Meanwhile the old 96 f 250 I have has a sledge hammer size dent in the top and what looks like a hatchet hit near the dent and it still opens and closes
Exactly right! It’s getting worse and worse, manufacturers don’t want to sell you theses cars if they had it there way you’d just be renting and they’d control every aspect of your car and charge you more to keep it going than you paid for it…
That's why I'm hesitant to buy a brand new vehicle. Cause I'm thinking ten years or more in the future, when these features fail. My speedometer on my 95 f150 doesn't work properly and my 2005 elantras climate control lighting doesn't work, these are just minor issues that I can deal with and still drive the vehicle. On these newer cars its a different story, cause when some of those fancy new features fail, the car is not drivable.
I reccomend a spray in liner to anyone in at least the northern states, every truck I've ever owned or seen with a plastic bed liner has had the floor and cross members rot right out of it. Alot sooner than with a spray in liner
@@Just-Steve aluminum might not "rust" but it is still prone to corrosion. Plastic bedliners will trap moisture and road salt under them. With the prices of newer trucks these days, I damn sure wouldn't be taking the chance on it
@@jakemartin6039 I have a 2016 GMC with an aluminum body and plastic bed liner, exposed metal on the body of a now 6 year old truck is still bright. Because the thin, hard layer of oxidation on aluminum actually protects the underlying metal. The engineered failures of your "today car" will get you before your choice over a bed liner ever will, and way before aluminum will corrode.
I live in Virginia and used to install these things at Leonard's truck caps in my teenage years. I seen a truck that had a drop in plastic bed liner have it removed after roughly 15 years and the bed underneath was perfect
Honestly if you turn the vehicle off and unscrew the battery (let it sit for a while) you can probably unplug whatever you want without the computer knowing
Good idea forsure but since it only happens when the gate is removed my guess is ford put the module inside the gate and it requires constant power, if it ever looses power such as being disconnected it's memory is dumped immediately, a camera should only be three wires so the truck shouldn't even know but God knows how they have all this stuff tied in to each other. This is why I won't buy a car 2015 or newer
My truck has a had a drop in for almost 32 years and has nothing but some light surface rust on the top of the bed side. Which I repainted. Bed floor is mint. They aren’t as bad as people make them out to be.
Wait. So simply unplugging the tailgate harness and plugging it back in will require recalibration of the camera? I take my tailgate off several times a year for various reasons. Starting to give me yet another reason not to upgrade trucks.
@@justanotheraviator2357 I’m more than capable to do it myself, I have my own shop and Ford IDS. The point is, you shouldn’t have to resort to doing that after doing something as simple and common as removing your tailgate.
It’s the same for any windshield with a camera but sadly if your car has issues recalibratating the camera doesn’t always works and can even make it worse
@@caspercook7337 you're comparing a 26 year old chevy to a brand new ford? The fact that you have a chevy has nothing to do with it operation well. Modern vehicles have so much un necessary electronics in them that no one needs. Trust me a brand new chevy is just as bad as a new ford.
I’ll stick with my old 98 as long as possible, I have no interest in all these bells and whistles, my tailgate does what it was intended, I don’t need to be pampered.
Which is why I’ll stick to my 96 f350. Aftermarket back up camera that can be replaced for $12 off ebay and the only calibration it needs is me to install it leveled 😂
@@BlueOvals24 You care about power…I do not. I care about being able to put 3 pallets of flooring in my bed and not having an issue. And my f350 isn’t dying or decrepit. It’s a purpose built truck, and it’s served it’s purpose beautifully for me.
@@firstnamelastname7275 Well I'll be flying past you on the freeway then with 3 pallets and still get better mpg. It really is an embarrassment how a new F150 can do what an old F350 can do and do it even better.
I had after market spray in liner, did not remove tail gate. But did remove the panel inside the tail gate to allow service to the camera and other guts to tailgate components. 2021 fl50
This is totally understandable. Why would anyone think there wouldn't be an issue? Ppl love locking tail gates / rear view cameras + 360 degree cameras in most F150s ..like me. 👍 Can't beat Ford trucks.
My moms 2020 explorer transmission went out… the new 10 speed failed on her we have only had it a year and a half. Come to find out around 68-70k we’re recalled and we happed to have one of those.
apsolutly correct. i am a ford tech. and we get guys all day long with this problem. no a big deal tho just go to your local ford dealer and the process takes about 30min to reinitialize the camera. if it’s a 360° camera it will take about an hour.
