I compare the years of Tom Brady and Peyton Manning to what we saw with Magic Johnson and Larry Bird in the NBA. Two rivals that had much respect for each other and in retirement they get along great
@@northernkalifornia7192That's what I was thinking too after they got done with their little talk but Pat's going to have to win eight super bowls to get there I don't see it happening
@@BaldKiwi117 I don't..... I just make easy money because once you understand this you know exactly how to bet these fictional ball games......the Indoctrinated Sheeple are too Low IQ to figure it all out. Ya just got to spend 15 minutes reading the NFL legal business agreement and it's crystal clear.
@@alphaomega7758 lol, dude your only as good as the people around ya, like offensive linemen who can’t block, or a defense that gives up TD’s. No QB has ever won a playoff game or Super Bowl by himself, period!…next!
Man growing up I remember almost every play Peyton did was audibled when he saw something he didn’t like in the defense. It makes total sense that he’d be doing as was mentioned in the video lol man knew every freaking possible play inside and out
It’s incredible how Vernon was an absolute freak of an athlete from speed to strength and is also aging well, engaging, funny and speaks fluidly. He’d be great on TV
Everyone saying Mahommes.. but it’s a different league. An old, out of his prime, Tom threw for 5k at 44. He and Peyton would have destroyed the league today as far as numbers go
It’s just amazing to me how everything supposedly gets worse as more technology, medicine, information is available to the athletes. Every old person says there era is the best all of you are in denial
Tom and Peyton would meet and discuss strategy all the time. Tom openly said Peyton’s “dig and dag routes” advice for using Gronk was responsible for 70% of Gronk’s offensive production. 2 rivals that helped each other, doubt you’ll see that much more
I'm inclined to believe him. As much as I love my QB Lamar, respect Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, etc., it just always feels like they are great because of some freakish atheletic gift (arm, speed, size) or 1-2 traditional QB traits. Imagine Manning or Brady in the body of a new generation QB. They'd be unstoppable. I've never seen anything close to the consistency in pre-snap and post-snap execution as these two.
We will never see another Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. Even if future quarterbacks are cut from the same cloth the game has changed too much to compare any future quarterbacks to Peyton and Tom. They represent an end of an era of greatness in pro football that will never been seen again.
" im old school,ni would rather play with 10 people and get penalized all the way rather than play with 11 when i know thst person isnt sold out to be apart of this team. Its more about him than the team. Cannot play with them, cannot win with them, cannot coach with them. Cant do it. I WANT WINNERS..." Vernon was good but in my opinion, the greatest contribution he made to football was getting that quote from Mike Singletary.
I dont think that shit would work nowadays as much the people peyton would be talking to didnt grow up with social media, im not even a mahomes fan but the way he leads is elite for his era in my opinion. Another great one is Herbert.
lol maybe they did in ‘94 but Montana and Marino were not on the same level as Brady/Manning. Brady won 7 rings and Montana won 4 and Manning put up even better numbers than Marino AND played in 4 SB and won 2 of them. Not to mention that Brady and Manning were in the same conference and one of the two of them was in the SB almost every goddamn year. It’s not really even close.
“Gonna be years before we see Tom Brady and Peyton manning” Mahomes, allen, Lamar and burrow are definitely doing their best to get to that level :) definitely spoiled as football fans, lot of other good young QB’s on the come up too
mahomes is the only one with a chance at anything Peyton did, no one has a chance to get on toms level and mahomes is on a down year but his teams winning
Mahomes, Lamar, Josh Allen. Vs Brady, Peyton, Brees. Sorry bro it’s not close. Previous generation was elite. Idk if we’ll see that level of QB play again. Pure pocket passers.
Tom always executed things perfectly, and was pretty darn smart. But Peyton is the brain. He probably eeked out another year in Denver simply based on how smart he is... even though it was his worst year throwing ducks.
Peyton ran it ALL on offense, that’s why when he lost he knew he could take the blame. Great competitor and I believe will be a fantastic coach one day if he chooses to do so
Weeeeelllllllllll…….. the quarterback position is basically set up so that you SHOULD become exactly what Payton and Tom did. Having the personality is probably the intangible.
