Krishnamurti believed that thought is essentially mechanical and repetitive. It is rooted in memory, past experiences, and conditioning. Because it is based on the known, thought cannot bring about anything truly new or creative. Thought operates in a limited framework, bound by the confines of what has already been experienced or learned. In this sense, creativity does not emerge from thought but rather from a state beyond thought.
To be able to observe thought has to end. Otherwise you cannot see truth. As long as thought is operating you are looking with eyes from the past. “To see the world with eyes untouched by the past.” - Jiddu Krishnamurti
That’s an idea I’ve wanted to communicate to someone very close to me, they trust their thought perceptions so much and the fixedness of their thinking patterns is so clear to see..
So no mind, no self and that’s samadhi. And in that samadhi is awareness (wisdom). And in that pure awareness-being is liberation which is beyond the reach of mind. So, “I” thank “You” in which You being the way of universe, ie, you are that. So I am that I am.
That´s why the politicians never change the world, be it through wars, international lies, abusive taxes, vengeance, eternal crises. They never stop, their tense brains cannot see a thing, be it from the past, present or future; they must present production, or fear will take care of them... and if we touch That, we will blessed with love, compassion, intelligence, the truth, and on. The end of their violence, authoritarism, ambition, fear. Thanks for the video.
The ending of thought is essentially the ending of the ego because the ego is comprised of the beliefs we formed from experiences and knowledge in memory that are the fodder for thought.
JK was against all beliefs. He has stated the truth. Thought has created this society & one must understand the limitations of thinker & thought mechanism
You dont know what to desire, it is unkown state. It is always new, every time silence appears. When you observe the thoughts to their roots, you dont desire the truth you intend to find out the truth with courage, stronger then the fear of it.@@sherabwangchug3322
@@sherabwangchug3322 doesn't matter, you have to use your will to stay present or else other forces in form of thoughts come through you. After a long period of time there is no effort nor will or desire in that. You anyways can't live without a desire right now.
I had this experience of absolute silence one evening after trying to explain the mind to my aunt. I haven't had it again ever since but at least I know for sure that it is real.
Thx for uploading this clip. And it is important to upload these snippets because they are so concise. For me, it is hard to see the importance of being silence. Even if I understand it intellectually.
He is a man who is devoid of any dogmas, practices, methods, beliefs, etc and explored completely through self exploration. The limitation of the thought can be realized when our ego becomes arrogant if it feels that is becoming weaker.
I belief he is talking about the Ego, in which thought, and memory have a huge role to play. The ego kind of creates a limited world in humans and not matter what it does it will always be limited due to its Nature. In the cessation of Ego, there is space, unlimited space. But to come to this one must understand the whole STRUCTURE of the Ego. But most are afraid to even explore what Ego is and its influences...
Yes, whats being said here, has more implications than ‘be present’, ‘clear your mind’. We have tons of ‘experts’ and ‘gurus’ and ‘mental health specialists’ saying the same thing. Nobody listens to them. The implications of a silent mind being directly tied to fundamental change in society is what K dared to outline that other ‘mindfulness’ advocates don’t. It gets controversial. 😮✌🏻
I don't think it is easy to understand because it is very easy. Sometimes easiest ones are difficult to comprehend. I will try to add my understanding on what JK is saying. Every activity of human being comes into action because of thought and thought revolves around me (a superficial image built by default). This image/program takes space in mind. Once we able to make that space free by removing that image/program, the space is empty. Plz don't think about that image as being mean or thinking about themseleves only. If you think about others than also its coming from thoughts. So don't mistaken good or bad here. Its just thoughts and removing that creates space to allow something else to be there.
If one could make the distinction between the fact and the illusion/thought , then there would be much less confusion . Facts are way clearer than the 'feelings' !
Thought is the first step when leaving the present reality. Meditation, is present mediation of senses and the thoughts that may arise. Sense brings about thought, thought of past images. Meditation enables one to prune unproductive thought.patterns, brought about by present senses recalling past images. When not in active pruning meditation, remain present. Then, When you encounter thought, step back into present consciousness, or you leave the present to a theoritical concept made of past images. The Helper referred to in John 14, is the helper left in us, by the son of the one consciousness present in all. Our internal mediator, we converse with silently in meditation. Ever present, never ending, eternally present, all knowing, limitless knowledge…
What brings about the unconditional intention 'to want to swim' in humans ? To inquire ? Seeing intellectually that thought has produced a false idea of self with all its psychological becoming all the time seems not enough. What makes the penny drop ? It seems near impossible to get it across as a certain preparedness, openness seems necessary in the other when conversing. What brings it about ?