@@christophercrawford2736 if your removing and installing your tailgate often, then i’d suggest relocating the camera to the bumper. yes you’ll have to extend the harness, then again no big deal or you should have bought the appropriate vehicle for the task at hand
@@bmint unfortunately not. it’s a ford dealership software only. if you just know your tailgate is coming on and off this much, honestly just extend the camera harness relocate camera to license plate area and problem solved. only my personal opinion im sure others have there own opinions
It might still show the camera and no error messages if you do it that way!? But I can guarantee that the camera is off! I have worked with the Ford engineering team on this and it always has to be calibrated with the mats afterwards to be 100% accurate. To each their own with how they do things but just be aware that If you are not calibrating these cameras you are liable for any damages done by the operator of the vehicle! It's shitty I know but the way manufacturers word everything with lawyers needs to be taken seriously.
@@jayh9635 false. Think about what you are saying. There is no circuit loop involved. Period. The ecms all are disconnected from power. No data logging is occurring. Come on now..
So i read on one of the online forums [i dont remember which] that as long as the key is far enough away from the truck that it no longer can connect even when you press the buttons you can remove the tailgate just fine. We tested this at the shop i work at and we havent had any issues with the camera needing to be recalibrated all year. [ Also just for added context at the shop i work at our office an spray booth are in seperate buildings, So if you have a much smaller shop this might not be a viable option. ]
I drive a 1989 F350, 1962 100, and 1953 F100. This just solidifies my thinking, "Keep it old school". EDIT: I bought my wife. A new 2020 Suabaru Forester. It's nice I suppose but, I hate it. It is too autonomous.
You mean that every time I remove my tailgate to do some towing or other task, I am going to have to take it back to the dealer to recalibrate the camera's?? That does not sound very user friendly. Is this only the 150's or does this apply to the Superdutys with the 360 cameras as well?
@@highball7347 he's saying there is 2 ways of ordering bed liners. A drop in or a factory spray in. If you have a spray in done after you take ownership (line x or bullet liner for example) or the dealership does it and they remove the tailgate the cameras will have to be programmed. Not real confusing.
I put in said spray in bed liners in at Linex of Richmond and NEVER once has this issue and I do from 5 to 8 liners per day. So whomever is doing this, is doing something wrong
I've stat d the same I take off talegates all day for part of my job we never have this issue not on 1500,2500,3500, ranger, canyon/Colorado, Toyota, Mitsubishi you name it we upfit it
My 98 f150 doesnt seem to have this option of the dash alert for some reason. I'm not sure why. All joking aside; That is insane that this happens. All these bells and whistles make life easier. They also come with a cost.
There are 3 options. The best option is to not get either of the 2 upgrade options. I work construction and abuse the F out of my bed. 7 years of hauling loaded pallets, boxes, A-Frames, etc. There’s almost no paint left on the floor of the bed. It’s aluminum. Plenty tough for respectful use. No, I don’t drop blocks into it like a Chevy commercial.
Gee, that sounds like more Ford Fun. My '21 GMC has the sophisticated all around camera system and the complicated tailgate with camera. My tailgate is removed and storred. I use an aftermarket tailgate that I installed a camera on. I also interchange two other cameras based on different equipment. Never a hint of problem. On or off , running or not. Unplug, re-plug, never a problem. However, if the camera is missing, the entire system goes blank, will not work. Digital electronic. All or nothing.
Not all new f-150s have 360 camera view some have just back up cameras and only need a rear camera reconfigure. And a 360 camera calibration is not needed unless cameras are being replaced or sensors are being replaced
Remember when people knew how to drive, knew where their wheels were and knew how big their vehicle was.... mass pussification underway. If you need cameras, lane departure shit, parking assist, etc... YOU CANT DRIVE. RIDE SHOTTY. Driving is a PRIVILEGE, not a Right..... like Spandex.
What if you disconnect the battery first? Then the computer will have no idea the camera has been disconnected and re-connected. Unless you put in a different cam.
@@MrSleepProductionsInc well that’s kinda dumb. So once every 3 years you gotta reprogram your windows? Or do you just mean rolling them up and down a few times so they can memorize the all the way up and all the way down positions? I don’t call that reprogramming ;)
Why don’t these truck manufactures make a line of trucks that is purely mechanical instead of electronic and call it a “vintage line” or something like that? I’m tired of all these electronic bells and whistles. Just let me purchase a truck that runs as simple as my old craftsman lawnmower and I will be happy.
