Customer states "WHY DID YOU BREAK 2 VALVE COVER BOLTS!?
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Hey guys, here is part 2 of the timing belt series. As you have seen in previous video that we busted a bolt in the head. First few attempts to get it out were unsuccessful. Today we bust out the drill with a few different sized bits to get that busted bolt out and tap that hole 😉😉. After that can of worms is closed, I decide to open yet another. Enjoy!
Been watching for a while but it really is genius to film the struggles. Struggles are real and its refreshing to not be the one dealing with it this time
Been there, done that, and greatly appreciate this man's efforts to make it right.
"Please don't break.." the prayer of everyone who has tapped anything.
I say that whenever I work on something, because Murphy was an optimist!
When tapping a hole go 1/2 turn in then 1/4 turn out until you get through to break off the burr. When you feel it get tight, back it off and you should feel the burr break off.
The whole time he’s praying please don’t break I was like it’s going to break because you’re not clearing the chip…
He rally doesn't have much idea! I learned that in metalwork class at school AGED 11!!
@@Biffo1262 he's a mechanic they don't teach tapping holes in mechanic school.
I don't think he was increasing to a new sized bolt. Just chasing the threads that were already there. It certainly doesn't hurt to back turn it. Break the tap off and now you've done it. I've done that. About 40 years ago and I still remember it. It was on the intake manifold for the upper radiator hose.
@@robertthomas5906 Thermostat housing on a 2.0 Chevy cavalier. I left it in the head and just put more great stuff and said a prayer… r it held for at least until it was someone else’s problem
everyones complaining about the improper use of taps and shit.
he was tapping a thru hole in aluminum no need to get mad , he was feeling what he was doing
i think everyone should focus on the fact that he went thru all the trouble to get those bolts in. 80 % of the guys on the job would throw the bolts in the bin, put 3 times the rtv he used and call it a day
great work man , i know the struggle and thank you for caring , and doing the job right
That’s why 80%are just shitty parts changers,not mechanis! lol 😂
I would not use a ratchet to turn a tap that I am concerned about breaking. It is too easy to create forces other than true axial rotation which add considerable forces that are likely to break the tap. That is why a tap handle has a handle going in both directions.
Satisfaction in repair is nice. Satisfaction in fixing something properly after things break is indescribable
I removed hundreds of broken bolts on locomotives in the past & used a t-handle for that, you can feel the bind much better than a ratchet, also if there is enough bolt sticking up weld a nut to it, the heat from welding makes them come out like butter, great vid my man
Stepping up your bit size when drilling those bolts = Very good. Failing to occasionally back up your tap to break off the cuttings = Goomba move. Good thing you pray well or something could have broke during your tapping operation. I was honestly expecting that corner flange to break off but you got lucky. Still enjoy your content and your mechanical skills are better than most.
I certainly hope his mechanical skills are better than most since he is a mechanic
Breaking a tap is the last thing you need!.
That was my biggest fear having that corner bust off.
Backing out to break chips isn't a big deal on through holes in aluminum. You could see the chips falling through.
As someone who was taught by top engineers and a Rolls Royce mechanic, who has worked on very old and rare vehicles, i would agree. Fortunately, i do not have his time and money constraints.
Satisfying seeing these things work out better than expected. Should charge the customer extra for the therapy sessions after this bullsht. Awesome work as always
Nope mechanic should not have broke off the goddamned bolt
I swear when the lift started going up next to this guy and I heard the first lock engage I thought he cracked the block 🤣🤣🤣
My wife hated the air drill...made her think of the dentist. A dentist always tells a woman to open wide.🤣👍
In spite of your light-hearted approach, you do very nice work.
Id never have the Bollocks to work on my own car but i Love watching professionals at work.👍
Awesome, salvaged the job getting the broken bolts handled!
Drilling broken bolts always have a pucker factor. Good to see the double win.👌
Lubricate tapping and reverse the tap every rotation. I have found that carefully tapping in a male Torx of the correct size for the drilled hole makes a great broken stud removal tool. Last success was on a hemi which are notorious for broken exhaust manifold studs. Wrong material and too small fastener is the cause. Well done, don't push it!
Love your work! I'm a wrencher from way back. Anything I put back together on the outside of the engine I went by feel. It's about experience. Internal workings is a different story. Never used a torque wrench on the outside of the engine
It's about feel! Keep up the Good work! Keepem coming!
Actually it is about correct Torque on Fasteners.
