex Depends on, if it is a new or used one.
If used, 2 times Fluid Film Liquid A with a Week between so the first layer can stop the rust. Then 1-2 times Fluid Film NAS.
If new Niva, then 2 times Fluid Film NAS with 1-2 Weeks between
it wood be nice too see an solid axle in the front also(in the form of a adapted rearaxle) too keep the diffs the same and too have more axlearticulation, everything is possible it only takes time..., love the posts
Nice video . Niva is really nice car :))
I have too, but 1.9 diesel .
It was more like a “marketing” video not showing stock Niva with TC locked. I’m preaty sure stock Niva would climb that too.
I want a Niva for my next car.
Mustard color Lada niva 1.7 & LPG cabrio
Why didn't you show stock Lada with diff lock on?
The reason of this was to show the slipping wheel on the open diff and advantage of the torsen differential face to face. We are not tried to show how to pass that slope correct. With the locked TC diff stock Niva will pass it. No questions.
@@LadaPower BUT DIAGONAL PROBLEM
@@LadaPower You should not have shown the locked Torsen either then.
Stock niva is fine
@@LadaPower3 years later, i don't get what's the point of torsen diff if stock Lada diff is enough... Lmao
I love niva
I love this Chanel
Nangkang somethings
Avon traction mileage
thanks Hero!
You can use handbrake a little to improve diagonal capabilitys. Just 2-3 clicks.
класс!!!!)))Нива супер.!))
Здравия .Олег если ты понял что то из этого видео можешь в кратце пояснить что там происходит с дифференциалом?
Ну в стоке дифы свободные, колесо вывешивается и машина встаёт. На машине с торсеном в межколёсных дифах машина нормально едет. У Уазиков аналогичная проблема кстати, но Уаз просто начал ставить ЕСП, он прихватит буксующее колесо и момент уйдёт на противоположное. Не всем машинам ЕСП помогает выехать, но Уазу помогает.
couple of clicks on the handbrake = no problem for diagonals or add a preload pack to your rear diffs (got T2 diffs front and rear in my landcruiser, rear has a preload pack and ATRAC never activates once the center diff is locked)
Make some videos of the torsens in action
Great video. How and where to get a Lada Niva in The USA?
What about the Torsen "brake trick"? ... when you've got no traction slightly depress the brake while depressing the accelerator to gain traction again ;-)
GOOD MOVIE, GUYS !!
BRAVO !!
excellent video thank you!
4:23 this is what i dont understand it suposed to lock why it dosent lock ?
Because torsen can't split 0-100 torque. one of the wheels MUST have at least some grip for the other wheel to get power.
Awesome 😊👍
Kaynert Thank you :)
Love this channel
Beatiful car Lada nivas
Yo tenía un Niva 93, quería instalarle los Torsen adelante y atrás,pero por la pan/i lo tuve k vender y ahora son escasos y costosos, ojalá los volvieran a traer a Colombia, aquí en alguna época Bronto ensamblo unos lada más alargados y con techo más alto y con inyección monopunto y dirección hidráulica
Thank you, great video! ;-)
What if I welded the rear diff? Not a daily, work car for farm.
I'm wonder how to activate rear and front dif lock, I mean, it's always locked or just when I lock the diff lock gear?
Any noise from the diff?
Any discount buying 2 ? ;)
Very honest review.Thanks!Torsen works just as open diff when one tyre in the air thus the struggle in diagonal passes.Air lockers all the way if u are spending..:-)
Thanks, Krasimir!
Detroit in the rear and ARB in the front. My favorite combination. With dual ARB the rear would get locked often where I run. So the full time Detroit suits me best for the back and I lock the ARB for only the toughest obstacles and turn it back off. Personally I'd never for one second consider anything less than full on locking diffs for an offroad vehicle.
You just need to tap the brake if one wheel is spinning freely and Torsen will grab fine. Simplicity and lower maintenance is the reason US military applications chose Torsen over air lockers.
@@freezerlunik Torsens only stay locked to a point. They are incapable of putting 100% of input torque to one tire like a locker. They're much better than an open diff or clutch type limited slip but are still not true locking diffs.
@@morbo5061 what percentage of torque they can transfer to wheel with traction? 90%
What is TC?
Transfer Case
What are the different tyres on the video ?
Mlanaga bf allterian and kaiman malatesta
M/T Tyres on the stock Niva (i can't remember the size), Niva with the difflocks BFGoodrich All Terrain T/A KO2 215/75 R15 100/97S (With Black Bronto Rims)
Last few shots, BFGoodrich Mud Terrain TA KM2 215/75 R15 (with silver Bronto Rims )
"Gotta Whole Lotta Niva"
What are the sizes of the tires ?
Con el bloqueo del 100x100 +reductora sube sobrado que no cuenten peliculas tuve el 1600 y el 1700 inyección y se subía por las paredes.
this looks amazing but I've heard that the front torsen diff is dangerous on daily use. I mean, is this true? is there a possiblity if locking at highspeed while turning?