I agree 100% and some companies allow for really base model car(no a/c, power windows, power locks,etc) but some things are legally required like a backup camera
It is still possible to buy a new Super Duty with manual locks and windows, only having the features mandated by the gov like backup camera. Still costs over $60k tho.
Yeah I spray bedliner at a ford dealership, and we never have had this problem at all. I put the tailgates back on and plug the camera in, it works, no reprogramming, it wouldn’t just stop working after that and suddenly require a reprogram after working so this is just false, at least for 2022-23 Ford Mavericks, rangers, F-150’s, F-250’s, and Chevy 1500’s.
In the Ford body shop I work in I haven't had this issue happen on the last 10-15 trucks I've had the tailgates off of. I wonder what the error that comes up is. Wonder if it's been patched on some of the vehicles?
I do emergency vehicle upfitting and take the tailgate off on every F-150 I do. Never had any issues with the camera or MIL/CEL's. If you don't plug it in, you'll have a problem.
I thought you were gonna say make sure they prep the bed before they sprayed, seen a video where they literally pilled a whole entire piece off ! The dealership is not prepping in the bed therefore the liner is not sticking!!!!
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Please tell me how to find that video. My camera is definitely off as is my collision avoidance, etc. I did the spray in bed liner and also upped my tire diameter.
This is why people should just fix their older vehicles and keep driving them. There's too many features and sensors and computers and not a single one is needed. Maybe heated seats but that's about it.
How long is the cable? Is there any play after loosing the fasteners? Can you unbolt the tailgate and swing it away and put on stands while the bed is sprayed?
I’ve got a 22 platinum f150 that I sprayed myself through the shop I own and I’ve done probably roughly 200 trucks this year alone and haven’t had this issue and or a customer whose came back with an issue at all especially with camera issues 😂 unless the guy really messed with taking the plugs apart
That’s a hassle! I know when you unplug the Tundras camera to take the tailgate off, nothing happens. Just plug it back in and you’re good to go. Maybe it’s because of the 360 camera?
Trucks are meant for work I remove my tailgate at least 5 times a year for loading pallets with a forklift. This is stupid but then I guess most folks don’t work with their truck anymore. Guess I’ll keep my 2003 f150
So if you disconnect the battery first (although a pain in the @$$) does it still require recalibration? So long as the tailgate is put back on before the battery is reconnected. Also out of warranty how much does the calibration cost by ford
wait... so if i put a gooseneck ball in the bed and have to remove the tail gate because i dont normally have mine in anyways. the camera will have to be reprogrammed everytime?... ill just go to walmart buy a camera and the screen and put in myself and prolly save a few hundred bucks.
Cameras by design do not need "configuration". Cameras are Plug n play. If this is the case, Ford went out of the way to force a reconfiguration requirement after disconnection. Meaning ford is just reaching for extra cash from the unsuspecting consumer.
It’s because of all of the thefts. Makes resale pain in the ass. Won’t stop it but you can thank all the thieves for all of these issues with buying property.
Does the spray on bed liner mess with the heated bumper package? I mean I wouldn't want your buddy's hands to get cold when he is pushing you in the winter.
I worked for roushe automotive in michigan on these f 150s and they are trash. 50 miles put on trucks just in 1 parking lot…porters crash them and seats and ccms are not put in properly and they pass them through to customers who only get a discount on the massive parking lot mileage. Crashes and anything else is left to the customers to find out. I used to love fords but 70-115 gs for a p.o.s. Is insane. Also dozens of key fabs get stolen often which means all of these trucks are open season for anyone who has the stolen/default key fabs.
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I'm not 30 yet but that sentence: "if u take the tailgate off, u gotta reprogram it" sounds too futuristic and a bit of a hastle
No chit. You gotta be kidding .
That's Ford for ya.
Meanwhile the old 96 f 250 I have has a sledge hammer size dent in the top and what looks like a hatchet hit near the dent and it still opens and closes
Runnin' wit the hatchet beneath the streets
You also get cameras that can see all around the truck, so fair trade off. Plus if you're not an idiot it's super easy to avoid this.
