Hands-On: IWC Pilot's Watch Automatic Spitfire vs Mark XVIII
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I spent about half a day at the IWC boutique on Bond Street in London and they let me get hands-on with a whole load of their watches: Pilots, GMT, Perpetual Calendar. The one that stood out the most was from their Spitfire range, the IWC Pilot's Watch Automatic Spitfire. It's a great too watch in a true sense of the definition. It also has an in-house movement separating it from the normal IWC Mark XVIII that IWC offer in its pilot watch line up.
IWC Pilot's Watch Automatic Spitfire
Specs:
CASE Dimensions:
Stainless steel case
Diameter 39.0 mm
Height 10.8 mm
Screw in crown
Water resistance 6 bar
MOVEMENT:
32110 Calibre
IWC-manufactured movement
Automatic, self-winding
72 hours Power Reserve
Frequency 28800.0 vph (4.0 hz)
164 Components
21 Jewels
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VERY INTERESTING VIDEO. CONGRATULATIONS. I LIKE WATCHES.
Just got this watch. It Looks so good on the wrist, I wear it everyday minus Tuesdays when I wear my speedy 3861. The crystal, the strap, the casing are all superb! A beautiful timepiece!
Spot on hit my deciding factors! I picked one of these up yesterday, it was between the Mark Heritage and the Spitfire. The in-house movement, size and overall look were the deciding factors for me.
I’ve had this watch for almost a year and it’s lived up to its hype. It’s a great versatile everyday wear that’s easy to dress up or down. I do agree that the retail price of this piece is a tad high. However, IWC boutiques (NOT ADs) will make you the best deals on them. I got mine for $4,000 USD while also getting a free IWC leather strap ($200 value). Highly recommend it!
Ar coating on the outer ?
Typically I've heard that the boutiques never discount watches?
Had mine for just shy of a year and it’s fantastic. Grows on you the more you wear it 👌
I own this watch for 4 month now. Splendid time piece, extremely precise (around -1 second per day). I’m fan of it’s look, readability! Can’t understand people who compare it to Hamilton! IWC watches are very well finished, you can see that every detail of the watch is nicely worked! Good job IWC, I don’t regret my purchase
I don’t understand people comparing it to a Hamilton either. It’s like people comparing a Seiko SKX to a Submariner.
Likewise, i have mine since last Nov.... feels like an occasion every time i wear it.
Muhammad Bulbulia totally agree
I've got the Mark XVI. People usually compare it to either a Stowa or Sinn 556. They are way off. People need to see the IWC in person.
I think people compare it to the Hamilton because they look similar, have silicon parts and after all they are both watches! Watch snobs do not like the comparison because of the price difference. Snobs like expensive stuff as it makes them feel special.
Thanks for reviewing. I tried this on two weeks ago and I am completely smitten. I have a family connection to spitfires and this feels like the one for me. 😍
An update… bought it a few days ago. Still smitten.
I fell in love with the Mark XVIII accidentally. I went to IWC just to browse the new releases and saw the Mark XVIII in the case and fell in love with the Le petit prince blue dial version. I went back a couple days later and tried it on again and walked out with it. It’s my most worn watch
Same thing happened to me and now I love my LPP! The blue is so beautiful.
05reddragon05 I did exactly the same thing
Same thing for me, except for the white/silver version!
Thanks Adrian. Spitfire is a great watch, though when you compare it to other options in the price range (either new or pre-owned), it unfortunately tends to get moved down in the queue. 👍⌚
I saw the thumbnail and fell instantly in love with the IWC
I saw this in Schiphol airport a simple design yet stunningly perfect !
Thank you for continuing to make entertaining and informative videos during trying times. I love my IWC Mark XVIII Edition “Le Petit Prince”, which I selected over the Spitfire. A beautifully finished timepiece that gives me joy every time I wear it. It’s also the most accurate mechanical watch that I own, gaining just a fraction of a second per day. Best wishes to all fellow enthusiasts.
Walked in the ADs today to look at a Tudor for my wife, I accidentally slipped, fell and bought this exact model, that 39 mm case was what the Mark xvii needed, plus as you said, this even looks better, the fact that my family’s friend was involved in designing the original spitfire planes was the clincher for me.
Blah blah blah
I love the watch. I think it is beautiful in its simplicity and with the new movement I can understand the price better than IWC's previous offerings in this price bracket. For me, this is an alternative the explorer for example. So while it may feel a bit simplistic and sober for the price, I'd argue that is kind of the point.
