Never had stick drift with the earlier consoles. Problems started with PS5 for me. I opted for Hall effect sticks when I repaired mine and it has been working well. There was some talk about certain versions of Hall stick not being compatible and needing some fancy intermediate PCB & programming to make them work, but IIRC I paid about £7 each for the ones I bought and as I say, no issues, just solder & play. I will say I wish I'd had some low-melt solder though.... And, yes, always change them both while you are in there. That website is a great tool isn't it.
I've since bought some of those hall effect sticks. They weren't around when I was doing this one. Fitted them in my son's controller and they seem to work great 👍
It's gotta be a case of built to last for the 1 year warranty. They've got it down to an art by now! £££££££ I recently platinum'd Resident Evil 4 remake on the PS4 and original Dualshock 4 controller I purchased about 8 years ago when bloodbourne came out! Only repair I've carried out on the controller was changing the plastic triggers with aluminium ones. The plastic posts had snapped on L2 and R2 triggers. Also, if I remember correctly the PS3's Dualshock 3 had a metal bar in the L2/R2 trigger posts.
That right stick issue on the first controller did show up when you first tested. I saw it and knew you’d be taking it apart twice. The sticks do auto-centre when you move them around in a circle a few times. That’s why the left stick appeared to go to -1 and 1 while you were explaining the issue. Not sure if there’s a permanent calibration as well.
Thanks Stuart, yes I noticed it too when watching the video back. Guess I missed it at the time. Yes I noticed it did seem to auto centre not sure if that's a permanent thing or not...
@@BuyitFixit I read online that on the Xbox itself there is an option to calibrate the controller under Settings -> Devices -> Controllers or some similar menu. Not sure if that’s a calibration that the controller remembers or if the Xbox remembers the calibration, or if the option exists at all!
@@sdjmchattie I looked in the Accessories menu which let's you perform basic tests on the xbox when doing a video on another xbox controller but alas there seems to be no calibration option. Even the test option is very basic and just displays UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT when pressing the thumbsticks and shows no indication of how much they are being moved 🙁
That module you put in place is for the PS4 controller. They have those small posts underneath for clearance. Best to use units designed for the Xbox controllers.
Thanks rory. I had a search on a few electronic suppliers like RS Components, Digikey and the only supplier seemed to be Mouser. I had bought some previously from Ebay that were for xbox but they didn't work properly and I suspect that they may have been copies. I checked the resistance and footprint dimensions before ordering and they seemed to be identical to the xbox ones which is why I ended up ordering them.
They both use alps analogs , identical . The model you have purchased is correct. They are centred using software not available to the public . Apart from chopping and changing the potentiometers or buying a bag of potentiometers and using a multimeter to test them , so you get two very similar reading , they will always be off centre . Anything under 10% won’t drift , but you want as close to 0 as possible so they last longer
No doubt about the fact that the don't make them as durable as the old ones, I still have my original xbox and the controllers work flawless even the third party controller still works, there must be a way to change how the controller interprets the imputs in order to center it. But once again thanks for all the time and effort you put into making the videos
Thanks Morten 👍I did see some hall effect joystick replacements for the steam deck and Nintendo switch. I had been wondering if I could buy one of those and adapt is somehow...
I can confirm opening a sealed xbox one controller vs series controller it’s so much harder to open a xbox one original controller it genially hurts my fingers but series controller is super easy to open I can open it with my bear hands.
The easiest fix is the “sticky” bumper fix it’s where you take it apart and just open the bumper and put back together then it should work if not replace them with new ones but clean around the area with a toothbrush and isopropyl alcohol first and it should work just fine.. I’m thinking about buying cheap “broken” controllers that have bumper issues and just replacing them as I have lots of spare parts from my brothers controllers.
Another thing that you can do is buy broken controllers with stick drift and replace the sticks with Hall Effect sticks that are now available quite cheap on eBay. You could then sell those at quite a profit as now they shouldn't ever get stick drift!
@@BuyitFixit I don’t have a soldering machine or anything to do this so bumpers are easier for me as I have controllers that stack up for me I have about 4 spare bumpers and parts and stuff
Like you did say, the middle part of the joystick restrict it from moving too far, so maybe you can take a bit of plastic away in the hole of the cover. That will only work if it can't travel enough.
Interesting as ever. Does the very slightly off centre return of a couple of the sticks cause drift in the games or it it small enough not to affect game play?
Hi, Thanks for the video, I learn a lot from them and I have seen most of yours now, also following my mate vince, because of you. I am searching for this blue tec, but I cant seem to find it, can you tell me what it is really called and how I can get it. Keep up the gooed work!
Thanks, oh you mean blu-tack it's often used for putting up posters and Christmas cards etc. It's not really an electrical product but it does come in handy for keeping things in place 🙂👍
Yes, but only when you are using the controller on a PC. It doesn't actually calibrate the controller but just adds an offset value in software, and has no effect when it's being used on an Xbox.