Yeah all these bells and whistles might be handy, but all they do is cause extra problems it seems.
Depends on manufacturer .. just had my 2021 ram 2500 done and no issues
Exactly right! It’s getting worse and worse, manufacturers don’t want to sell you theses cars if they had it there way you’d just be renting and they’d control every aspect of your car and charge you more to keep it going than you paid for it…
And make the trucks 60k. Bring back cheap base model trucks
That's why I'm hesitant to buy a brand new vehicle. Cause I'm thinking ten years or more in the future, when these features fail. My speedometer on my 95 f150 doesn't work properly and my 2005 elantras climate control lighting doesn't work, these are just minor issues that I can deal with and still drive the vehicle. On these newer cars its a different story, cause when some of those fancy new features fail, the car is not drivable.
They're designed to
Remember the good old days when you could take your gate off without getting a freaking error message 🤣
and that tail gates could take a beating and not get dented.
I reccomend a spray in liner to anyone in at least the northern states, every truck I've ever owned or seen with a plastic bed liner has had the floor and cross members rot right out of it. Alot sooner than with a spray in liner
Most trucks are aluminum beds now.
I don't think aluminum has that problem.
@@Just-Steve aluminum might not "rust" but it is still prone to corrosion. Plastic bedliners will trap moisture and road salt under them. With the prices of newer trucks these days, I damn sure wouldn't be taking the chance on it
@@jakemartin6039 I have a 2016 GMC with an aluminum body and plastic bed liner, exposed metal on the body of a now 6 year old truck is still bright. Because the thin, hard layer of oxidation on aluminum actually protects the underlying metal. The engineered failures of your "today car" will get you before your choice over a bed liner ever will, and way before aluminum will corrode.
I live in Virginia and used to install these things at Leonard's truck caps in my teenage years. I seen a truck that had a drop in plastic bed liner have it removed after roughly 15 years and the bed underneath was perfect
Honestly if you turn the vehicle off and unscrew the battery (let it sit for a while) you can probably unplug whatever you want without the computer knowing
This is true but even then this technology is so advanced that it might still notice somehow.
Good idea forsure but since it only happens when the gate is removed my guess is ford put the module inside the gate and it requires constant power, if it ever looses power such as being disconnected it's memory is dumped immediately, a camera should only be three wires so the truck shouldn't even know but God knows how they have all this stuff tied in to each other. This is why I won't buy a car 2015 or newer
In my opinion, do not get the plastic drop in bed liner, you build up moisture and dirt between the liner and the bed and it will cause corosion.
It's aluminum so I wouldn't worry about it...
My truck has a had a drop in for almost 32 years and has nothing but some light surface rust on the top of the bed side. Which I repainted. Bed floor is mint. They aren’t as bad as people make them out to be.
That’s insane. Just new on the 22’s?
If that’s the case then it should be spelled out that it’s essentially NOT an owner removable tailgate.
Wait. So simply unplugging the tailgate harness and plugging it back in will require recalibration of the camera? I take my tailgate off several times a year for various reasons. Starting to give me yet another reason not to upgrade trucks.
@@AKJeeper yep. Insane!! Talk about a step backwards.
Just figure out how to do it yourself
@@justanotheraviator2357 I’m more than capable to do it myself, I have my own shop and Ford IDS. The point is, you shouldn’t have to resort to doing that after doing something as simple and common as removing your tailgate.
...it is in our owners manual
It’s the same for any windshield with a camera but sadly if your car has issues recalibratating the camera doesn’t always works and can even make it worse
Why would unplugging the camera to remove the tailgate cause a calibration issue when you can put the tailgate up and down?
Read your owners manual please! I'm getting tired of you guys not reading the comments.....over n over....it's all right here below
Lol, and this is why I love my 23 year old Chevy.
I have a 95 chevy silverado no problems still going strong I will never buy a crappie Ford
Real good ghost boy
@@caspercook7337 you're comparing a 26 year old chevy to a brand new ford? The fact that you have a chevy has nothing to do with it operation well. Modern vehicles have so much un necessary electronics in them that no one needs. Trust me a brand new chevy is just as bad as a new ford.
@@caspercook7337 I have an 89 ford that would drag that shit box Chevy.
I’ll stick with my old 98 as long as possible, I have no interest in all these bells and whistles, my tailgate does what it was intended, I don’t need to be pampered.