@Scotty secretly loves Chryslers That is high praise as I have worked in Petrochemical, Civil, and Mechanical projects as Inspector for several Decades. 90 Foot pounds is not that much. My wheel lugs go 140 ft. lbs. I had to check A325 fasteners with a geared Torque wrench with 4' handle to over 400 Ft. Lbs. There was also Pressure welding, Pulp and Paper industry , Rail cars etc etc. I stuck by the manual as I was checking others work. Once brought a crew of pipe fitters a pail full of nuts from so called torqued fasteners they had put together that I removed with just fingers. Experience is useless if you don't use it correctly. I love GMs.
'Please don't brake' - me following someone into a decent curve.
Generally simple method to remove a broken bolt from an aluminum head - weld a nut to it, the heat will generally break it free, the weld won't stick to the aluminum, you can generally pull the broken bolt out first time, run a thread chaser into the head after and you're good to go.
Awsome job. You're my new hero. Very good.
May I offer some hard experience. There is drilling oil and tapping oil. Also it is helpful to back off a tap in short turns. Good job though, if it works it works.
I haven't extracted hundreds of broken bolts, but those I have done I've noticed that about 25 to 30 percent of the time, if I use a left handed drill bit, it will grab and unscrew the broken piece out of the hole. Often the bolt breaks off due to rusting of the bolt weakening the shaft (giggidy) combined with resistance in the threads due to corrosion. Often some sets of screw extractors come with left handed drill bits. I can't tell on the vid if right hand twist or left hand twist bits are being used.
The left handed bits have saved my hide numerous times. Was going to suggest this as well.
@@JPA66 Same here. We were not suppose to have left handed drills in our tool boxes, and were required to go to the machine shop and sign them out. Go figure.
@@fritzfiedler1807 that’s why I always had my own set tucked away.
@@JPA66 Smart man!
You mean the tapered left handed extractors?
More comments than likes. Come on give him a thumbs up!
Truly satisfying work, getting those re-tapped and bolts back in (especially in that back head) is a beautiful thing! I'm sure the customer wasn't happy for whatever reason though.
Yep, I use a little bit of black or copper RTV on the heads before I install ANY valve cover gaskets. Never had a leak or dampening around a valve cover afterwards in over 20 years of DIYing! Also works on trans pan gaskets and oil pan gaskets that are meant to put on “dry”. The only ones I’ve never seen that needed it are the rubber coated metal type gaskets. They don’t deform or get squeezed out like the rest of them
Drillin' and tappin' holes.
Mega giggity!!
you most definitely earned the giggity on this job, excellent.
Retired now, used to hate those jobs. Set of Cobalt drill bits handy for those times.
I know a Toyota 3.3 when I see it. I don't remember how many I've done struggling before realizing I can lift that whole back harness out if I unplug the ps switch lol. I would use silicone in the valve cover channel to really hold the gasket in when setting it back down. Sucks to put the whole thing back together and gush oil on startup. Personally I wouldn't have done the job without the spark plug tube seals.
"Did we get it in?"
All together: "THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!!"
And the struggle to get it in is real, CSW. Always has been. No matter what the hole. (Giggity!)
I love how you explain what and why you do things the way you do them. I worked on heavy equipment for many years and I build muscle cars on the side I do all my own engines and rear ends and I have taught many young men and a few girls how to mechanic and build or repair their own cars and trucks. You sound a lot like me when I am teaching lol.
constantly cutting like that s an EASY way to break a tap... the best thing to do is to is every time it starts tightening up, back it off a quarter turn then start tapping again , if it starts getting stiff and it won't clear like that, then take it out clean it and the hole and go back in again.
if you do that the chances of breaking the tap go down a hell of a lot.
You crack me up with your comments! Thanks for making me laugh !
Good thing I don't work for Audi. I once snapped a tappet cover bolt on an old Chevy straight six. Being poor and woefully under-equipped at the time, I had no way to pull the broken screw. I rigged a wire over the cover, then made a wooden wedge to jam the cover it down. It lasted for more than a year until I finally pulled the cover again and fixed it properly.
@10:01 Thin and short threads holding a larger diameter threadless shoulder. No wonder these bolts like to break. They remind me of those thin spark plugs used in 3v Ford V8's.
Been watching since the 4-circles days and I now know what “fibbage” is!!!! Now I know what you meant about using it to hold a connector to an ignition coil plug I saw you mention in another video.
GIGGITY! 😎
If you don't have the ability to fix busted studs and bolts in mid-south UK, there is a very nice man called the 'Thread-Doctor', who specialises in converting disasters into triumphs. Charges a lot, but gets the job well done in a short time. It's a balance between wshop time and wallet-time; head-off or in-situ fix. He lives solely on broken threads.
