If you enchant a crossbow with the reloading enchantment could your artificer use its arcane armorment to attack twice with it because its magical and it automatically reloads
Other classes with extra attack do NOT spend a bonus action for the additional swing, it's just 1 (or up to 3 for fighter) extra attack with your weapon whenever you take the "Attack" action. You're probably thinking of dual wielders, who do use a bonus action for their off-hand weapon attack.
I'm currently playing an artificer. He started as an artillerist until the battlesmith was added. I changed it to the battlemsith because the overall support & offense for the Artificer is pretty lack-luster. Still a fun concept but I think the class still needs more oomph
I worked with my dm to make it possible for the artificer to enchant magical items but require the base magic scripture for what they are trying to infuse it into said item the way we did it was for each spell level costs the same as a wizard transcribing a spell into their spellbook also it’s able to disenchant items into scroll form, also we worked with geology stuff to make cool things like a ruby is needed for a fireball ring or my personal favorite taking a salt crystal and enchanting a temp hp restoration the same as a 2d4 hp potion and it’ll get bigger as I level
currently playing a battlesmith. I noticed a lot of paladin and cleric spells so I reflvoured him as a sort of tech-priest of 'the earthbreaker', who invented the warforged (homebrew setting, not eberron). I originally wanted to do a crossbow build BUT in practice it did not turn out that well. originally I was using the heavy crossbow but the iron defender's defensive pounce ability and unimpressive HP and AC mean that they are more of an off-tank than a replacement for a true tank (which my party lacked). I am using a sword and shield now and I'm the hardest guy to kill and the second heaviest-hitter (we got a +2 longsword as part of the main plot and I infused the shield to be +1. gave the rogue a +1 shortsword). the DM realized I could heal the defender with a cantrip so the monsters stopped targetting leonardo (my iron defender is a mechanical lion called leonardo although the rest of the party call him 'leonard') at artificer 5 you get warding bond and branding smite which are good spells to sit back in the backline with since both work at a range BUT branding smite is very situational. I can see a case for warding bond but at 5th level artificers get acess to the 'blur' spell which can make you a really good tank.
It’s impossible to be a artificer Kenku right? With the lack of creativity and all. I wanted to be a kenku with a warforged muscle. It would be a translator and bodyguard. Would it be possible to find a way to do this?
The beauty of Dnd is that you can do whatever you want! There's no rule stating that they cannot be one. I'd just talk to your DM about it and if they say ok you're golden. Maybe they'll be something with the official artificer release in November, but I doubt it!
@@rpgmd6471 yeah I wanna get something that'll boost me up and cover some of the bards short comings. Those last couple levels suck. I'm also having a hell of a time deciding on what to steal with magical secrets. Last time I stole lightening bolt and flame strike. This time I'm not so sure.
@@rpgmd6471 I am lv 14 so I was thinking Disintegration and conjure celestial. My scheme is that when I get wish I'll make a wish that my summon celestial spell be able to be cast with any spell slot but always have the power of a level 9 conjure celestial. So I can get a guardian angel waifu.
I hope bg3 has all the newish stuff since nwn 2 like this class, as it's been a while since an actual strong dnd PC game that isn't some spin off ip in the genre. Fairly sure if artificer is in bg3 it's an easy shoo in as gnome for my first mc, and gnome purely for WoW nostalgia.
@@rpgmd6471 I think some or more of prestige classes weren't official nor was epic level characters when mask of the betrayer came out iirc. And the remasters of bg2 have added new not official subclasses I've heard(but haven't played the series in a long while). And I would assume if interested in a great source of objective data for balancing of a new class since the masses are phenomenal at breaking things and telemetry offers the objectivity, as well finds out what part of a class are not good enough or daunting or unintuitive enough that people underuse skills. I could be way off but slamming a new class in a game that should be a smash success off literally just nostalgia buys would be an ideal place to show off new things that are shiny and new to draw the attention of past but not current players. And wizards as a company has slowly and recently much more quickly been adapting to post millennium gaming led by the huge success of arena(seriously the company celebrated y2k new years for a decade or so before adapting).
It's a good breakdown, but I just don't like this version of the Artificer. Too much of its mechanics are focused on pets (or pet like objects). Still prefer the Kibbles Artificer by a mile if I'm going to be actually playing an Artificer.
@@rpgmd6471 sweet one of my all time favorite characters and yet one I've never been able to rp in any of the genres games to the point I feel good about a fairly decent translation. Now just left with mat from wheel of time left if this pays off. Sadly unsure if any game system has even attempted partially insane luck sack as a class 😭 wahoo woh.
