We live in a dangerous world . Egotism crime frustration partiality separatism racism fascism overpopulation pollution climate-change migration etcetera . So how can one be complete sane in an unsane world ?
I love his mind but feel his personal opinions still come through which perhaps limited his impact. Still more brilliant and deeply honest than I will likely achieve
What is desire?: the concept that there is a “ better something” other than what is right now. What if my desire is to appreciate more deeply all I am aware of as it occurs? What is the sensation of desire?: do I notice a change in bio chemistry and tension ie. “Emotion”. Is emotion the same as sensation, or is it sensation plus personal preference? Does “ attachment” narrow focus and create thought that robs us of both awareness of sensation and any appreciation of it? Is desire How thought “hooks” attention away from sensation? Can I learn from sensation without dialogue? Apparently not lol..
That is because most of the people do not want change , they want to go on with their egotism , competition , gossip , concepts , conditions , symbolism , prejudice , etcetera ... Alas ...
I am in love with this man. To desire, to crave for success is to crave for being loved. It is the compelling need to be convinced of something of which we are not inwardly convinced. It is the fight for the conquest of a lost crown. It is the fight of our parent, of our brother, of our neighbour, of the foreigner, of our enemy. It is a cancer that unites us all. And yet this cancer that is a terminal disease affects us all. The very nature of this disease informs us of the very answer to this need. We are not alone. We are one. Beautiful, alive, mortal, ever-transforming, ever-dying, ever-living beings.
I had been seeing his snippets on Social media. I took the time out today to search him. This is my first time listening to his lecture, I didn't really understand and your comment really made it so perfect and clear. Thank you very much!!! 👍👍👍
“ you have ashes on your head and you go to temples and stuff, and you haven’t even asked yourself these questions” I like this direct sort of spiritual scolding.
Towards the end of the talk he expresses so much pain for the stupidity with which we are living our lives, he is so frustrated as how have been living so ignorantly.. I feel his pain.
The issue is we have made a societal system that encourages this mindset it's trapped the world and the world thinks playing by society's rules is the correct way to live life.
I seem to be the only one " Baffled by the fact that everything he says is so NOW...Yet..... this recording was nearly 40 years ago.... Fastforward to 2019.......this man is truly Nostradamical.........
The same shit show has been going on for centuries regardless of whether one believes in Jesus or Buddha or anything else that smacks of religion. Same thing day.
Wow im like crying at end!! Such a PROFOUND unbelievably simple awareness to create in between these very critical basic things happening within..and ive NEVER heard to just ask these things..we all wandered sooooo far away....its hard to recognize the depth of pain it's caused way too many people!! Appreciate you all.. appreciate this man!!
Might be government will not allow to include his teachings in the syllabus because his teachings do not favour nationalism , idealism and the modern economy system .
@@malayaranjanagasty4027 . Jiddu said : no theism no atheism no islam no bible no thora no gita no capitalism no nationalism no communism , etcetera , NO SEPARATION . Yes he was (and still is on youtube and in books) the master of masters , better than buddha jesus muhammed etcetera ...
Just listening to him makes me realise that my perception of life is so small. We all heard words mindfulness, consciousness, meditativeness. But having the taste of these concepts is remote possibility for many of us all the time
Towards the end he was crying with pain and along with him I was too. I am happy that in today's time he is no more physically. He would have shattered by seeing the condition of this world today.
Agradeço por essa mensagem. Estou percebendo a mente com essa luz que Jidu mostra com simplicidade. Sou grata aos responsáveis pelo canal. Essa chance é única.
The way K. answers to questions is like a poem, like a composer developing a symphony, there´s a recurring theme, each time stronger and clearer, to finally unleash a powerful and brilliant ending.
The way he answers to the questions is amazing as if he is peeling thought and associated words thought takes shelter not touching the core of the thought
i'm impressed at those last few minutes of the video. At about 41:41.He was like feeling sorry for all those people that had grown up, ashes were in their head. I understand it deeply,
One of his more AMAZING talks. Here he is more direct and admonishing than I've ever seen him. And expressing real compassion ❤️ for our collective foolishness and self-deceipt.
Life has no failures at all, while the mind is filled with it's projections of how Life 'should be'. The projections cannot not end in failure, because they are not in accord with Life...
This man is insightful, caring, and wholeheartedly compassionate in all of his words. I am so happy to have discovered of his existence. I want everyone to know of him. Also I love the way he asks "Do you understand my question?"
I think that what he said is more in the nature of an invitation to explore the true nature of desire in our own minds and the role of our minds in that, and is not meant to be another message from a guru. To actually see something rather than to convert it into more thought I would think would result in real change, although I can't say that I have succeeded in doing that other than to take my own desires less seriously
First of all to know who I am to learned more of me since today. I bought a book of this man on a secondhand book store. This man is great with all his teachings.
He is a true human being. His every video is something that strengthens a man's character, if someone wants to see the true nature of themselves. But in reality no one wants to, everybody wants to speak some spiritual truth. But none of them wants to perform it. Thank you for saving and sharing his videos. His every videos touches my mind which I was everlastingly seeking.
