How can I have a deep insight? | J. Krishnamurti
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
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Saanen, Switzerland 1983 - Question #1 from Question and Answer Meeting #1
'In order to have a deep insight, thinking must stop. For thinking to stop there must already be a deep insight. Where does one start?'
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His level of observation is unparalleled
This speech is more potent now with covid19 than ever.
Arigato….🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷
And how does it help anyone.. you saying this.
Yes me too
A real meditation take place as we listen to this treasure talk. "Love" is outside the ambit of limitation. Love, therefore, operates without the interferences of thought which lead to insight, for very thought being limited.
Even as I'm listening to him, I could feel my brain physically rewiring and forming new and different connections deep inside . Anyone else experience this too?
I've actually felt this but didn't think much of it tbh
That's what you "think" Happened in your brain.
Yess i am too experiencing it
Thank God
It happens, rather ought to happen 😊. Right path
I just love him, the most funniest person who challenges your mental laziness on thinking clearly about your existence and issues, I just love him!!😂❤
J.k speech total change my life.
How?
He might change the way You live your life as your observation of life Changes @@goodchild109
J.k like a deep sea.deep silent,deep calm.
Thankyou sir ❤
_Extraordinary_ !! The Best I can do on Xmas day; deeply listening to this Great _Master_ . Merry Christmas to all of You who will deeply _listen_ from the bottom of your _Heart_ as well. 💓✨✨✨✨✨
Who can listen to this today? Very few people......especially in America.
Here, people love position/money and fun, fun, fun and are caught up in pop culture or in the "hip culture"
with big ole' beards and fancy mustache's in a state of apathy to what a person like Krishnamurti brings up.
Not that a "big ole' beard or fancy mustache" is wrong! ;)
I think that that is what's going on.
Stefos it's not just in America it's everywhere.
This one was a challenge for him
His teachings are basic pillars of human freedom which all should BE and pass on to generations…pure truth
where do you go from here at this point the realization I have is so profound.
Thanks to heaven for people like Krishnamurti.
if you listen to him again and again you will something new
I think the Most important thing Krishnamurti said was lets go into it together.If your not looking into what he spoke about for yourself he wasted his time
My deep appreciation towards Sir Krisnamurti, and the admin for posting this video. Thank you so much.
sir j k has influence me long long ago, when i was at the age of 32 years. his approach to see the life is wonderfull.
Kisthe mirrorto see ourselves
@@vijaypandhare3905 why you are comparing or always need to identify yourself with your likes, ideals. He is oneself , you are oneself and buddha is oneself. All are one
All are one...at least psychological, because physically we can’t see now. But through mind we can say all are one
Don't be influenced by K. He himself told that. Instead look within while K speaks
There is no start just an everlastingness
Love this beautiful man...
Thanks for posting, we need more on RUclips. His 6 decades talks are voluminous, like Buddha's. I used to drive the poor NY librarians crazy by digging out all K's transcripts from basement and remember each one is as thick as an encyclopedia and there were at least 40 of them. But that was 2 decades ago and I was younger and practically just gobbled them down. I wonder if you're going to transcript his talks before audio/visual were common into audio media, because there were stages of K's teachings that are only in written words? I would love to get drunk again in this cosmic elixir! Please?
+Clara Chen Thank you for your comment. A great deal of the pre audio material is available on our website. Please use the following link: goo.gl/Fl1ADV to browse verbatim reports of talks from the 1930s to the 1960s. You can also search for specific words within this collection. You may also be interested in an audiobook read by Terence Stamp of Commentaries on Living, written in the 1950s: www.cdbaby.com/cd/jkrishnamurti
+J. Krishnamurti - Official Channel Thanks so much, already check them out. Sincere appreciation for org. like these that our world is not spiraling down to worse situation, this at the wake of Paris massacre. Keep up the good works and count on this future member!
I feel ecstatic to l learn of the incredible curiosity of the gentleman Difficult to anticipate the strides he would already have made towards which we all have to make our way His very presence must keep adding to the stream of consciousness which has since been blessed to become more and more shinINING with KRISHNAMURTIs having tremendously and progressively to continue to make it wider and deeper Mankind must feel triumphant at this epoch of history of man the most memorable hardly ever to be matched
❤️love this man ❤️He truly is the world teacher ❤️
The moment the rain stops, the sound subsides..... Ahhh!!! What a beautiful moment of pure being.