@@BuyitFixit there's an option to recalibrate them on the Xbox as well. I'm not sure how it works, but it's in the "Xbox Accessories" app. Click the 3 dots and then scroll down to "Recalibration options". One of these days I'll get round to replacing my sticks, but you can give that menu a try
Thanks 👍Aixun T3A I did a video on repairing it, as it had a problem, it turned out to be the actual diode I was re-soldering failing internally so I updated the video description. I really like it. It takes about 3 seconds to heat up.
You can make minor adjustment by de-soldering the pot legs that needs adjusting and twist it very slightly the in direction needed then solder (Or sodder if you are an American) the legs.
what if you tried removing and turning the thumb sticks 1/4 turn at a time if they restrict the movement and could be not quite round..just a thought :)
Thanks Dave, good idea. It took me a little while to understand what you meant. The joystick caps lets call them only seem to fit in two orientations as the shaft coming out of the joystick is more of an oblong shape than a square.
@@BuyitFixit ah..i thought it would just be a square..but if you can fit it 2 different ways and also you mix the thumb sticks up when re-assembling it lol
Hall effect analogs are the answer , but Microsoft won’t use them, will cost them millions. One of the reason they are now banning third party controllers in my opinion
Wouldn't it be great to have an xbox game where every stupid politician that you hate was in it,and the whole lot of past and present ' This Morning ' tv show presenters were splattered with your virtual assault rifle . ?
Never had stick drift with the earlier consoles. Problems started with PS5 for me. I opted for Hall effect sticks when I repaired mine and it has been working well. There was some talk about certain versions of Hall stick not being compatible and needing some fancy intermediate PCB & programming to make them work, but IIRC I paid about £7 each for the ones I bought and as I say, no issues, just solder & play.
I will say I wish I'd had some low-melt solder though....
And, yes, always change them both while you are in there.
That website is a great tool isn't it.
I've since bought some of those hall effect sticks. They weren't around when I was doing this one. Fitted them in my son's controller and they seem to work great 👍
It's gotta be a case of built to last for the 1 year warranty. They've got it down to an art by now! £££££££
I recently platinum'd Resident Evil 4 remake on the PS4 and original Dualshock 4 controller I purchased about 8 years ago when bloodbourne came out! Only repair I've carried out on the controller was changing the plastic triggers with aluminium ones. The plastic posts had snapped on L2 and R2 triggers. Also, if I remember correctly the PS3's Dualshock 3 had a metal bar in the L2/R2 trigger posts.
Thanks karl good to know, and agree with the 'built to last'. One year that is 😂😂😂
That right stick issue on the first controller did show up when you first tested. I saw it and knew you’d be taking it apart twice. The sticks do auto-centre when you move them around in a circle a few times. That’s why the left stick appeared to go to -1 and 1 while you were explaining the issue. Not sure if there’s a permanent calibration as well.
Thanks Stuart, yes I noticed it too when watching the video back. Guess I missed it at the time. Yes I noticed it did seem to auto centre not sure if that's a permanent thing or not...
@@BuyitFixit I read online that on the Xbox itself there is an option to calibrate the controller under Settings -> Devices -> Controllers or some similar menu. Not sure if that’s a calibration that the controller remembers or if the Xbox remembers the calibration, or if the option exists at all!
@@sdjmchattie I looked in the Accessories menu which let's you perform basic tests on the xbox when doing a video on another xbox controller but alas there seems to be no calibration option. Even the test option is very basic and just displays UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT when pressing the thumbsticks and shows no indication of how much they are being moved 🙁
@@sdjmchattiethis only works when playing on pc
That module you put in place is for the PS4 controller. They have those small posts underneath for clearance. Best to use units designed for the Xbox controllers.
Thanks rory. I had a search on a few electronic suppliers like RS Components, Digikey and the only supplier seemed to be Mouser. I had bought some previously from Ebay that were for xbox but they didn't work properly and I suspect that they may have been copies. I checked the resistance and footprint dimensions before ordering and they seemed to be identical to the xbox ones which is why I ended up ordering them.
They both use alps analogs , identical . The model you have purchased is correct. They are centred using software not available to the public . Apart from chopping and changing the potentiometers or buying a bag of potentiometers and using a multimeter to test them , so you get two very similar reading , they will always be off centre . Anything under 10% won’t drift , but you want as close to 0 as possible so they last longer
No doubt about the fact that the don't make them as durable as the old ones, I still have my original xbox and the controllers work flawless even the third party controller still works, there must be a way to change how the controller interprets the imputs in order to center it. But once again thanks for all the time and effort you put into making the videos
Thanks Morten 👍I did see some hall effect joystick replacements for the steam deck and Nintendo switch. I had been wondering if I could buy one of those and adapt is somehow...
@@BuyitFixit if you ever get a very broken controller it could be interesting experimenting with it
I can confirm opening a sealed xbox one controller vs series controller it’s so much harder to open a xbox one original controller it genially hurts my fingers but series controller is super easy to open I can open it with my bear hands.