If you've ever wondered what divinity would sound like if it became frustrated with man... Here's your sign. We make everything difficult when all is done for us. Like babies slapping away the food we know we need and want but choosing to ignore our senses and screaming in anger, "Why is this happening!?" Let us calm down and recognize we've always been the power we've sought outside ourselves.
@@vipuldwivedi5673 It's pretty subtle. He's laughing inside. If you follow his thought one begins to laugh with him. K is a joyous event, not a solemn one.
What he is actually saying is that the crows in the background that you hear,are just as important as what he is telling you. Listening to the world of sound is just the sensation that you need too feel enough. Listen to the crows ,they tell a story.
Yes. It's an animal totem a crow/crows appear when you are being asked to tell the truth. Not shy away. They also pass on to the rest of the denizens what is being said. Haha I believe so. It's my favorite medicine. Truth medicine.
The key is awareness, awareness, awareness become the subject of our own study and having fun with it in the process without repressing, denying, judging or just act upon on it but simply contemplate the moment between feeling and desire..what a beauty 🧐.. that’s definitely timeless because not only we will find the root cause of that specific desire but the reason of its own pure existence..
Can u explain what does he mean by this description :(if you wanna be a good chemist and good biologist,That very subject becomes the means of training and descipline)?
I can't recall which Krishnamurti video it was in the past i saw where he talked about thoughts ego and emotions, and then it just hit me, i got chills and couldn't stop laughing, i was just thinking 'ITS THAT SIMPLE HOLYY SHIT' Haven't been same since.
"If you want to give meaning to your life, it's not life. It's another escape from yourself, from what you are" ... Of course it's a desire, to conjugate a meaning to your paralyzed life.... You want your life a very special one, not ordinary, without doing anything about it, simply following the way the world is that is everybody does the same, coming suffering the rotten way of public education which is the foundation of all the rest. This way of thinking might help ... it has been working for me. I have three parts in my life: adult life, childhood (maybe two here, as much as I can remember and that part I cannot remember), and ... the prenatal life. And conditioning started after this (for some wealthy traditional families would have started even before). The part that I cannot remember, I still have ways to feel about it, by asking or assuming or intellectual/ educated guessing process ... which is perhaps more important, to understand myself. How about answering your child for such the question and all you know is negative that the child would not like to have remembered...? You might like to conjugate that part ... So, where is the truth? I have to find it, for an urgent changes to occur. However, other than someone I know, do some people recall how it was like to be settling and growing in the womb, as physical formation process, at the least? Sure we can find some general idea from the medical research! Could there be some kind of spiritual seed planted at the beginning of this stage, as well? Jesus said "Leave 99 sheep you have collected and look for the one lost sheep." And he also said that one must thread together all the jewels of memories into all one, and see as one whole piece, for the total understanding of me, to come. God bless humanity. We humans are the light bearers. We must do our job right, by understanding ourselves, the first and the foremost. And K says, "Be the Light to Yourself."
My ultimate hero is Nelson Mandela - despite immense real suffering he succeeded in becoming a happy person, serving others, being humble and happy, finding sense in his life and inspiring countless others!
Is desire of something that is neccessity is bad ? Desire the need ,not the greed . And we all know what is need and what is greed . here clarity helps you to distinguish.
One of the most fundamental things in human life is to differentiate the mind thought from the present situation!!it is necessary to be fully present in the present moment to realize ,the real!!
It is not to summarise what he was saying, the desire comes through sensation seeing, hearing etc, then thought take over and grow it to become Desire, if we see the things like beautiful building or women and doesn't register it in our thoughts, then we can live a liberated life.
I understood that to understand J.K.'s teachings people should have enough courage to question themself, should get out of their conditioned minds to understand the question and answer it, and should have a real interest in seeking the answer. because he means every word he uses and with so much intensity he delivers a word like arrow
@Alcina Amara yes ma'am it is our culture..if we love somebody then we bow down to that person ..I am 25 in age ma'am..so how can I know him somatically..but he was from India ,born in mandanapalli (Andhra Pradesh).I am also from same country else are same for you and me😊 one interesting fact I can add about him that before his birth there was a prophecy in book that a man is going to born in India who will the next incarnation of Lord Buddha and theosophical society mainly annie besant identified him on a bank of a river,where he was wandering,a boy with great aura..in this way his journey started but look at his greatness...he never used the prophecy..he was completely a selfless person .. that's what I know about .. thank ma'am
@Alcina Amara is it necessary to know ma'am?if a hungry boy asked for food and you give him food with compassion then do you ask him,which country you belong to,what is your caste etc,no,you just helped him and this is love in my perception..when you driven by empathy not by sympathy.
