All-New Porsche Macan EV first look // Is the EV a better Macan?
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- This is a Motormouth couple car review of the all-new Porsche Macan EV compact luxury SUV. There are two models of the Macan EV available, the Macan 4 and Macan Turbo. Porsche believes these models will fulfill their customer’s needs through its timeless design, performance and practicality. Porsche’s goal is to offer the sportiest performance EV model in this segment.
The Macan EV uses the latest generation of PSM electric motors on the front and rear axles. In combination with launch control, the Macan 4 produces up to 402 horsepower and 479 lb-ft of torque. The Macan Turbo 630 horsepower and 833 lb-ft of torque. The Macan 4 goes from 0-100 km/h in 5.2 seconds and the Macan Turbo 3.3 seconds. That’s 0-60 in 4.9 seconds for the Macan 4 and 3.1 for the Turbo. The two models reach a top speed of 220 and 260 km/h. That’s 136 and 161 mph. The range has not been announced yet, it should be available closer to the delivery date which is the second half of this year.
The Macan EV has a 95 kWh useable battery and is compatible with 800 volt charging architecture with charging speeds up to 270 kW. The battery can be charged from 10% to 80% in 21 minutes. This EV uses an 800-volt architecture for faster charging. Many current DC fast chargers can’t put out energy as fast as the Macan EV can accept. But Porsche has a workaround for that problem. At a 400-volt charging station, a high voltage switch in the battery enables bank charging by splitting the 800-volt battery into two batteries each with 400 volts.
The Regen braking allows up to 240 kW of power to be recuperated via the electric motors while driving.
Both Macan EV models come standard with air suspension and Porsche Active Suspension Management electronic damping control which features dampers with two-valve technology.
For the first time, the Macan is available with optional rear-axle steering with a maximum steering angle of five degrees. The Macan EV can tow just over 4400 pounds.
The Macan EV is available to order now with delivery in the second half of the year. In Canada, the Macan 4 starts at $99,300 CAD and the Macan Turbo $125,300 CAD. In the US, the Macan 4 is $80,450 USD and the Turbo $106,950 USD.
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What a joke. You can add 50-70,000 in options 😂. No gas savings here. It’s just a way overpriced Q6. Turbo is 150,000 Canadian. And it’s worth 80k in 2 years.
Agree. A joke. Porsche is now off the list for me.
Nah the audi q6 starts at a higher pricing than the macan. The q6 etron starts at 110k cad while the macan e starts at 90k. The macan e has a lower pricing than the q8 etron too (q8 etron starts at 150k). I currently drive a bmw m5 comp matte black 2022 and a cayenne s hybrid cumulus blue 2024. (I considered a q8 but they were so much more expensive). I’m currently looking to switch my m5 comp for something similar (probably a panamera gts or smth). I’m also looking to add an electric luxury vehicle, a phev isn’t enough to save the gas cost. My only options currently is the eqe suv (87k) and a bmw ix (79k) and the macan e turbo (125k)
People who buy Porsches aren’t looking for savings
@@Andyt11 in order to make that statement, you would have to know all Porsche buyers. Majority of Porsche sales are macan and cayenne’s and out of those 7/10 are base model engines. So, Porsche buyers want a deal and want value….and the brand name.
@@Andyt11 same for audi buyers. Everyone who owns an audi is rich af
Doesn't look as good as the gas Macan, and don't want an electric. Do not like the Taycan type instruments and goofy screens. Why not a hybrid? At starting price of $80K, hard pass.
Sharp looking Macan, but not for me even if I could afford it 😂
hopefully theyll still offer a gas powered macan. i still dont trust evs in our ice cold climates.
They will, it will be sold side by side with this EV.
The smart manufacturers learn from Tesla and implement battery preconditioning in colder temps. It will warm up the battery to get the most out of charging. Will that extend your range? Nope but it should allow for shorter charge waits provided 800 V stations are on your route. Besides, what idiots are doing road trips in winter? Not me. Edit: You buy the vehicle that suits your purpose. EVs are definitely not for everyone contrary to what you're told by your government.