Great review, Adrian! I have to disagree on the date window... if you look at the position of the white date window versus the white numerals and look at the dial overall, I feel like the white date window gives a more balanced look to the dial than a black one would. In my mind, the alternatives for best looks here would be the white date window (which I love having a date on my watches) or to have the white "3" numeral there. I don't think the black date window would work as well.
Love the Spitfire! It’s on my radar.
Ive owned the IWC spitfire for a week its amazing im very happy with it worth every dollar i spent.
I’d prefer a no date version. I still think it’s too expensive even with an in house movement. A BB58 is nearly half the price, and delivers all the vintage goodness. You’re gonna have to really want a pilot/field watch to shell out on this.
for moment it is the best pilot/field watch. don't compare with stowa or other crap. this is watch for "one watch collection".
I agree and look forward to a cheaper alternative based on this watch but without the date. Hurry up Parnis.
“In house” movement at that.
Great assessment...
Fortis @ 1/5 the price
Adrian loves a curvaceous number
That date window is a dealbreaker for me. I would definitely buy one if they just put a simple 3 on there.
Although I like some of their designs, if I want a flieger I'm getting a Laco, where I won't feel like I'm being ripped off.
Or a Stowa
IWC have a genuine history. If you don’t care about engineering or heritage buy an invicter
@@bombazine2 do your research, both Laco and Stowa made the original Luftwaffe Nav-Uhr (A/ B) during WWII. They're both currently making watches which follow closely the design aesthetic from the era (albeit not in 55mm case size - too big).
Anthony Shillingford so did IWC and Lange
@@bombazine2 Not the point: IWC is overpriced and doesn't have more history than Laco or Stowa, so your argument about buying an "invicter" (lol) just fell in the water.
this design is very simple, and the nylon strap is also suitable for outdoor wear,amazing
I have had one for about one month now. Mine is bronze with a green dial. I am tired of black dials although I admit that they are very legible. It can be hard to see the thin gold seconds hand. The accuracy is excellent - better than my much more expensive JLC. I like it.
The bracelet on the XVIII may be the best on the market for a mass produced piece. This alone puts it over the Spitfire.
Their use of a 2892-A2 isn't a problem either. Their 30110 caliber is a kit from ETA and is heavily modified by IWC. It is not a refinished ETA movement. Adrian got this completely wrong.
It is built from the ground up by IWC. Calling the IWC 30110 a refinished ETA movement is like calling a Lexus a Toyota. The in house movement by IWC for the spitfire is almost the same as the 30110 in design and function. Major difference is the power reserve and anti-magnetic properties. ETA killed their deal so IWC is making their own version of the 30110 without ETAs blessing.
IWC-30110:
The caliber used in the Aquatimer and XViii is the IWC-30110, introduced in 2003 to replace the IWC-37524. There is a selitta version but I don't have much knowledge on this so I would steer away from it. The IWC-30110 is an extensively reworked ETA2892A2 caliber with 28800vph, 42-hour power reserve and automatic winding. The ETA2892A2 derives from the 18000vph 28mm ETA2890 movement, and is reduced in diameter to fit into smaller cases. The 9mm-balancewheel is supported by a cock and has an “Etachron”-fineadjustment. The ETA2892-A2 is 25.6mm in diameter and 3.6mm high.
This caliber is delivered to IWC in parts in its finest grade (chronometer-grade) that ETA delivers. Then IWC improves the caliber with new/better parts, and Nickel-plates and decorates it. The 'standard' ETA2892A2 has 21 jewels, IWC adds 2 jewels (mainspring-barrel), amongst other improvements like replacing the date-mechanism and reducing the diameter of the ball bearing of the rotor to increase winding efficiency. These improvements made by IWC throughout the complete movement makes the movement run so efficiently that the mainspring has to be replaced by a less stronger one.
IWC does the assembling and regulation completely in-house. When the watch leaves the factory, it is tested for 21 days and runs within +0...+7 sec/24H, which is a tighter tolerance than used by COSC. That movement in the spitfire the 32110 will most likely not perform better as it is based on the 30110. The technical details are almost the same as is its caliber number. Call it what you will, the 30110 is one of the highest performing movements on the market today.
I had an option to pick a Tudor Black bay 58( Black) or an IWC Spitfire on Nato..... I came home with the IWC Spitfire. As much as I love the Black Bay 58, I didn't want to get another diver watch and pay full retail. I always wanted to add a good Pilot watch to my collection and this is it, specially when I got a 18% discount from an AD, it was an easy choice.
