I really wasn't expecting to see a new bridge camera like this FZ80D in 2024! But I heard there is a strong demand, and I think I understand why after shooting with this camera. So who is interested in buying one?
Definitely interesting . For me who can't use my left hand. So are bridge cameras the best option. And pretty much the only option for my type of videos if I have to use one hand and don't always have the opportunity to stand close because there are large vehicles in motion. I myself have used Panasonic bridge cameras since 2008 in my RUclips videos the first was a FZ7 and today I use FZ300 and FZ2000 However, the choice of this falls away for me due to the lack of a microphone port sadly 😕A shotgun microphone is a superzoom camera's best friend. are many videos I was standing at a long distance but the sound and picture looked like I was standing 12 meters / 40FT away 😎 in addition to the usual sound improvement with wind noise etc So I hope they will come more bridge cameras preferably someone with 4K60 video to when many other cameras has it even action cameras etc. Take care from Sweden
yes this one is more towards the entry level end of the bridge camera from Lumix. Hopefully we will see something higher end with more features in the near future!
Hi Richard, this helped me a lot. My old lumix fz200 went kaput after 9 years!! before I left for a major trip abroad, and I wanted to upgrade. I always shot my lumix in portrait mode with only 100-400 iso. Based on your review, this camera will definitely meet my needs! Thank you for being thorough and realistic.
I've owned FZ200/300/1000 - all excellent. I know the FZ80 was sometimes criticized as not being as good as these models, mainly for being a bit blurry on its longest focal length, in part due to its image stabilization. I wonder if this has been improved in this model. I recently had a chance to revisit the FZ300, and use it alongside an APS-C Fuji setup X-T2 with a Tamron 18-300 (approx 28mm-450mm in 35mm equivalent). The FZ300 actually faired quite well in the right lighting, showing very good detail. The smaller sensors always lose out on color and dynamic range though, and that lends to a certain look that can appear washed out or blown out. Colors are not as vibrant either. In the bridge class, perhaps the best all-rounder are the 1" sensors. The FZ1000 (both I and II models) are incredible cameras, fast focusing with high-resolutions files with a good degree of dynamic range. IQ on these isn't too far behind some of Panasonic's micro-four thirds sensors from the mid-2010s - which is still very good. Bridge cameras continue to fetch high prices on the used markets, including even the old FZ200. Sony's last high-end bridge camera the RX10 IV still holds its value and quality, but I don't think we will see a new model from them. Leica has recently come out with the D-Lux 8, arguably a Lumix LX100 II with a few additions and quality-of-life upgrades. While it would be nice to see some sensor improvements on these types of cameras, I think we can now say that the biggest improvements to image quality are going to come from post-processing in terms of AI / neural net algorithms. Lightroom denoise and Topaz, are just scratching the surface. Soon you will be able to take quite noisy and blurry images and have them reconstructed with any type of lighting, detail, weather condition, lens type etc. Depends on how you want to create. For purists who want the best image quality straight-out-of-camera, they aren't going to be looking at these type of cameras anyways. My main reason for no longer owning a bridge camera are the flexibility/control an interchangeable lens body allows, better image quality, but also the availability of lenses like the Tamron 18-300. Not only can the Tamron 18-300 exceed the focal range of the FZ1000 but it will even match the range of the FZ300/330 once the overall pixel size of the image is factored in. Importantly, a lens like the 18-300 is a manual zoom rather than zoom-by-wire (common on most bridge cameras) so I find this much better suited for faster subject acquisition. The new Zoom acquisition on the FZ80D is a nice touch though, If I did own a bridge camera now, it would probably be a Sony RX10 IV or the Nikon P950, but the FZ80D deserves a look especially with these quality of life updates and given the continual improvements in post-processing technology.
Hello did you have a chance to compare fz300 with fz80, or perhaps you would know is fz300 close to picture quality if you zoomed it, and crop a bit on computer after, i mean if you shot video with fz80 at 1200mm, it's getting darker and noisier, but what if shoot on fz300 at 600mm and later crop it more closer to the object you need, would it lose quality that much like if fz80 shooting on it 1200mm optical, Thank You
Cause now i have 3 options in almost the same price range ... fz300/330 fz80/82 or sony a55 with tamron lens70...300mm, i was thinking to start video recording of wild life with birds it quite easy i can come closer, but i don't wan't to get realy close to the bear or wolf...
@@anytv I don’t have direct experience with the FZ80. I do know that it has a bit of a noisier sensor than the FZ300, however the FZ80 has more megapixels, so those noise artifacts will be smaller relatively. With modern denoising algorithms this may not be as much of an issue. The FZ300 will overall have a bit better image quality though has less reach than the FZ80. FZ300 is truly excellent and fun to use and is also weather resistant. There is a new version of the FZ80 - the FZ80D with some quality of life improvements including USB-C connection. I might go with the FZ80D if found at a good price. If you really want a versatile camera for stills and video, consider getting an FZ1000 first gen. They can be had for a bargain and the larger 1in sensor at 20mp will give you great shots. For bear shots however, that is going to be much more difficult to pull off unless they are grazing black bears.
@malfunkt yeah black bears in British Columbia 😅, thank you for a quick response, i think to get fz1000 or fz300 and later to zoom it and crop on computer, i think it could be close to fz80 zoom. Thx
Yes that's a bit disappointing. When I initially saw that, I thought it was a one off thing, but i re-tested a few time and it is still there. Doesn't matter though if you mainly use it for photos (or put it on a tripod)
I’m excited to get this camera. All my cameras are light, Nikon D5100, Sony RX 100. The FZ80D will be so helpful to help me identify birds during migration. If unsure I can snap a picture and figure it out later. That would be my main use.
Great review. One of my favourite film cameras was a Chinon bridge camera back in the late 80s. I loved that camera (apart from the expensive batteries) because it let me take good photos in a fun way and had a zoom built-in. The same with digital cameras - the superzoom bridge cameras are just what some people need. They are fun, good in general situations, no issues with changing lenses, and can take some good photos, in much the same way as the Lumix LX and TZ cameras did. Nice to see an updated version. (Also, they seem to retain some resale value from looking around the place).
Richard, are you able to check the sync speed for flash? Bridge camera tends to have leaf shutter, so even in low light situation or high dynamic range situation, we still can use flash
I just tried it with my Godox flash and disabled the high speed sync. Firing at 1/2000s shutter speed (fastest mechanical shutter speed) and flash seems working fine
I have this camera, and he is 100% right...having good lighting is an absolute must! The video is quite shaky. But the image quality is well worth, and exceeds the price given favorable shooting conditions.