They won't be able to sell the gas powered in Europe due to the cybersecurity regulations, and Porsche has just stopped production of the Boxster and Cayman in EU for that reason.
They tested it for 4 years in the mountains of Austria and Northern Norway. Non-issue. Don't be scared. Let go.
EV's may be the end of these types of auto manufactures. What's the point, the power train isn't Porsche, it's some elec motor company making pcm motors. Only thing left Porsche is the suspension & braking. Same for other pricy high end auto manufactures. Times are changing quick.
Magna is a large player in supplying the electric motors for quite a few manufacturers and know what they are doing.
It’s going to see which German manufacturers survive this shift. I don’t think they all can.
@@Darkpill-2 Certainly not at these prices. Smallish SUV for this $$$ is asking a lot. There's a market for sure, just not a large one.
What are you talking about? It still has the awesome Porsche driving dynamics, the build quality, it has great looks and obviously great engineering (the range is great). Plus it has the very appealing Porsche badge
@@florianhaffner3910 No one has driven it yet so we don’t know if it has the great dynamics but given that it weighs 1000 lbs more than the old model I’m guessing no.
@motormouth thank you for the awesome review..as a Porsche enthusiast I had to watch this one right away.
I really like the look and wish the newer Gas Macans would replicate this look, however 2 things
1. The Porsche brand to me is about performance, racing, craftsmanship. I want to hear that exhaust note especially in Sport plus in my GTS Macan. I would never pay this for an electric vehicle.
2. After the many videos and reviews I see that Taycan have taken a huge depreciation hit.. some losing up to $70k ( US). I suspect that this will be a huge loss for people that buy this new. In addition the Taycan had a lot of problems the first few years. As a first year model I would definitely pass.
It’s a shame to also hear that the Cayman is headed electric also. I love Porsche but this is the wrong direction for the consumers that love what the brand is about.
For the Price of the new Macan I can put gas in my car for 50 years and have change left to spare 😂
In the moment we are forced to buy an EV, I would only consider a Toyota or Lexus preferably plug in. They know their stuff and depreciation is not as bad. I would have to skip on luxury brands like Porsche, Mercedes, BMW, and Audi. Not worth the hit.
What bothers me is we are not ready on the grid for electric.. people want to save the environment with low emissions, but not realizing the way they make EVs is not any better.
Anyway I know your thoughts from coffee and cars 🤗. I Enjoy watching you guys every week❤
I agree with all your points. I own a Macan S and love the performance and sound. The Porsche brand is all about performance, something (audibly) missing from all EVs. We are still in the early-adopter phase of EV ownership; wait 5 years to benefit from technology and grid improvements. The insane, silent speed is off-putting to me. In 3 seconds you are illegal. At least with an ICE vehicle, you have fun getting there.
Plug in rationale: the considerable negative consequences of an EV (mining, rare elements processing, power grid, and potential global turmoil) are ~85% less with a plug in hybrid. And PHEVs don’t need a $28B+ charging station boondoggle.
You are completely wrong about the Grid
On the point about "the way they make EVs is not any better", it is true that the production of the batteries that go into EVs is actually WORSE in terms of CO2 produced than making combustion cars. HOWEVER, over the lifespan of the vehicle, the EV will become more enviromentally friendly than that same combustion car as it is no longer responsible for nearly as many emissions as that fossil fuel powered vehicle. This becomes even more true as the grid starts using more and more renewable sources to provide energy, in the future there may be ZERO CO2 produced by charging an EV. In addition, there is a lot of room to improve the sustainability of manufacturing EVs as battery technology improves, this is in contrast to combustion vehicles, which are likely about as good as they will ever be in terms of emissions; I believe it is a dead-end technology which has had it's potential fully explored.
I can't really argue with you that EVs lose something in excitement in terms of engine noise, transmission etc over combustion sports cars but I do think there are things that manufacturers can and will do to make exciting EV models, we have already seen a few examples of that. And honestly, helping to slow climate change which is already wreaking havok on peoples lives and will continue to get worse is infinitely more important than those trivial things.