The root of suffering isn't desire, but one's incorrect interpretation of the root(s) or the nature of our desire(s). Ex: I don't desire water, I desire to quench my thirst. I don't desire a romantic partner, I desire to fulfill my romantic needs. I don't desire food, I desire to satisfy my nutritional needs. I don't desire a better pillow, I desire better and more comfortable sleep. I don't desire to be a lawyer, I desire to serve justice (or I desire power, prestige, what have you). What is the root cause of your desire? If you attach your desire to objects and people, you are likely to continue suffering so long as you totally misunderstand what is that inner desire (that lack, whether actual or perceived) that you are really seeking to fulfill.
Tina G Vardanyan what you are saying is who? The thought finding it’s meaning through words and examples through experience. But who decides what is desire and who is sensitive to these desires? Then again another desire to stop and tread more carefully.
That is a more difficult question to answer. I may be a totality - a whole mind, the entire mathematics of me that is doing the calculations in favor or against a given thing within a given environment. Or I might be the product of a single formula that is guiding the totality of me within a given environment. Then again, I might be something entirely different. Since I don't know the "who", for now I can be satisfied with knowing the "what" (what attracts and repels me in the present moment) and if I can, also know and understand the "why". Why did I decide for or against this? What might be the root cause for my desire to do or have this and not that? Perhaps "who" is that which is eternally unfolding and is the ever-evolving brainchild of "what". The best practical comparison would be microevolution vs. macroevolution, with the former determining and deciding the outcome of the latter. And knowing the "why" can help guide me towards a more fulfilling and more personal unfolding that isn't so unique to me personally, but rather connects me on a deeper level to everyone else. Since there's less variation (if at all) in our core needs than there are available means by which to fulfill those core needs. @@parasmehta5114
Tina G Vardanyan Just like a dream at night the world we see at day is a mere projection of our thoughts. There is a script to this show and we are just actors. Only thing to realise is that we are the screen and our thoughts and actions are the screenplay or acting. The true liberation is in self enquiry and self awareness which leads to a consciousness. The consciousness is itself a puzzle. The word “I” you saying is who? Is it consciousness? Or someone else observing?
@@parasmehta5114 What I am writing now is not a projection of your thoughts, but of mine. I am projecting in response to your own thoughts, and hence our relative coexistence: relative as in inter-related. This platform that the creator named RUclips is neither my own projection nor is it yours, unless we contribute to its content, like we are doing right now. And even then this platform is not our personal projection. We're but small contributors to its content. Another example: The tree that grows in your back yard is a projection of your own thoughts IF you came up with the idea to plant it. But the trees in your neighborhood are thought projections of the people who run your city, or your neighbors who may have suggested the idea to the city to have those trees planted there. Yes, the world we see at day is a projection of our thoughts, but I can assure you that you didn't project most of the atrocities nor beauty that surrounds us all. We all play our own part, directly or indirectly, wittingly or unwittingly, however small or large the scale of our contribution.
Sensation is normal and healthy. Then thought appropriates the sensation and creates an image - of 'Me with that house / car / etc.' This is how desire is born. Thus we are slave to desire.
The answer to his question: what happens after sensation? The answer he ‘expects’ from the audience is ‘thought comes in and creates an image and desire is born’. Ordinarily I would say just I (not my thought) desire it! So I identify thought as myself! It takes some clarity in oneself to understand that it is thought after all! But what is thought anyway? Never mind my comments, I am just talking to myself, out loud :)
@@shivysingh5110 to quote from K himself from another of his speech: "Thinking is the response of memory, the response of knowledge, of experience"... Experience create knowledge, it is then stored in the brain as memory, then the memory responds to sensation. And as you said, K did say here that thought too is a type of sensation...probably he meant it is a type of sensation, because it is borne out of sensation/experience; stored up in the brain as knowledge, therefore a memory. Then it comes out as thought in response to a sensation/experience and the whole thing then goes on and on.. To quote K again: "What do we mean by thought? When do you think? Obviously, thought is the result of a response, neurological or psychological, is it not? It is the immediate response of the senses to a sensation, or it is psychological, the response of stored-up memory. There is the immediate response of the nerves to a sensation, and there is the psychological response of stored-up memory, the influence of race, group, guru, family, tradition, and so on-all of which you call thought. So, the thought process is the response of memory, is it not? You would have no thoughts if you had no memory, and the response of memory to a certain experience brings the thought process into action."
Humans have evolved from 1 sense to 6th sense being and to be successful is to get ahead which is become apart of him....its by nature we with or without conscious we are evolving.
It might be hard to understand if you have not done vipassana meditation. Once you become hyper aware through meditation, what he's talking about is alot easier to understand. Every external stimuli you receive, there is a sensation in the body. You then react to those sensations by averting or attaching to them. It's a natural human mechancism that happens subconsciously. But be careful when you do vipassana for the experiential learning because you will be able to sense those sensations without external stimuli. You might get attached to them or avert from them. Stay equanimous... To simply observe without thought or annotations to the external stimuli, you cease the desire.
@@daisymartinez5363 Where will your awareness be when you are to experience the sensations that arise before you form your thoughts? Meditation is a form of training awareness. Vipassana is a form of meditation that focuses on body sensations. People have different perspectives that help them understand. You really don't have to experience it. Just pointing out something that I had in mind.