Never. Unless you neglect it and never change oil
What's the difference between the stock differential and torsen? Doesn't the niva come with lock differential capability?
Standard niva do not have front and rear dif -lock,only central diferential have manual lock.
Left foot braking on the diagonals gets you through
It would be helpful to video an installation.
ruclips.net/video/N6mz16FZv0o/видео.html
TC - Center differential?
Transfer case, central lock
@@1mandas well there is a difference between TC and CD
Could you guys make a video on how to replace the rear upper shock absorber bolt (stud) on a Vaz 2101/Lada 1200. Mine has stripped and just bought the new stud from you guys, but not sure exactly where they weld it from factory.
Please post your question here in our group facebook.com/groups/ladapower/ . You will have the answer. Thanks.
How much does this cost parts and labor?
doesnt lada niva has stock diff lock?
Central diff lock but not rear or front diff lock
@@motoresruedas7357 I thought that central diff lock locks all wheels so they spin in sync
@@sfafsashfdh6589 central diff locked axles front and rear, but not 4 Wheels, just axles. In some cases and depending on your use you don't need more.
Jeep Wrangler for example comes with 3 diff lock from factory. Front, central and rear just like Mercedes Benz G class.
@@motoresruedas7357 so if I engage central diff lock, is it like I welded front and rear diffs but they are independent?
@@sfafsashfdh6589 that's right
Great Video Guys! Bob, UK.
100% lock?
Hello guys, I wanted to make a silly question, if i choose to upgrade the differencial in my lada niva i need to do it both in the front and in the back differencial or only in the back?
If you have money only to install one, then install the rear torsen. Then install to the front axle. The best is Rear + front together.
@@LadaPower That's extremely helpful.
Another thing that i would like to ask is that i see different ratios and a different number of "teeth" in the rear Torsen diffs (22 and 24 teeth). How can i know what's suitable for me?
@@leventis1991 please email me info@ladapower.com and I will help you
In a hill use 2nd gear that way all 4 wheels fo forward dobt turn left or right to gain power
in th minute 4:05 the torsen dont work because torsen dont need tc locked . that torsen is damage
What does "TC" stand for?
Transfer Case
My experience says that 90% of Niva capabilities are in a proper tyres.
This is true in many but not in all cases. Some tires (e.g. Simex Centipede profile) are far too aggressive for the Niva resulting in axle breaks. And when your flex is maxed out and tires are not on the ground, you are stuck. Then you need four people hanging on the side of Niva to give it enough weight that the tire hits the ground. Long time hardcore Niva offroader here. I've seen and done it all ;)
Awesome shit!
why you didnt showed the niva with locked tc? if you think your product is better and claim to do an honest video show every aspect. I was considering of buying torsen diffs but after this video i WILL NOT buy them!
Thank you for your question, sank. The reason for this was to show the slipping wheel on the open diff and advantage of the torsen differential face to face. We are not tried to show how to pass that slope correctly. With the locked TC diff stock Niva will pass it. No questions. Niva with the torsen differentials is much more useful for any terrain than the standard one. We did a fair test. All our customers are very happy with the result.
Sounded crunchy ..... where was the Microphone !!
KIITOS!!
Driving too slow on stock Lada, give it more and it will climb that hill with ease.
All these limited slip differentials are a joke...torsen, wavetrac, etc... The wheels still spin just like before. What they need to do is put a torque converter type control on the differential gears. That way the amount of slip would be limited.
No LED, only incandescant.
pull a little hand brake...
Elixan
Coq qesenq
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Pubg bring me here
на стоковой ниве чувак делает так что бы не проехал
BUT DIAGONAL PROBLEM
Question: "Do you realy need Torsen differential for Your Lada Niva?"
Answer: Yes! But if you aren't a real offroad driver only.
Why?
"(...) With the locked TC diff stock Niva will pass that slope. (...)".
Nothing more, nothing less...
No doubt - differential TORSEN increases terrain capabilities of Lada Niva. Especially for "idiot-drivers".
One question: doesn't TC locked will damage the TORSEN front and rear differentials?
Alguien en español q me diga q nomás tiene puesto? :’v
El Niva ? Todos los videos del canal LadaPower, los accesorios los instalan en ese Niva. Checalos
any audi quattro will easily do these challenges
Wannes De Backer a4 and up yes, but the a4 and up quattro have torsen differentials front rear and centre anyway, as they said a standard niva would piss up the hill if they were trying, just demonstrating how it works
how many times can you show the same shit.. ”Stock niva without tc locked........
lass deine scheissmusik weg. deswegen daumen nach unten.
BUT DIAGONAL PROBLEM
It is not a problem, you just need to install another 💯 locking differential.
@@LadaPower which is parfect lock which is as simple as torsen,i want to add with torsen
@@SAADSAAD-bi6og please email me info@ladapower.com and tell me year of your Lada Niva