You can pay $500 and opt for the fake engine noise...just enough to scare the squirrels and the girls...lol
I will stick with gas and I will revisit in 10 years
Look into hybrids.
@@ScubaSteveCanada Exactly!
Yep
Ok, boomer
@@valeriyo boom boom boom
They need to stop calling it a turbo.
Flux Capacitor Version!
I think turbo means high end version in Porsche
@@saranrathakrish8468 I understand that, but it makes no sense when it's an EV.
It's more of a branding thing than a function.
That ship has sailed. Even the non-turbos are turbos, so we'll have to deal with it.
That design, frunk, build quality but the German battery technology is behind. They still use NMC batteries that should only charge to 80% for daily driving and degradation of up to 10% in 10 years/ 1.million km. Wait until they sign contracts with CATL or BYD to install next gen LFP batteries which can charge up to 100% each time, charging speed up to 4× the battery size and virtually no degradation for 1-1.5 million km.
I have LFP batteries in my RV and it truly makes a difference with the ability to stay at 100% state of charge, all the time, and the faster charging rates.
In Toronto, you will be carjacked in a day
I really was excited for this model, but now I’m really not sure about it. The coupe style is too much imo and the front is such a block. I want to like it… maybe it will grow on me eventually
I agree, it may be subtle, but I like the current shape better.
They locked it. I got to sit in the Lucid, Polestars, Lexus, Genesis and other fine cars but Porsches were locked. I would say the EV Macan looked like the non-EV Mecan right next to it. Wish Porsche didn't lock it.
Hmmm released on April 1st - at first I was wondering is this an April Fool's video of a Macan Turbo disguised as an EV
LOL good one. Hope they don't sell, and the resale will tank like the Taycan. No one wants a used EV. Build gas cars dummies!
Only thing i like is front dash very nice... but Not interested waiting next video
Seems like a long, unsafe reach to the right hand touch screen.
100K for that? The depreciation is not worth it on an EV.
A high end sports car doesn't heavily depreciate?
Sports cars actually hold their value pretty well. Better than most. Sedans get absolutely hammered. @@vancity2349
@@vancity2349 Much higher with an EV sports car.
The Taycan’s handling and design (from angles) is breathtaking. But this just looks like any other Porsche SUV. It certainly isn’t different enough for me to forgo their brilliant gasoline options. And as far as ‘sub 4’ acceleration numbers… my 3.2L Carrera is barely over 230 hp., but with a kerb weight of barely 2,500 lbs. it is more than enough for me. I have driven 996/7 Turbos. They are insanely erotic to experience. But I cannot fathom owning one to drive daily or they are worth the extra (financial) premium. I think these new Porsches (and many other brands) are getting just perhaps a little too fast, and far too ‘fat’ … heavy. Thanks for the video.
Split 800V battery in two? Just ask any auto mechanic or electrician - what would happens when you charge 2 batteries simultaneously in parallel. They die much faster and live shorter life. Because they will never have the same degradation (voltage). Here battery problem is already baked in.
Look what happened with Taycan battery and how reliable this technology is.
The warrantee is 3 years for a reason
@@BCNeil 3 years warranty on the battery? That's terrible. My old Ioniq 5 was using an 800V battery but they did not split it. At a 400V station, they were able to transform the 400Vs up to 800Vs but I could still get 180 KWs out of a 150KW station which uses 400Vs.
The powertrain warranty is actually 8 years /100k miles
@@BCNeilTry to search “Taycan prices falling”. There is always a reason for such secondhand behaviour. 😉
@@hulz99 After that you will pay me to own it. It's written off in 8 years. My Cayenne is 6 years and going strong.
I am a Porsche fan but this thing is way overpriced
I own a few different Porsche models and can fix them myself all gas . I will never buy an EV even though Porsche is going electric only in the years to come.
Awesome but who cares ?