That's cool but why label it this or that...All these noble traditions lead to more expectations and ambitions. Also there is no need to do anything "without thought", you just have to observe the thought like you observe everything else.
Sadly I can't always get full grasp of his beautiful words but whatever portion I capture , it makes total sense. One day I will be able to understand the full meaning. Its a journey.
For 60 years K - as he is called as his name is long! - spoke and engaged and spoke and engaged and tried SO hard to penetrate the barriers. Only a few could understand, I feel. Living in the west it is hard to live without 'ambition' but in Indian culture I think it is harder, with 'ashes and temples' making people feel 'spiritually superior' over others.
desire, to answer his question - paused the video- is something a thought an urge an impulse that arises and jumps up a deep inside dug a hole that wants more sth more anything more a burning flame that seeks more so as to become full and feel enough; it never does actually
I ran across bob 14 years ago, I was in the street life do illegal activity, Bob words what do you want change my life! I always wanted to be a therapist or counselor or mentor of some sort, I started my Infinite Source Management Firm life coaching, learned all I know from abandoning friends and family to venture off into the entire USA to test out my strengths and weaknesses to see how I would survive and thrive I did, I’ve been traveling doing my life Coaching on the road and I think I’m the only one doing it! I said I wouldn’t do videos of what I’m do or solely document it!
My failure is a blessings 🥳🥳this question related to most of us 😌😌in 2019 one shock reveals everything in my life 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏masters are always here to help us in different bodies 🙌🙌🙌
Who else is listening to these amazing human beings with great of wisdom at 2024..❤
This man totally changed my life....gave me life....opened my eyes and heart....no words can describe it ..... finally, sanity.
Right
If he only knew how many have gained freedom thanks to him, the most wonderful human ever to walk on earth.
@@jaabaadaabaaadoo that i can say that to ! through these videos. I can say . He has a giving nature!!!!! Love it must be😂.
We live in a dangerous world . Egotism crime frustration partiality separatism racism fascism overpopulation pollution climate-change migration etcetera . So how can one be complete sane in an unsane world ?
Same here...the game changer indeed ❤
Sadly not that many people know of this amazing man.
Sorry sir...you are here it means you love him..water is a worthy thing for those who has thirst.... Krishnamurti is like water..
@stnec5 PCC thanks
I love his mind but feel his personal opinions still come through which perhaps limited his impact. Still more brilliant and deeply honest than I will likely achieve
What is desire?: the concept that there is a “ better something” other than what is right now. What if my desire is to appreciate more deeply all I am aware of as it occurs? What is the sensation of desire?: do I notice a change in bio chemistry and tension ie. “Emotion”. Is emotion the same as sensation, or is it sensation plus personal preference? Does “ attachment” narrow focus and create thought that robs us of both awareness of sensation and any appreciation of it? Is desire How thought “hooks” attention away from sensation? Can I learn from sensation without dialogue? Apparently not lol..
That is because most of the people do not want change , they want to go on with their egotism , competition , gossip , concepts , conditions , symbolism , prejudice , etcetera ... Alas ...
Jiddu Krishnamurti should be taught at all schools worldwide from today on..
Truth cannot be shoved
I'm living with the teachings of JK for the last 6years. I am totally transformed
I started yesterday ... lets see how far can I go
@@avimehenwal what kind of things you will apply?
JK"s tan have become dogma to you now
If you are confirming, did you really ?
Can you tell me ur learning for the last 6 years
I am in love with this man. To desire, to crave for success is to crave for being loved. It is the compelling need to be convinced of something of which we are not inwardly convinced. It is the fight for the conquest of a lost crown. It is the fight of our parent, of our brother, of our neighbour, of the foreigner, of our enemy. It is a cancer that unites us all. And yet this cancer that is a terminal disease affects us all. The very nature of this disease informs us of the very answer to this need. We are not alone. We are one. Beautiful, alive, mortal, ever-transforming, ever-dying, ever-living beings.
He is a rare diamond !
So the answer is there is nothing called success or failure...its all about fulfillment or non fulfillment of ur desires. 😀😀 Thanks JK 🙏🙏
I had been seeing his snippets on Social media. I took the time out today to search him. This is my first time listening to his lecture, I didn't really understand and your comment really made it so perfect and clear. Thank you very much!!! 👍👍👍
“ you have ashes on your head and you go to temples and stuff, and you haven’t even asked yourself these questions”
I like this direct sort of spiritual scolding.
It is true. People spend time on rituals and spend less time trying to accumulate the wisdom in these books.
And you can hear and see the pain and compassion for our childishness...
Jiddu is pretty much a zen master, but he wouldn't even accept such arrogance, so yeah.
I am so glad, somebody said it. Cheers Lee
@@ni5hu don't accumulate knowledge. JK said 'knowledge prevents self understanding'
Nature was speaking with this man wow
The universe is talking through his mouth without any distortion
His insight is completely touching the divine
I told myself „I got it“. This was also the moment I understood that I don‘t.
