Krishnamurti's Last Year at Brockwood Park (1985)
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Originally entitled "The Role of a Flower", this video shown on British television in 1985 as part of "The Human Factor" TV program, features J. Krishnamurti, founder of Brockwood Park School, here interviewed and giving a talk just months before his death in Ojai California. This will also give you some biographical information as well as insights from people who knew him personally, such as Mary Lutyens, as well as people who used to attend the gatherings. Finally, for those of you who don't know what K's talks used to look like in those days, this is a good window into the atmosphere of the way it used to be at Brockwood.
"I have plenty of energy because I don't carry the burden of the past"
Grace22 - I said wow! when he said that at the end.
a truly genuine realised soul to grace us all with such mystic vision ,lost for words Bless you all
Reading him since my univercity dayd 1974 75 he has changed my life
Or did you change your life and he simply offered tools that you found useful at that time
I once had suspicions of him because of his involvement with the Theosophical society which had such scoundrels like Madame Blavatsky and Aleister Crowley associated with it, but when I started to understand his life and what he did I began to deeply respect him. A truly enlightened human being.
Great teacher 🙏
"God is not stationary because living things cannot be stationary", K indeed knows.
That mind was still chained to time. Once you observe life from fifth and sixth dimension (as per classical physics) you can see it as an immutable+eternal truth. One can only describe things which one has experienced. There is no end to experience as per infinity. Surely there are beings far ahead of the understanding Agni Das may hold in this grand play of life :D
@@agnidas5816 Once you realize that there is no time as such, you cannot unsee it. There is only a constant floating of energy, manifesting from one manifestation into another, in a timeless realm. Even 'space' is an illusion, but it's far more difficult to understand than the illusion of time.
love u k
just be careful VesselAnaw it may De-programm you, thought first it may piss you off. Lost of Illusions is a painful process as any lost. The only purpose of his teaching is to set you free. "My only concern is to set man absolutely, unconditionally free." -- J. Krishnamurti
he really is no body wow
and so my dear friend here, is of course not programmed at all. Gosh!
Was he vegan ?
"The moment you follow someone, you cease to follow truth." ~ Krishnamurti
Literally none of his students follow this teaching. :P
I found similar issues with one of my gurus. The first thing they asked me when I visited the ashram went against his teaching. Those closest to him were the biggest impediment to enlightenment or pure satsang.
good one
@@agnidas5816 Yes I know. But what about Dr. David Bohm? He was definitely his closest conversation partner.
At 90 years of age he's younger than most of us
He has a head full of hair at the age of 90!
@@ricardojameson673 Actually he combs the sides of his hair upward to cover the top. Bald as a bowling ball. But a great teacher no doubt.
He had been gone 30 plus years when u said that.
I had the immense privilege of seeing him and listening to him...I loved what he said and still do... One of the greatest 'Speaker'. Miss him a lot.
Some people leavs a indelibly impression ---
He has single-handedly empowered me to liberate my own mind. I am eternally grateful for his existence. "What is the role of a flower?". I have a deep reverence and love for this man.
Bijan OK wisdom of a simple man with the raw truth and facts of life... the beauty of a flower , tree , mountains and the wind whistling with birds singing.... I wish I could have met him... I am thankful for listening to his voice on RUclips ....love is priceless...
That must have been so wonderful Bijan.
Some people are alive but more like dead ... Where as .... some people are dead but more alive than ever. >_
The truth as it relates to conscious life has been revealed in 3 pages, Search *_Truth Contest_* and read the top entry called "The Present". The difference between knowing and not knowing is checking.
They are two sides of the same coin.
Lovely saying ..
Well Said
I owe my present clarity to THIS man. There is peace now for which there is gratitude.
Krishnamurti was altogether a new kind of philosopher. He was fresh and novel every where he talked and taught to his adherents. He covered almost all the things relevant to our understanding and evolution. He was absolutely a revolutionary thinker influencing Europe and America.
He doesn't claim any authority nor does he show any authority any where, in his talks, in his every moment. That's the beauty of it. The best that I came across.
This man is simply stating the facts of life. And they’re extremely simple facts
The moment you follow someone, you stop following the truth
yeah. that struck me as well. glad to see you too picked it up.
I feel deep gratitude to be living at a time where I can hear what this remarkable man had to share with us. His wisdom has changed me and set me on course.
Yes, the only problem we have is ourself. It is clear. We create all the havoc with trying to change the 'what is' into 'the what should be'.
I still have energy, I dont carry all the burdon of the past!!..
Yes, thank you for sharing part of what K says towards the end of this video!
thank you,..Love that line of Krishnamurti's,,..