At the moment this is exactly my dilemma. BB58 Blue or IWC Spitfire. I have been leaning to the Spitfire because I already have divers and the Pilot is something different. Though I question the value, and I question the brand equity for such a piece. No rush though, but buying watches is so hard! 1st world problem of course
IWC is a brand that photos often don't do them justice, but holding and studying on I you're hands you will quickly se the difference from more similar watches...
They are simply nice watches to wear & own, you do find yourself looking at it from time to time and admiring the design, functionality & build quality I think I would have to spend a lot more on a watch to get the same satisfaction, it's nice to be the first owner but buy used and you get excellent value for money. The flagship store in Bomd St. London is worth a mention the people there are friendly, helpful, professional and present a positive brand image.
I wish the specifications of this spitfire trickles down to future mark series watches. It’d be perfect.
Was hoping you'd mention the long lugs. The nato strap hides it but I do think they're longer than they need to be. The size is better, yes, but the extended lug length negates the more compact case size.
Hmmm, I don't see a 4k watch there. Sorry etc.
No need to apologise, it’s all opinion. Thanks for watching. 👍🏻
sometimes less is more. that why.
@@likeris2 I actually really like that comment, well said.
you need a jewellers loop to see it, but how often are you going to stare at your watch through a jewellers loop. There are Hamilton's for 10th of the price that look pretty much look the same to the naked eye.
Not even remotely.
My favourite IWC second to the 3239 Ingenieur
I wish they could either release a blue version of this watch or put the in-house movement in the le Petit Prince
You should check the laureus version. It’s a ceramic case with a blue dial. Looks 👌🏽
I'm ok with the date window here. I think the white background helps balance the absence of a white numeral there. That said, I think if the watch was 37mm and the date window was a bit more lateral that would really make it perfect (for me)
I have the Spitfire MK VXI that a bought new heavily discounted in 2009 as I was aware of the fact that the movement was a reworked ETA. Two months after the warranty expired the watch stopped working, I wrote a letter IWC and they told me to send it to them, the watch was fixed / serviced for free. The watch is good but not the best time keeper in my watch box, to put it politely when compared to my other pieces.
I perhaps will not buy it today at the current price point, I just picked up a Tudor GMT for less than the current MKXVlll and it absolute demolishes my Spitfire in time keeping and I am sure it will trump Mark 16 reviewed here.. A nice brand to have when you don't want the negativity of a Rolex or its flamboyance. I love it's simplicity and elegance! Nice review B & J.
Adrian, I, one hundred percent agree with you! If you have a black dial, use a black date wheel. For some reason, the while date wheel bothers me, but the Spitfire does look good, even better if it had a black date wheel.
Completely agree on the date window. I wish this came without it.
Or placed at the 6 o'clock position!
This is my favorite IWC watch, it's beautiful....I'd love to own one. HATE the double dome sapphire though, why!? I'd swap that out for something different straight away.
Now's probably not the time to be dropping four grand on one though is it!? 😬
I can't justify that price for the amount of lume of it. I also dislike the date complication and strap. I'll keep my Stowa Flieger Classic for 1/4 of the cost.
Lovely lovely watch, but a bit pricey, Hamilton khaki field automatic 38mm is a lot cheaper and is a great watch
my thought exactly
Would love to see an update to this video where you compare the spitfire to the Mark XX. I’m debating between those two.
It's a beautiful watch but for the price I could get a Stowa Flieger and a Tudor BB58 and still have some change left for straps.
Good, no nonsense review (as usual). Reference the glass, pressure and poping out. The glass on my wife's Oris poped out on a plane. A little surprising and dissapointing but it obviously can happen. Keep the channel going!
A watch that looks like a watch but it wasn't, it was a priceless piece likes a portrait painting from a famous artist.
The date wheel is white to balance the the White font numerals. Nice 👍 vid.
100%. It works with this one in my opinion, the date is more or less in line with the other numerals (unlike the 40mm Mark 18). Thought I was the only one to "see" this, lol
Saw these in a boutique and finish is grade A!
I didn’t pay much attention to IWC until watching your video. I’m now completely smitten by the Spitfire. Would love to own one someday.
Some sources say that 32110 is once again not a fully in-house movement, but rather a 2892 architecture built by IWC to their specifications
That’s what I’ve read too, but I couldn’t find enough info to be confident about that point.
I hear it is developed by IWC mother company and it has been used by Cartier.
I think I would wait for Mark XVIIII with in house movement.