Awesome 👍 sir
This man was so in touch nature that he started speaking again just when the rain was ending . ❤
To love to Existance.
存在是因為愛。
To fight then you won't be mechanical.
戰鬥的人不會變得機械。
Fight with your Life!
以生命作戰。
No place is safe except in movements.
在運行中才有安全。
Freedom gives you Love.
Challenge means opportunity
I don't think, I feel.
Thinking means there is no self, totally meditation.
Knowledge comes from the denying of the past, the history.
Don't think about oneself, think about the world and universe.
limitation means you limited yourself, but not the others. Only the others see it.
The division ends when the self is end.
What is to do is doing nothing but yourself.
The fact comes only when the idea is not here.
The idea comes when we are accept what you said, then there is division. But when we actually fight with you, then we totally understand what you are talking about.
Insight means 循環。
The action comes from noplace brings creations.
What's the main streets of yourself? 你生活的重點是甚麼?
When thought comes to an end, there is creation. So what's the meaning of life? Doesn't it to end oneself and create Death?
Conflict means confusion. 而戰鬥，類似於直指中心。
Thought means 延伸， but not creation.
Complete action means no conflict. When there is no conflict, there is no fear at all.
Love is there when the self is not. When there is no Love, there is thought.
When the brain see the fact of the thought and self, there is no consequences at all. Then you will see the beauty of the brain. There has a fresh brain.
Brain is trapped by the evolution of language - the sounds we use as everyday conversation . That everyday conversation, verbalisation, is always the past. That brain activity is an attempt to complete incomplete brain activity. But brain cannot complete brain activity. It seems K. trying to ask how can this activity subside.
Our insight (enlightenment, intuition) is timeless, yet our realization of it occurs in time. To "stop the thought" is already a thought. Negation of "love is not" is still a thought, a negation is the reverse of affirmation, yet still expression of thoughts. Sometimes felt like drowning in this psychological depth of K's. Or climbing up a slippery snow-capped mountain top with numerous precipices. It's real hard for us 3-dimensional, time-space bounded beings to reach this pathless land NOW! Thanks for holding the flame nevertheless!
When you are identified with thought you have conflict and therefore hate,sorrow etc. When you are just observing and therefore not identified hate, sorrow etc. ceases to exist.
@@Andre-bd5fq yes, but when someone or something triggers us, the mechanical movement starts without us beeing aware of it and the cycle of action and reaction starts all over again...
@@nadadenadax4903 in that case that is what he is talking about perception . Be aware totally about you is not an Easy thing.
@@nadadenadax4903 for that u need to be tremendously aware of rising of throughts
becoz when ur aware of rise of thought
u can stop it effortlessly
Brother it seems like u've gone through with many experiments and frustration with his teachings and have gained or maybe reached to good depth..
Is there anyone who has got exhausted on this path, living on his teachings n all other desires vulnerably watching us from distance running striving madly after one desire only -of getting 'self-understanding'
( But now have seen the fact -'if control mind even to watch, then it revolts and make us pay more for forcing it) ?
K. must see this each and every time, what he is inquiring with us, or it would become a concept. Is this clear or not as it is said?
Daily basis culture helpful. Doing... Doing... Doing... Doing... & Finally comes an auto mode where you are doing but it is done effortlessly. Auto mode or default mode is again a memory but not voluntary in nature. It is a state where we auto access this memory when needed. Example typing without seeing keys. Can we say this as action without conscious memory.
Yes, it's wonderful, isn't it?
In this movie, or this viewing, for the first time I see K be impatient with his audience. Why?
He’s speaking to the rain..
Something that boggles me is where Krishnamurti draws the line concerning the proper place for memories...i understand that he acknowledges that memory related to functioning in the physical world is necessary but I wonder he would explain concerning personal memories that get into what he would describe as psychological
Thank You for posting this -^-
I’m addicted to JK’s talks ...
me too, everyday I listen.
Me toooooo
Then u r not going to get the real u .. u depend on jk sir.. try to to u .. with urself don't depend on jk sir
Sir, never say and use the word "Addicted" its a prediction and love it from bottom of your heart. Good Luck! No one like you on this planet Earth!