Greatest Teacher ever. I wish JK was my teacher right from school. Better late than never.....
He wasn’t a perfect teacher of teenagers.
He is phenomenal!
Ya
Towards the end of the talk he expresses so much pain for the stupidity with which we are living our lives, he is so frustrated as how have been living so ignorantly.. I feel his pain.
Mee too . I am in pain , to see the world not getting any better ...
"I" is the essence of pain
The issue is we have made a societal system that encourages this mindset it's trapped the world and the world thinks playing by society's rules is the correct way to live life.
He teaches me to still my mind! After 65 years something has to sink in, and with JK's immense intelligence, i finally get it!
How much time did it take to still your mind?
You got it..... That means you absolutely lost it😂😂😂😂
@@Mahesh.with.Honda.CB350 you right,,,,, jk said that the moment one said that I attain it, he immediately lost it 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@laganmahurat it sounds like to quick to judge maybe he means he’s got the understanding of JK teachings
@@solomit1 Unfortunately it is just understanding of K.'s words.. It is not the real ACTION, real freedom
I seem to be the only one " Baffled by the fact that everything he says is so NOW...Yet..... this recording was nearly 40 years ago.... Fastforward to 2019.......this man is truly Nostradamical.........
Truth is eternal.
The same shit show has been going on for centuries regardless of whether one believes in Jesus or Buddha or anything else that smacks of religion. Same thing
day.
Yep it will always be relevant even if we were to live till the year 3000
This man shows me the true path of happiness! Thank you Krishnamurti ji.
His existence is blessing even today!!!!🤗🌼🌹🦚
Wow im like crying at end!! Such a PROFOUND unbelievably simple awareness to create in between these very critical basic things happening within..and ive NEVER heard to just ask these things..we all wandered sooooo far away....its hard to recognize the depth of pain it's caused way too many people!! Appreciate you all.. appreciate this man!!
Krishnamurti should be taught in school and collages.
Might be government will not allow to include his teachings in the syllabus because his teachings do not favour nationalism , idealism and the modern economy system .
@@malayaranjanagasty4027 . Jiddu said : no theism no atheism no islam no bible no thora no gita no capitalism no nationalism no communism , etcetera , NO SEPARATION . Yes he was (and still is on youtube and in books) the master of masters , better than buddha jesus muhammed etcetera ...
@@alainmaitre2069 I think we should not compare any one with the other one . And for me Krishnamurti is an old loving man with full of wisdom.
Then you would have to think first. Don't think so.
his schools are there to do that
Just listening to him makes me realise that my perception of life is so small. We all heard words mindfulness, consciousness, meditativeness. But having the taste of these concepts is remote possibility for many of us all the time
Towards the end he was crying with pain and along with him I was too. I am happy that in today's time he is no more physically. He would have shattered by seeing the condition of this world today.
It is the same world, the same self
true. K thought India alone was going downhill...but look around, rest of world is doing even worse
When thought enters, desire and ego takes charge.
and therefore conflict
And how are you even going to become aware of desire and ego if you don’t think? Absolutely illogical.
@@nccamsc Observing your thoughts is a form of pure awareness, distinct from the active process of thinking.
Agradeço por essa mensagem. Estou percebendo a mente com essa luz que Jidu mostra com simplicidade. Sou grata aos responsáveis pelo canal. Essa chance é única.
The way K. answers to questions is like a poem, like a composer developing a symphony, there´s a recurring theme, each time stronger and clearer, to finally unleash a powerful and brilliant ending.
That is a very accurate description of the poetic experience. Poetry and Music are one.
I feel the same. Well said.
Brilliant explanation 🎉
It's called understanding
Extraordinary gentleman a real teacher and a guide for lifetime
Love the ashes and the failures, that is very simple.
This msg comes to me on my birthday to seek knowledge...
This great man is finally satisfying my confusions ❤
After watching his speech , and reading his book I abondon the god worshipping!!
All present gurus have their root in Krishnamurti.
Zen says + now a days there are many self proclaimed gurus. They are lacking in Wisdom like J.krishnamurti.
A.S. Balasooriya
‘With all their silly nonsense’ as he said.
That’s so true
you mean none
The way he answers to the questions is amazing as if he is peeling thought and associated words thought takes shelter not touching the core of the thought
i'm impressed at those last few minutes of the video. At about 41:41.He was like feeling sorry for all those people that had grown up, ashes were in their head. I understand it deeply,
One of his more AMAZING talks. Here he is more direct and admonishing than I've ever seen him. And expressing real compassion ❤️ for our collective foolishness and self-deceipt.
His greatness that can't be expressed by mere words
Life has no failures at all, while the mind is filled with it's projections of how Life 'should be'. The projections cannot not end in failure, because they are not in accord with Life...
This videos sorted out my lot of doubts and show me the path to move ahead peacefully
This man is insightful, caring, and wholeheartedly compassionate in all of his words. I am so happy to have discovered of his existence. I want everyone to know of him.