LOL! Haven't a clue about part 3, but, when at the end you said "2 for 2!" I thought, "Sure hope he's not tempting fate!"
I live life dangerously
on the rear side some leaves came in. also you torqued the screws by the feel... soon more broken screws.
Just a quick fyi,
“Brake” is the brake in your car
“Break” is like braking glass
Love the vids! Love retapping holes!
Left hand drill bit sometimes helps….
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Was a late night editing
Break is like "breaking" glass.
Why do I get the feeling that's not the first time you've said "did it go in?"
I will say that a broken bolt on a potentially “old” valve cover is weird to because, oily?
That said I break bolts off or have rounded out hex sockets mostly because of “filthy animals!”
I’m no longer in the automotive business, in a production facility with lots of potential for broken stuff!
A thru hole is my favorite though!
Center punch. Pilot drill 1/8” or so then up to just under the tap drill size all the way through and chase gently with a sharp tap! A dull tap is looking for trouble!
Don’t forget a Heli-coil is pretty good repair too! Nicer than a nut and bolt.
Remember the machinist’s creed.
“Tapping is a snap”😂
Nice job. Again!!
a set of left handed drill bits is great for drilling out broken bolts. you either drill all the way through or it snags and is able brake the bolt loose and back it out
i have had enough of this. our presenter has many things to learn
You don't have to worry about taps breaking if you one use good taps if you too lubricate it while you're cutting and if you three do two turns forward one turn back two turns forward one turn back it's slower but you're less likely to Break the tap
I thought you'd use a bolt extractor yet time was probably a factor, so drilling & tapping a couple new holes was probably easiest & it worked.
I got to tell you...if you are going to have a bolt snap, that is the place for it to snap. Nice work!
Oops...just saw the rest of the video. Really nice work!
Best way to apply toyota sealant is to use a 1mm industrial syringe. It puts down a 2-3 mm bead and you can easily control the application so that it looks factory robot laid the bead. You can get the syringes for less than a dollar a pop.
Globbing on the sealant with a finger can end up with some dangling into the internals ultimately ending up in an oil passage.
The fun and games with a transverse V6. I had an I4 with worse access to the timing box and no hydraulic tappets. Broke my heart to do so but I only adjusted them when they sounded real rough!
"It is gonna ooze out on both sides" Might have been a giggity. :)
Done plenty of drilling broke bolts and tapping, feels good when it works!!!!!!🙂
What a great line, "If I can't TAP IT, I'll NUT and BOLT it" 🤣🤣
Good job.
Next time you are tapping you need to use more tapping fluid/lubricant.
I also recommend, and you will be blown away........ use liquid hand soap as your tapping fluid.
It is AMAZING and always available.
Today's episode was a full of GIGGITY material!! It could make a good stand up comedy! 🤣🤣
Very nice work. 👍.
How does someone break a valve cover bolt??? They are not required to be very tight. Just to hold down the cover and gasket.
Oh god when you showed that back one i felt your fear.
Absolute terror
Breaking off bolts in the hole. Yep, that's a painful giggity!
Please don’t break, please don’t break…… me working on anything
Tap is less likely to break if you dont just wind it in. Go a turn in and half turn out, repeat. Remove occasionally to clean threads.
Cool video. Love seeing mechanics get out jams. Very handy information. Just found your channel. It's pretty cool! Keep it up, please and thanks!
So far - so good!
I had - repeat-had a few left handed drill bits. They were great for removing broken bolts. They would bore in and get stuck, unscrewing the broken bolt. I don’t know where they came from- a second hand store “grab-bag” , garage sale or what. I wish I had separated them. Now they are lost with a hundred dull bits I’ve got in a jar.
Use left hand drills , as they sometimes bring it out whilst drilling, it is easy with battery drills that go each way.
You should look into the proper way to use a tap. My father was a machinist & we lived at the machine shop when I was a boy. My dad never prayed to keep taps from breaking, he backed them up every couple turns & then back in.
Ugh, I've had to do this on 3 valve 5.4 Fords. They eat timing chains, guides and cam phasers. And the exhaust manifolds are a real joy. And if the bolts aren't completely rotted off, they break. Good times
Man that was a tough job but you nailed it! Keep up the great content. 👍🏻
Use a good cutting oil especially on aluminum. also, half turn forward, quarter turn back, repeat until done.
When using a tap, you should NEVER use a ratchet driver on it, always use the T-Handle supplied with the Tap kit and turn it 2-3 revolutions, then turn it BACKWARDS for 1/4 turn to break the chips, reducing the chances of it clogging, binding, jamming and then breaking...
