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Divination in Hellenism | HELLENISM 101

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  • Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
  • Better late than never with a BEAST of a video. Also didn't help I disappeared for another weekend 😅 Anyway. Enjoy! Also! Thank you all so so much for the 1k 🧡
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    Link to Homeric Oracle:
    www.hellenion....
    Link to Alphabet Oracle:
    opsopaus.com/OM...
    Link to statue oracle:
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    PRIMARY SOURCES:
    • On Divination by Cicero
    • Homeric Hymn to Hermes
    • Prometheus Bound by Aeschylus
    • Works and Days by Hesiod
    • The Iliad by Homer
    • The Odyssey by Homer
    • Orphic Hymn 51 to the Nymphs
    • Pausanias' Guide to Greece Book 3
    • Phaedrus by Plato
    • On the Heaves by Aristotle
    • Confessions by Augustine
    • Interpretation of Dreams by Artemidorus
    • The Greek Magical Papyri
    SECONDARY SOURCES:
    • Ancient Greek Divination by Sarah Iles Johnston
    • Ancient Studies in Divination by Johnston, Burkert et al
    RUclips CHANNELS
    • Aliakai: https: / aliakai
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    For business inquiries: feltheblithe@gmail.com
    I also am a co-host of the the podcast Test Tubes and Cauldrons, an intersection of science and spirituality. Find us here or anywhere you get podcasts: / @testtubesandcauldrons...
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    Sound is: 20110409.choir.01.wav by dobroide and is licensed under the Attribution License. Found on Freesound.
    Lamp is: Oil lamp, 3rd c AD, AM of Nemea, 201854 and s licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license.
    Astragaloi is: Knuckle bones in the archeological museum at Kyrenia Castle in Girne, Cyprus. and is licensed under CC BY-SA 4.0
    Song is "Hum Song" written and produced by me and is licensed under the Attribution 4.0 license, contact me for use.
    TIMESTAMPS:
    0:00 Introduction
    0:30 What is and why divination?
    4:10 Divination in the Classical Age
    5:50 How did they think divination worked?
    9:35 "Low" vs "High" Divination
    10:45 Types of Divination
    11:02 Augury
    12:45 Entrail reading
    13:56 Dreams
    15:23 Dice & Lots
    20:15 Scrying
    24:22 Nature & Chance happenings
    25:46 What about astrology and necromancy?
    27:44 Application to the modern age
    30:44 *Bonus Divination by art
    32:10 Conclusion

Комментарии • 47

  • @emcleverton
    @emcleverton 2 года назад +21

    A very spicy video. One would say....it was an EXTRA SPICY video!

  • @J_N1986
    @J_N1986 2 года назад +27

    I really love your videos and find them extremely interesting. I'm not a Hellenic polytheist myself...I've been courting a more Norse path, but the way you go about sourcing information and how you utilize it can be widely applicable IMO. Please continue to upload new videos and thanks for all the great information. (Plus your videos are fun and entertaining too. 😁)

    • @FeltheBlithe
      @FeltheBlithe  2 года назад +4

      Glad you enjoy them!! I work hard to keep them informative but engaging

  • @michaelurvoy
    @michaelurvoy 2 года назад +24

    I have to say, Fel, it is so refreshing to watch videos that have had real research put into them and show sources.
    I love that you mention Schrodinger's cat! 😍 You really speak to my inner nerd on so many levels.

    • @FeltheBlithe
      @FeltheBlithe  2 года назад +1

      Thank you haha I really try to show my sources cause I'm always a bit bothered when folks don't so I can't check them. But also they're good info in case someone wants to take it a little farther!

  • @Raphsophomes
    @Raphsophomes Год назад +2

    Hey.. your the only youtuber on this topic whom doesnt make me feel cold and kinda stuck in my head lol , thank you for being you.... i really am glad you exist.

  • @easymakbushcraftphotograph5113
    @easymakbushcraftphotograph5113 2 года назад +7

    I just recently started delving into Hellenic Polytheism and so far I'm enjoying it. I found your channel last night and have to say it is my favorite on the topic so far. Very informative, yet quirky and fun. And it definitely appeals to my inner nerd. Keep it up!
    As for this video in particular, I have two comments:
    1. I noticed when you were discussing divination by statue and the NeoPlatonic views on that, it sparked your own "unexpected divination" as it were - it made you realize that your artistic offerings were perfect, even when you felt they were flawed. So maybe, just maybe...while you may not particularly agree with the NeoPlatonic ideals, perhaps the Gods were using them to speak to you? I just liked that in a discussion about types of divination, you inadvertently mentioned a divination of your own.
    2. I don't care how it's actually pronounced - the reading of entrails will forever be known as extra-spicy in my mind. Hahahaha
    Anyway. Done rambling, and I look forward to seeing more!