My dad still has his 97 f150 it has 600k miles and still running strong
Mine is a 98 also and it’s green what color is yours?
After I wrecked my 2008 f150 I bought 79 f250 and never looked back. Screw this new garbage they try to pass off as a truck.
Drive a 97 f350 all over the Midwest for work. Can fix it on the side of road with basic hand tools!!!
I have a 92 f-150 and I will keep it as long as possible
Which is why I’ll stick to my 96 f350. Aftermarket back up camera that can be replaced for $12 off ebay and the only calibration it needs is me to install it leveled 😂
Your loss then. Can just disconnect the battery on the new truck and will have no issues.
@@BlueOvals24 Not really my loss bud...i like older trucks anyways.
@@firstnamelastname7275 No it's a loss. When my F150 makes more power than your dying, decrepit, old 96.
@@BlueOvals24 You care about power…I do not. I care about being able to put 3 pallets of flooring in my bed and not having an issue. And my f350 isn’t dying or decrepit. It’s a purpose built truck, and it’s served it’s purpose beautifully for me.
@@firstnamelastname7275 Well I'll be flying past you on the freeway then with 3 pallets and still get better mpg. It really is an embarrassment how a new F150 can do what an old F350 can do and do it even better.
Mine was removed and reinstalled at our Linex dealer. They forgot to reattach it. I reattached it myself and it worked without issues.
It is just so bad on these new/newer vehicals. So many systems that require reprogramming or recalibration after repairs or part replacements.🤯
That's what makes a $200 Toyota Corolla windshield replacement cost $800 after a $600 recalibration bill
Dang. That’s no bueno! Thanks for the heads up Arod!
I had after market spray in liner, did not remove tail gate. But did remove the panel inside the tail gate to allow service to the camera and other guts to tailgate components. 2021 fl50
This is totally understandable. Why would anyone think there wouldn't be an issue? Ppl love locking tail gates / rear view cameras + 360 degree cameras in most F150s ..like me. 👍 Can't beat Ford trucks.
Damn, not as bad as the 184K F150's recalled because of potential drive shaft cracking, but still a PIA.
My moms 2020 explorer transmission went out… the new 10 speed failed on her we have only had it a year and a half. Come to find out around 68-70k we’re recalled and we happed to have one of those.
Yea not the same Trans in the trucks
apsolutly correct. i am a ford tech. and we get guys all day long with this problem. no a big deal tho just go to your local ford dealer and the process takes about 30min to reinitialize the camera. if it’s a 360° camera it will take about an hour.
Thank u sir
@@christophercrawford2736 if your removing and installing your tailgate often, then i’d suggest relocating the camera to the bumper. yes you’ll have to extend the harness, then again no big deal or you should have bought the appropriate vehicle for the task at hand
Just got blocked! Cya
@@bmint unfortunately not. it’s a ford dealership software only. if you just know your tailgate is coming on and off this much, honestly just extend the camera harness relocate camera to license plate area and problem solved. only my personal opinion im sure others have there own opinions
Love my 2013 Tacoma, 207K miles, no major issues, not a drop of oil burnt. And my composite bed liner...awesome.
Take the battery cables off. Then remove the tailgate, don't put the battery back in until the tailgate is back on
That will not work.
@@jayh9635 false. We do it all the time.
It might still show the camera and no error messages if you do it that way!? But I can guarantee that the camera is off!
I have worked with the Ford engineering team on this and it always has to be calibrated with the mats afterwards to be 100% accurate.
To each their own with how they do things but just be aware that If you are not calibrating these cameras you are liable for any damages done by the operator of the vehicle! It's shitty I know but the way manufacturers word everything with lawyers needs to be taken seriously.
Finally, thank u sir
@@jayh9635 false. Think about what you are saying. There is no circuit loop involved. Period. The ecms all are disconnected from power. No data logging is occurring. Come on now..
Believe it or not it was cheaper to get an actual line-x spray in from the dealership than it was to go to line-x afterwards
Appreciate the info this really helps me in my body shop
That 360 calibration is no joke. Need massive mats and 40 feet x 60 feet of space to do it
Don't think the f150 has a 360 view. No cameras in the mirrors. Might be wrong tho
Yea wrong
You have to love it! I do A.D.A.S. calibrations for a living!
This is why I like my regular car with minimal electronics
It's hip to be square.