I notice the minute hand jumped on yours when pulling out the crown, as on mine which also jumped when pushing the crown in thus making it a chore to set the time accurately. IWC told me that this is normal but at this price I wouldn't expect it to be.
Watch is fabulous and l like it very much. Fantastic professional presentation. Unfortunately l cannot effort it.
“Something off with the date window” it’s because they use smaller diameter date wheel hence the date window isn’t in line with the hour index axis. This mistake happens frequently with other brands as well
This does not make any sense to me. What is the hour index axis other than the centre of the dial? And how can something that turns around it line up with that? Or not?
Bob Martens I wish I can explain it here with a picture. I try to make it simpler, the date window should be positioned outward closer to the bezel so it aligned to the absent 3 o’clock marker. I hope you can visualize it.
@@pechadeh I understand, I think. Do you mean it's too close to the center?
Bob Martens yes
Think you summed it up perfectly Adrian though I still feel it's £500 more expensive for what it is at least.
Hello Adrian! If the Spitfire had the overall appearance of the Mark XVIII (black date window, no patina) I'd buy it tomorrow based on the in-house movement and the sexy red Spitfire on the dial and engraved back. There was a question as to the association to the Spitfire and IWC, saw an in-depth review stating that IWC (and JLC) were contracted by the RAF to supply them with watches based on their specifications. The result is two almost identical watches from two different manufacturers aside from the IWC vs. JLC logos. Would love to see a side by side comparison of the vintage pieces...then compare movements. Thanks for the brief review. I am going to get an IWC...still not sure if Mark XV, XVI or XVIII. Almost 7.5 inch wrist here so I can carry off the XVIII. Looking for that tooly/aviator watch...IWC would be a step up from the Oris and Sinn pieces I have been considering, but worth it imho. Cheers!
Agree with the IWC JLC review from WWII
I do won’t why so many watches have date complications myself, I love my OP39 exactly because I don’t have to worry about setting date every time I put it on
Nice looking watch and interesting package on paper. But from the previous comments I get the vibe that IWC have now definitely hit the end of the road in terms of price gauging (TBH - they probably already did this a while ago, when you consider their grey market and used prices)...
It's a beautiful watch, it's very simple and yet complex at the same time. I like that there isn't a rotating bezel.
Great video! However, I'm in the camp that would almost always rather pay less for an ETA movement. Why are you so keen to pay the extra money for in-house, when they're almost always a copy of an ETA (in this case, the Cal 32110 is a ETA 2892 copy).
Agreed 100% also how a brand new inhouse movement can be already better than ETA....
I keep telling people this - this movement is not in-house by IWC. It's made by Valfleurier (a movement manufacturer of Richemont). These are movements that will be used in other brands in the Richemont group in the future.
Glad you mentioned the date wheel issue - cannot unsee which saves me some money. I love the IWC aesthetic and would look to buy one in an airport to save on the VAT. Date wheel needs to be inverted to make sense here I think!
I wish IWC would release a black date wheel, single AR coating, and a little bit shorter lugs.
Understand the discussed price issue because of the off the shelf movements. But some of top high horology brands have done the same in the past and did a their job on these movements. The price is then obviously defined by the watch (case) making and not just the movement making. I own the portofino chronograph that has the valjoux 7750....and I must say that the finishing of the watch is excellent. Think IWC trumps with their finishing and their dials etc. At the end of the day... Obviously the inhouse 72PR movement for the same or similar money is even better. You could say now it's a bargain or a lot of bang für your buck like grand seiko. Before it was an upper end adequate price. Love the vids! Keep em coming... Respect!
Stunning piece you got there my friend, you get my attention 👍🏼👍🏼great price point, for this magnificent piece, Congrats on this beauty...
@Nigel Molesworth well my friend if you have money this is not issue great piece to have...
When is the follow up video coming?
Thanks for the vid, Adrian. Will have to disagree about the date wheel colour though - I think it adds balance to to the dial (black might throw it off a bit). Now fussed if the lume was white or aged - it all depends on the design really - but it should be one or the other - looks quite odd. I’ve always thought the Pilot 36 was an underappreciated offering from IWC - equally at home as a dress or sporty type watch. Keep up the great content, hope you and your family stay safe
I think it is interesting that most are making a point about the price. All luxury watches are overpriced, but IWC clearly have not been able to convince consumers that their watches are worth it.