    • @FeltheBlithe
      @FeltheBlithe  2 года назад +3

      Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it 😊 And perhaps that was the case! I think the gods can speak to us through places we don't expect-I've had moments with victorian writing that have resonated with me, even though we all know how I feel about that 😂

  • @1NaturalMystik1
    @1NaturalMystik1 2 года назад +2

    scrying isn't seeing images that come from your thoughts while your looking into something, but is moving past your inner dialogue and see whats beyond you. thats why it's such a difficult (and not a popular) skill to learn is because you have to first recognize and see your inner dialogue (while looking into something) as well as have to move past it to actually be able to scry.

  • @SafdarAli-ow4ij
    @SafdarAli-ow4ij 3 месяца назад

    I am never tired of you, you are amazing in your voice and in your physical spiritual demeanors. How much blessed you are by the gods and goddesses!

  • @grace-4072
    @grace-4072 6 месяцев назад

    I just have to say a HUGE thank you as a hard of hearing practitioner for putting clear and concise captions in your videos! ❤

  • @h3a4t7e8s
    @h3a4t7e8s 2 года назад +4

    I am still super happy to have found your channel all your videos are so well done and well sourced ty for helping me and others on our path ♥

  • @Poemsforpisces
    @Poemsforpisces Год назад +3

    I love your channel. Ty for your time. I guess it’s a great time in history to be a Hellenistic polytheist bcs not many ppl are into it so the gods can give each of us lots of attention hehe.
    Do you know of any communities we can join? I saw your 11 things I wish I’d known video and it mentions community and it would be great to find one

    • @FeltheBlithe
      @FeltheBlithe  Год назад

      There are a couple discords around! I'd recommend seeking one of those out. Aliakai has one and there's also Hieros Elaionas.

  • @liessalibros
    @liessalibros 2 года назад +6

    Hi, i love your videos, I would love to see some info about Persephone and how to honor her or how to set up an altar to her. Thanks.

    • @FeltheBlithe
      @FeltheBlithe  2 года назад +2

      Just answered your comment in my Deities video 😊

    • @liessalibros
      @liessalibros 2 года назад

      I didn't get the notification, I'll go to check it. Thank you dear!

  • @Anton_the_Vampire
    @Anton_the_Vampire 2 года назад +4

    Fascinating. I made myself a deck of cards, based on the Alphabet Oracle some years ago, & plan to revisit that. I might even make a wooden set sometime. I'm not sure what other materials would be appropriate. Any advice? Also, did the Ancient Greeks ever use pendulae/pendulums for divination?

    • @FeltheBlithe
      @FeltheBlithe  2 года назад +1

      Pendulums are actually pretty spotty when it comes to divination for what we use them for (they were often used to find water or had some other aspect that gets left out). As for materials, whatever you like. I personally like wood and clay

  • @Davlavi
    @Davlavi 2 года назад +1

    Dam I love the quote you used at the end

  • @mariaroman8726
    @mariaroman8726 2 года назад

    Staring into candle flames is very relaxing

  • @anmolbirsingh9659
    @anmolbirsingh9659 2 года назад

    just one word AWESOME

  • @Lightless101
    @Lightless101 2 года назад

    That bug was particularly auspicious. 🤣

  • @evangrkinich3350
    @evangrkinich3350 2 года назад +5

    So I’m honoring and worshiping Apollo, and Aphrodite. So I have a candle for them both and I’ve been worshipping Apollo since mid-August and I feel like he is ok with what I do with his candle, and he allows me to snuff it out when I need too, and he isn’t to strict, and I feel like I’m not offending him. Ive recently started to worship Aphrodite and I’m starting to think I shouldn’t snuff her candle as Im new to her and I don’t want to offend her… Is it rude to snuff out deity candles? Im not sure and I don’t want to make a wrong choice…

    • @FeltheBlithe
      @FeltheBlithe  2 года назад +5

      The whole snuffing out vs blowing out is only a debate I became aware of this past year and have been doing either indiscriminately for years and have had no issue 🤷🏻 ultimately the decision is up to you. Nothing bad will happen if you snuff out a candle wrong, it Aphrodite doesn't like it, she will let you know either through intuition or signs.

    • @evangrkinich3350
      @evangrkinich3350 2 года назад +1

      @@FeltheBlithe Ok, I thank your for the quick response and I deeply appreciate it! Thank you so much!