Its like you are statying in a house and when you cone out of it you have whole world. But inside uour house you are in a boundary of your house. But when you come out there is no boundary
It’s not about not thinking about it it’s about not adding or taking away from it. Just be there with it and everything else that arises and dissipates
When the thought ends, the Self "I Am" ends because "I Am" resides in thought. Then there is immense limitless space which was being limited by the "I Am" the limited local Self in thought. Is this the gist of this lecture?
these kind of people were/are responsible for india's present situation... your enemy are outside, world is outside, struggle is outside.. but all of this kind of guru ask you to go inside... 8 hrs sleep is enough to go inside man....
Krishnamurti believed that thought is essentially mechanical and repetitive. It is rooted in memory, past experiences, and conditioning. Because it is based on the known, thought cannot bring about anything truly new or creative. Thought operates in a limited framework, bound by the confines of what has already been experienced or learned. In this sense, creativity does not emerge from thought but rather from a state beyond thought.
But all of his talking is bunch of thoughts 😂😂😂
To be able to observe thought has to end. Otherwise you cannot see truth. As long as thought is operating you are looking with eyes from the past.
“To see the world with eyes untouched by the past.” - Jiddu Krishnamurti
That’s an idea I’ve wanted to communicate to someone very close to me, they trust their thought perceptions so much and the fixedness of their thinking patterns is so clear to see..
@@sudeerbabug9934 The listener makes what he/she wants from the wisdom of K !
That is your believe about K
Life, the reality isn't fragmented. But we are fragmented, and until it is seen, the holiness of the wholeness doesn't come.
I think that this video gives the core message of Jiddu Krishnamurthy.
One of the best videos of Jiddu, his message is clear.
Thanks for uploading this video.
👍Is clear
So no mind, no self and that’s samadhi. And in that samadhi is awareness (wisdom). And in that pure awareness-being is liberation which is beyond the reach of mind. So, “I” thank “You” in which You being the way of universe, ie, you are that. So I am that I am.
That´s why the politicians never change the world, be it through wars, international lies, abusive taxes, vengeance, eternal crises. They never stop, their tense brains cannot see a thing, be it from the past, present or future; they must present production, or fear will take care of them... and if we touch That, we will blessed with love, compassion, intelligence, the truth, and on. The end of their violence, authoritarism, ambition, fear. Thanks for the video.
That's a lot of "THEY". Politicians are people. We are people.
So, we must renounce this old , corrupt part installed in mind - the political mind.
So simple! Just observe!
Absolutely marvelous
This is the best explanation about ceasing the limitation on brain I have ever listened! Thank you so much. 🙏😃❤️
Thank you Krishnaji 🙏🙏❤️
The ending of thought is essentially the ending of the ego because the ego is comprised of the beliefs we formed from experiences and knowledge in memory that are the fodder for thought.
The ending of the go is essentially literal death, so...
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Love this talk so much. Never seen him so full of life.
The end of becoming (something/anything) makes the transition to being (no attributes/nothing/not a thing) 💚🙏 !
What transition?
An enlightened human being. Love you, K.
JK was against all beliefs. He has stated the truth. Thought has created this society & one must understand the limitations of thinker & thought mechanism
Only Truth from this Great Man❤
Don't think, just be aware of the present. Remain in this state longer and longer. Don't overcomplicate it
Wanting to remain in that state is a desire and that is conditioned too
You dont know what to desire, it is unkown state. It is always new, every time silence appears. When you observe the thoughts to their roots, you dont desire the truth you intend to find out the truth with courage, stronger then the fear of it.@@sherabwangchug3322
@@sherabwangchug3322 doesn't matter, you have to use your will to stay present or else other forces in form of thoughts come through you. After a long period of time there is no effort nor will or desire in that. You anyways can't live without a desire right now.
@@sherabwangchug3322there's nothing wrong with desire it's what you have desired for
Aum...beyond words and imaginations is just pure silent bliss...I love all enlightened actions= so magnifisant and beautyful...best company ever.Aum❤
Jiddu, the great.
I had this experience of absolute silence one evening after trying to explain the mind to my aunt. I haven't had it again ever since but at least I know for sure that it is real.