To appreciate K, first see how many I, my, mine we put in our everyday language. Or feelings from a center of I, into comments, positive or negative. He's revealing incorruptible, absolute truth that humanity is indivisible, not fragmented, numerous divisions from egos. Pay him back: listen, investigate, doubt, implores our egos to the minutest wiggles, implode and explode into this pathless, timeless land. The tremendous potentiality that he mentioned time and again can then be realized and we can live attentively, simply and energetically, meditation in movement, exemplified from this sage's physical life. Thanks K and friends.
bless brother
If the house is in order then Society will be in order. We makeup Society so if our inner world is clear and peaceful the outer world/Society reflects & manifests truth, peace and contentment
"A living thing can't be stationary". Jiddu Krishnamurti.
What a genius... we all would like to find truth, and receive this truth from God through a miraculous experience. K tells us that to get to this truth, there is not other way than self discovery, there is no other way than letting go of all these erroneous beliefs : salvation thanks to a messiah, religion, ... and the belief in God itself. Only when you accept to drop everything you can meet truly the divine, which is no other than yourself. Because there is no separation between you and the rest of the universe. We all are one.
The amazing thing is - you always get something out of hearing him, whatever your level. And you will change for the better, however little.
The World teacher who dissolved all divisions, religions, rituals, cultures, Gods, countries, languages. Truth is within you. It is a pathless path. Explore it yourself.
Pretty basic isn't it...
(especially if the lame are not dancing...🙂)
A very good documentary and also a very good interviewer. She stays critical the whole time.Thank you.
While circulating in a bookstore I came across the myth of freedom! I was about twenty years old and this book allowed me to meet K. Gratifications.
What a special human being.
I was a Christian, a hindu a Buddhist and a witch.
If it wasn't for this man, I would never have had the deep understanding necessary in these days to see through the fog of a deeply disturbed world.
Now ive seen a man speak, heard a man open his heart, and I thank God for that opportunity. It puts a person in a strange position, but ive realised that we can totally change the relationship we have with life as a human being, and instead of standing on the side, commenting on the predicament of mankind, have found that its possible to actually participate in life. Thank you sir.
so simple morality is an internal thing isnt it be free, tell me why
I hope you still see the truths that Christ offered. Krishnamurti and Christ have been my two greatest inspirations to look within myself. When you read the gospels through the mind of Krishnamurti...it brings so much light onto it.
And I hope this is not being heard through a dogmatic voice! The gospels are not dogmatic--we have been given a dogmatic interpretation, but this is far removed from what Christ taught.
No satanist no gnostic no agnostic no muslim no christian no theist no atheist . Yes pro the unity in impartiality principle . Yes unselfishness . Yes non-violence . Copy that
God ? What is that ?
Excellent comment ! Indeed JK, speaks to the insanity when he said "It is no good measure of a man to be well adjusted to a sick society ". at the 17 min mark he starts to talk about the many illusions we all live under that are created for us by TPTB. And how we wallow in it all because we assume and believe they are smarter than us because they are supposedly educated and intelligent. That is the greatest illusion of all the illusions we are forced to live with ! The solution is to simply recognize the illusions and step outside of them. That requires letting go of the junk we are conditioned to accept and realize the absurdities like the sick society he mentions ! This takes a lot of personal honesty and courage most people never seem to find because they are still stuck in the many illusions created for them.
I also enjoy the differences between a man like JK and Sadhguru. Both have different perspectives but teach the same principles and have shown me there is no perfection in people, only our own "Inner Powers" we can all tap into if we simply go inside and listen ! We all live far too much in the outer world and should strive to touch the Inner World much more than we allow our selves. Both worlds are very real and the issue is finding the correct balance. Just as body, mind, spirit and soul are all interconnected and the balance of those powers are what is important. Balance in every aspect of our life is good health and understanding. That is the whole banana.
He is like our good parents and grand parents always wanting us to be in good paths in life
This man also helped me a lot to understand myself and others that we are one. I felt so lost but have found my own light, thank you so much. Much LOVE.
Any effort of a conditioned mind to free itself of it's conditioning, remains the action of a conditioned mind. Discover the sea which you live in, and start from there.
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91, and straight as a pole!
I love the music at the end haha
That's what happens when you live all the way to the 80s
'cutting hair, tailoring a suit'.. is it wrong to oneself clean ? this narrator interjects tiny hint of unnecessary negative comments here & there... why?
excellently interjects popular opinion so that it may be discussed and refuted
He’s trying to point out those that DON’T get it.
because she doesn't get it. If I would've seen this in 1985, I would suspect that in 2019 people would have gotten far more awakened.
he is dead. but alive more than most of us. indeed. I understood him.