  • @SafdarAli-ow4ij
    @SafdarAli-ow4ij 3 месяца назад

    I love my gods and goddesses of Olympus as they are the only true immortal everlasting eternal gods and goddesses who work with reason wisdom knowledge and science work through the nature and the universe universe with the power and might of truthfulness and real authority and acknowledgement.

  • @SWolf0
    @SWolf0 2 года назад

    Great video!

  • @horaciobarrales1875
    @horaciobarrales1875 Год назад +1

    Hi! Do you think one can practice Hellenism and read tarot/runes? Thanks 🙏🏽

  • @cozygoblin
    @cozygoblin 8 месяцев назад

    You mentioned dice divination but the link isn't in the description. Anyone have that resource?

  • @nekiya4926
    @nekiya4926 2 года назад +1

    Hello I had a question that is off topic. Did Hellenic witches have their own wheel of the year? Or was there anything similar to it?

    • @FeltheBlithe
      @FeltheBlithe  2 года назад

      There is a calender of festival days, usually the Attic calender is what folks follow

  • @Fauna-gt5ii
    @Fauna-gt5ii Год назад

    What about if the egg is the sacrifice? Does that count as Extra Spicy?

  • @BITTU_BOSS1303
    @BITTU_BOSS1303 2 года назад +2

    WHAT WILL I HAVE TO DO TO CONVERT INTO GREEK POLYTHEISM

    • @PrecariousPorcupine
      @PrecariousPorcupine Месяц назад

      Study the religion (read Hellenic Polytheism: Household Worship as a jumping off point) and then start practicing. There is no official conversion process or ritual, nor do you have to join a group

  • @negansmith9752
    @negansmith9752 2 года назад

    😎

  • @redacted5078
    @redacted5078 2 года назад

    Me watching this remembering how i found over 15 dead birds on my path in the span of a month for no reason:

  • @MsAbz
    @MsAbz 2 года назад

    Do you have any source of bird divination?

  • @eightness888
    @eightness888 2 года назад

    Coin divination. . .?

  • @joutavainen2920
    @joutavainen2920 2 года назад

    do you happen to know where the left and
    right thinking originates in hellenism?
    was it actually a thing there?
    because i´ve never seen that duality in nature..
    there´s directions.. you can walk towards
    the sun, along the river.. there´s upwards,
    towards the sky, downwards, into the earth..
    but to go left or right, i don´t think so,
    it must be late thinking.
    it seems to be one of those made up things
    (especially when connected to moral duality)
    or at the very least very human centric (as
    in left or right handed, left and right side
    of the body, brains, nerves and all that
    medical shit).
    i´ve noticed that there´s a big difference
    between customs that actually come from nature
    (as in living with nature) and those that have
    been developed by later human societies (often to
    escape or predict nature).. as a nature worshipper
    i´m mostly interested in the first category..
    i consider most ritual magic as alien, unpure
    or completely unneeded.. it´s like using language,
    why would you use words when you can roar!
    (levels of pureness, levels of primalness,
    that´s how i think about it).

    • @joutavainen2920
      @joutavainen2920 2 года назад

      i get the physical dimension.. the right hand
      is stronger and more precise than the left
      (except for the left handed) and thus it´s sort
      of natural to think the left as being "worse"
      than the right..
      what feels unnatural (to me) is to extend that
      kind of thinking to everything, especially when
      it seems to be a late trait in human "evolution"
      (you don´t see any weak handed animals do you).
      it´s probably just the human centeredness that
      bothers me.. because even when they did ritual
      turns (in my culture) they always turned "with
      the sun" or "against the sun" (or "with the moon"
      in night rituals, never left or right).
      another good example are the rivers.. they
      always said "that side" or "this side" (never
      right or left).. also all the words for left seem
      to be loan words (which means that they´re
      of late / foreign origin).
      from there alone i could argue that we probably
      never even had a left hand, but two right ones!
      (why would anyone want a weaker hand,
      ridicilous)
      so instead of arguing what´s "left handed" or
      "right handed" just teach your kids to be
      ambidextrous! (you can probably tell i walk
      the middle myself, we´re the most practical
      of all the witches)

    • @rrainbow_jh4419
      @rrainbow_jh4419 2 года назад

      From what I've looked up, in regards to ornithomancy (bird divination) at least, left was negative and right positive as the person doing the divination faced the north, and so the east (rising sun) would be to their right and the west (setting sun) to their left.

    • @joutavainen2920
      @joutavainen2920 2 года назад

      thanks for answering.. it´s much more logical
      when it´s the directions of the sun.. it´s in line with
      the whole outwards way of seeing the world,
      i like it!

  • @Nadia-gb5ps
    @Nadia-gb5ps 2 года назад +3

    you have become my favorite person. let's be friends.