@@claudep.255 obviously you did ,since you took the time to comment.
Serious question for EV fans - since EVs will increase power demand by 2x for a typical 2 car home, where's the extra power generation coming from? How many new nuclear/coal/clean energy/wind farms/solar are needed to meet this demand? Anyone?
What makes you think charging two EVs at home doubles your power demand?? Sure it will increase but not double. Can you imagine how much it would cost to have your own personal gasoline station at your home? I doubt there will be a need to increase power generation beyond normal requirements; North America is speaking loudly and rejecting EVs.
I've owned a Kona EV and an Ioniq 5 EV since 2020 and never noticed an increase in my electricity bill. But I saw the fact that Hyundai can't repair their own batteries, there were unexpected typical maintenance costs so now I have a 2024 Tucson hybrid after trading in my Ioniq 5. Serious question, you obviously don't own an EV, never will, so why do you even care?
@@ScubaSteveCanada Steve, I own a PHEV with a 41 mile battery. I can tell you it cost $35 per month to charge it. You better take another look at your electric bill.
@@billurban1581 Maybe he has solar and a storage battery... Or only drives 20 miles/week.
@@jsfbay1Bur he talked about his electric bill. So you’re saying it’s sleight-of-hand? I see now, thanks.
@@billurban1581 Just a guess, I can't explain his bill not being noticeably higher any other way (well, another explanation is he charges at work.)
Love it!
What a beautiful cool car! Zack is right about the subway sandwich but I don’t know bikini. 😂 That’s makes me want this! Great show Andrea! ☕️☕️
EV .... yuk. Porsche or not.
True that!
Ice engine Yuk...makes as much sense as your comment
Six digits price. Does that base price come with seats and wheels? Looks great but I'll never be able to afford this SUV.
An electric Turbo???? Am I the only one who finds that ridiculous?
Even more confusing, because some new turbochargers having electric assist, which virtually eliminates turbo lag.
I don't really understand doing an EV review before the range is available. It's the most important update
missing swappable batteries
I see the back seat space is still cramped really, I think Porsche do not want to take sales away from their more spacious Cayenne.
Piano black - what were they thinking. To me, I would prefer a bigger screen for map guidance as well.
Very expensive no no no
This was great and y’all didn’t disappoint!
I’m eager for the actual drive review!!
Even with the MSRP difference aren't they afraid Macan EV sales will just cannibalize Taycan? Another great report.
Does it have heads-up display?
Option yea
The local Porsche garage already has 50+ orders - if that’s repeated worldwide they certainly will have initial success at least. It could be the model that encourages many to switch to EV especially if the range is over 300 miles which early tests runs have flagged. Real world reviews when they hit the showrooms in August will be interesting…
If they switch to EV, it will take some time, but they will learn the charging stations are too few and unreliable and the amenities at such station are terrible too. People that buy a Porcshe don' want to be treated like a 2nd class citizen. Hybrids are better. I know, I owned a 2020 Kona EV and a 2022 Ioniq 5 EV. Now I have the Tucson Hybrid.
Bye bye Porsche. Not Porsche anymore. I drive Porsche for over 30 years... bit this. Mainstream interior. Exterior... 😢😢
If I have to choose EV, i will choose Xiaomi SU 7
but I am enjoying my petrol Macan Turbo for many many years to come.
Those headlights are hideous. Why didn't they incorporate them into the DRL assembly?
Thursday april eighteenth twenty twenty four I would love to see the review on the handling Much heavier than the gas version.Therefore Porsche is all about performance performance.Yes It is quick off the line, but how consistent?
handling
How does this Vehicle perform? On the track.
Cargo area is Smaller behind the rear seat and even with rear seats down then the Crosstrek. To expensive and Who wants an EV?
Ahh man. As a proud 997.2 911 owner, it’s a shame to see Porsche making computerized crap like this. Take me back to the 90’s please!
different people , different needs.
I don’t know of anybody who likes piano black surfaces inside cars (4:15)…. Why doesn’t Porsche revert to matte black???