I’m hoping for a 1” sensor phase detect AF bridge camera from Panasonic, especially if it had great ibis for wildlife video. An fz2500iii would be fantastic. Or if I’m really dreaming, a completely new model: an MFT phase detect AF bridge camera.
I would like to see a new 1" bridge camera with Panasonic's latest technology too! But then the size/weight/price/range of the camera won't be quite the same. I don't think everyone needs 1200mm, so some compromises can be made in terms of range
@@TheRealRichardWong agreed. I’d be okay with paying as much as $1800 for a 1” bridge with pdaf and weather sealing, maybe in the 24mm-600mm focal range and good ibis on the long end. Especially if they could throw in the internal ND mechanism from the fz2500
I am looking for a camera with at least 100 fps for analyses in sports! I would like to be able to make several recordings of approx. 20 - 40 seconds. My old camera was a JVC | GC-PX100 (is now defective). Is there a good replacement?
Excellent review, thank you for taking the time to produce this video! The view finder and screen improvements would be nice to have, but not enough for me to move up from my FZ80. One of the things I love about the Wi-Fi is the ability to use the Panasonic Image App. I have set up the camera next to a hummingbird feeder to capture images, and also being able to zoom and change the camera settings without touching the camera is perfect for different types of remote photography.
I actually have two older models very similar. Looks like thay have added some features but otherwise your review would seem to apply the same to them. Fun zoom, looks great in good lighting, low lighting don't bother unless you can use night mode long exposure on a tripod.
I love bridge cameras from Panasonic and I currently have the glorious FZ200. It's a 2012 model which only saw a small upgrade (FZ300). I truly hope one day they will make a follow up with better image quality (12mpx is not enough), better ISO and 4k 60 video.
The cheapest integrated zoom lens camera with UHD 60 (or 50) is the Panasonic HC-X1500. It's got 24x zoom, dual SD slots, mic and headphone jacks, HEVC recording, 10-bit 4:2:2 UHD, and unlimited record time.
If you've had that fz200 long time, you should really move up to the fz300. The autofocus on the fz300 is a lot better. It has a touch screen and Wi-Fi. The image quality is better. It's still the same lens as the fz200. It does 4K video and new video features. It's operations are similar to G85
@@PhillyJoePis fz300 close to picture quality if you zoomed it, and crop a bit on computer after, i mean if you shot video with fz80 at 1200mm, it's getting darker and noisier, but what if shoot on fz300 at 600mm and later crop it more closer to the object you need, would it lose quality that much like if fz80 shooting on it 1200mm optical, Thank You
That's one time trip, but photos/video's are eternal. Get better but heavier gear or live in regret You didnt take better photos when You had the chance.
It needs a mic input and a headphone output. My FZ-30 was great long ago. The original FZ-80 was a powerful camera in the past. I bought the cheapy G-100 to have inputs and outputs plus I have about 10 micro 4/3rds lenses. Thank you for a good review.
Single person use face detection it should work quite well. For multiple person I would do the same but get the camera to focus on the closest person. Then make sure the depth of field is enough to cover all the other people in the photo
Richard, is the third registered camera (in China from Panasonic) an upgraded version of the FZ80/82? If so, then nothing new from Panasonic this year.
Thank you for the quality review. I just purchased the Minolta Pro Shot 20 Mega Pixel HD Digital Camera with 67x Optical Zoom for my wife who just wants to take quality outdoor photos with zoom without knowing much about photography. Can you tell me how this new Panasonic will compare to the Minolta? I haven't opened the box yet and can still return it if it's worth the price difference. Paid $340 on Amazon. Thanks.
quick question, That amount of blur and bokeh when birding, can you also replicate that when shooting portraits with super zoom camera? not just this model?
you can. but not to the same extend as you can't zoom in as much when shooting portrait (unless you want a REALLY close up shot of someone). So you would zoom out a bit which reduce the amount of background blur
@@TheRealRichardWong so technically, with super zoom having f2.8 or f2.9 on wide, is it better to shoot closer or move further away from the subject and make use of the zoom to get to 80-200mm?
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Hello, thank you very much for the video, I have a question, I am looking for a camera with good optical zoom but I want it to make 4K videos that I can mix with other 4K videos.. What do you recommend, the Canon SX70... the Nikkon P950 or this camera? which recently came onto the market...thank you very much...greetings from Chile
hi there, sorry it's a bit hard for me to comment as it depends on a lot of things like what is the other camera you use, how you shoot with this camera..etc. I think the FZ80D can capture great quality video during the day, apart from the jitters i mentioned in the review. I don't have much experience with the SX70 myself but the P950 is a nice camera and provides longer reach. But downside with the P950 is that it's a more expensive and bigger camera so there is a tradeoff. Note while i have done a review of the P950 that was many years ago and i haven't compare the footage of the P950 with this camera side by side
I had an FZ72 for several years and I have always regretted disposing of it and going to Sony. I think I will be getting one of these, though the wider angle aspect of it means more to me than long telephoto. I have big hand ands the body of the FZ72 always sat well in theme. For my needs I think would be sensible cost effective choice.
not sure about preMF setting. But it has a macro and normal AF setting, the normal AF setting is kind like focus range limiter as it stops the camera from focusing very close.
I had a Canon 560HS with basically similar specs, same sensor size, 21-1360mm optical zoom. I decided to go for an M50m2 for these reasons: The small sensor. Aperture range at tele was 1 stop, at wide 2.5 stops, not good enough. I hated the motorized zoom, always over or under shooting. Then it had no touch screen but that i.s resolved with most of the new cameras. Basically I wanted a greater range of options and better image quality. IMO lenses over 400mm are for special cases and are difficult when used hand held both in terms of camera shake and following moving objects.
This is awesome. I have the FZ300 and FZ2500. I never thought a new bridge camera would be developed after these. ❤ I have the S5ii but take the FZ2500 when I want to travel light.
Thank you for your review and it was on this basis that I purchased the EU version - FZ82D. This version does NOT come with a PSU or a USB-C cable. My pet hate is lack of HDMI output unless in playback mode. This means you can't use a front facing monitor for Vlogging which is infuriating!
When I heard of this camera I was excited to be able to take it to the worlds largest airshow in Oshkosh Wisconsin but then was disappointed it doesn’t come out until after that. Not too disappointed though as I’ll be shooting with the Sony A9III with the Sigma 500mm f/5.6
Good review. Not sure if there's enough to justify upgrading from the original FZ82. Why drop the WiFi option in 2024? It seems a very strange decision
A few improvements from the original, it's just a shame they didn't add an articulating screen, or even a tilting one. But then I suppose they might be worried it would impact sales of the FZ300 if they did that. A very informative and thorough review, great work!