Time and Talk There’s certainly some mob mentality going on. Lots of mentions of Hamilton being as good for 10% of the price, for example, which is too absurd for so many to individually and genuinely believe is true. I think there are a lot of uninformed people repeating criticisms they’ve read online - maybe to justify pieces they’ve settled for? It’s always interesting to see these triggers in the community. Another one I used to see constantly was anger over Christopher Ward updating their logo. So many people seemed so deeply offended, but the company reported record sales immediately following the updates.
Nolan Reed yes I agree. I mean I get it, any tool watch for that price is going to make you feel a little pain, but interesting you don’t get so many of the same comments about the Explorer or even the Railmaster.
If you like that design, IWC got a 41mm with certanium case -> IW326901 of course also with caliber 32110
I just found out yesterday, that there is a 36mm version of this watch. Very fitting. Maybe there is an IWC for me after all.
I like IWC, they are extraordinary watches, let's just hope that IWC returns to the Jeager LeCoultre calibers. ....
Thank you for another great video during these sad times (puts a smile on our faces). I was very lucky to pick up a IWC Spitfire Perpetual Calendar Bronze Limited to 250 world wide. I can not take if of my wrist it is such an amazing watch. I have put a crocodile camouflage strap on it and it has taken it to another level. I can not wait for you to do a video on the IWC Perpetual Calendar. Take care and be safe with your loved ones.
I've tried it on and I loved it in a lot of ways. However, it always seems like I prefer the idea of IWC to the reality. I wish they'd make their water resistance 100m as standard, like Rolex do. I'm a pilot and I do appreciate that these are designed for aviation, but I'd rather have a watch I don't have to worry about damaging with water (layovers in hotels with pools...).
You should verify this then...
A pilot 200m can chose date or no date.
wrwatches.com/products/san-martin-pilot-mark-18
Never seen a pool anywhere that is 60m deep.
The problem for IWC, and in particular this design / style of watch, is that there are real (thoroughbred) competitors WITH historic clout, making authentic and accurate versions of the flieger uhr for much lower prices - Laco for example. The other issue is brand name, over the last few years brands like IWC, Panerai, & Breitling just don't seem to have the same "chops" as they once did. Now brands like Sinn & Tudor feel like they belong in the same bracket, but with much more competitive pricing.
Nice short video. Why you are annoyed by date windows I truly don't get it, but makes me laugh when you complain about them. Cheers
Why, with a screw down crown, can IWC still only offer 60m WR? I understand it's a pilot watch, not a diver, but good water resistance is one thing all tool watches should have. Rolex oyster cases have always been at least 100m WR, this should be the same. I don't want to have to think twice about wearing a watch when water is involved.
If I’m looking for a watch with this aesthetic I’ll just snag a Hamilton. Cool watch, but I don’t understand the pricing.
karim Neji aesthetically, yes. Mechanically, no.
I might be a bit late but look at the steeldive's or the wrwatches' versions of them, they are great, and way cheaper.
The strap alone is more than a hundred dollars different from Hamilton. There are also many details, such as the leather travel watch box, first-class polishing and brushing, the surface with sapphire glass and anti-reflective coating, and the carefully polished movement, 8 years warranty. If you pick up both, you must like IWC.
You're paying for the brand name. Khaki field is definitely a better buy.
i'll too go with the HAMILTON khaki field manual👍👍
Sexy watch, but wow that price is a bit of a stunner. I kinda feel like a Stowa Flieger Classic for 1/5th the price might do the trick? Thanks for the content keeping us entertained Adrian!
Michael Fierman until you compare them side by side.
Sensei Bo have you compared them side by side?
Michael Fierman yes, both lovely watches but the finishing on the IWC is way better, wether it is worth the extra money is up to the individual .
There will always be something cheaper than the luxury option. Kind of pointless to be pointing that out
@@rousseau327 I'm a big fan of #pointlessreach
I have the bronze version and it is spectacular. It hasn't left my wrist since I received it about a month ago and the patina is coming along nicely, I can't wait to see how it ages. I do think the date window is a bit distracting as well, but I feel as if the white wheel with black numerals makes the missing '3' less notable (I would prefer it at 6 o'clock though). I picked mine up for $3,900 (it was one month used) and couldn't be more happy.
Wish it was available without the date. I only wear my watches sporadically and it's always a pain to have to set the date every time.
Great watch. Would expect Titanium case at that price.
Looking forward to the video on the big pilot perpetual calendar!
Hoping for a review of the Defy Classic Skeleton. That would be awesome :) ! Keep up the good work mate!
My god, the Defy is stunning.