Thx for uploading this clip. And it is important to upload these snippets because they are so concise. For me, it is hard to see the importance of being silence. Even if I understand it intellectually.
The importance is in the change
He is a man who is devoid of any dogmas, practices, methods, beliefs, etc and explored completely through self exploration. The limitation of the thought can be realized when our ego becomes arrogant if it feels that is becoming weaker.
The conscious mind is limited.
The subconscious mind is infinite.
So clear......What a great teacher!!❤
The entire narrative about him not being jagatguru, was that he was not clear
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I belief he is talking about the Ego, in which thought, and memory have a huge role to play. The ego kind of creates a limited world in humans and not matter what it does it will always be limited due to its Nature. In the cessation of Ego, there is space, unlimited space. But to come to this one must understand the whole STRUCTURE of the Ego. But most are afraid to even explore what Ego is and its influences...
JK 🙏🙏🙏
Just be a witness
Very logical, the expansion.
Yes, whats being said here, has more implications than ‘be present’, ‘clear your mind’. We have tons of ‘experts’ and ‘gurus’ and ‘mental health specialists’ saying the same thing. Nobody listens to them.
The implications of a silent mind being directly tied to fundamental change in society is what K dared to outline that other ‘mindfulness’ advocates don’t. It gets controversial. 😮✌🏻
Very powerful teaching 🙏🙏🙏
❤ Stop, here in the presence of the Lord 🙏
Unnameble.🎉🎉
Gratidão por esse video
Blew my mind
In order to reach the destination, a person constantly measures himself against the environment. Just like an autonomous car. We act like a machine
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thought has divided itself into thought and the thinker when thought comes to an end so does the thinker
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I don't think it is easy to understand because it is very easy. Sometimes easiest ones are difficult to comprehend. I will try to add my understanding on what JK is saying. Every activity of human being comes into action because of thought and thought revolves around me (a superficial image built by default). This image/program takes space in mind. Once we able to make that space free by removing that image/program, the space is empty. Plz don't think about that image as being mean or thinking about themseleves only. If you think about others than also its coming from thoughts. So don't mistaken good or bad here. Its just thoughts and removing that creates space to allow something else to be there.
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I can see how thoughts are limited but i don't see any change in me
The problem is that we don't see that thought is limited. Thought has a far too great importance to us.
I do meditation OAM chanting evriday
If it is giving you awareness, then it is ok.
0:03 Isn't that feeling of importance itself a thought? Thus no 'no thought'
If one could make the distinction between the fact and the illusion/thought , then there would be much less confusion .
Facts are way clearer than the 'feelings' !
Thought is the first step when leaving the present reality. Meditation, is present mediation of senses and the thoughts that may arise. Sense brings about thought, thought of past images. Meditation enables one to prune unproductive thought.patterns, brought about by present senses recalling past images. When not in active pruning meditation, remain present. Then, When you encounter thought, step back into present consciousness, or you leave the present to a theoritical concept made of past images. The Helper referred to in John 14, is the helper left in us, by the son of the one consciousness present in all. Our internal mediator, we converse with silently in meditation. Ever present, never ending, eternally present, all knowing, limitless knowledge…
What brings about the unconditional intention 'to want to swim' in humans ? To inquire ?
Seeing intellectually that thought has produced a false idea of self with all its psychological becoming all the time seems not enough. What makes the penny drop ?
It seems near impossible to get it across as a certain preparedness, openness seems necessary in the other when conversing.
What brings it about ?
Its like you are statying in a house and when you cone out of it you have whole world. But inside uour house you are in a boundary of your house. But when you come out there is no boundary
Thought is the essence of being. So, I don’t understand what he means
I have tinnitus. When I meditate I hear this peeping sound. How can I not think about this?
Hear that sound also , silence is not exclusive of sound.
It’s not about not thinking about it it’s about not adding or taking away from it. Just be there with it and everything else that arises and dissipates
When the thought ends, the Self "I Am" ends because "I Am" resides in thought. Then there is immense limitless space which was being limited by the "I Am" the limited local Self in thought.
Is this the gist of this lecture?
these kind of people were/are responsible for india's present situation... your enemy are outside, world is outside, struggle is outside.. but all of this kind of guru ask you to go inside... 8 hrs sleep is enough to go inside man....
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@@kft thank you for posting his teachings 🙂❤️🧠
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