Bs
@@jorgletchler1980 Bible Study? :D
I don't think Jesus wanted any followers either. He just wanted to teach people how to forgive and live joyfully happy.
What a cynical narration.
And unlike the utterly useless Queen who has achieved nothing and says nothing of interest and does nothing of interest - he gave it all away instead of greedily hoovering it all up.
dude wtfuck are they saying loool they make no sense the people that got interviewed in the begining ..." hes really repetitive but if you listen but not listen at the same time u will get it " hahahah that me me laugh they seem like they didn't get shit of what Krishnamurti sir ever said! they were just there for the hype
..its so not repetitive and so not difficult to understand i think
I got the chance to read Ramana and later got to listen and read to his speeches. If I had only read him it is quite likely I would have had a headache. He says 'No path' to 'Nothing'.. when we read the Q&A of Ramana that is where he edges out and Articulates every possible doubts well. Like we have a conditioning that sages have to drop the pleasures or otherwise we become cynical and judgemental. Awakening happens and everything just falls in place. But the thing is after becoming 'Nothing' one is not bound or influenced by Moralities which is essential to break the duality. One just drags along. J also gave the most simplified and highly processed form of knowledge to us which is perfectly right for this age of machines and coming times. He had a certain personality and his experience with Truth was filtering through it. When people would be tired of Religion, Cults and Groups his teaching will make sense then. Though we are not qualified to judge him but still I feel his knowledge is best understood only after elementary knowledge and basic and earnest self investigation on spirituality. He reflects earnestness and impracticality.
I can't tell you how to be you!
He's a flower. He exists. And, he KNOWS it.
Where is he now ?
Everywhere. Yet, nowhere.
Is it possible to see the whole interview of K? The questioner made some very good questions.
what a beautiful man he is
A bumper sticker reads: It is no measure of health to be well- adjusted to a thoroughly sick society. And I'm introduced to Krishnamurti. the one who doesn't seem smart? the one who isn't "adjusted" obviously.
hello my dear jossy are we one ?
theosophists every where are waiting
for the truth krishna murti knew he
was not the messiah in 1925
the lord speaks only to one and the one is you
ask not for truth unless you find it in yourself
krishana m says you are the one
no one is the one im the head of the order
and you will be reminded there is only
one place the truth is a pathless land
the moment you follow someone you
cease to follow the truth
the truth is a pathless land
no new theories now new thoughts
Andrew
RUclips Unity in impartiality . (By Alain Maitre) . Interesting video and comments . Be also a worldteacher .
Life is a laugh and a cry and soon or late we die , so seize the day in a healthy way .
What HE actually taught is nothing but VIPASANA in fact . Practical VIPASANA.
Mi hija está fascinada con la filosofia de Krishnamurti, educando con su profesión en física y doctorado en Fis. Med. cosas útiles y buenas para formar gente comprometida , en cuidar del mundo y del planeta.
Amazing human being who understands the amazingly cunning human mind and transcend it. There are always more than a few who tend to crucify what they don’t understand.
I had the good fortune to meet him at Adyar. My belief that one must be free of all kinds of beliefs to be totally tree or else you will be a slave to that belief and perceive reality thru that belief... I told him and he agreed with me. He defied description definition
without laughter, life would be a mistake ------ come on then, who have I plagiarised
What utter rubbish you write. Quite clearly you have no understanding of Krishnamurti. No one is forced to pay for a video and nobody was forced to pay a fee to listen to him. The Theosophical society left not the faintest mark on Krishnamurti. He renounced all organised religions and invented Gods as creations of the mind, creations created from fear of living and a fear of dying. "Deluded into the messiah Complex", what utter tosh you write.
merci pour ce cadeau!!!!!! merci!
Avec plaisir! Merci à vous aussi.
Identify and challenge all assumptions including meaning...
Don't stop
That is the mind/idea part
Complete openness and opening further...
That is the soul part
They work together - we are both
Humility
A wholly beautiful conscious human, so lovable & befriendable.
He was trained to be the World
Teacher and rejected that role as the New Messiah which shocked the Theosophists. In doing that He proved Himself to be just that; a World Teacher❤
Thanks for sharing, beautiful film!
he really is no body wow
Role of flower - nice!
It's a bit contradictory what you say, right? He dropped the role of messiah, and you say he "was deluded into a messiah complex". He clearly wasn't thus.
For the rest: the man had grown without since child with continuous education about God, he was very morally indoctrinated. He had to get rid of it, like all of us.