I think the reason they didn't add articulated screen is that they will need to design a new shell, and other changes required as a result which will drive the cost and hence price up further. Then it maybe hard for people to justify paying so much more as the sensor/lens etc appears to be same as the original version
Lightweight Super Zoom == Super Fun, if it's has sharp quick auto focus it will be good, I hope they fix that weird shuddering roller shutter that coming through on your video footage before they release the camera
We still use the Panasonic FZ330 bridge camera. Zoom range 24 to 600 mm but with constant F 2.8 Aperture. Has a flip screen. No motivation to change to this bridge camera.
@@TheRealRichardWong but there is not nothing of important. After 7 years... 😔 They could have improved at least a few more important aspects. I insert an effective electronic stavikization. or review the fz300 which has a much more interesting optics with constant f2.8 aperture. an fz 2000 with phase af and the new stabilization system would be the best. 🥳
yes agree. This is really a "facelift" i.e. minor update. I would LOVE to see more changes. Unfortunately the problem with just adding one or two feature means there are usually a lot of under the hood changes required. Hopefully we will see new version of Panasonic's other point and shoot/bridge cameras with more improvements in the near future
finally a good bridge camera at a good price point. I thought they were a thing of the past... Crazy to see how expensive very old bridge camera were going second hand!!
For that budget, it maybe best to look at a second hand mirrorless camera with a nice quality kit lens. There are many options but it would be hard to recommend a particular one
@@burakozc3079 Zoom and Night are not good partners. A used Sony a6100 or a6300 with a fast Viltrox or 7/TT Artisans autofocus lens with a wide f1.x aperture would be a good start. There are hundreds of affordable lenses for those Sonys.
good review. It's nice to see panasonic keeping this line alive. I hope they add more computational photography features like high resolution mode or HDR RAW through multishot, or even Dynamic Range boost like g9ii. There's definitely a market for high end small sensor camera when you need a lot of Depth of Field (think product photography)
Can we attach a lens hood with it? I had a Nikon B500 before. I am happy bridge cameras are coming from the ashes. Nikon also has registered a model, which is an upgrade of the P1000. I guess, Canon will upgrade its Powershot series soon.
I tried to buy their Japanese version FZ85D in Tokyo but unfortunately the camera menu is only available in Japanese. My buddy advised not to buy a camera with such a small Censor. 😅 Another reason is that the Japanese local manufacturing standard is higher than the export version. 😢
Hey Richard, i have a question, why some people especially the youtuber and people like to spend money, doesnt just use camera like this or a Panasonic HC-X1500 camcorder when they want to shoot wild animal photo and video, they do it mostly in day time and at most just in evening, the image quality womt be much different, just less overexpore in some area and more contrast, they often do it for fun too, some even just take video of them, hence, why they still choose bigger sensor mirrorless, is it because lf the hype and not much marketing for these kind of bridge camera ans camcorder which make tjem forgotten?
I can't speak of everyone, but for myself, I need to shoot both photos and cameras with my camera and I shoot at day time, night time. So a large sensor camera would be better choice for me. If I use a camcorder, I would still need to buy/carry a separate photo camera. The mirrorless camera is usually where you find the latest technology first. like the latest image stabilisation system.
@@TheRealRichardWong yeah, I learned it's about compromise or else everyone will just get a medium format camera, higher size better image quality but less things you can do or go smaller with lower quality but more things you can do or you go for the middle, but I think even if you get a mirrorless you still need to change lens, this is my still planning setup, which one do you think make more sense?: 1) Xperia 1 VI (for 2X macro, 16,24,48,85-170) with Zf 28-400mm f4-8 2) Xperia 1 VI with Zf with a prime with HC-X1500 25-600mm 3) Xperia 1 VI + Hasselblads with a 25mm (20mm FF eq, plan to use it with crop 2X to 50mm), Zf with 70-180mm / 28-400mm and HC-X1500 I like to shoot artistic photo for fun, contest and gig if I get to land on any, I like video and dreamed to get a camcorder since teen age but they don't have much new release now, also I learned that you can have one that do a lot but might have compromise and you will need to good at shifting your mind for different task while using the same thing or else you will be like get off work but still in work place and mind kind of feel, but more things mean you need to take care more things
Zf is an awesome camera, I'm considering getting one for myself! But if you do plan to shoot video quite a bit, i would suggest the S5II or S5IIx instead as that's a much better video camera and also offer some photo feature the Zf can't provide.
I'm rather confused about why Panasonic even bothered with this release. This follows the same theme as the G100D, a similar rehash of a camera with only a new EVF and USB-C port. Still, these cameras are better to have as options rather than nothing at all.
I believe Panasonic has to replace some components to continue manufacturing, so they use the opportunity to update it with new EVF, new LCD, USB-C port and add the new zoom compose assist. So I think of it as a facelift model that car manufacturers usually do to their cars
@@TheRealRichardWong Agree...though this facelift is long, long overdue compared to that of cars. As such, I do not feel the need to upgrade mine, as I have gotten used to it just fine and will hold on to it for as long as I can.
Thanks. What a shame about that awful jitter making it unusable for video which basically makes it just a stills camera. Panasonic should have corrected that with this updated model, thats just lazy. Might as well just get a used FZ series camera and save a lot of money.
I like what they've done, but they could have gone much farther. An external microphone port, larger sensor, higher resolution, greater aperture range. This is a step up, but more of a baby step.
This is a very interesting release by Panasonic. Some odd decisions like dropping the WiFi in 2024! 😂 I'm tempted to get one for my son to get into photography without going for a mirrorless camera with interchangeable lenses. Thanks for the detailed review 👍🏻
Yeah who need wifi ? 😅🤣. Yes i can see it can be useful for younger people to get them to get into photography without buying a mirrorless camera and all the lenses
@@TheRealRichardWong just got an email from an Australian retailer - they want $849 for it!! That’s just a couple of hundred dollars less than the outgoing Nikon P950 and P1000 on sale. I don’t think they’re going to be selling many units for that price!
I have the Sony Equivalent to this camera and I also have the original Panasonic LUMIX DMC-FZ1000. So I don't get anyone's excitement about Panasonic bringing back the even smaller sensor Camera. It's going to cost about $480. I would not advise any newcomer to go back in time to those Tiny Sensor Cameras. Nothing less then 1 inch sensors cameras is Bare Bones these days. So I would rather see Panasonic focus far more on version 3 of the FZ1000. That and the LX100M, also version 3. I can't believe there is STRONG demand again for Tiny Sensor Cameras when folks already have their so called Smart Phones.
Different cameras for different users. For a lot of people, camera like this FZ80D provides similar or even better image quality than their phones (not everyone have latest iPhone) and allow them to zoom all the way to 1200mm focal length that phones can't do.