Tom was always clutch. Manning had to pull every advantage possible. Tom copied a lot from Manning later in his career. It helped him go from a solid QB who was unbeatable in the clutch to nearly unbeatable.
No disrespect to the legends but Josh Allen and Mahomes are the next big thing. They are only just stepping into their primes by the end of their careers we can truly compare but I think they’re better players.
Don’t sleep on Brock Purdy way too early but the young man has been killing it and now that he has started to use his legs when the lane is open…. Look out
I’m 64! So you young bucks aren’t taking guys like Elway was a menace with a rocket launcher, Farve, Dan Marino was a fukn beast of a qb. Joe Montana 4-0. Steve Young was an incredible athlete. Jim Kelly, awesome. Steve McNair had a rocket, Bradshaw, Roger Staubach, so smart. None of these dudes into account. BUT, I’m certainly not disrespecting Payton and Tom. Brilliant!
Tom and Manning's minds were just above everyone else and no knock to the people you named the but the defenses and offenses are so much more complex now
Alright some of these dudes and orthodontist need to pump the breaks a touch!! Not as blatant as Rex ryan, but there is such thing as "obnoxious" and too many are towing that line today!! Rex Ryan teeth could guide deep space flight for gawd sake!!!
Yes, he’s got the numbers because machines plays in an offensively favored league where the defense has been nerfed to some extent…. So yes, you’ll have the numbers and the chiefs have been lucky this year. I would say Mahomes and Allen are a great rivalry, but I don’t think they can dissect the game, or have the same game IQ as Payton/ Brady.
Enters Patrick… who is gaining on Payton and Joe Montana faster than we 35 and over want to admit… actually he passes Payton with another SB win and prolly Joe too…
Mahomes a great but even he isn’t at the level of being a PROFESSIONAL Quarterback that manning and Brady were on. They weren’t talking about stats and other fan based concerns
Mahomes plays in an entirely different league. So pass friendly it's getting silly. Incomparable. Mahoney has 10 more years of playing as a top 2 qb to even match Peyton
Why would we want to see another MJ or TB? We've seen it and have it on video . . . it was great. We want to see the next whomever who is great. That's why we have all these fanboys stuck on mythicizing these dudes.
thats why i started to like rugby over nfl.. nfl is so over coached that you get few great players like this. If there was a league that removed the huddle after each play and let the players play itd be amazing
@pattypat-me1sq his defense won that super bowl Manning was literally the worst quarterback in the league the year they won the Superbowl. They won in spite of Peyton.
He said “longevity” They are also the ONLY quarterbacks ever to win a superbowl with MULTIPLE teams. It’s really another level with them. I’m 30 now but Peyton is the most dominant single athlete I’ve ever watched by far other than Lebron.
I compare the years of Tom Brady and Peyton Manning to what we saw with Magic Johnson and Larry Bird in the NBA. Two rivals that had much respect for each other and in retirement they get along great
They met in the AFC championship game so many times
I think that's a fair comparison, especially considering that the NFL's michael jordan entered the league shortly after their run as well
That big ass head was all football knowledge
@@Bet021-r2w Meaning Patrick Mahomes is the Michael Jordan of the NFL.
@@northernkalifornia7192That's what I was thinking too after they got done with their little talk but Pat's going to have to win eight super bowls to get there I don't see it happening
That’s why they call him “The Sheriff” & “The General”…there’s no need for an offensive coordinator when Peyton is in the room!
Yep just like WWE.....oh that's right it is WWE with a ball just like the NFL legal business agreement says
@@SnowboardJedi don't watch
@@BaldKiwi117 I don't..... I just make easy money because once you understand this you know exactly how to bet these fictional ball games......the Indoctrinated Sheeple are too Low IQ to figure it all out. Ya just got to spend 15 minutes reading the NFL legal business agreement and it's crystal clear.
Yelp, and that's the same reason why Manning underachieved in the playoffs here in Indy.