He needed the space to explore. That's all. He didn't ask for it to be made a religion and a fixed philosophy to be followed. That's the responsibility from his followers.
This video is nice. But hardly manages to touch what JK was all about. And the deep implications of what he says
you can tell the reporter was trying to get a hit piece on J.K, but the other woman never took the bait
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Truly a Great Messiah ! Lucky to have read him . Unlucky never to have met him in person .
Jiddu said : there can be no savior no messiah .
No Guru.
Peace to all
He was 91😮 and he was walking and talking, all afresh
He was trying to say that the human being is a lie without crossing over toes.
Reading a text and studying it together and taking the content with you Every year of your life has to be immensely rewarding and resourceful.
Truth needs great courage.. Strict moral.. Great energy.. And thy Grace
i just love him and i would like he was still here with us
💜💚💙💛💗
it was not for followers, don't be silly. A space for young people to learn & love with consciousness and be happy, in a very good school, without idiots sadistic brain washing them into competing laboratory experiment-making robots, or into presidents of selling weapons corporations. What are you complaining of ?
He was not part of society. He was living outside a protected elite life. Very stubborn. No humor. Sitting like a schoolboy on his wooden chair. He and his followers have not changed anything, maybe not even their house inside. It was only like a drug which put them high the time they were sitting in the conference.
I disagree. I think, based on the incredible truths he came out with which resonated within me, that he "got it". He just wasn't the greatest teacher (as he once admitted himself) and was still a human being.
Thank you for sharing
Know thyself.
Know thyself yes , but can we really know ourself for 100% ? I doubt it ...
@@alainmaitre2069 -I know you're a tit ....hahahaha!
jossy no organisation no temple we are because we are , its so simple , truth is a pathless land so fucking simple , dont carry burden from the past so simple
Failure to instil morality is nothing to do with any religion. But Krishnamurthy should have known that there is no case of a god thing in Buddha teaching. Buddha said it is up to them to do and Buddha only show the way. But Krishnamurthy seems unaware despite being born in India.
gratitude Merci !
He obviously wasn’t referring only to cheese makers but to all producers of dairy products.
Oh yes Yoga is monstrous ? And his British friend are so great ? English is so great and Hindi is dirty ? He looks like a bounty to me. I see Him as a great philosopher who hates India. He has words but no deeds
I got to give thee the regards thy deserve!
Every hand ,every side plays the other sides but you own them all !
Impressive!
any one who determines he is the messiah and then sets about to tell the world, is failing to take in to account that every living being is equal. Since all are of the equality, none can claim to be THE messiah lording over all. One may think they can do that, but it's impossible. I do not have to believe in a messiah who claims that he is the only path to heaven and that if you don't kneel and pray and worship them you will burn in eternal damnation. Anyone claiming they have that over you is insane. All so called holy bibles were written by faulty men. People can be conned into anything. I need no bibles to know what is right and what is wrong. The world is filled with bullshit.
Exactly. No one has found the truth. If someone claims he has found the truth, he shall be able to answer basic questions like " where we came from? Or where we're heading? And why we're here??". No one has answered these questions. Jesus, Buddha, etc are all myths; the existence of those mythical figures only show our desires for perfection.
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Epic Noodle Cake!!!!
thats funny, this man had a frugal life, more than the average american. learn more about his life before talking shit.
i do hate all kind of masters, and K. is no exception, but im not that stupid to say he wanted to be rich. he was a proper decent person.
Most people in the world live a more frugal life than the average American. Averages are misleading however, 80% of the wealth in America is owned by 1% of the population. And of course it may be more instructive to compare him to his fellows in his own nation, those in the lower castes from which he was not.
To all those folks on here who are commenting “I owe my ______ to K” you have not understood a single thing he has said. He’s just a man.
Thank-you
See the soul not the body.
man dont need religion ... man dont need a god.
man does not need a guru, not even JK
Brahmins and Kshatriyas share equally the highest caste status.
Please I am also a Brahmin myself.But please stop here discussion about caste.
And the rest of the world with them.
@@anonymous-fo8eb "you"aren't even "you" ...let alone Brahmin.....twat !
lol, you make me laugh.
Besides the 23 pound thing, isn't the guy or woman allowed to think for himself, or herself? He has to ask your permission, because you're a follower of K.,and thus, know that all Gods are invented creations of the mind, blabla ?
:)
My dear friend, I'm impressed
Las personas no acudían a la casa de Krishnamurti?
Thank you!
Podrían pasar esto en español, hablada en español
just listen so simple
Total freedom
What freedom??? No one can free himself from this life