@@TheRealRichardWong I am quite aware of the different camera for different users. I am also quite aware that most buyers of this Camera will be ignorant to the fact of how low quality the images will be coming out of this camera. Let me repeat, I still have the Sony Cyber-shot DSC-HX400V Digital Camera with the 20.4MP 1/2.3" Exmor R CMOS Sensor with the 24-1200mm Equiv. Focal Length. Zooming out to 1200 is meaningless if the quality ends up being very poor. And I assure that is mostly what most folks will be getting. Most would be far better off buying used MFTs gear. Which by way, you know Panasonic also makes.
@@natureredux1957 thank you for bringing attention to the photo quality, i was about to get one actually either that or the fz1000 ii , if you were to recommend a beginner like me for a bridge camera in 2024 which one do you think will better suit a beginner, or should i just jump to mirrorless altogether, I'm just a hobbyist and this'll be my first. thank you in advance
@@alis1079 If your primary subjects are wildlife, and your budget would allow it, I would at the very least start out with a APS-C camera and determine just what amount your budget would allow for lens. If not, then the Fz1000ii is decent for getting your Feet wet but not nearly in the same class as the Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX10 IV which has the same size sensor but will cost you almost Double the Price. But most Sony products will give you better AF. Which will be important. Then there is the used Market. Hobbyist don't have to RUSH in, so just take your time deciding and keep in mind that the upcoming Holiday Black Friday, there will be massive Camera Sales. It will be here before you know it.
oh ***** I shall have to save and get one now. I thought that was it, no more new bridge cameras. And I do love one to use instead of long heavy lenses on my other camera.
I really wasn't expecting to see a new bridge camera like this FZ80D in 2024! But I heard there is a strong demand, and I think I understand why after shooting with this camera. So who is interested in buying one?
The zoom is fantastic! I would feel very comfortable to buy this camera for my doughter for wathever she want's to start doing. Photography and Video.
Definitely interesting . For me who can't use my left hand. So are bridge cameras the best option. And pretty much the only option for my type of videos if I have to use one hand and don't always have the opportunity to stand close because there are large vehicles in motion.
I myself have used Panasonic bridge cameras since 2008 in my RUclips videos the first was a FZ7 and today I use FZ300 and FZ2000
However, the choice of this falls away for me due to the lack of a microphone port sadly 😕A shotgun microphone is a superzoom camera's best friend. are many videos I was standing at a long distance but the sound and picture looked like I was standing 12 meters / 40FT away 😎 in addition to the usual sound improvement with wind noise etc
So I hope they will come more bridge cameras preferably someone with 4K60 video to when many other cameras has it even action cameras etc.
Take care from Sweden
yes this one is more towards the entry level end of the bridge camera from Lumix. Hopefully we will see something higher end with more features in the near future!
I remember that I told lumix JP representatives that we need bigggg zoom😂
@@caoyang5074 oh so that's you who created this camera 😎
Hi Richard, this helped me a lot. My old lumix fz200 went kaput after 9 years!! before I left for a major trip abroad, and I wanted to upgrade. I always shot my lumix in portrait mode with only 100-400 iso. Based on your review, this camera will definitely meet my needs! Thank you for being thorough and realistic.
Wow you are a better reviewer than majority of people I see on RUclips. No hard cuts and proper presentation. Thank you.
Really appreciate that
I've owned FZ200/300/1000 - all excellent. I know the FZ80 was sometimes criticized as not being as good as these models, mainly for being a bit blurry on its longest focal length, in part due to its image stabilization. I wonder if this has been improved in this model.
I recently had a chance to revisit the FZ300, and use it alongside an APS-C Fuji setup X-T2 with a Tamron 18-300 (approx 28mm-450mm in 35mm equivalent). The FZ300 actually faired quite well in the right lighting, showing very good detail. The smaller sensors always lose out on color and dynamic range though, and that lends to a certain look that can appear washed out or blown out. Colors are not as vibrant either.
In the bridge class, perhaps the best all-rounder are the 1" sensors. The FZ1000 (both I and II models) are incredible cameras, fast focusing with high-resolutions files with a good degree of dynamic range. IQ on these isn't too far behind some of Panasonic's micro-four thirds sensors from the mid-2010s - which is still very good.
Bridge cameras continue to fetch high prices on the used markets, including even the old FZ200. Sony's last high-end bridge camera the RX10 IV still holds its value and quality, but I don't think we will see a new model from them.
Leica has recently come out with the D-Lux 8, arguably a Lumix LX100 II with a few additions and quality-of-life upgrades.
While it would be nice to see some sensor improvements on these types of cameras, I think we can now say that the biggest improvements to image quality are going to come from post-processing in terms of AI / neural net algorithms. Lightroom denoise and Topaz, are just scratching the surface. Soon you will be able to take quite noisy and blurry images and have them reconstructed with any type of lighting, detail, weather condition, lens type etc. Depends on how you want to create. For purists who want the best image quality straight-out-of-camera, they aren't going to be looking at these type of cameras anyways.
My main reason for no longer owning a bridge camera are the flexibility/control an interchangeable lens body allows, better image quality, but also the availability of lenses like the Tamron 18-300. Not only can the Tamron 18-300 exceed the focal range of the FZ1000 but it will even match the range of the FZ300/330 once the overall pixel size of the image is factored in. Importantly, a lens like the 18-300 is a manual zoom rather than zoom-by-wire (common on most bridge cameras) so I find this much better suited for faster subject acquisition. The new Zoom acquisition on the FZ80D is a nice touch though,
If I did own a bridge camera now, it would probably be a Sony RX10 IV or the Nikon P950, but the FZ80D deserves a look especially with these quality of life updates and given the continual improvements in post-processing technology.
Hello did you have a chance to compare fz300 with fz80, or perhaps you would know is fz300 close to picture quality if you zoomed it, and crop a bit on computer after, i mean if you shot video with fz80 at 1200mm, it's getting darker and noisier, but what if shoot on fz300 at 600mm and later crop it more closer to the object you need, would it lose quality that much like if fz80 shooting on it 1200mm optical, Thank You
Cause now i have 3 options in almost the same price range ... fz300/330 fz80/82 or sony a55 with tamron lens70...300mm, i was thinking to start video recording of wild life with birds it quite easy i can come closer, but i don't wan't to get realy close to the bear or wolf...