Also I love the way he asks "Do you understand my question?"
Great talk
Thank you "K" 🙏
People have to be "Serious" in order to understand your talks😇
Naman..🙏🙏
I think that what he said is more in the nature of an invitation to explore the true nature of desire in our own minds and the role of our minds in that, and is not meant to be another message from a guru. To actually see something rather than to convert it into more thought I would think would result in real change, although I can't say that I have succeeded in doing that other than to take my own desires less seriously
Failure is the result of trying new things or methods, without failure there would be no improvement, keep trying, embrace failure.
I am what I am today only because if sirs teachings .Hope many more learn to change themselves too .🙏
His compassion for his audience is palpable. Incredible
Laozi: “Freedom from desire leads to inner peace.”
And now I desire freedom from desire
This man changed my life. He opened my eyes and taught me how to see and appreciate the world and everything in. May God bless j krishnamurti...❤
First of all to know who I am to learned more of me since today. I bought a book of this man on a secondhand book store. This man is great with all his teachings.
Pl understand that what is going to happen will happen & what is not going to happen will never happen.
He is a true human being. His every video is something that strengthens a man's character, if someone wants to see the true nature of themselves. But in reality no one wants to, everybody wants to speak some spiritual truth. But none of them wants to perform it. Thank you for saving and sharing his videos. His every videos touches my mind which I was everlastingly seeking.
Beautiful !
I appreciate this man sooo much!! What insight..love it!! Mat we all hear or know this important concept now!! Beautiful!!!
Great made me think a lot
Beyond words. We have to do it.
Great content. A lot of love to everyone from the Beautiful Islands of Trinidad and Tobago 💞.
If you've ever wondered what divinity would sound like if it became frustrated with man... Here's your sign.
We make everything difficult when all is done for us. Like babies slapping away the food we know we need and want but choosing to ignore our senses and screaming in anger, "Why is this happening!?"
Let us calm down and recognize we've always been the power we've sought outside ourselves.
This was very very funny. I laughed out loud at least 5 times. What fun!
What is so funny in it? 🙄
@@vipuldwivedi5673 It's pretty subtle. He's laughing inside. If you follow his thought one begins to laugh with him. K is a joyous event, not a solemn one.
What he is actually saying is that the crows in the background that you hear,are just as important as what he is telling you. Listening to the world of sound is just the sensation that you need too feel enough. Listen to the crows ,they tell a story.
The dumb will laugh,the wise will understand.
Yes. It's an animal totem a crow/crows appear when you are being asked to tell the truth. Not shy away.
They also pass on to the rest of the denizens what is being said. Haha I believe so. It's my favorite medicine. Truth medicine.
I don't understand why anyone would dislike this video
Maybe they are bound by their desires
The key is awareness, awareness, awareness become the subject of our own study and having fun with it in the process without repressing, denying, judging or just act upon on it but simply contemplate the moment between feeling and desire..what a beauty 🧐.. that’s definitely timeless because not only we will find the root cause of that specific desire but the reason of its own pure existence..
Can u explain what does he mean by this description :(if you wanna be a good chemist and good biologist,That very subject becomes the means of training and descipline)?
I can't recall which Krishnamurti video it was in the past i saw where he talked about thoughts ego and emotions, and then it just hit me, i got chills and couldn't stop laughing, i was just thinking 'ITS THAT SIMPLE HOLYY SHIT' Haven't been same since.
Any idea which video could it be?
Thanks so much for sharing God blessed
"If you want to give meaning to your life, it's not life. It's another escape from yourself, from what you are" ... Of course it's a desire, to conjugate a meaning to your paralyzed life.... You want your life a very special one, not ordinary, without doing anything about it, simply following the way the world is that is everybody does the same, coming suffering the rotten way of public education which is the foundation of all the rest.
This way of thinking might help ... it has been working for me.
I have three parts in my life: adult life, childhood (maybe two here, as much as I can remember and that part I cannot remember), and ... the prenatal life. And conditioning started after this (for some wealthy traditional families would have started even before).
The part that I cannot remember, I still have ways to feel about it, by asking or assuming or intellectual/ educated guessing process ... which is perhaps more important, to understand myself. How about answering your child for such the question and all you know is negative that the child would not like to have remembered...? You might like to conjugate that part ... So, where is the truth? I have to find it, for an urgent changes to occur.
However, other than someone I know, do some people recall how it was like to be settling and growing in the womb, as physical formation process, at the least? Sure we can find some general idea from the medical research! Could there be some kind of spiritual seed planted at the beginning of this stage, as well?
Jesus said "Leave 99 sheep you have collected and look for the one lost sheep."
And he also said that one must thread together all the jewels of memories into all one, and see as one whole piece, for the total understanding of me, to come.
God bless humanity. We humans are the light bearers. We must do our job right, by understanding ourselves, the first and the foremost.
And K says, "Be the Light to Yourself."