We continue to curse automakers for making compliance cars. But they only made them for compliance.
I don’t like it. It looks like an emotionless mini bulldozer. My 2014 Macan Turbo needs to be replaced but not by this ugly one. Maybe a Velar or Grecale.
They need to do away with the analog clock since it's useless and outdated. Also, it'll shave off about $400 or more on the sticker price.
Would prefer to see two wireless phone chargers up front and replace those climate buttons with two multi-function climate dials that can switch to different modes and functions with a push of either one. Dialling is a more satisfying moment than up an and down switch motion for climate.
sadly he was fired soon after this for saying the word Bikini at work to a female co worker due to woke corporate HR policies.
More great footage from the New York motor show. Looks fab on my 4k giant TV both 🎉
Another homerun for Porsche, the Taycan continues to sell well, so we know the Macan EV will too.
Looks good. That's a very good price for Porsche SUV.
Feel like EV is becoming from cool to money losing sensation.
Holy smokes the price! There’s no reason an EV should be more expensive than an ICE car. They are way simpler machines with on the order of 10,000 fewer parts. This is simply not worth it until they get the volume up enough to get the price lower than ICE cars (as they should be based on technical matters). Seriously, you can buy a lot of fuel for $30k to $40k you save buying the ICE or competitors ICE vehicles.
now is the Macan EV really 2x better than the Model Y to justify that price?
is any more expensive care 2-10 times better? Buy what you can afford.
I get it’s a Porsche and it’s electric, but that base price in Canada seems a bit steep… The Audi Q8 E Tron, which is Audis flagship electric SUV, has a lower MSRP. That makes zero sense as the Macan is supposed to be an entry level Porsche, whether or not that’s the gas or the electric. However, the base price in the US is very reasonable. Wonder why Porsche have priced the Macan the way they did in Canada…
Cool. Mileage is a key factor, though. Interesting that they're withholding those numbers. Hope those numbers are comparable to the competition.
*I know you guys love Porsche, but this isn't gonna stop me from dreaming about my BMW X5 plugin hybrid. That's my baby.
Love that they made this car. I have wanted an alternative to my MY for some time. Inside moves away for Tesla one screen for everything with a nice simple haptic climate control cluster and vol control set up. However I don't really see the value of the extra passenger screen (everything you want is right next to it and watching videos while driving is distracted even if the driver cannot see it so I would not opt for that). Rear axle steering looks interesting and I am glad they included air suspension and pano roof standard. Extra rear passenger room is a good improvement over the ICE Macan. Price is too high though and i hope they will pass savings on to buyers when the update to LFP or other improved battery tech and updating the NACS port sooner than later would be good (or at least give buyers an adapter so they can charge at a Tesla Supercharger if they need). This car needs to achieve price parity with the ICE Macan to be a high volume hit as they hope. Finally, range looks to be about 300 miles (485 km) at 90% (see Kyles review of the prototype. He got 320 miles out of 100% test). If true this will be as good or better than the Model Y which is fine for me (but I do charge at home most of the time).
A & Z, How Do You Touch the Menu Buttons on the Passenger side & Are the Wheels 22 inches?🤣? No Sidewall to soak up any Potholes, in the streets 😞.
Air suspension does that job well.
@@harmony3138 You Do Realize that having an Air Suspension doesn't mean you are Riding upon a Cloud in the Sky?! Hahaha, Are You that Gullible???!! 😎
@@harmony3138 30 years, Car & Truck Mechanic 🇺🇲😎
@@stephenwierzbicki4463
Still, air suspension is bound to make some difference, compared to steel dampers.
Do 20 inch wheels have better sidewall in your experience.
I opted for 20 inch in my Macan 4 config.
@@harmony3138 Air Suspension Makes An Amazing Improvement upon the Ride & Handling 😀. But increases in Wheels (Rims) Defeats the purpose. They Look Nice 😍 But it's Best Not to Go past 19in. Rims. 😍😎 Stay Safe Drive Safe 😎
That curved part of the dashboard looks goofy. What is VW Group thinking????