@@anytv I don’t have direct experience with the FZ80. I do know that it has a bit of a noisier sensor than the FZ300, however the FZ80 has more megapixels, so those noise artifacts will be smaller relatively. With modern denoising algorithms this may not be as much of an issue. The FZ300 will overall have a bit better image quality though has less reach than the FZ80. FZ300 is truly excellent and fun to use and is also weather resistant. There is a new version of the FZ80 - the FZ80D with some quality of life improvements including USB-C connection. I might go with the FZ80D if found at a good price. If you really want a versatile camera for stills and video, consider getting an FZ1000 first gen. They can be had for a bargain and the larger 1in sensor at 20mp will give you great shots. For bear shots however, that is going to be much more difficult to pull off unless they are grazing black bears.
@malfunkt yeah black bears in British Columbia 😅, thank you for a quick response, i think to get fz1000 or fz300 and later to zoom it and crop on computer, i think it could be close to fz80 zoom. Thx
So is there really significant updates on focus ability, image quality compare to the old version?
Pity about that shudder with ibis on. Understand it at 1200mm, but deal breaker when its there at all focal lengths.
Yes that's a bit disappointing. When I initially saw that, I thought it was a one off thing, but i re-tested a few time and it is still there. Doesn't matter though if you mainly use it for photos (or put it on a tripod)
True. Looks like yello with that rolling shutter... video is quite unusable - photos are great though..
I wonder if a firmware update my update this judder 🤔
Think I would get the Nikon P950 instead.
@@dotdashdotdash Nikon P1000 (when used correctly) is still unbeatable (bridge), waiting for newer version with "modernizations".
You rock Richard! My first digital camera was a Panasonic FZ20 back in 2004. It launched my career as a professional photographer and filmmaker!
Hey Peter, thanks!! FZ20! that is a classic!
I’m excited to get this camera. All my cameras are light, Nikon D5100, Sony RX 100. The FZ80D will be so helpful to help me identify birds during migration. If unsure I can snap a picture and figure it out later. That would be my main use.
Great review. One of my favourite film cameras was a Chinon bridge camera back in the late 80s. I loved that camera (apart from the expensive batteries) because it let me take good photos in a fun way and had a zoom built-in. The same with digital cameras - the superzoom bridge cameras are just what some people need. They are fun, good in general situations, no issues with changing lenses, and can take some good photos, in much the same way as the Lumix LX and TZ cameras did. Nice to see an updated version. (Also, they seem to retain some resale value from looking around the place).
Elon: We need to go to Mars.
Panasonic: Why? You can view from here.
LOOOL
Richard, are you able to check the sync speed for flash? Bridge camera tends to have leaf shutter, so even in low light situation or high dynamic range situation, we still can use flash
I just tried it with my Godox flash and disabled the high speed sync. Firing at 1/2000s shutter speed (fastest mechanical shutter speed) and flash seems working fine
@@TheRealRichardWong thank you for checking it out, Richard. It's a lesser known feature of most fixed lens cameras.
I have this camera, and he is 100% right...having good lighting is an absolute must! The video is quite shaky. But the image quality is well worth, and exceeds the price given favorable shooting conditions.
Thank you and glad to hear you agree with my thoughts :)
This will be my fifth Panasonic Lumix camera.
Enjoy!!
I’m hoping for a 1” sensor phase detect AF bridge camera from Panasonic, especially if it had great ibis for wildlife video. An fz2500iii would be fantastic. Or if I’m really dreaming, a completely new model: an MFT phase detect AF bridge camera.
If they did that, with the same focal length as FZ80D, we would be in heaven!
I would like to see a new 1" bridge camera with Panasonic's latest technology too! But then the size/weight/price/range of the camera won't be quite the same. I don't think everyone needs 1200mm, so some compromises can be made in terms of range
@@TheRealRichardWong I wouldn't mind a Panasonic version of Sony's ZV-1, with longer focal length.
@@TheRealRichardWong agreed. I’d be okay with paying as much as $1800 for a 1” bridge with pdaf and weather sealing, maybe in the 24mm-600mm focal range and good ibis on the long end. Especially if they could throw in the internal ND mechanism from the fz2500
@@KwamtumPshX Thats not possible. The lens takes up way too much room, thats why you have never seen a M43 bridge camera.
Thank you for bringing this to our attention! I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this one!
you are welcome :)
I am looking for a camera with at least 100 fps for analyses in sports! I would like to be able to make several recordings of approx. 20 - 40 seconds.
My old camera was a JVC | GC-PX100 (is now defective). Is there a good replacement?
Wow, very well made and thorough video! Thank you!
9784mm zoom should be called Bigfoot mode, lol. Perfect for capturing mythical animals.
LOL. But if you are shooting after dark, at 9784mm, the camera would turn any more animal into a mythical one as well
@@TheRealRichardWong Sounds like you just captured a shot of ol' Nessy! lmao!
Can it be using as a live stream camera? Told that HDMI output is only for playbacks.
You can't because the lack of real time video HDMI output
Excellent review, thank you for taking the time to produce this video! The view finder and screen improvements would be nice to have, but not enough for me to move up from my FZ80. One of the things I love about the Wi-Fi is the ability to use the Panasonic Image App. I have set up the camera next to a hummingbird feeder to capture images, and also being able to zoom and change the camera settings without touching the camera is perfect for different types of remote photography.
I actually have two older models very similar. Looks like thay have added some features but otherwise your review would seem to apply the same to them. Fun zoom, looks great in good lighting, low lighting don't bother unless you can use night mode long exposure on a tripod.
Richard, Thank you for your content. We will all celebrate when you cross 100k subs. Keep the faith.
haha i really doubt i can ever reach 100k. But that is still my goal!!! One day I hope :)
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I love bridge cameras from Panasonic and I currently have the glorious FZ200. It's a 2012 model which only saw a small upgrade (FZ300). I truly hope one day they will make a follow up with better image quality (12mpx is not enough), better ISO and 4k 60 video.
The cheapest integrated zoom lens camera with UHD 60 (or 50) is the Panasonic HC-X1500. It's got 24x zoom, dual SD slots, mic and headphone jacks, HEVC recording, 10-bit 4:2:2 UHD, and unlimited record time.
If you've had that fz200 long time, you should really move up to the fz300. The autofocus on the fz300 is a lot better. It has a touch screen and Wi-Fi. The image quality is better. It's still the same lens as the fz200. It does 4K video and new video features. It's operations are similar to G85
@@PhillyJoeP I know, nothing major compared the FZ200 but a bit better.
@@PhillyJoePis fz300 close to picture quality if you zoomed it, and crop a bit on computer after, i mean if you shot video with fz80 at 1200mm, it's getting darker and noisier, but what if shoot on fz300 at 600mm and later crop it more closer to the object you need, would it lose quality that much like if fz80 shooting on it 1200mm optical, Thank You
Will buy this for our Alaska cruise, no way I am bringing my s5 ii kits and all that glass!