Learning is everlasting
Knowing is finite 😮
Only attention nothing else.
My regards
My biggest challenge is moving on knowing the world is so unfair.
A true man ,and boldly speaking absolutely true which words are for ever
Great Revelation !
Aeareness of desire creation by thought ;
and total attention to sensation without thought frees the mind
Awareness of desire
This talk is really motivation pleasing and magnetic personality you have sir.
He never talked about motivation. Motivation is ego's action in a certain direction for 'becoming '
My ultimate hero is Nelson Mandela - despite immense real suffering he succeeded in becoming a happy person, serving others, being humble and happy, finding sense in his life and inspiring countless others!
And not above using violence to achieve his goals
Sorry Mandela also succumbed to worldly desires in his last days.
What does it matter if he did, he was human nontheless?
my god deepest you’ll feel every words of him specially the way he make us and our mind curious by asking the very fundamental and real question ❤
Is desire of something that is neccessity is bad ?
Desire the need ,not the greed . And we all know what is need and what is greed . here clarity helps you to distinguish.
One of the most fundamental things in human life is to differentiate the mind thought from the present situation!!it is necessary to be fully present in the present moment to realize ,the real!!
Wonderful. Always fresh.
It is not to summarise what he was saying, the desire comes through sensation seeing, hearing etc, then thought take over and grow it to become Desire, if we see the things like beautiful building or women and doesn't register it in our thoughts, then we can live a liberated life.
I understood that
to understand J.K.'s teachings people should have enough courage to question themself, should get out of their conditioned minds to understand the question and answer it, and should have a real interest in seeking the answer.
because he means every word he uses and with so much intensity he delivers a word like arrow
The title of this one came straight from my own life. Failures and missed opportunities. Ashes
Bow down to you sir...you are a clean n fresh breeze.. whoever will take it ,will feel the beauty
@Alcina Amarasorry ma'am.. bowing down doesn't indicate that we are afraid or slave.. sometimes it's love of someone which make you to do that...
@Alcina Amara yes ma'am it is our culture..if we love somebody then we bow down to that person ..I am 25 in age ma'am..so how can I know him somatically..but he was from India ,born in mandanapalli (Andhra Pradesh).I am also from same country else are same for you and me😊 one interesting fact I can add about him that before his birth there was a prophecy in book that a man is going to born in India who will the next incarnation of Lord Buddha and theosophical society mainly annie besant identified him on a bank of a river,where he was wandering,a boy with great aura..in this way his journey started but look at his greatness...he never used the prophecy..he was completely a selfless person .. that's what I know about .. thank ma'am
@Alcina Amara is it necessary to know ma'am?if a hungry boy asked for food and you give him food with compassion then do you ask him,which country you belong to,what is your caste etc,no,you just helped him and this is love in my perception..when you driven by empathy not by sympathy.
@Alcina Amara absolutely you can ask but that's what i am telling you.. don't search logic to love someone..
@Alcina Amara yes ..
The root of suffering isn't desire, but one's incorrect interpretation of the root(s) or the nature of our desire(s). Ex: I don't desire water, I desire to quench my thirst. I don't desire a romantic partner, I desire to fulfill my romantic needs. I don't desire food, I desire to satisfy my nutritional needs. I don't desire a better pillow, I desire better and more comfortable sleep. I don't desire to be a lawyer, I desire to serve justice (or I desire power, prestige, what have you). What is the root cause of your desire? If you attach your desire to objects and people, you are likely to continue suffering so long as you totally misunderstand what is that inner desire (that lack, whether actual or perceived) that you are really seeking to fulfill.
Tina G Vardanyan what you are saying is who? The thought finding it’s meaning through words and examples through experience. But who decides what is desire and who is sensitive to these desires? Then again another desire to stop and tread more carefully.
That is a more difficult question to answer. I may be a totality - a whole mind, the entire mathematics of me that is doing the calculations in favor or against a given thing within a given environment. Or I might be the product of a single formula that is guiding the totality of me within a given environment. Then again, I might be something entirely different. Since I don't know the "who", for now I can be satisfied with knowing the "what" (what attracts and repels me in the present moment) and if I can, also know and understand the "why". Why did I decide for or against this? What might be the root cause for my desire to do or have this and not that? Perhaps "who" is that which is eternally unfolding and is the ever-evolving brainchild of "what". The best practical comparison would be microevolution vs. macroevolution, with the former determining and deciding the outcome of the latter. And knowing the "why" can help guide me towards a more fulfilling and more personal unfolding that isn't so unique to me personally, but rather connects me on a deeper level to everyone else. Since there's less variation (if at all) in our core needs than there are available means by which to fulfill those core needs. @@parasmehta5114
Tina G Vardanyan Just like a dream at night the world we see at day is a mere projection of our thoughts. There is a script to this show and we are just actors. Only thing to realise is that we are the screen and our thoughts and actions are the screenplay or acting. The true liberation is in self enquiry and self awareness which leads to a consciousness. The consciousness is itself a puzzle. The word “I” you saying is who? Is it consciousness? Or someone else observing?