Mechanical
Honestly, I can't separate any action from memory/time. And even if there is, why does he call it insight ? I would call it instinct
Do not make it so complicated Sir. When one realizes that all actions in the psychological realm are based on past and there can never be anything new psychologically, one starts hesitating to deal with such issues through past memories, prejudices, experiences, and so on. This hesitation in itself is a great transformation. Isn't this an insight ?
Instinct is born out of memory.
The brain has recorded so many times in the past that it becomes an instinct.
Insight is something independent of memory. A completely different form of energy which is devoid of memory.
Simple! Meditate in silence.
You don't need to be told how to do what is natural.
Another thing is it nuances , if irreality has become real , why dont try nuances for go in one place to another? But try to understand this
NUANCE
Affirming that one is already on the path. The knife of wisdom should affirm that which one already knows, understands and lives.
There is no path, as K said, truth is a pathless land.On the path to what?
Read his book ' the beginnings of learning ' in this K replied one American that this is the fastest and shortest path.
Path- surrendering to 'what is' and looking it
I wish i could meet him in person 😥
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LISTENING TO K, MAKES EVERTHING ELSE SEEM TRIVIAL.
I understand perfectly. For example, there's this Facebook chat group. One member came on and started to read a posting about belief and then posted a quote by Nikos Kazantzakis because he thought it was attractive. Then he got interested in another member's photographs about how her baby is doing. I was interested in chatting about belief. If l had interfered and said he should talk about belief it instead of the baby it would have caused conflict. I can feel the memory of this and it makes me angry. Despite that we have the right to chat about or be interested in anything we choose and my own limited reaction or attitude, are most of us really interested in getting to grips with JK's message even though this member does have an interest?
36:34 about exactly the moment rains stop..
The voice clarity is to be improved by repositioning the mike appropriately
why should insight be deep or shallow? --- who is doing the measuring? ---
it is extremely profound but I need a notepad to piece it together.
Why was that laugh at 36:xx ? Because rain stopped ?
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Can i get all his interviews in the form of a book in english?
They have a website. From there u can order them.
Ay Caramba! 56:20
I haven't thanked you
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What happened at 36:40? 😂
Rain
Rain stopped suddenly
Thank you for posting this
Wow
Shhh
Yes!
I still don't quite get it. The moment he put love on the table of reasoning, he named it as non-thought, non-this and non-that. This is the moment I didn't get at all, which has ruined the whole hour of discussion about the divisiveness of our nature. Why love is not a thought or something else which is also limited? Why do we always strive to give a sharp answer that there IS something out of that limitation/division/dualism? I don't get how anything being comprehended by our brain can be out of its limitations. For me, this is the point where K's rationalism breaks. Change my mind, show me the truth if I am wrong. Explain the love to me after all.
It's a given that love is beyond all of the duality and offers us transcendance. It's the ideal which is whole and beyond though.
@@geabyrne How do we know that? Is it not another thought?
Thank you.
Do we realy have 2 know or are we just getting cought up in more thought which may lead to repetition of more thought and deterioration of the brain 🤔🙄😁 just a thought 😒😀😁
Don't admire J, but his teaching.
Rajasekhar Rayudu Don't admire J, nor his teaching, but hear, listen and transform.
I admire both!
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What a wonderful talk
Where does one start?
But why is experience limited
Because when you are experiencing something it has a start and end.
Once the experience is gone, you are again caught in thinking.
You cannot have an experience which is time infinite. It ends one way or the other.
So to have an experience which is not limited thoughts should stop.
Experience means measurements in human terms....but you can't measure anything without changing the original state of thing you are measuring
Theres a limit to how much knowledge which is experience one can gather even if you had 10 lifetimes
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thanks
K.......❤️
K
How come love is not a thought?
If it's not a thought, then what is it? A feeling? An Imagination?
What is love then?
i am that i am and i am . j Krishnamurti ,jesus ,gandhi ,Gangaji Adyashanti ,buddha, 3 wise monkys Carlos Castaneda and i am. j Krishnamurti gave me thinking must stop , deep insight, ,jesus gave me pure love ,gandhi non violence, i am against nothing ,but for equal human rights.Gangaji who am i ?Adyashanti understaning .buddha, for that i am .3 wise monkys hear,see, and talk no evil. tree of knowledge of good and evil it's fruit sweet but poisonous. it fools all, no oone sould ever eat
Idiot
Lots of love to dear Krisha sir ❤❤❤