That's one time trip, but photos/video's are eternal. Get better but heavier gear or live in regret You didnt take better photos when You had the chance.
@@m4rcin847I ended up getting a G9 ii with 100-400 Leica/lumix
Hi, is it weatherproof?
No i don't think so.
It needs a mic input and a headphone output.
My FZ-30 was great long ago. The original FZ-80 was a powerful camera in the past.
I bought the cheapy G-100 to have inputs and outputs plus I have about 10 micro 4/3rds lenses.
Thank you for a good review.
Hi. Did you test canon sx70hs? Is this lumix better than this canon?
@@LemoneQYT no sorry I have not, so I can't really answer your question
Hi Richard, thank you for the great review. Have you posted your sample photos anywhere?
No sorry I have post just a few photos on my Facebook page but that's it. I want to redo my website so in the future I can post some photos there
@@TheRealRichardWong great idea, thank you 👍
I would like to see bridge camera with a mft sensor. 12-200mm f2.8-4 would be perfect successor of fz1000
To photograph one person, which mode focus/AF mode is better to use? And to photograph more than one person, which AF mode is better to use?
Single person use face detection it should work quite well. For multiple person I would do the same but get the camera to focus on the closest person. Then make sure the depth of field is enough to cover all the other people in the photo
Richard, is the third registered camera (in China from Panasonic) an upgraded version of the FZ80/82? If so, then nothing new from Panasonic this year.
Sorry i don't know. We are just at half year mark, I wouldn't be surprised if we see some more release in 2024 (just purely my personal guess)
Hi, great review. I wanted to know if this new model had WiFi, I can't find anything on the specifications...
@@marcogeusa5346 hi there no wifi
Great review. Still loving my FZ2500.
Thank you!
Why update for FZ2500 Mark2 for a new autofocus.
Does this camera supports in camera LUTs just as the Lumix S9?
No it doesn't
Richard 你好，謝謝你的介紹，想問問如果在Nikon P950 （已是2017 年出版）和 LUMIX Fz82D 中攔一部，你的選擇會是那一部，因為我想買一部合適的相機到非洲看動物大遷移，謝謝你🙏
Delon 你好！其實兩部相機畫質功能方面都差不多各有各長處短處.我覺得最大差別係nikon zoom比較大.但也重好多.所以最主要是你可不可以接受1kg重量.Lumix wide angle比較廣角,但非洲(我沒去過）應該不太需要20mm
@@TheRealRichardWong Richard 很多謝你的意見，因為我是攝影新手也不需要太大功能的相機，之前考慮過 Sony RX10IV ，但已是2017 出廠，第5代等極都唔出，它的focus 對準功能很快，但機身重和價錢相對比 Nikon P950 和Limux FZ82D 貴。今次我主要是考慮長距離能影動物和焦距能夠快。🙏🙏
@DelonHui 其實呢部Lumix雖然話2024,但有九成九跟之前嘅fz80/82係一樣,所以選擇另外牌子2017機表現上都唔會有什麼大改進
@@TheRealRichardWong 明白，原來Panasonic 是換湯不換藥😅
Thank you for the quality review. I just purchased the Minolta Pro Shot 20 Mega Pixel HD Digital Camera with 67x Optical Zoom for my wife who just wants to take quality outdoor photos with zoom without knowing much about photography. Can you tell me how this new Panasonic will compare to the Minolta? I haven't opened the box yet and can still return it if it's worth the price difference. Paid $340 on Amazon. Thanks.
is it possible to livestream? and do you think it would be good for planespotting videos?
No you cant Livestream at all.
Wish it was 1” sensor instead of 1/2.3 😢
Panasonic has their 1" sensor camera line, but those would be usually larger in size and smaller in zoom range/reach
Is it worth me upgrading from my original fz82?
I would say No. Unless you really want the higher res EVF/LCD and USB-C or you really want the zoom compose assist feature
quick question, That amount of blur and bokeh when birding, can you also replicate that when shooting portraits with super zoom camera? not just this model?
you can. but not to the same extend as you can't zoom in as much when shooting portrait (unless you want a REALLY close up shot of someone). So you would zoom out a bit which reduce the amount of background blur
@@TheRealRichardWong so technically, with super zoom having f2.8 or f2.9 on wide, is it better to shoot closer or move further away from the subject and make use of the zoom to get to 80-200mm?
Hello, thank you very much for the video, I have a question, I am looking for a camera with good optical zoom but I want it to make 4K videos that I can mix with other 4K videos.. What do you recommend, the Canon SX70... the Nikkon P950 or this camera? which recently came onto the market...thank you very much...greetings from Chile
hi there, sorry it's a bit hard for me to comment as it depends on a lot of things like what is the other camera you use, how you shoot with this camera..etc. I think the FZ80D can capture great quality video during the day, apart from the jitters i mentioned in the review. I don't have much experience with the SX70 myself but the P950 is a nice camera and provides longer reach. But downside with the P950 is that it's a more expensive and bigger camera so there is a tradeoff. Note while i have done a review of the P950 that was many years ago and i haven't compare the footage of the P950 with this camera side by side
I own a HX400, I am searching for a modern alternative with similar zoom. Is this one better? Or is HX400 simlar/better?
Thank you for this review, i have the fz82 and am going to upgrade. As the fz82d doesnt have wifi can i transfer photos to my phone usb c to usb c?
Sorry i have not tested it so I can't answer (already returned the camera)
Ok thank you
Own the Panasonic FZ200/300 and 1000. Was hoping for an upgrade from the FZ300 with a Leica lens again and give it the model name DMC FZ-400.
I had an FZ72 for several years and I have always regretted disposing of it and going to Sony. I think I will be getting one of these, though the wider angle aspect of it means more to me than long telephoto. I have big hand ands the body of the FZ72 always sat well in theme. For my needs I think would be sensible cost effective choice.
My last superzoom was Nikon P1000, it was good back.
No focus range limiter or preMF setting ?
not sure about preMF setting. But it has a macro and normal AF setting, the normal AF setting is kind like focus range limiter as it stops the camera from focusing very close.
What is the benefit of this over the FZ330?
Only the 20-1200 mm range. The fz330's Leica 24-600mm Constant Aperture f2.8 lens is better.
I had a Canon 560HS with basically similar specs, same sensor size, 21-1360mm optical zoom. I decided to go for an M50m2 for these reasons: The small sensor. Aperture range at tele was 1 stop, at wide 2.5 stops, not good enough. I hated the motorized zoom, always over or under shooting. Then it had no touch screen but that i.s resolved with most of the new cameras. Basically I wanted a greater range of options and better image quality. IMO lenses over 400mm are for special cases and are difficult when used hand held both in terms of camera shake and following moving objects.