This is HUGE mistake on Porsches' part, it's their best selling vehicle by far and EV's have reached a saturation point. They will NEVER reach the same 37% sales figures, they should have kept the ICE and EV's side by side production. They're about to cut their throats even more with the Boxster/Cayman EV's insane, maybe Hybrid's, but complete EV's NO EV's are only 7.6% of all car sales. You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig!!!
Yes, yes and yes.
ICE version will remain available in North America as long as demand is there, but not in Europe.
I still struggle with the idea of an an electric Porsche….though old Ferdinand invented it back near the turn of the century….
Just wait till you wash this car in the winter to remove some of the salt and the charging door freezes ….
I never see Range rover review in your videos. Any specific reason- From Srilanka
not sure y u guys r down on piano black electronic screens create static so u r goin to get dust no matter the color
front headlight design is suck......should keep the old design
Where is the rear wiper?
It is now an option.
Releasing in colors best described as: wet putty
Zack, Andrea, Are you sure you are not in 2025? With what you show us today, you can easily tell that the Vancouver Auto Show 2024 sucks.
The Vancouver Auto Show was very small, a lot of manufacturers didn't participate. But, I am glad there was one even if it was small.
Once you go EV.....you will always go back to gasoline///
Lol. Canada is definitely not there yet as far as EV infrastructure goes 😅
My neighbour did…..traded the Taycan in for a Panamera hybrid
I just did. Started with a 2020 Kona EV, upgraded to the top-of-the-line 2022 Ioniq5 EV and just traded that in for a top-of-the-line 2024 Tucson hybrid. No more EVs until there are noticeable improvements in both the battery technology and charging infrastructure in Canada. My city has one public charger which is at a VW dealer and only capable of a 50 KW rate (which was good back in 2017 but not now).
@@davidjymFor Tesla owners in Canada the infrastructure is fantastic
@@vancity2349 fantastic 😍
Pretty pricy metal…
Finally, a Macan with Android Auto.
i always like the audi versions better, but that rear steering is enticing
Doesnt Audi offer that as a extra option?
Outside is great inside is crap. Hard pass.
I would like to see full driving review.
When are the motor journalists getting these for such review?
Maybe sometime in June.
The release in Europe last month had driving impressions and range. Check out other reviewers channels.
Thanks, guys!
Do the new panamara
Price ?
Glad I bought a 2023 gas powered Macan GTS. I believe Porsche is investing/gambling too much on the EV platform.
3:53 why does anyone need two screen which displays the same thing placed side by side
Oh, nice I wonder if it will be a record breaker in 1 year depreciation...
The perfect car for soccer moms with too much money
How does this compare to a model y
It doesn't.
Compared to a Porsche, Tesla is like something made by Fisher-Price :)
It costs a lot more.
Similar range, nicer interior but less spacious, many more options at 2x+ the cost.
Love Porsche but EVs suck!
To each his own I guess, but I find my EV to be a fabulous driving experience. I do recognize they don't fit everyone's needs for all situations.
Macan EV Turbo…. How does Turbo work on EVs?
With that price, I'll just go and get a civic
Don’t give a bleep about EV’s!
Why?
EV‘s are toys for people who have too much money and time. Frugal people drive CE‘s vehicles because they need to safe time and money.
Nice but fails. Cons: EV, piano black, minimal buttons & no ICE.
Total failure for Porsche
Looks like a xaomi car😂
EV makes everything worse. Sound, Excitement, Fun, Drama, Shifting, Range, Weight, Cost. Everything is worse on an EV. This is going to start off slow (like the Taycan) but sales will taper off (like the Taycan). If you have to have a goofy EV, just wait a year and get one half priced.
It's a mess those front lower headlights are hideous. End this EV nightmare
Ugh, that is one unsightly front end. What were they thinking? I'll stick with the pre-2022 Macan, before they ruined the interior by removing all the tactile buttons, knobs and switches with those idiotic touch panels.