Using the T-Handle helps you keep the tap straight to the hole which also helps prevent broken taps followed by enough Swearing to horrify a Drunken Irish Sailor...
This Tip is brought to you by my High School Machine Shop Teacher that almost got Fired because of the afore mentioned Swear-a-Thon caused by breaking 3 taps in one afternoon...
I Learned a LOT that day, I don't know what all the words he said meant since 95% of them were in a Language only the School Principal knew (he was Northern Irish like the Shop Teacher), but even without knowing the meaning, EVERYONE knew they were very, Very, VERY FOUL words...
It was something in his tone of Voice...that and the expression on the Principals face when he walked in the room...
😄😁😆😅😂🤣
“Doin it by hand” - giggity!
"BY FEEL" that's great
I’m wondering how long that vehicle sat under the pine tree 🌲 with its hood open lol 😂
that drill sounds like Im at the dentist, great work drilling that cavity
Mad respect for doing the job no shortcuts.
Very nice work. 'The struggle is real!'
I love these videos
All I have to say is, impressive!”
I would have laughed so hard if the towel got caught in the drill.
I have learned when using taps instead of playing please don't break I find it best if you expierence a bind to stop, put it in reverse for a couple threads and go forward again. Just a helpful hint. Nothing sucks worse than trying to dig out a broken drill bit or a broken tap.
The first valve adjustment I did on my car I stripped two rocker arms and broke a valve cover bolt. Not fun
Can't really say you came out on top on that job, but at least you broke even and the car didn't win lol
Go buy a lotto ticket... that kind of luck deems it to be a banger for sure, Giggity!
Enjoyed 👍👍
People who hide there mistakes and struggles are not trustworthy. Good work 👍👍
friendly advice: $25 harbor freight 1/2" air drill. low speed, high torque. if you want a little more control, add a $2 cheater valve. i do bodywork(30+ years now) and drill out loads of spot welds so i know the importance of slow and steady when it comes to $25-30 drill bits. keep it oiled, run it slow and these cheap drills will run for many many years. (it's also a smaller usually lighter body than a corded or cordless drill and just makes it that much easier to control). i've used the snap ons and ingersolls and such and the price of those are not worth it!
11:00 You are giving my PTSD due to past dental appointments.
Torq spec who needs it when you have a calibrated forearm….
That's what I'm saying
Just a suggestion but use some wintergreen when drilling and tapping. It dissipates heat and prevents binding. You can get it at a drugstore. It smells good too.
Wintergreen?! What is this, Martha Stewart's Auto Repair?! 😁
I did this same job on my 5.3l vortec engine with 325k miles. Everything was great until I broke out the torque wench and snapped a bolt. Gutentight was good enough after that.
Yeah back one's going to be difficult I was wondering if you had any easy outs
Never seen an industry complain so much about doing their job and acting like everybody should have a deep understanding of every single system a car has.
did you get that leaf that was in the rear cylinder head? it was in there when you showed the broken bolt
I’ve never heard someone call FIPG,as fipig LOL
Noticed both you and Ray avoid ez-outs....
I have used reverse drill bits
Torquing by feel: too tight is broke. Happened to me many times 40+ years ago with Chevy valve cover bolts. Good Luck, Rick
With all due respect to CSW's massive set of skills, "torque by feel" is a guaranteed fail. ruclips.net/video/OiMPhJpaXTE/видео.html. But having done some work with no torque wrench myself, and no parts failed, loosened or fell off, the "tight enough" torque works on some things.
@@markh.6687 Actually, what I did was to choke up on the ratchet so I didn't get a lot of torque on the little bolts. With those old GM rocker covers, there wasn't enough bolts so the gaskets often leaked. If you tightened down the bolts too much the covers bent and then you had to take them off and straighten them. Glad that I retired.
I feel your pain, but as someone who worked on imports with aluminum everywhere, you do get a feel for what you can get away with.
I have done so many of these valve cover gaskets, the elbow KNOWS the torque rating by now.
@@customerstateswhat Warning: as you get over 40 and the carpal tunnel hurts more and more the calibration goes off. My brother had the CT operations but in ten years he was back to the same point. I just switched to different work. Good Luck, Rick
To be honest if you use a small drill bit you need a higher speed on the drill but you also need to make sure you use plenty of lubrication to prevent the drill bit from overheating. Unless my 4 years of working for Sperry gyroscope were BS. I don't think they were though
When using treader to minimize chanse of brake the tool is to go forwads 2 stroker backup 1.
I'm less than impressed with reusing all these gaskets and torquing by feel. Work on one Jeep and suddenly this is a pep boys.
I feel the same about not blowing off all the pine needles before removing the valve covers . .