Have you ever wanted to give your GM the finger and pick a class that's incredibly broken? Well now you can with the artificer! Now you can make indestructible mounts, indestructible items, magical and wondrous items, you can replicate stuff AND you can permanently augment items. Do you hate everyone at your table and want to be a massive Mary Sue douchebag? Well now you can by picking a warforged envoy artificer! Now you're the ONLY race that can have an AC of 22 at lvl 20 when wearing nothing (24 if you have a shield), that can start with a permanently attached tool that can never be taken away which you have expertise in. You don't have to sleep, you're immune to disease, you're resistant AND resilient to poison and you don't require food to survive. And hey, since the makers of D&D don't give a flying f*** when it comes to balance you can be easily healed by other party members eliminating the ONLY weakness artificers previously had. Now go forth and ruin D&D for as many people as possible.
...You are blowing this far out of proportion. With all my research I found out that, yes, the artificer is a strong class. But it is far from being "indestructible". The artificer changes nothing that is not already existing in the game. The items can be easily destroyed. Hell with the Battlesmith they literally give you options to heal that thing because they expect it to go down quickly. It's also not true that you permanently augment Items. You can only augment a very low number of them if we speak about actual combat. While it is true that you can give effects to a high number, those effects concern itself with basic stuff like "Make it smell like this" "Make it glow in the dark", essentially the glorified version of a cantrip with no damage applications whatsoever. If we talk about infusions? You can only infuse items that are specifically named in the infusions and you have to learn that infusion first. This means you cannot just pick up an item and give it a +1 because you feel like it. Then there is your "Point" about replicating Wonderous Items. Yes, you can do that. With a Level Cap. A few times. With specifically named items. There is a specific selection of Items listed, name by name, with restrictions of how many at the same time and at which level you can replicate. This is very cool since you have to spend no money but is far from broken in any way. Here is an example: Alchemy jug No Bag of holding No Cap of water breathing No Cloak of the manta ray No Goggles of night No Lantern of revealing No Rope of climbing No Sending stones No Wand of magic detection No Wand of secrets No That is what you can do from level 2...to LEVEL 12! 10 Levels before you can replicate a more powerful effect. And everytime you take that infusion, you can replicate exactly the singular Item you picked. How many infusions do you get till level20? 8 You can replicate the effects 8 items if you pick the infusion, every. single. time. 8 Items. Again, this his strong at a high level but...Really? Get to level 12. Get there. Then you can complain. And finally: What the majority of your argument here states is just things about the war forged. Things that, I have to remind you, you also got wrong. Again it is true that the warforged is pretty strong. But that thing is a playtest...And its fully expected to change... Pretty much the best thing about the warforged are the ability not to sleep (Though you still have to rest for 6 hours), immune to disease and resilient to poison as well as not having to eat or breath. Compare that however to Humans who get 6 ability score points for free and I highly question which one is more broken. Why? Because the Strengths of the Warforged are primarily in his utility. While the tool that is integrated cannot be disarmed, it can still be broken. Not to mention that EVERY SPELL THAT APPLIES TO A HUMAN ALSO APPLIES TO WARFORGED. GOOD AND BAD. Meaning that you can easily confuse, mind control, dominate, curse, blast, and god knows what else. If your benchmark is: "This race is versatile and can reach High AC" I wonder if you ONLY have martials in your enemies. The point about the armor is equally as easy to refute since the Warforged cannot wear it. What you describe is his ability to shift his body to get more AC, which in turn is depending on the proficiency you have. I play a Warforged Bard and while his AC is higher than it would normally be, I still go down pretty regular. It's not unbeatable. If I would dream to achieve the things you are talking about, we are talking about taking stuff like Medium or Heavy Armor Proficiency, which in turn comes with its own setbacks. So much to the "The only weakness Artificers have" Also: If your benchmark is: "Hey this class is absolute shite because if I combine it with this race and do everything to break it, it's broken! ALSO LEVEL 20" You are also one of the guys who would state that the Artificer has access to "Lucky" and thus sucks huh? Because I can guarantee you that a Level 20 Wizard would give 2 shites about your warforged and blast you to kingdom come. Because of Wizard. And Finally: What you describe there is not only a Character that is optimized to the absolute max but also, as you put it, "a massive Mary Sue douchebag who hates everybody on his table". Which, believe it or not, I can do with every fucking class. Artificer's greatest strength is his versatility. He can heal, fight, tank, fill every role needed very well while still helping his group. Only an utter idiot or a selfish prick would use every power solely for himself, at which point no balancing helps you anymore. "Oh the cleric is just healing himself...Well, guess 5e just has no balancing". I will play an Artificer soon and I would be damned if I did not hand out an infusion or 2 to my allies. Be it a protective shield, an infusion that reloads their crossbows or that sweet +1 magic bonus on my buddies longsword. I am sorry but...What you are posting here is laughable. You go from one of the BEST COMBOS, ON THE HIGHEST LEVEL, which your GM signed off without any question, playing it as an absolute cut...And then call the thing broken. That says so much more about your playstyle than it says about the class. Honestly. If your first impulse is "OH I CAN USE THIS FOR MYSELF FUCK YOU GUYS", the fuck does that say about you. If you have people like that in your groups, they are the problem not the class. You might as well complain about Warlocks because you have a way better chance of being right there from the few games I saw so far. Get a god damn grip man...