@@alphaomega7758 lol, dude your only as good as the people around ya, like offensive linemen who can’t block, or a defense that gives up TD’s. No QB has ever won a playoff game or Super Bowl by himself, period!…next!
never seen Vernon talk before he’s a Class act
Lmaooooo
No offense but that’s a damn shame
Man growing up I remember almost every play Peyton did was audibled when he saw something he didn’t like in the defense. It makes total sense that he’d be doing as was mentioned in the video lol man knew every freaking possible play inside and out
I remember yelling "OMAHA!" as an audible.
It’s incredible how Vernon was an absolute freak of an athlete from speed to strength and is also aging well, engaging, funny and speaks fluidly. He’d be great on TV
His second career is acting. He's done a couple of movies and TV.
@ I honestly had no idea. I didn’t follow him much after he left the 49ers
@makes sense, thanks!
Still waiting for him to start coaching! Hopefully soon
@@Teddy-fm9nthe could be this generations Carl Weathers
Everyone saying Mahommes.. but it’s a different league. An old, out of his prime, Tom threw for 5k at 44. He and Peyton would have destroyed the league today as far as numbers go
Yup
Brady, Manning and Brees might get 5,500 - 6K yards in a season today lol
Brady played in this era and was still carried by his defense in the playoffs in d superbowls he won
@ this is such a loser ass comment, go get a life
It’s just amazing to me how everything supposedly gets worse as more technology, medicine, information is available to the athletes. Every old person says there era is the best all of you are in denial
Tom and Peyton would meet and discuss strategy all the time. Tom openly said Peyton’s “dig and dag routes” advice for using Gronk was responsible for 70% of Gronk’s offensive production. 2 rivals that helped each other, doubt you’ll see that much more
I always felt like Peyton would move into coaching and go down in history as one of the greatest coaches of all time
That or become a qb coach, or offensive coordinator.
Keep an eye on Arch.
Peyton was my fav, what a legend
Peyton was the real coach lol John fox just went along with what Peyton said
Easier for Fox to focus on that top tier defense.
I'm inclined to believe him. As much as I love my QB Lamar, respect Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, etc., it just always feels like they are great because of some freakish atheletic gift (arm, speed, size) or 1-2 traditional QB traits. Imagine Manning or Brady in the body of a new generation QB. They'd be unstoppable. I've never seen anything close to the consistency in pre-snap and post-snap execution as these two.
We will never see another Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. Even if future quarterbacks are cut from the same cloth the game has changed too much to compare any future quarterbacks to Peyton and Tom. They represent an end of an era of greatness in pro football that will never been seen again.
Peyton should be a coach in the NFL. The guy has a wealth of knowledge.
" im old school,ni would rather play with 10 people and get penalized all the way rather than play with 11 when i know thst person isnt sold out to be apart of this team. Its more about him than the team. Cannot play with them, cannot win with them, cannot coach with them. Cant do it. I WANT WINNERS..."
Vernon was good but in my opinion, the greatest contribution he made to football was getting that quote from Mike Singletary.
I dont think that shit would work nowadays as much the people peyton would be talking to didnt grow up with social media, im not even a mahomes fan but the way he leads is elite for his era in my opinion. Another great one is Herbert.
I love that hat as a charger fan and the only Super Bowl we been too I need to get a hat like that
I'm still surprised Peyton hasn't become a NFL coach. Dude could walk into the league and be a top tier OC.
They said the same thing about Joe Montana and Dan Marino
lol maybe they did in ‘94 but Montana and Marino were not on the same level as Brady/Manning. Brady won 7 rings and Montana won 4 and Manning put up even better numbers than Marino AND played in 4 SB and won 2 of them. Not to mention that Brady and Manning were in the same conference and one of the two of them was in the SB almost every goddamn year. It’s not really even close.
“Gonna be years before we see Tom Brady and Peyton manning” Mahomes, allen, Lamar and burrow are definitely doing their best to get to that level :) definitely spoiled as football fans, lot of other good young QB’s on the come up too
Lamar has 2 playoff wins lmao. Just stop.
mahomes is the only one with a chance at anything Peyton did, no one has a chance to get on toms level
and mahomes is on a down year but his teams winning
Mahomes, Lamar, Josh Allen.
