If you play retro games: pro2 If you like to use the D-Pad for movement: pro2 If you play games that benefits from turbo: pro2 If you like the Playstation form factor: pro2 If you like button mapping flexibility: pro2 If you have multiple gaming platforms: pro2 If you need analogue triggers: pro2 If you want to spend less money: pro2 If you don’t want to get up to turn on your switch: Switch Pro Edit: if you want to use Amiibo functionality: Switch Pro If you like Xbox form factor: Switch Pro (this is a big one, obviously. It may override any and all advantages of the pro2)
If 8bitdo ever releases a controller in the shape of an xbox controller, with the offset analogs and all that, I would buy it in a flash! Basically an Xbox controller with 8bitdo's d-pad, face buttons, gyro/motion controls and compatibility with different systems would be the PERFECT controller for me. I've been using Xbox controllers for some time, but I can't stand the d-pad for movement and I don't really like how the face buttons are small and rounded, and 8bitdo literally fixes these two issues I have with it while still adding gyro/motion, customizations and all that.
Another advantage for the 8bitdo is you can activate turbo on the fly for any button using the left star button + whatever button. You'll know it's working because the flashing LED when you press a turbo button. Really cool feature that a lot of their controllers have.
That's because the PS1 controller is heavily based off the super Nintendo controller in the first place. Originally the PlayStation was going to be an add-on for the super Nintendo so obviously it would have used that controller.
Well i ll tell you Johan, i bought a 25 dollar sn30 pro usb controller for the switch. I decided to give it a try, and 8 months later it still works perfectly. I just won a smash ultimate tournament a dew days ago with that same controller, which is in my opinion one of the best controllers ive ever used. And as ive been gaming since before 80', i think that says it all. Its a damn well built, and designed controller that's good for any game. I love the d pad, the analog sticks, and those fantastic analog shoulder buttons. Think about giving it a try, you won't be disappointed
@Jerkfat I recently got a switch pro for testing and whilst I have some comparative gripes against the 8bitdo pro 2, I stand by my comment regarding the D-pad. The switch pro is actually a better controller in a few other ways, as far as using it for the switch. Not by a huge margin but the switch pro has superior feeling thumbsticks, triggers and gyro. So it really depends on what you're going to play mostly. But it's very off putting when spending money that a device is known for having issues
@@CandarianGaming I heard about the pro controller's dpad but I had hoped it would be just a minor thing and still decided to buy it. I could not be more disappointed. It was so bad that I had to return it. Fighting games are completely unplayable with this thing, same with 2d platformers. I refuse to pay more than what MS/Sony charges for their controllers and get a lower quality product. It is insane how this has been broken for so long and nintendo didn't fix it.
the x on the back refers to xinput mode which makes the controller appear as an xbox controller on your controller. steam specifically thinks the controller is an official xbox one controller when it is in xinput mode
It's more uncomfortable to reach the bottom part of the controller then the top part but I find the joysticks are easier to reach when they are below vs the dpad so i prefer playstation layout. Also wii uis the worst. However the GamePad is so big that it's fine there.
The switch pro controller is sold out everywhere where I'm located, and I'm not willing to pay extra on shipping and duties, so I have to go with 8bitdo.
my pro controller doesnt wake my switch anymore, it connects but the switch stays asleep, which is very very odd, so im used to just getting up to wake it up now so im defo going with the 8bitdo
Pro controller for me but cant go wrong with 8bitdo still great but my pro controller was 60bux brand new so it was a bit cheaper usually theyre 70 or so
I have both. Pro controller is my main controller for 3d games (which is most games), while 8bitdo is for 2d games with d-pad(sidescrolling games,fighting games,indie games,retro games etc). That way I have controller for second player as well but still have uses for both even when I play just by myself.
The greatest Flop on 8bitdo, both pro and pro2, is that input delay is too high. It's 14ms over USB. 33ms (!!!!) over bt. For reference, ds4 is only 1.5 ms over bt. This is caused by the very high polling rate that 8bitdo set by default. How can a controller be good updating only 30 times a second? Worse controller in the market...