The easiest fix is the “sticky” bumper fix it’s where you take it apart and just open the bumper and put back together then it should work if not replace them with new ones but clean around the area with a toothbrush and isopropyl alcohol first and it should work just fine.. I’m thinking about buying cheap “broken” controllers that have bumper issues and just replacing them as I have lots of spare parts from my brothers controllers.
Another thing that you can do is buy broken controllers with stick drift and replace the sticks with Hall Effect sticks that are now available quite cheap on eBay. You could then sell those at quite a profit as now they shouldn't ever get stick drift!
@@BuyitFixit I don’t have a soldering machine or anything to do this so bumpers are easier for me as I have controllers that stack up for me I have about 4 spare bumpers and parts and stuff
Like you did say, the middle part of the joystick restrict it from moving too far, so maybe you can take a bit of plastic away in the hole of the cover.
That will only work if it can't travel enough.
Excellent work, methodical and intelligent. Well done.
Thanks Peter👍Appreciate the feedback 🙂
Brilliant fixes very methodical and well executed well done thank you 😊
Thank you too Cucumber Man for your nice comments 👍
@@BuyitFixit you deserve it you do a good job 👍
Thanks 👍
Interesting as ever. Does the very slightly off centre return of a couple of the sticks cause drift in the games or it it small enough not to affect game play?
Thanks Chris it didn't seem to affect gameplay at all. I still haven't heard anything from Nathan...
Hi,
Thanks for the video, I learn a lot from them and I have seen most of yours now, also following my mate vince, because of you.
I am searching for this blue tec, but I cant seem to find it, can you tell me what it is really called and how I can get it.
Keep up the gooed work!
Thanks, oh you mean blu-tack it's often used for putting up posters and Christmas cards etc. It's not really an electrical product but it does come in handy for keeping things in place 🙂👍
@@BuyitFixit Thanks, now with the correct name I found it, I live in the Belgium, but its called the same here.😀
Xbox controllers can be recalibrated using windows, connect - device manager - properties - recalibrate
Yes, but only when you are using the controller on a PC. It doesn't actually calibrate the controller but just adds an offset value in software, and has no effect when it's being used on an Xbox.
@@BuyitFixit there's an option to recalibrate them on the Xbox as well. I'm not sure how it works, but it's in the "Xbox Accessories" app. Click the 3 dots and then scroll down to "Recalibration options". One of these days I'll get round to replacing my sticks, but you can give that menu a try
Great job on the controllers. What soldering iron do you use.
Thanks 👍Aixun T3A I did a video on repairing it, as it had a problem, it turned out to be the actual diode I was re-soldering failing internally so I updated the video description. I really like it. It takes about 3 seconds to heat up.
Great video and thank you for sharing!!!
Thanks Frozerinos 👍
You can make minor adjustment by de-soldering the pot legs that needs adjusting and twist it very slightly the in direction needed then solder (Or sodder if you are an American) the legs.
Heya, could be a faulty lot but again a nice repair
Cheers 👍
Much more fun when the plastic runs away. Almost as much as Caps disappearing LOL
😂😂😂👍
what if you tried removing and turning the thumb sticks 1/4 turn at a time if they restrict the movement and could be not quite round..just a thought :)
Thanks Dave, good idea. It took me a little while to understand what you meant. The joystick caps lets call them only seem to fit in two orientations as the shaft coming out of the joystick is more of an oblong shape than a square.
@@BuyitFixit ah..i thought it would just be a square..but if you can fit it 2 different ways and also you mix the thumb sticks up when re-assembling it lol
@@weldore1 Good point. I would have thought that the thumbsticks would all me made the same.
Hall effect analogs are the answer , but Microsoft won’t use them, will cost them millions. One of the reason they are now banning third party controllers in my opinion
Agree, I've seen a couple of conversion kits for the Switch, PS4 and Steam deck. I've not looked recently to see if there is a kit for the XBOX yet.
Do you play Warzone or DMZ also?
DMZ with my son in law and his mate, but we had a go on the new zombies that came out in the early hours.. and ended up going to bed at 4am 😂😂😂
There badly made not a patch on the 360 controller build quality
Yes, I can't remember ever having stick drift on the 360 or pretty much any other console I care to remember, until this one.
😮 Tearing through people in the game 😂
😂😂😂👍
Trying. To. Fix. Faulty Xbox. Collectors. Job. Lot
These analog pot based joystics are poor design. a new technology should be developed.
Yes, you can now buy replacement hall effect sticks fairly cheap on Ebay. I just fitted a couple to my sons controller a week or two ago.
Wouldn't it be great to have an xbox game where every stupid politician that you hate was in it,and the whole lot of past and present ' This Morning ' tv show presenters were splattered with your virtual assault rifle . ?
LOL😂😂😂
think you got the wrong ones should use these RKJXV1220001
Oh? Any idea what the difference is?
I've just done a search and on the mouser site the RKJXV1220001 doesn't have the button when you click the thumb stick down.