Dude the white background with the spots and the fake shadow is completely distracting.
Also, the background audio noise is just as annoying.
i am more distracted by his ginormous teeth
I just cleaned my screen thinking all the sudden it was dirty or something lol
I played a firbolg artificer, it was so much fun. I miss playing him.
If you enchant a crossbow with the reloading enchantment could your artificer use its arcane armorment to attack twice with it because its magical and it automatically reloads
Yes
I keep cleaning my monitor trying to get rid of the spots.
If I could change it now I would T.T I don't know how I didn't notice them initally
Super helpful and informative!! Thank you!!
Its pronounced like the word marshal. Martial (marshal) weapons
Other classes with extra attack do NOT spend a bonus action for the additional swing, it's just 1 (or up to 3 for fighter) extra attack with your weapon whenever you take the "Attack" action. You're probably thinking of dual wielders, who do use a bonus action for their off-hand weapon attack.
Thank you for the timestamps.
I'm currently playing an artificer. He started as an artillerist until the battlesmith was added. I changed it to the battlemsith because the overall support & offense for the Artificer is pretty lack-luster. Still a fun concept but I think the class still needs more oomph
Glad you're enjoying still at least!
I worked with my dm to make it possible for the artificer to enchant magical items but require the base magic scripture for what they are trying to infuse it into said item the way we did it was for each spell level costs the same as a wizard transcribing a spell into their spellbook also it’s able to disenchant items into scroll form, also we worked with geology stuff to make cool things like a ruby is needed for a fireball ring or my personal favorite taking a salt crystal and enchanting a temp hp restoration the same as a 2d4 hp potion and it’ll get bigger as I level
Very cool, though sounds like a headache to balance!
Battle Smith isn't restricted to Melee, their Int. and other weapon features all work just as well with Ranged weapons as much as they do with Melee.
Definitely a solid option as well! Didn't men to portray that it was melee or bust!
currently playing a battlesmith. I noticed a lot of paladin and cleric spells so I reflvoured him as a sort of tech-priest of 'the earthbreaker', who invented the warforged (homebrew setting, not eberron).
I originally wanted to do a crossbow build BUT in practice it did not turn out that well. originally I was using the heavy crossbow but the iron defender's defensive pounce ability and unimpressive HP and AC mean that they are more of an off-tank than a replacement for a true tank (which my party lacked). I am using a sword and shield now and I'm the hardest guy to kill and the second heaviest-hitter (we got a +2 longsword as part of the main plot and I infused the shield to be +1. gave the rogue a +1 shortsword).
the DM realized I could heal the defender with a cantrip so the monsters stopped targetting leonardo (my iron defender is a mechanical lion called leonardo although the rest of the party call him 'leonard')
at artificer 5 you get warding bond and branding smite which are good spells to sit back in the backline with since both work at a range BUT branding smite is very situational. I can see a case for warding bond but at 5th level artificers get acess to the 'blur' spell which can make you a really good tank.
Let me tell what I'm going to do I made for my club at school a necromancer but I'm going to walk in with this Omega being named clunk
Very informative, thank you very much :3
You're going to need to make an updated version of the guide, Artificer has been made official in the new Eberon content.
Aware! And it's on the agenda but thanks
thank you!
You're very welcome!
It’s impossible to be a artificer Kenku right? With the lack of creativity and all.
I wanted to be a kenku with a warforged muscle. It would be a translator and bodyguard.
Would it be possible to find a way to do this?
The beauty of Dnd is that you can do whatever you want! There's no rule stating that they cannot be one. I'd just talk to your DM about it and if they say ok you're golden. Maybe they'll be something with the official artificer release in November, but I doubt it!
You saw someone else do it, easy, not your idea
Give him a stash of stolen blueprints.
So goblin or bugbear artificer?
- Can you also cast a Cantrip through your spectral mind Manifestation with the Archivist sub-class?
I would say that falls under spells yes
I considered taking this as a sub class for my bard. However I don't know because I only have planned to have 2-levels to spare.