Vs
Brady, Peyton, Brees.
Sorry bro it’s not close. Previous generation was elite. Idk if we’ll see that level of QB play again. Pure pocket passers.
Tom always executed things perfectly, and was pretty darn smart. But Peyton is the brain. He probably eeked out another year in Denver simply based on how smart he is... even though it was his worst year throwing ducks.
Payton vs tom brady is like wilt chaimberlain vs bill russell
Peyton ran it ALL on offense, that’s why when he lost he knew he could take the blame. Great competitor and I believe will be a fantastic coach one day if he chooses to do so
Weeeeelllllllllll…….. the quarterback position is basically set up so that you SHOULD become exactly what Payton and Tom did.
Having the personality is probably the intangible.
Mahomes like hold my beer😂
Man i would just tune into a Ind and Den just to watch Payton how he called the plays and everything
Peyton was the man
Sheduer talks like an OC already, and trained with TB12.
A defense worst nightmare, an offensive coordinator in pads and a helmet.
Tom was always clutch. Manning had to pull every advantage possible. Tom copied a lot from Manning later in his career. It helped him go from a solid QB who was unbeatable in the clutch to nearly unbeatable.
If I new York football team Payton Manning is my o.c facts
Love how jewels is wearing a n9ers Super Bowl gear even tho Vern didn’t win it them 😂
No disrespect to the legends but Josh Allen and Mahomes are the next big thing. They are only just stepping into their primes by the end of their careers we can truly compare but I think they’re better players.
It’s a shame Peyton didn’t get into coaching after he retired. He does have kids though so I respect the decision.
I think he’s aware that he’d lose his mind trying to coach some kid to play QB to his expectations 😂
Adam Gase owes Peyton a really nice christmas gift every year for the rest of his life for that free money that Peyton helped him earn
Don’t sleep on Brock Purdy way too early but the young man has been killing it and now that he has started to use his legs when the lane is open…. Look out
We might not have to wait that long tbh Arch Manning might be next up.
I like Vernon’s glasses; I wonder what kind they are?
A prime Manning, Brady, Marino & Brees probably coudl have thrown for 6k a season in this era
now we have lamar jackson and patrick mahones
I’m 64! So you young bucks aren’t taking guys like Elway was a menace with a rocket launcher, Farve, Dan Marino was a fukn beast of a qb. Joe Montana 4-0. Steve Young was an incredible athlete. Jim Kelly, awesome. Steve McNair had a rocket, Bradshaw, Roger Staubach, so smart. None of these dudes into account. BUT, I’m certainly not disrespecting Payton and Tom. Brilliant!
Tom and Manning's minds were just above everyone else and no knock to the people you named the but the defenses and offenses are so much more complex now
Oof, imagine Peyton Manning as an OC? That’s gonna be GOATED 🐐!!!
It’s hard for minds like that to coach most times, but Peyton has the personality where it could possibly work.
@ericharris2733 very true
What about what we're seeing now w/ Mahones?
Alright some of these dudes and orthodontist need to pump the breaks a touch!! Not as blatant as Rex ryan, but there is such thing as "obnoxious" and too many are towing that line today!! Rex Ryan teeth could guide deep space flight for gawd sake!!!
U got mahomes and allen. Allen will get 2 super bowl wins during the time he and mahomes shared the nfl
Did he really just say that with patty mahomes in the league rn as we speak????🤣😭
Brady wasn't ever the OC like Peyton. The man called all his own plays.
There a reason TB have 7 ring …. He call play in 2 min drive when he need too…
Peyton OC his way out couple SB.
Peyton perform awfully in SB ….
@@johnvo5242 Do you hate the letter s or something?
Hmm... somebody introduce Vernon to Patrick Mahomes 😂
I heard the voice crack Julian
*stares at patrick mahomes
Mahomes: "Am I joke to you!"
Yes, he’s got the numbers because machines plays in an offensively favored league where the defense has been nerfed to some extent…. So yes, you’ll have the numbers and the chiefs have been lucky this year. I would say Mahomes and Allen are a great rivalry, but I don’t think they can dissect the game, or have the same game IQ as Payton/ Brady.