So i read on one of the online forums [i dont remember which] that as long as the key is far enough away from the truck that it no longer can connect even when you press the buttons you can remove the tailgate just fine. We tested this at the shop i work at and we havent had any issues with the camera needing to be recalibrated all year. [ Also just for added context at the shop i work at our office an spray booth are in seperate buildings, So if you have a much smaller shop this might not be a viable option. ]
Hey, thanks for the update & for comin thru & keepin it real. Have a good Sunday
I drive a 1989 F350, 1962 100, and 1953 F100.
This just solidifies my thinking, "Keep it old school".
EDIT: I bought my wife. A new 2020 Suabaru Forester. It's nice I suppose but, I hate it. It is too autonomous.
When I painted my bed liner in my truck I just masked off everything and left the camera set up how it was. I seen no reason to remove the tailgate
There will never be a time where I buy a new F150.
If you disconnect your battery before removing the tailgate wouldn’t it prevent that?
You mean that every time I remove my tailgate to do some towing or other task, I am going to have to take it back to the dealer to recalibrate the camera's?? That does not sound very user friendly. Is this only the 150's or does this apply to the Superdutys with the 360 cameras as well?
Anything with a rear camera bub
Gotta love all the technology everyone wants in there vehicles.
It has everything to do with a bed liner people are removing the tailgates to spray in the bed liner.....
@@highball7347 he's saying there is 2 ways of ordering bed liners. A drop in or a factory spray in.
If you have a spray in done after you take ownership (line x or bullet liner for example) or the dealership does it and they remove the tailgate the cameras will have to be programmed. Not real confusing.
Cya guy🙋♂️🙋♂️🙋♂️🙋♂️
I put in said spray in bed liners in at Linex of Richmond and NEVER once has this issue and I do from 5 to 8 liners per day. So whomever is doing this, is doing something wrong
The fact that this can be an issue is an indictment on the whole pickup truck industry
I just disconnected mine, removed the tailgate and put it back on. No problems.
I've stat d the same I take off talegates all day for part of my job we never have this issue not on 1500,2500,3500, ranger, canyon/Colorado, Toyota, Mitsubishi you name it we upfit it
Even the 4500-6500 series has a factory added garners specifically for upfitment
Thank u sir for sharing & keeping it real....
My 98 f150 doesnt seem to have this option of the dash alert for some reason. I'm not sure why. All joking aside; That is insane that this happens. All these bells and whistles make life easier. They also come with a cost.
The truck works fine without it which is all I really care about.
@@bigpatty823 Is this your truck? Nice truck if so.
Sprayed on liner is better than the drop in liner when you buy from the dealer if you can.
I'd like to hear why.
There are 3 options. The best option is to not get either of the 2 upgrade options. I work construction and abuse the F out of my bed. 7 years of hauling loaded pallets, boxes, A-Frames, etc. There’s almost no paint left on the floor of the bed. It’s aluminum. Plenty tough for respectful use. No, I don’t drop blocks into it like a Chevy commercial.
Bill brown Ford baby!!! I got my super duty there!
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Problems of rich people
Wow tailgate removal does that. I give it to the plastic bedliners though no bed dents with that plastic liner!
Tru dat
Hate the drop in. I have one on my truck and regret it
Being a gearhead, this just reaffirms my decision to own older model vehicles
Would you elaborate? What code? What error? Run a body shop and have had zero issues related to removal of tailgates on any 2021 2022 f150s
Does this happen if you disconnect the battery prior to removing the tailgate?
I don't have data to answer your question
I was scrolling through the comments wondering the same thing.
Being the wsm states to disconnect the battery first, it would be safe to assume you still would have to.
Gee, that sounds like more Ford Fun. My '21 GMC has the sophisticated all around camera system and the complicated tailgate with camera. My tailgate is removed and storred. I use an aftermarket tailgate that I installed a camera on. I also interchange two other cameras based on different equipment. Never a hint of problem. On or off , running or not. Unplug, re-plug, never a problem. However, if the camera is missing, the entire system goes blank, will not work. Digital electronic. All or nothing.
Yup. Happened to me. When I go for the first oil change I'm going to tell the dealer about the problem.
Yeah I unplugged my mirrors and need a blind spot recal, yay!