Yeah hard to justify it till level 3!
@@rpgmd6471 yeah I wanna get something that'll boost me up and cover some of the bards short comings. Those last couple levels suck. I'm also having a hell of a time deciding on what to steal with magical secrets. Last time I stole lightening bolt and flame strike. This time I'm not so sure.
Eldritch Blast is always fun
@@rpgmd6471 I am lv 14 so I was thinking Disintegration and conjure celestial. My scheme is that when I get wish I'll make a wish that my summon celestial spell be able to be cast with any spell slot but always have the power of a level 9 conjure celestial. So I can get a guardian angel waifu.
I hope bg3 has all the newish stuff since nwn 2 like this class, as it's been a while since an actual strong dnd PC game that isn't some spin off ip in the genre. Fairly sure if artificer is in bg3 it's an easy shoo in as gnome for my first mc, and gnome purely for WoW nostalgia.
I actually doubt that they would add it since it's still not an "official" class, but it would certainly be a pleasant surprised to see it.
@@rpgmd6471 I think some or more of prestige classes weren't official nor was epic level characters when mask of the betrayer came out iirc. And the remasters of bg2 have added new not official subclasses I've heard(but haven't played the series in a long while).
And I would assume if interested in a great source of objective data for balancing of a new class since the masses are phenomenal at breaking things and telemetry offers the objectivity, as well finds out what part of a class are not good enough or daunting or unintuitive enough that people underuse skills.
I could be way off but slamming a new class in a game that should be a smash success off literally just nostalgia buys would be an ideal place to show off new things that are shiny and new to draw the attention of past but not current players.
And wizards as a company has slowly and recently much more quickly been adapting to post millennium gaming led by the huge success of arena(seriously the company celebrated y2k new years for a decade or so before adapting).
Could also just have an incorrect understanding of what was up to date official around MotB, mainly epic(21-30) content.
Monk/Battlemaster - Artificer...
Increased proficiency?
Well this warforge artificer is gonna get pretty nuts
I thought my screen was dirty
It's a good breakdown, but I just don't like this version of the Artificer. Too much of its mechanics are focused on pets (or pet like objects). Still prefer the Kibbles Artificer by a mile if I'm going to be actually playing an Artificer.
To each their own! Maybe by actual release theyll be more specialists with less of a pet focus
previos edition of the artificer had the humonculas pet as a core part of its lore and mechanics
Does the iron Defender piss oil? Can I have it piss on a zombie's leg, then firebolt that shit for fun and profit? Someone thumb this up for 'yes'!
So jarlaxle would've been an artificer if those books were re done?
I don't think it's that far fetched!
@@rpgmd6471 sweet one of my all time favorite characters and yet one I've never been able to rp in any of the genres games to the point I feel good about a fairly decent translation. Now just left with mat from wheel of time left if this pays off. Sadly unsure if any game system has even attempted partially insane luck sack as a class 😭 wahoo woh.
@@bigwig8657 a rogue with the lucky feat is about as close as you can hope for
I was thinking of making an artificer who has a massive 2 ton partly destroyed robot but Be really weak without it
The big disadvantage of that is you'll be useless anywhere the 2 ton robot cant fit!
That’s the balancing factor
I'd certainly be interested in how it plays out!
@@Aconspiracyofravens1 you could make it a transformable robot that morphs into a ball like Samus and gets into tight spaces.
Well the point is that I a really vulnerable without the robot
I thought they got rid of gunsmith?!?!?
They did.
Have you ever wanted to give your GM the finger and pick a class that's incredibly broken? Well now you can with the artificer! Now you can make indestructible mounts, indestructible items, magical and wondrous items, you can replicate stuff AND you can permanently augment items.
Do you hate everyone at your table and want to be a massive Mary Sue douchebag? Well now you can by picking a warforged envoy artificer! Now you're the ONLY race that can have an AC of 22 at lvl 20 when wearing nothing (24 if you have a shield), that can start with a permanently attached tool that can never be taken away which you have expertise in. You don't have to sleep, you're immune to disease, you're resistant AND resilient to poison and you don't require food to survive.
And hey, since the makers of D&D don't give a flying f*** when it comes to balance you can be easily healed by other party members eliminating the ONLY weakness artificers previously had.
Now go forth and ruin D&D for as many people as possible.
...You are blowing this far out of proportion. With all my research I found out that, yes, the artificer is a strong class. But it is far from being "indestructible". The artificer changes nothing that is not already existing in the game. The items can be easily destroyed. Hell with the Battlesmith they literally give you options to heal that thing because they expect it to go down quickly. It's also not true that you permanently augment Items. You can only augment a very low number of them if we speak about actual combat. While it is true that you can give effects to a high number, those effects concern itself with basic stuff like "Make it smell like this" "Make it glow in the dark", essentially the glorified version of a cantrip with no damage applications whatsoever.