vi que vc é brasileiro então vou perguntar em pt não to duvidando, mas onde você conseguiu essas informações? pq é justamente algo que eu tava procurando e não achei em lugar nenhum
@@vitoriamaya8184 Eu tenho o SN30 pro+. Comprei justamente por toda essa propaganda positiva que fazem dele além de querer algo mais universal para usar com o PC e com o Switch. Realmente a ergonomia dele é excelente e ele parecia perfeito. No final eu não consigo usar o controle pois adiciona muito no input lag geral do meu setup. Para ver o input delay vc precisa de algum programa que informe o polling rate do hardware conectado. O input delay é uma conta simples: 1000 (milisegundos) dividido pelo polling rate (que é dado em Hz). USB via cabo geralmente é 280 Hz que dá um input delay de cerca de 3,6 ms (o SN30 pro+ funciona em 67 Hz via USB e 30 Hz via bt). Um bom bt vai permitir conexões em 500 Hz (O DS4 faz conexão de 500 Hz via bt. É o mais rápido no mercado) e um excelente será estável em 1000 Hz. Porém essa solicitação é feita pelo hardware conectado. Uma atualização de firmware resolveria o problema nos controles da 8bitdo porém nunca fizeram mesmo comigo abrindo vários chamados ao suporte deles fornecendo provas do problema. O jeito mais fácil de ver o input delay desse controle no PC é conectando ele no modo switch e deixando que o DS4Win (o do github) tome conta dele. Dentro das configurações (onde mostra os acelerômetros) há um campo informando o input delay em tempo real. Ele é capaz de informar tanto via bt quanto via usb. De forma alternativa tem um programa que lê o polling rate de coisas conectadas via USB (acho que era mouse polling rate ou algum nome similar) além de um que é especifico para controles Xinput. Sobre o PRO2, um youtuber uma vez me respondeu esse dado nos comentários. O problema é presente na mesma intensidade.
@@tamodolo sim, no pc é complicado porque basicamente qualquer controle que não seja o do xbox tem delay, porque o do xbox é nativo, mas e no switch, o delay se mantém?
@@vitoriamaya8184 Na verdade o controle do Xbox é cerca de 7 ms de input delay. Todos os controles que mencionei são nativos no PC incluindo o DS4 que obedece a especificação Dinput por padrão. Os jogos de PC conseguem utilizar todos os recursos do DS4 se forem programados para isso já que essas funcionalidades estão expostas ao PC também. É por isso que o Steam consegue usar o DS4 e fazer os jogos entenderem ele. The Witcher 3 por exemplo vc pode usar o DS4 diretamente e até a lâmpada dele vai funcionar. Medir o input delay no Switch é mais complicado. Depende de homebrew e eu não sei se existe algum que faça isso. Como o polling rate é solicitado pelo hw que conecta, assume-se que no switch ele será o mesmo. O que de fato dá pra sentir é que o SN30 pro+ responde mais devagar que os joycons. Eu vi no changelog do mission control (um homebrew pra vc conectar qqr controle no switch) que eles diminuíram o polling rate padrão do DS4 de 1000 Hz (!!!!) para 125 Hz no fim de atingir paridade com o pro controller oficial. Dizem que isso estava degradando a velocidade do wifi. Esse controle do polling rate é possível definir e modificar se vc tiver o software adequado porém acaba sendo um tipo de overclock no hw conectado e isso per se pode causar outros problemas. Pensando agora, pode valer a pena tentar conectar o SN30 usando o mission control e ver se é possível mexer no polling rate. Mas é muito longe do ideal...
@@dantenage9687 are you just talking about loose sticks cuz that happens to all controllers and is normal wear and tear after using the controller for years.
I wouldn't jump to conclusions Kam, i got a usb sn30 pro that really got me into 8bitdo. I won a smash ultimate tournament using that same controller, i prefer it over nintendo's. That was a few days ago, with a smaller controller. Im buying the wireless version in a few days, trust me, once you try it you ll see what im talking about. It has fantastic analog sticks, d pad, and the analog shoulder buttons make it a no brainer if your playing smash bros. Or any game, and ive been gaming a very long time.
I'm so glad the 8bitdo controller exist. I *hate* the Xbox analog stick placement. I tolerated the Switch pro controller because I had no choice, however I couldn't play my Series X until I got my 8bitdo controller for it.