Not all new f-150s have 360 camera view some have just back up cameras and only need a rear camera reconfigure. And a 360 camera calibration is not needed unless cameras are being replaced or sensors are being replaced
Remember when people knew how to drive, knew where their wheels were and knew how big their vehicle was.... mass pussification underway. If you need cameras, lane departure shit, parking assist, etc... YOU CANT DRIVE. RIDE SHOTTY. Driving is a PRIVILEGE, not a Right..... like Spandex.
Well said 💯
I was just down in Livonia a couple weeks ago, thought about stopping to shop for a new truck but didn't. Had no clue it was your shop lol
Come back thru & check us out. I have a no BS salesman that I refer everyone too, IF ya still interested 🙋♂️
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod will do! I'll be back down in another month or 2, I'll be sure to stop through. Those trucks sell themselves anyways 😉
C u then🤙
I'm happy with my 30 and 40 year old f-150's with no bells and whistles
Yet another reason why I will never own a new truck easy tailgate removal and installation is a must for me
Just disconnect the"battery" and is "no" warning ⚠️ light....and everything is 💯 safe 📸📸📸📸.
Damn, didnt know this was a thing. Ive a '21 F350 and i guess ill avoid removing the tailgate for sure ! 😳
didn't cause a problem on my 2017 F250 but might be something on the newer years
What if you disconnect the battery first? Then the computer will have no idea the camera has been disconnected and re-connected. Unless you put in a different cam.
I know on my subaru that if you disconnect the battery then the side windows need to be reprogrammed 🤷🏽♂️
@@MrSleepProductionsInc well that’s kinda dumb. So once every 3 years you gotta reprogram your windows? Or do you just mean rolling them up and down a few times so they can memorize the all the way up and all the way down positions? I don’t call that reprogramming ;)
@@CartoonWeasel that's normal, I had to do the same when replacing my battery, as it took me a while to scrub out the battery tray.
@@CartoonWeasel
My trucks have been pulling Subarus out of ditches and mud puddles for years
Why don’t these truck manufactures make a line of trucks that is purely mechanical instead of electronic and call it a “vintage line” or something like that? I’m tired of all these electronic bells and whistles. Just let me purchase a truck that runs as simple as my old craftsman lawnmower and I will be happy.
Better get born again 30 yrs ago......🤷♂️
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod haha that’s right lol
I agree 100% and some companies allow for really base model car(no a/c, power windows, power locks,etc) but some things are legally required like a backup camera
It is still possible to buy a new Super Duty with manual locks and windows, only having the features mandated by the gov like backup camera. Still costs over $60k tho.
Backup cameras are actually legally mandated in the US which is kind of annoying
How about disconnecting the negative battery cable, remove the tailgate, spray the liner, reinstall the tailgate, then reconnect the battery cable.
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Such a hassle when it could have been all avoided in the first place
Hi,with all the technology Ford can do automatic recalibration of many components like this one...if they want it...blessings.
Wow. Didn't know that was a problem!
Si
Good job Ford make it harder for the everyday working man
the shop we use doesn't take the tailgates off
Yeah I spray bedliner at a ford dealership, and we never have had this problem at all. I put the tailgates back on and plug the camera in, it works, no reprogramming, it wouldn’t just stop working after that and suddenly require a reprogram after working so this is just false, at least for 2022-23 Ford Mavericks, rangers, F-150’s, F-250’s, and Chevy 1500’s.
....yeah.....i wldnt waste ur time making a BS video. Read the bio cheeeftian
I had Linex done and he took care of this so it was not a problem.
What about with a flatbed? Like if you put a flatbed on an f-250 or f-350 with a camera do you have to use the factory camera or what?
There's a Ford camera for that
You can use factory FDRS software to turn that camera off!
I'm wondering to avoid a camera reset just remove the battery, would that work?
In the Ford body shop I work in I haven't had this issue happen on the last 10-15 trucks I've had the tailgates off of. I wonder what the error that comes up is. Wonder if it's been patched on some of the vehicles?
Good question
So every time tou take off your tailgate so the fork lift doesn't hit it you need to re program the camera?how does it know you took it off?
This is why i own a 1993 F-150 302
What’s the difference for spray or drop in? I know one is sprayed but is it thinner?
My king ranch 250 came with the sprayed in liner from the factory.
I do emergency vehicle upfitting and take the tailgate off on every F-150 I do. Never had any issues with the camera or MIL/CEL's. If you don't plug it in, you'll have a problem.