"If 18 goes down, we're fucked. And we don't practice fucked"
I first taught that was von miller
Arch Manning!!!!
Literally pat mahomes right after they retired
Tom Brady actually has a stunt double in Kansas City wearing #15
Why manning isn’t coaching is beyond me
Maholmes is about to surpass them with a 3x Super Bowl win
Brady has 7 rings? He isn't about to do anything 😂
@@MikeKov86 he'll pass Brady
@@Michael-fb6ve needs 5 more Superbowls for that good luck.
@@MikeKov86 he already has 3 if he wins this one that'll be 4 at the age of 29. He'll need 3 more
@@Michael-fb6ve you said pass Brady. Learn how to count 🤣🤡
Please keep facts straight.
NK troops are fighting in Russia not Ukraine.
These US long range missle are only like 300 miles range.
Mahomme is Now
Enters Patrick… who is gaining on Payton and Joe Montana faster than we 35 and over want to admit… actually he passes Payton with another SB win and prolly Joe too…
He already has more superbowls than Peyton.
@ true… it that the only measuring stick you are using ?
Mahomes a great but even he isn’t at the level of being a PROFESSIONAL Quarterback that manning and Brady were on. They weren’t talking about stats and other fan based concerns
mahomes wouldnt be shit without reid
Mahomes plays in an entirely different league. So pass friendly it's getting silly. Incomparable. Mahoney has 10 more years of playing as a top 2 qb to even match Peyton
Lls we got Kobe and Lebron immediately after Jordan btw 😭
Bruh, his name is Patty Mahomes… its been like 2 years 😂
Then he lied to The Jets about Adam Gase's credentials.
Is that peyton manning? or painting manbing?
Broncos legend Vernon Davis
Are they saying Peyton or Paintin'?
We got LeBron who better than mj and mahomes who's already top 5 all time .
Drew Brees
You forgetting about mahomes
Why would we want to see another MJ or TB? We've seen it and have it on video . . . it was great. We want to see the next whomever who is great. That's why we have all these fanboys stuck on mythicizing these dudes.
Patrick mahomes p
Did he say Peyton or Paintin'
Won’t see a Jordan again because Bron already passed him lol
Passed him? It's 6 rings to 4.
@ congrats he has a great team stat (thanks pippen for leading in every stat besides scoring) he’s passed him in literally every individual stat lol
It’s paintin not Peyton get it right
thats why i started to like rugby over nfl.. nfl is so over coached that you get few great players like this. If there was a league that removed the huddle after each play and let the players play itd be amazing
Payton is the best QB of all time imo Tom is the greatest or at least of they era
UHHH PAT MAHOMES has 3...
I mean, we're already seeing another Peyton/Tom, Mahomes already has 3 rings and 2 MVPs
OMAHA OMAHA OMAHA!
Should jist not have an OC and save some money lol
Jim Irsay is an idiot for letting Peyton go. Even though they got Luck look what happened.
Manning was only good for 3 years after that.
@ yeah but he won another Super Bowl. Just saying all that Manning did for Indy they should of let him stay but I get it it’s a business
@pattypat-me1sq his defense won that super bowl Manning was literally the worst quarterback in the league the year they won the Superbowl. They won in spite of Peyton.
Seeing it right now with Josh and pat
Brees > Peyton
Burrow and mahomes are the new brady/manning
Peyton or Paintin ?
The level of disrespect to Mahomes
He said “longevity”
They are also the ONLY quarterbacks ever to win a superbowl with MULTIPLE teams.
It’s really another level with them.
I’m 30 now but Peyton is the most dominant single athlete I’ve ever watched by far other than Lebron.
What disrespect? Mahomes is great but doesn’t command an offense or take over their playcalling.
He won’t see this stop spinning on it.
The almighty mahomo is not on Brady’s level
@@JSalonskyever heard of Tom Brady?! Cause he’s way more dominant than Peyton.
Their names are PMahomes and L Jackson
Not years and years Vernon….Patrick mahomes has three already
Tom didnt do any of that Petton was different.