Does anyone know how the 8bitdo pro 2s d-pad compares to the hori split pad pro's d-pad? Hori is coming out with an adapter that connects the split pad which enables you to use it like a regular controller, though, I don't think it is worth spending $80.. -.- Thanks in advance
Agreed. Although I will say it is pretty clutch being able to "switch" between using them as a controller and having them on the sides of the console in portable mode. But I also think there are better third party controllers with that same joycon functionality. - Pete
@@slickdeals yeah there are definitely clutch I agree, but I imagine nintendo is making a killing because at $69 the joycon build quality leaves a lot to be desired. The Nintendo premium is real 🤕🤣
I'm not really a huge fan of the rubber start and select buttons on the 8bitdo. I'm a Sega kid and an Xbox adult. Always preferred hard buttons all around. Hate them on my SNES and PS2
If you play retro games: pro2
If you like to use the D-Pad for movement: pro2
If you play games that benefits from turbo: pro2
If you like the Playstation form factor: pro2
If you like button mapping flexibility: pro2
If you have multiple gaming platforms: pro2
If you need analogue triggers: pro2
If you want to spend less money: pro2
If you don’t want to get up to turn on your switch: Switch Pro
Edit: if you want to use Amiibo functionality: Switch Pro
If you like Xbox form factor: Switch Pro (this is a big one, obviously. It may override any and all advantages of the pro2)
also switch pro : amiibo
If 8bitdo ever releases a controller in the shape of an xbox controller, with the offset analogs and all that, I would buy it in a flash! Basically an Xbox controller with 8bitdo's d-pad, face buttons, gyro/motion controls and compatibility with different systems would be the PERFECT controller for me. I've been using Xbox controllers for some time, but I can't stand the d-pad for movement and I don't really like how the face buttons are small and rounded, and 8bitdo literally fixes these two issues I have with it while still adding gyro/motion, customizations and all that.
@@utsmanzu0907 Excellent point! I’ll add it to the list. (Not that my comment will get a ton of views, but for completeness)
@@AlefSousa017 Yeah, I’m with you. I like the way that the Xbox controller’s triggers feel too.
@@AlefSousa017 you got it now
Another advantage for the 8bitdo is you can activate turbo on the fly for any button using the left star button + whatever button. You'll know it's working because the flashing LED when you press a turbo button. Really cool feature that a lot of their controllers have.
D-Pad on the Switch Pro Controller is know for being faulty so if you like to play a lot of 2D games Bitdo Pro 2 is your best option.
True.
The 8bitdo looks like the PS1 and Super Nintendo controllers had a baby
That's because the PS1 controller is heavily based off the super Nintendo controller in the first place. Originally the PlayStation was going to be an add-on for the super Nintendo so obviously it would have used that controller.
Well i ll tell you Johan, i bought a 25 dollar sn30 pro usb controller for the switch. I decided to give it a try, and 8 months later it still works perfectly. I just won a smash ultimate tournament a dew days ago with that same controller, which is in my opinion one of the best controllers ive ever used. And as ive been gaming since before 80', i think that says it all. Its a damn well built, and designed controller that's good for any game. I love the d pad, the analog sticks, and those fantastic analog shoulder buttons. Think about giving it a try, you won't be disappointed
It basically is, same shape factor, with a SNES d-pad. analog sticks are pretty good too. no complaints about it.
The switch pro has a D-pad that is known for becoming faulty so it's an immediate no go, in my opinion.
@Jerkfat I recently got a switch pro for testing and whilst I have some comparative gripes against the 8bitdo pro 2, I stand by my comment regarding the D-pad. The switch pro is actually a better controller in a few other ways, as far as using it for the switch. Not by a huge margin but the switch pro has superior feeling thumbsticks, triggers and gyro. So it really depends on what you're going to play mostly. But it's very off putting when spending money that a device is known for having issues
@@CandarianGaming the switch pro is also prone to drift almost as bad as the joycons. Other than that the dpad it’s nearly perfect.
@@cato3277 Regarding the gyro, I'm just talking in terms of speed and accuracy. The 8bitdo pro 2 gyro has a bit of lag in comparison.
@@CandarianGaming I heard about the pro controller's dpad but I had hoped it would be just a minor thing and still decided to buy it. I could not be more disappointed. It was so bad that I had to return it. Fighting games are completely unplayable with this thing, same with 2d platformers. I refuse to pay more than what MS/Sony charges for their controllers and get a lower quality product. It is insane how this has been broken for so long and nintendo didn't fix it.
@@CandarianGaming does pro plus analog sticks have a deadzone?
the x on the back refers to xinput mode which makes the controller appear as an xbox controller on your controller. steam specifically thinks the controller is an official xbox one controller when it is in xinput mode
The 8bitdo is superior. The joystick layout is the main reason
I just wish it would wake up the switch!!! - Pete
It's more uncomfortable to reach the bottom part of the controller then the top part but I find the joysticks are easier to reach when they are below vs the dpad so i prefer playstation layout. Also wii uis the worst. However the GamePad is so big that it's fine there.