If we talk about infusions? You can only infuse items that are specifically named in the infusions and you have to learn that infusion first. This means you cannot just pick up an item and give it a +1 because you feel like it.
Then there is your "Point" about replicating Wonderous Items. Yes, you can do that.
With a Level Cap.
A few times.
With specifically named items.
There is a specific selection of Items listed, name by name, with restrictions of how many at the same time and at which level you can replicate. This is very cool since you have to spend no money but is far from broken in any way. Here is an example:
Alchemy jug No
Bag of holding No
Cap of water breathing No
Cloak of the manta ray No
Goggles of night No
Lantern of revealing No
Rope of climbing No
Sending stones No
Wand of magic detection No
Wand of secrets No
That is what you can do from level 2...to LEVEL 12! 10 Levels before you can replicate a more powerful effect. And everytime you take that infusion, you can replicate exactly the singular Item you picked. How many infusions do you get till level20?
8
You can replicate the effects 8 items if you pick the infusion, every. single. time.
8 Items.
Again, this his strong at a high level but...Really? Get to level 12. Get there. Then you can complain.
And finally: What the majority of your argument here states is just things about the war forged. Things that, I have to remind you, you also got wrong. Again it is true that the warforged is pretty strong. But that thing is a playtest...And its fully expected to change...
Pretty much the best thing about the warforged are the ability not to sleep (Though you still have to rest for 6 hours), immune to disease and resilient to poison as well as not having to eat or breath.
Compare that however to Humans who get 6 ability score points for free and I highly question which one is more broken. Why? Because the Strengths of the Warforged are primarily in his utility. While the tool that is integrated cannot be disarmed, it can still be broken. Not to mention that EVERY SPELL THAT APPLIES TO A HUMAN ALSO APPLIES TO WARFORGED. GOOD AND BAD. Meaning that you can easily confuse, mind control, dominate, curse, blast, and god knows what else. If your benchmark is: "This race is versatile and can reach High AC" I wonder if you ONLY have martials in your enemies.
The point about the armor is equally as easy to refute since the Warforged cannot wear it. What you describe is his ability to shift his body to get more AC, which in turn is depending on the proficiency you have. I play a Warforged Bard and while his AC is higher than it would normally be, I still go down pretty regular. It's not unbeatable. If I would dream to achieve the things you are talking about, we are talking about taking stuff like Medium or Heavy Armor Proficiency, which in turn comes with its own setbacks. So much to the "The only weakness Artificers have"
Also: If your benchmark is: "Hey this class is absolute shite because if I combine it with this race and do everything to break it, it's broken! ALSO LEVEL 20" You are also one of the guys who would state that the Artificer has access to "Lucky" and thus sucks huh? Because I can guarantee you that a Level 20 Wizard would give 2 shites about your warforged and blast you to kingdom come.
Because of Wizard.
And Finally: What you describe there is not only a Character that is optimized to the absolute max but also, as you put it, "a massive Mary Sue douchebag who hates everybody on his table". Which, believe it or not, I can do with every fucking class. Artificer's greatest strength is his versatility. He can heal, fight, tank, fill every role needed very well while still helping his group. Only an utter idiot or a selfish prick would use every power solely for himself, at which point no balancing helps you anymore. "Oh the cleric is just healing himself...Well, guess 5e just has no balancing". I will play an Artificer soon and I would be damned if I did not hand out an infusion or 2 to my allies. Be it a protective shield, an infusion that reloads their crossbows or that sweet +1 magic bonus on my buddies longsword.
I am sorry but...What you are posting here is laughable. You go from one of the BEST COMBOS, ON THE HIGHEST LEVEL, which your GM signed off without any question, playing it as an absolute cut...And then call the thing broken. That says so much more about your playstyle than it says about the class. Honestly. If your first impulse is "OH I CAN USE THIS FOR MYSELF FUCK YOU GUYS", the fuck does that say about you. If you have people like that in your groups, they are the problem not the class. You might as well complain about Warlocks because you have a way better chance of being right there from the few games I saw so far.
Get a god damn grip man...
the mic is not good
I don't mean this in a bad way, but fix your audio and remove that annoying background and I'd watch more.
any feedback is apprechiated
@@rpgmd6471 Cool, it was meant to be constructive criticism.
Isnt the Artificer just a subclass for the Wizard?
Only back in much older editions. It's been its own class for a while!
*laughs in Simic Hybrid Artificer* You fool!
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