Yes fair enough good reasons
This is awesome. I have the FZ300 and FZ2500. I never thought a new bridge camera would be developed after these. ❤
I have the S5ii but take the FZ2500 when I want to travel light.
Me neither. But good to see them coming back!
9:43, why is her zipper so big?
LOL I have a bag with an even bigger zip!
Not better having a fz2000 although is older?
Why not a new fz3000 after many years?
Thank you for your review and it was on this basis that I purchased the EU version - FZ82D. This version does NOT come with a PSU or a USB-C cable. My pet hate is lack of HDMI output unless in playback mode. This means you can't use a front facing monitor for Vlogging which is infuriating!
it would be good. if it could hold sun blocker (i dont know how its called in english) and filters
Extremely well-done and fast-paced review. Big decision FZ300 or FZ80D. What we need is a new FZ300D.
thank you David!
When I heard of this camera I was excited to be able to take it to the worlds largest airshow in Oshkosh Wisconsin but then was disappointed it doesn’t come out until after that. Not too disappointed though as I’ll be shooting with the Sony A9III with the Sigma 500mm f/5.6
Awesome review!!! Thank you so much!!
Good review. Not sure if there's enough to justify upgrading from the original FZ82. Why drop the WiFi option in 2024? It seems a very strange decision
A few improvements from the original, it's just a shame they didn't add an articulating screen, or even a tilting one. But then I suppose they might be worried it would impact sales of the FZ300 if they did that. A very informative and thorough review, great work!
I think the reason they didn't add articulated screen is that they will need to design a new shell, and other changes required as a result which will drive the cost and hence price up further. Then it maybe hard for people to justify paying so much more as the sensor/lens etc appears to be same as the original version
Lightweight Super Zoom == Super Fun, if it's has sharp quick auto focus it will be good, I hope they fix that weird shuddering roller shutter that coming through on your video footage before they release the camera
We still use the Panasonic FZ330 bridge camera. Zoom range 24 to 600 mm but with constant F 2.8 Aperture. Has a flip screen.
No motivation to change to this bridge camera.
Its smaller, lighter, cheaper with twice the range. F2.8 means nothing coz image is still garbage compared even to micro43.
Hi Richard, but not there is any difference with the previous model? Only a D in the name? 😅
hmm i did list the difference in the review :P
@@TheRealRichardWong but there is not nothing of important. After 7 years... 😔 They could have improved at least a few more important aspects. I insert an effective electronic stavikization. or review the fz300 which has a much more interesting optics with constant f2.8 aperture. an fz 2000 with phase af and the new stabilization system would be the best. 🥳
yes agree. This is really a "facelift" i.e. minor update. I would LOVE to see more changes. Unfortunately the problem with just adding one or two feature means there are usually a lot of under the hood changes required. Hopefully we will see new version of Panasonic's other point and shoot/bridge cameras with more improvements in the near future
the most interesting thing is the zoom which starts from 20mm. However, I would have preferred a 1 inch sensor with a 20-600 lens
finally a good bridge camera at a good price point. I thought they were a thing of the past... Crazy to see how expensive very old bridge camera were going second hand!!
Can i use this as a zero experience person on photography?
I would say yes, camera like this has fully automatic mode. Just be aware this is not the best camera for night.
@@TheRealRichardWong So what is best zoom camera for night? I dont have too much budget. Max 1k$ 🥹
Thanks!
For that budget, it maybe best to look at a second hand mirrorless camera with a nice quality kit lens. There are many options but it would be hard to recommend a particular one
@@burakozc3079 Zoom and Night are not good partners. A used Sony a6100 or a6300 with a fast Viltrox or 7/TT Artisans autofocus lens with a wide f1.x aperture would be a good start. There are hundreds of affordable lenses for those Sonys.
good review. It's nice to see panasonic keeping this line alive. I hope they add more computational photography features like high resolution mode or HDR RAW through multishot, or even Dynamic Range boost like g9ii. There's definitely a market for high end small sensor camera when you need a lot of Depth of Field (think product photography)
yes let's see if this FZ80D sells well or not as it could give confidence to Panasonic for investing more into this kind of cameras!
I really like the picture quality
Will be cool to compare this with Canon SX70.
really hate that the screen is fixed. would be super helpful to be able to adjust/turn/angle it.
Can we attach a lens hood with it? I had a Nikon B500 before. I am happy bridge cameras are coming from the ashes. Nikon also has registered a model, which is an upgrade of the P1000. I guess, Canon will upgrade its Powershot series soon.
Not sure if there is a factory lens hood. But you can get a screw on lens hood that attach to the front filter thread
I subscribe because you nailed the details.
I tried to buy their Japanese version FZ85D in Tokyo but unfortunately the camera menu is only available in Japanese.
My buddy advised not to buy a camera with such a small Censor. 😅
Another reason is that the Japanese local manufacturing standard is higher than the export version. 😢
Wish they updated the sensor to at least a new 1/2.3 sensor
It would be cool if Panasonic put this lens on their camcorders. Like an HC-X series with 60x zoom.
Anyone help me to take portrait baground blurd photo in this cam
Shoot with the lens zoom in as much as you can and at widest aperture (small f number)
Small sensor, yet great casual photos in decent light…hmmm. Would you need anything else…except maybe your phone as an EDC?
Very very good job, congratulations and thank you ❤️
Thank you
Good video 😊 do u have wifi in that lumix ?
@@rubeeprod thanks but no wifi on this camera
I hope they add that zoom assist to all their cameras, it seems like a nice idea.
oh you mean via firmware update? or future models? I agree it's a nice handy feature!
But why such a small sensor in a brand new camera?
Same as FZ80/82. Just few minor updates but rest is the same. No reason to upgrade from "old" model.
Amazing zoom!
When I was younger I was always amazed at how movies could zoom so close or far compared to my Nikon 200mm lens
200mm is NOTHING LOL
@@TheRealRichardWong Hello from New Zealand!!
Hey Richard, i have a question, why some people especially the youtuber and people like to spend money, doesnt just use camera like this or a Panasonic HC-X1500 camcorder when they want to shoot wild animal photo and video, they do it mostly in day time and at most just in evening, the image quality womt be much different, just less overexpore in some area and more contrast, they often do it for fun too, some even just take video of them, hence, why they still choose bigger sensor mirrorless, is it because lf the hype and not much marketing for these kind of bridge camera ans camcorder which make tjem forgotten?
I can't speak of everyone, but for myself, I need to shoot both photos and cameras with my camera and I shoot at day time, night time. So a large sensor camera would be better choice for me. If I use a camcorder, I would still need to buy/carry a separate photo camera. The mirrorless camera is usually where you find the latest technology first. like the latest image stabilisation system.