@@parasmehta5114 What I am writing now is not a projection of your thoughts, but of mine. I am projecting in response to your own thoughts, and hence our relative coexistence: relative as in inter-related.
This platform that the creator named RUclips is neither my own projection nor is it yours, unless we contribute to its content, like we are doing right now. And even then this platform is not our personal projection. We're but small contributors to its content. Another example: The tree that grows in your back yard is a projection of your own thoughts IF you came up with the idea to plant it. But the trees in your neighborhood are thought projections of the people who run your city, or your neighbors who may have suggested the idea to the city to have those trees planted there. Yes, the world we see at day is a projection of our thoughts, but I can assure you that you didn't project most of the atrocities nor beauty that surrounds us all. We all play our own part, directly or indirectly, wittingly or unwittingly, however small or large the scale of our contribution.
Tina
What you read is not what you are! HOW TRUE.
Sensation is normal and healthy. Then thought appropriates the sensation and creates an image - of 'Me with that house / car / etc.' This is how desire is born. Thus we are slave to desire.
40:00 "So can thought abstain for a few seconds? That means tremendous awareness. Great attention."
I've Nothing to say But THANK YOU for posting this video ❤
Thank you.
The answer to his question: what happens after sensation? The answer he ‘expects’ from the audience is ‘thought comes in and creates an image and desire is born’. Ordinarily I would say just I (not my thought) desire it! So I identify thought as myself! It takes some clarity in oneself to understand that it is thought after all! But what is thought anyway?
Never mind my comments, I am just talking to myself, out loud :)
Well thought
He said it right there - thought too is a type of sensation. But interfere s with normal, healthy sensation.
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to quote from K himself from another of his speech:
"Thinking is the response of memory, the response of knowledge, of experience"...
Experience create knowledge, it is then stored in the brain as memory, then the memory responds to sensation. And as you said, K did say here that thought too is a type of sensation...probably he meant it is a type of sensation, because it is borne out of sensation/experience; stored up in the brain as knowledge, therefore a memory. Then it comes out as thought in response to a sensation/experience and the whole thing then goes on and on..
To quote K again:
"What do we mean by thought? When do you think? Obviously, thought is the result of a response, neurological or psychological, is it not? It is the immediate response of the senses to a sensation, or it is psychological, the response of stored-up memory. There is the immediate response of the nerves to a sensation, and there is the psychological response of stored-up memory, the influence of race, group, guru, family, tradition, and so on-all of which you call thought. So, the thought process is the response of memory, is it not? You would have no thoughts if you had no memory, and the response of memory to a certain experience brings the thought process into action."
Same thing happens to me every time.
Desire is Being itself
Humans have evolved from 1 sense to 6th sense being and to be successful is to get ahead which is become apart of him....its by nature we with or without conscious we are evolving.
It might be hard to understand if you have not done vipassana meditation. Once you become hyper aware through meditation, what he's talking about is alot easier to understand. Every external stimuli you receive, there is a sensation in the body. You then react to those sensations by averting or attaching to them. It's a natural human mechancism that happens subconsciously. But be careful when you do vipassana for the experiential learning because you will be able to sense those sensations without external stimuli. You might get attached to them or avert from them. Stay equanimous...
To simply observe without thought or annotations to the external stimuli, you cease the desire.
No. All you need is to be aware. All that takes is interest.
@@daisymartinez5363 Where will your awareness be when you are to experience the sensations that arise before you form your thoughts? Meditation is a form of training awareness. Vipassana is a form of meditation that focuses on body sensations. People have different perspectives that help them understand. You really don't have to experience it. Just pointing out something that I had in mind.
Do u feel a tingling sensation in you’re balls when u meditate ??
@@davidnolan8955 Always :)
That's cool but why label it this or that...All these noble traditions lead to more expectations and ambitions. Also there is no need to do anything "without thought", you just have to observe the thought like you observe everything else.
This is extremely simple but not I was not a bit aware of it.
I feel happy atleast i got a chance to listen this... great 👏👏👌👌
Humanity living in its wormhole even after evolution .
Sadly I can't always get full grasp of his beautiful words but whatever portion I capture , it makes total sense. One day I will be able to understand the full meaning. Its a journey.
It is not meant to be grasped, it is alive
He is true Angel 😇
For 60 years K - as he is called as his name is long! - spoke and engaged and spoke and engaged and tried SO hard to penetrate the barriers. Only a few could understand, I feel. Living in the west it is hard to live without 'ambition' but in Indian culture I think it is harder, with 'ashes and temples' making people feel 'spiritually superior' over others.
It's just the opposite, it's one way average Joe stays humble.
Thank you 🙏🏿❤️💫🌷😘
desire, to answer his question - paused the video-
is something
a thought
an urge
an impulse
that arises and jumps up a deep inside dug a hole that wants more
sth more
anything more
a burning flame that seeks more
so as to become full and feel enough; it never does actually
Great explanation. 👍🏽
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