Besides the color the font is another issue with the date number, having a cool font in the dial makes the standard font in the date pop even more
Everytime i see an IWC on youtube i like it. Everytime i see an IWC in the shop im kinda disappointment... it just doesnt seem worth the money... but yet i still want one
If you don’t have a watch that fills the flieger/field watch spot then get it. I have one in bronze and I enjoy it, but if you have invested money already into a watch that ticks that box then I say skip or possibly trade it if it truly speaks to you. The highlight of this watch is the movement, it is truly robust and accurate
There is an above average profit margin factored into some IWC timepieces, this being one. I have collected watches for nearly 20 years now and have never considered adding non vintage IWC to my collection. I have recently purchased a new Doxa 300t sub professional. A far better value purchase than the one above for example.
Not true in-house - Movement is made by Valfleurier (movement manufacturer for Richemont). Look forward to seeing these movements in MontBlanc watches and other brands in the future.
A great watch, really well priced and awesome looks. Add in the history and it’s definitely one for the shortlist
I would love this watch if you could switch between bracelet and NATO straps, like with the Omega Seamaster. That type of versatility is very much needed
Really wish they would put this in-house movement from the Spitfire into the Mk XVIII. I quite like the Mk. XVIII, but its pricey for the movement its sporting.
It's in house movement, but still ETA based right? So is it really in house? No matter how much they've improved it, it's still not in house. Great watch, just wish there was more transparency.
Yes! I love IWC :)))) if you can't get rolex explorer go and buy this one. its have the same cool factor. when I see on streets person with IWC I want to talk with him or her. its just got that silent drama. cool video. thanks!
Thanks for watching mate. And I agree, this is definitely a contender for the Explorer. 👍🏻
Kyle better made and better looking that a Hamilton. Similar quality to Rolex, granted a Rolex movement is more accurate and stronger, but this has a better power reserve. It’s all down to what you value in a watch.
The 39 and 40 versions have the misaligned date window which may be mitigated visually by a black date wheel on a black dial but it’s still there. It’s not corrected until you get down to 36. Even the in-house wasn’t resized to accommodate in the 39. I’d still take the 40 Petit Prince pretty sunburst blue on the gorgeous brown calfskin strap but the date wheel is white and the misalignment would bug me. Nice watches though. If the date isn’t an issue you can’t go far wrong.
Never quite understood the whole ‘glance at the watch and can tell the orientation’ thing to be honest.
As, so far at least, my wrist has never changed orientation and it’s fairly reasonable that anyone responsible for pre-flight checks would make sure his watch was on the right way up, it feels to me like seeking justification for design.
Having said that, I think it’s a nice watch, but a lot of money for what it is and that date wheel would grate on me, so agree - black date or no date would be better.
The white date wheel is for balancing the dial. I think having a black date wheel would disturb the balance of the dial. The only problem I see is 60m water resistance. I would require at least a 100m water resistance for my tool watch. This is definitely a show stopper for me.
I this the Spitfire is a winner!
Everything I like about this watch reminds me of the Explorer!
Love seeing IWC get some screen time. How you feel about your Explorer is how I feel about my Spitfire Double Chrono. It’s always Rolex or Omega, etc...always reminds me of Ford or Chevy...completely forgetting Dodge. That’s IWC...they’re not for the masses, but those that choose Probus Scaffusia, are fanatical and loyal. Great review!
I didn't know that iwc had created this particular in house movement. Nice. I like the placement of the date wheel. Slightly dissapointed that the screw crown yields less than 100 m water resistance.
this movement in the mark XVIII with steel bracelet (let's say for 5.7k€ retail) would be a killer - and my watch
Baume Et Mercier Clifton Baumatic used this movement first in their watches boasting 100hr power reserve and costs less than the IWC.
would be helpful if you mentioned the lug to lug :)
I just think when it comes down to it, every single IWC watch is just massively overpriced for what you get. The finishing is great and all, but their prices just seem more egregious compared to other companies
If it is not for the logo, it can easily pass for a $300 Hamilton.
That’s a very fair comment. I’ve positioned a discussion with a few people around the idea of “value” and what we want to get for our money.
@@BarkandJack Certainly more than time and date, but then again that red-lettering "spitfire" must be some expensive paint....
Exactly! Why are the big pilots more expensive than a Daytona, I'll never understand.
They are great value on the used market. Then you get the real price.
Love the dial! But the second hand looks a little bit choppy, perhaps because of the 4Hz mvmt? IWC states the 32110 calibre is 28800 vph though, why it is 4Hz then?
When will they provide new inhouse movement with sweep white second hand?