@@TheRealRichardWong yeah, I learned it's about compromise or else everyone will just get a medium format camera, higher size better image quality but less things you can do or go smaller with lower quality but more things you can do or you go for the middle, but I think even if you get a mirrorless you still need to change lens, this is my still planning setup, which one do you think make more sense?:
1) Xperia 1 VI (for 2X macro, 16,24,48,85-170) with Zf 28-400mm f4-8
2) Xperia 1 VI with Zf with a prime with HC-X1500 25-600mm
3) Xperia 1 VI + Hasselblads with a 25mm (20mm FF eq, plan to use it with crop 2X to 50mm), Zf with 70-180mm / 28-400mm and HC-X1500
I like to shoot artistic photo for fun, contest and gig if I get to land on any, I like video and dreamed to get a camcorder since teen age but they don't have much new release now, also I learned that you can have one that do a lot but might have compromise and you will need to good at shifting your mind for different task while using the same thing or else you will be like get off work but still in work place and mind kind of feel, but more things mean you need to take care more things
Zf is an awesome camera, I'm considering getting one for myself! But if you do plan to shoot video quite a bit, i would suggest the S5II or S5IIx instead as that's a much better video camera and also offer some photo feature the Zf can't provide.
9:43 The zip on the jacket. Is it really that big in real life ? Damn I want a jacket with a zip that big. Looks awesome :)
LOL yes it is the biggest zip in the world!
I'm rather confused about why Panasonic even bothered with this release. This follows the same theme as the G100D, a similar rehash of a camera with only a new EVF and USB-C port. Still, these cameras are better to have as options rather than nothing at all.
I believe Panasonic has to replace some components to continue manufacturing, so they use the opportunity to update it with new EVF, new LCD, USB-C port and add the new zoom compose assist. So I think of it as a facelift model that car manufacturers usually do to their cars
@@TheRealRichardWong Agree...though this facelift is long, long overdue compared to that of cars. As such, I do not feel the need to upgrade mine, as I have gotten used to it just fine and will hold on to it for as long as I can.
the sensor is 4:3
when shooting even 1080p video OF COURSE there is a crop to 16:9 so focal length is no longer 20mm (at 4:3 sensor). it becomes 22mm
Yes i agree, but it doesn't seem to do that when shooting with Panasonic's micro four thirds cameras which is also 4:3
Saweet! Ill have to watch later. I seen you mentioned Bridge on Geeky Nerdy. Very intresting !🎉Thank You
LOL yes. I was like yes i know that word because i've been working on a bridge camera review
I got the older one. The lcd and evf is the only dif what i can see between fz80dvs fz80.🫡
Thanks. What a shame about that awful jitter making it unusable for video which basically makes it just a stills camera. Panasonic should have corrected that with this updated model, thats just lazy. Might as well just get a used FZ series camera and save a lot of money.
I like what they've done, but they could have gone much farther. An external microphone port, larger sensor, higher resolution, greater aperture range. This is a step up, but more of a baby step.
This is a very interesting release by Panasonic. Some odd decisions like dropping the WiFi in 2024! 😂 I'm tempted to get one for my son to get into photography without going for a mirrorless camera with interchangeable lenses.
Thanks for the detailed review 👍🏻
Yeah who need wifi ? 😅🤣. Yes i can see it can be useful for younger people to get them to get into photography without buying a mirrorless camera and all the lenses
Where is the FZ82D review???
FZ82F and FZ80D are the same camera , just different model number for different market
That’s a very unexpected but welcome camera! If the price is right I might get one!
I see B and H listed it at $477. So it's about 15% more than the original FZ80 launch price.
@@TheRealRichardWong just got an email from an Australian retailer - they want $849 for it!! That’s just a couple of hundred dollars less than the outgoing Nikon P950 and P1000 on sale. I don’t think they’re going to be selling many units for that price!
Cant believe he didn't say how many megapixels if 18mp like the old one or what...
oh true! How did i miss that!
As you said you can achieve great results with this camera when it is sunny but otherwise the image quality is very poor
I have the Sony Equivalent to this camera and I also have the original Panasonic LUMIX DMC-FZ1000. So I don't get anyone's excitement about Panasonic bringing back the even smaller sensor Camera. It's going to cost about $480. I would not advise any newcomer to go back in time to those Tiny Sensor Cameras. Nothing less then 1 inch sensors cameras is Bare Bones these days. So I would rather see Panasonic focus far more on version 3 of the FZ1000. That and the LX100M, also version 3. I can't believe there is STRONG demand again for Tiny Sensor Cameras when folks already have their so called Smart Phones.
Different cameras for different users. For a lot of people, camera like this FZ80D provides similar or even better image quality than their phones (not everyone have latest iPhone) and allow them to zoom all the way to 1200mm focal length that phones can't do.
@@TheRealRichardWong I am quite aware of the different camera for different users. I am also quite aware that most buyers of this Camera will be ignorant to the fact of how low quality the images will be coming out of this camera. Let me repeat, I still have the Sony Cyber-shot DSC-HX400V Digital Camera with the 20.4MP 1/2.3" Exmor R CMOS Sensor with the 24-1200mm Equiv. Focal Length. Zooming out to 1200 is meaningless if the quality ends up being very poor. And I assure that is mostly what most folks will be getting. Most would be far better off buying used MFTs gear. Which by way, you know Panasonic also makes.
@@natureredux1957 thank you for bringing attention to the photo quality, i was about to get one actually either that or the fz1000 ii , if you were to recommend a beginner like me for a bridge camera in 2024 which one do you think will better suit a beginner, or should i just jump to mirrorless altogether, I'm just a hobbyist and this'll be my first. thank you in advance
@@alis1079 If your primary subjects are wildlife, and your budget would allow it, I would at the very least start out with a APS-C camera and determine just what amount your budget would allow for lens. If not, then the Fz1000ii is decent for getting your Feet wet but not nearly in the same class as the Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX10 IV which has the same size sensor but will cost you almost Double the Price. But most Sony products will give you better AF. Which will be important. Then there is the used Market. Hobbyist don't have to RUSH in, so just take your time deciding and keep in mind that the upcoming Holiday Black Friday, there will be massive Camera Sales. It will be here before you know it.
@@natureredux1957 thank you so much, that cleared a lot for me
nikon p1000 still wins?
in terms of zoom yes. But FZ80D is cheaper,smaller and lighter. So it depends on what you want. (and P1000 is discontinued too i think)
oh ***** I shall have to save and get one now. I thought that was it, no more new bridge cameras. And I do love one to use instead of long heavy lenses on my other camera.
the zoom with the girl was super interesting.