Just letting u guys know what happened to me
Have done hundreds of fords..I’ve never had this issue. Have always made sure it works(plugged in) before it leave the shop..🤷♂️
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I thought you were gonna say make sure they prep the bed before they sprayed, seen a video where they literally pilled a whole entire piece off ! The dealership is not prepping in the bed therefore the liner is not sticking!!!!
Great info. What do you charge to reconfigure the 360 and where are you?
I have a video showing you all the procedure. I sometimes can take an hr, depending on how finicky the system is going to be
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Please tell me how to find that video. My camera is definitely off as is my collision avoidance, etc. I did the spray in bed liner and also upped my tire diameter.
It is my video catalog. It's titled 360 camera
I take these tailgates off everyday on 2022 model ford's, never had an issue. Does it happen awhile after driving?
Would this still happen if you disconnect the batteries and then remove the tail gate?
I didn't understand why that would matter until you mentioned needing to calibrate the 360 view. I'm not cool enough to have one of those
Nice job good info.😎
My 2016 does not have this issue. They took mine off at Line X and no issues.
Dinosaur compared to these new ones
This is why people should just fix their older vehicles and keep driving them. There's too many features and sensors and computers and not a single one is needed. Maybe heated seats but that's about it.
How long is the cable? Is there any play after loosing the fasteners? Can you unbolt the tailgate and swing it away and put on stands while the bed is sprayed?
Umm no
What does disconnecting the camera have to do with what bed liner you have? Looks like the drop in will need to be recalibrated as well???
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I’ve got a 22 platinum f150 that I sprayed myself through the shop I own and I’ve done probably roughly 200 trucks this year alone and haven’t had this issue and or a customer whose came back with an issue at all especially with camera issues 😂 unless the guy really messed with taking the plugs apart
Unplug your battery. Before you remove the tailgate.
Here's a nugget of advice, if you have a Mopar vehicle with a uconnect speaker don't update it it'll brick your radio
My f-150 is as old as I am and I like it that way
Would it help if you disconnected the battery? It sounds like it would work
That’s a hassle! I know when you unplug the Tundras camera to take the tailgate off, nothing happens. Just plug it back in and you’re good to go. Maybe it’s because of the 360 camera?
Trucks are meant for work I remove my tailgate at least 5 times a year for loading pallets with a forklift. This is stupid but then I guess most folks don’t work with their truck anymore. Guess I’ll keep my 2003 f150
So if you disconnect the battery first (although a pain in the @$$) does it still require recalibration? So long as the tailgate is put back on before the battery is reconnected. Also out of warranty how much does the calibration cost by ford
The fact that you have an entire channel dedicated to the issues that Fords encounter makes me hesitant to buy one.
Real good
wait... so if i put a gooseneck ball in the bed and have to remove the tail gate because i dont normally have mine in anyways. the camera will have to be reprogrammed everytime?... ill just go to walmart buy a camera and the screen and put in myself and prolly save a few hundred bucks.
Ford needs to figure out something else for that, because that’s ridiculous to have to make an appointment if the tailgate is removed
Cameras by design do not need "configuration". Cameras are Plug n play. If this is the case, Ford went out of the way to force a reconfiguration requirement after disconnection. Meaning ford is just reaching for extra cash from the unsuspecting consumer.
I don't think so Tim
It’s because of all of the thefts. Makes resale pain in the ass. Won’t stop it but you can thank all the thieves for all of these issues with buying property.
Back up till it sounds expensive!
This is why you disconnect the battery first
So you don't trip codes
DUR!
That is very helpful
Who would have thought adding a shit ton of stupid electronics to a truck was a bad idea?
Ford is playing you all!
Does the spray on bed liner mess with the heated bumper package? I mean I wouldn't want your buddy's hands to get cold when he is pushing you in the winter.
Yea I'm sorry it does
I worked for roushe automotive in michigan on these f 150s and they are trash. 50 miles put on trucks just in 1 parking lot…porters crash them and seats and ccms are not put in properly and they pass them through to customers who only get a discount on the massive parking lot mileage. Crashes and anything else is left to the customers to find out. I used to love fords but 70-115 gs for a p.o.s. Is insane. Also dozens of key fabs get stolen often which means all of these trucks are open season for anyone who has the stolen/default key fabs.
Roush ehhh, ha good luck with that nonsense........