I hate playstation layout my thumbs touch eachother when using analogs and I hate that
@@marlonbrans3567 I to dislike that the solution I have found is to use a wider controller.
Much helpful for the one who is considering between these two like me. Thanks.
Bulbasaur......? That's the first.
I also think pro controller is best controller ever made,dpad could be better but its not bad,but it fits my hand perfectly
How is the Switch Pro when it comes to 2D fighting games?
meh, not so great, imo
The switch pro controller is sold out everywhere where I'm located, and I'm not willing to pay extra on shipping and duties, so I have to go with 8bitdo.
my pro controller doesnt wake my switch anymore, it connects but the switch stays asleep, which is very very odd, so im used to just getting up to wake it up now so im defo going with the 8bitdo
What’s the update?
Good stuff!! 💪🏼
the switch pro controller battery DOES come out. These guys are wrong. It uses a standard 3DS battery.
Yeah just have to unscrew it
Pro controller for me but cant go wrong with 8bitdo still great but my pro controller was 60bux brand new so it was a bit cheaper usually theyre 70 or so
I have both. Pro controller is my main controller for 3d games (which is most games), while 8bitdo is for 2d games with d-pad(sidescrolling games,fighting games,indie games,retro games etc). That way I have controller for second player as well but still have uses for both even when I play just by myself.
Got my pro controller for $50 on black friday, last year. Though, the d-pad does blow when playing 2d fighting games. I may try the 8bitdo pro2.
The greatest Flop on 8bitdo, both pro and pro2, is that input delay is too high.
It's 14ms over USB. 33ms (!!!!) over bt. For reference, ds4 is only 1.5 ms over bt.
This is caused by the very high polling rate that 8bitdo set by default. How can a controller be good updating only 30 times a second? Worse controller in the market...
vi que vc é brasileiro então vou perguntar em pt
não to duvidando, mas onde você conseguiu essas informações? pq é justamente algo que eu tava procurando e não achei em lugar nenhum
@@vitoriamaya8184 Eu tenho o SN30 pro+. Comprei justamente por toda essa propaganda positiva que fazem dele além de querer algo mais universal para usar com o PC e com o Switch. Realmente a ergonomia dele é excelente e ele parecia perfeito. No final eu não consigo usar o controle pois adiciona muito no input lag geral do meu setup.
Para ver o input delay vc precisa de algum programa que informe o polling rate do hardware conectado. O input delay é uma conta simples: 1000 (milisegundos) dividido pelo polling rate (que é dado em Hz). USB via cabo geralmente é 280 Hz que dá um input delay de cerca de 3,6 ms (o SN30 pro+ funciona em 67 Hz via USB e 30 Hz via bt). Um bom bt vai permitir conexões em 500 Hz (O DS4 faz conexão de 500 Hz via bt. É o mais rápido no mercado) e um excelente será estável em 1000 Hz. Porém essa solicitação é feita pelo hardware conectado. Uma atualização de firmware resolveria o problema nos controles da 8bitdo porém nunca fizeram mesmo comigo abrindo vários chamados ao suporte deles fornecendo provas do problema.
O jeito mais fácil de ver o input delay desse controle no PC é conectando ele no modo switch e deixando que o DS4Win (o do github) tome conta dele. Dentro das configurações (onde mostra os acelerômetros) há um campo informando o input delay em tempo real. Ele é capaz de informar tanto via bt quanto via usb. De forma alternativa tem um programa que lê o polling rate de coisas conectadas via USB (acho que era mouse polling rate ou algum nome similar) além de um que é especifico para controles Xinput.
Sobre o PRO2, um youtuber uma vez me respondeu esse dado nos comentários. O problema é presente na mesma intensidade.
@@tamodolo sim, no pc é complicado porque basicamente qualquer controle que não seja o do xbox tem delay, porque o do xbox é nativo, mas e no switch, o delay se mantém?
@@vitoriamaya8184 Na verdade o controle do Xbox é cerca de 7 ms de input delay. Todos os controles que mencionei são nativos no PC incluindo o DS4 que obedece a especificação Dinput por padrão. Os jogos de PC conseguem utilizar todos os recursos do DS4 se forem programados para isso já que essas funcionalidades estão expostas ao PC também. É por isso que o Steam consegue usar o DS4 e fazer os jogos entenderem ele. The Witcher 3 por exemplo vc pode usar o DS4 diretamente e até a lâmpada dele vai funcionar.
Medir o input delay no Switch é mais complicado. Depende de homebrew e eu não sei se existe algum que faça isso. Como o polling rate é solicitado pelo hw que conecta, assume-se que no switch ele será o mesmo. O que de fato dá pra sentir é que o SN30 pro+ responde mais devagar que os joycons.
Eu vi no changelog do mission control (um homebrew pra vc conectar qqr controle no switch) que eles diminuíram o polling rate padrão do DS4 de 1000 Hz (!!!!) para 125 Hz no fim de atingir paridade com o pro controller oficial. Dizem que isso estava degradando a velocidade do wifi. Esse controle do polling rate é possível definir e modificar se vc tiver o software adequado porém acaba sendo um tipo de overclock no hw conectado e isso per se pode causar outros problemas. Pensando agora, pode valer a pena tentar conectar o SN30 usando o mission control e ver se é possível mexer no polling rate. Mas é muito longe do ideal...
@@vitoriamaya8184 Nop... o mission control não interfere porque o suporte é nativo do controle. Simplificando, não tem solução.
Is the difference in precision in the controls very different when playing Mario Kart? Because I have 8bitdo and I wanted to get the Pro Switch
bonjour et belle vidéo , puis je jouer avec les gestes pour Zelda avec la pro 2 comme fait la Switch pro ? merci .
If 8bitdo has no drift, then don't buy nintendo
The drift is on the joycons not the pro controller but ya drift sucks.
@@bland9876 i'm afraid it's also on the pro controller :/
@@dantenage9687 are you just talking about loose sticks cuz that happens to all controllers and is normal wear and tear after using the controller for years.
Pro controllers are 60 at Walmart. I’d rather stay first party controllers then third party
I wouldn't jump to conclusions Kam, i got a usb sn30 pro that really got me into 8bitdo. I won a smash ultimate tournament using that same controller, i prefer it over nintendo's. That was a few days ago, with a smaller controller. Im buying the wireless version in a few days, trust me, once you try it you ll see what im talking about. It has fantastic analog sticks, d pad, and the analog shoulder buttons make it a no brainer if your playing smash bros. Or any game, and ive been gaming a very long time.
@@derekbuckler3859 do you know if the pro2 is tourney legal? Im curious since you can map shortcuts
@@slokeyyawns I can't speak for every scene, but at least in my local scene there is no problem, not even in the local national scene
It is Charmander, how dare you disrespect the Charmander!?
Lol
@@ScrubsWasTaken Lol! Haha!
Pro 2, I have one Bluetooth and one wired.
I'm so glad the 8bitdo controller exist. I *hate* the Xbox analog stick placement.
I tolerated the Switch pro controller because I had no choice, however I couldn't play my Series X until I got my 8bitdo controller for it.
Does anyone know how the 8bitdo pro 2s d-pad compares to the hori split pad pro's d-pad? Hori is coming out with an adapter that connects the split pad which enables you to use it like a regular controller, though, I don't think it is worth spending $80.. -.-
Thanks in advance
anyone notice any input lag on the pro 2, how does it stack up against the pro controller?
Squirtle!!!! “X” mode is X-Input for windows.
Anything is better than the joycons 🤣
Agreed. Although I will say it is pretty clutch being able to "switch" between using them as a controller and having them on the sides of the console in portable mode. But I also think there are better third party controllers with that same joycon functionality.
- Pete
@@slickdeals yeah there are definitely clutch I agree, but I imagine nintendo is making a killing because at $69 the joycon build quality leaves a lot to be desired. The Nintendo premium is real 🤕🤣
@@mikemuponda1781it’s because of all the features they bring. NFC, gyro, hd rumble, and “2 controllers in one”.
Best starter is bulbasaur
Yep. Mow through Brock and Misty easily
MissingNo best starter
Wow...didn't even mention the Turbo function. Switch has shit tons of shoot'emups. Fantastic dpad for all those fighting games on Switch too.
Sqoder
can u play pubg on the $50 controller?
Why wouldn’t you be able to?
What is the best controller for x box..if u answer me I'll sub ..gave u a like
Charmander
I'm not really a huge fan of the rubber start and select buttons on the 8bitdo. I'm a Sega kid and an Xbox adult. Always preferred hard buttons all around. Hate them on my SNES and PS2
Blastoise is used for all the speed runs for a reason gents...
i hated the pro controller..i have the $70 controller..
i hardly plays my switch games is shitty?