I say the Overlord from Overlord 1, he was a hero that fought the previous overlord and became literally a fallen hero by grabbing his foe and plunging them both to the bottom of a tower. After that, creatures called minions healed his body and he became the new overlord and conquered all the land while killing the other 7 heroes off that helped him
No honorable mention for Handsome Jack? He was a good guy with good intentions (Borderlands The Pre-sequel) and slowly became corrupt with everything his friends did to him (ending of Borderlands The Pre-sequel). He WANTED to be a good guy, but all his so called "friends" betrayed him. He was amazingly developed and he became quite awesome.
Martin Ipsen He wasn't good though because he always had the intention of trying to take over pandora and destroying the bandits from space, it was one of the reasons he tricked the OG vault hunters into opening the vault and hence why he had the destroyer's eye as a weapon on board the space station, he was never truly a good guy everything he did was to serve his own purpose, yes the vault on elpis corrupted him but he was already corrupted before that and a lot of the stuff he does in Pre-sequel (before they betray him) shows that,
Ace Darkheart I think his taunting of the players all through the expansion made him a great villain. Also, I am glad he refrained from Mr. Freeze style puns a la Arnold Schwarzenegger in Batman and Robin.
Ace Darkheart I dont think they should of put out WOTLK so soon. Its like they took two of the most fan favorited villians (Arthas and Illidan) and killed them off with the first two expansions. I could honestly give two craps about the burning legion because those two characters were so much MORE to us, the players.
I'm surprised that handsome jack from borderlands didn't make it in this list, he's by far my favorite villain and he was a good guy during the events in the presequel
How the fuck is Big Boss not on this! Like seriously! I was so sure he would be number one. He is arguably one of the most iconic and important video game characters. Like seriously!!
especially after playing metal gear solid 3 and portable ops, he rescues so many people and is a war hero, then decides to take revenge against those who betray him and so he becomes a terrorist, not the best path but a brilliant and noble motive
if you pay attention to Big Boss he sufferd the same fate The Boss(aka the joy) snakes mentor had she was a hero used by politics snake just dose whats in his power to change the world.
if you play MGS4 they say that the Boss on outer heaven aka (mgsNes) was not Big boss but a clone, eva tells you they have Big boss remains but it was a lie, those remains where a clone and not the real thing. So no Big Boss was never a Bad guy.
Artorias was never a villain, he was just another victim of the Abyss you had to mercy kill. He was literally corrupted RIGHT as you come into his boss area. He was FIGHTING against the corruption up until that point The Lore around Artorias was fabricated by Anor Londo because, they didn't want the people to know one of the four Knights was corrupted by the Abyss. So gotta say big negative for the Artorias entry; not a villain, just another victim boss of Dark Souls.
+XenoJehuty84 Almost exactly. My interpretation is that he was defeated and corrupted inside the abyss, when he sacrificed himself using his shield to save Sif. So, yes, he's a victim, it was not his choice to become a "bad" guy... They didn't get it right into the video, but when you meet him, he is this corrupted a long time ago version of himself, without self will or anything like that, like a zombie of the abyss.
Guvna Goeby Look, I am not trying to be a dick or anything. When that is said, I did only watch half of this video and then nothing else on the channel. Just looking at people spew their oppinions on a game is boring enough but couple that with their appearance, and you don't really have a winning cocktail in my oppinion
I don't think these guys understand what happened to Artorias. He didn't really "fall to the dark side" like Darth Vader did. Darth Vader made the choices that led him to be evil. Artorias, by definition to the best of my memory, was so far on the light side that as soon as the Abyss touched him, he had no chance against it. It essentially infected him and corrupted his soul into a mindless killer.
matthew corrie Hm, not too much. She's much more of a villain in Brood War. In WoL she's more a normal antagonist as she doesn't really do... anything that villainy. Apart from standard Zerg planetary destruction.
Not in more recent games, no. But in Metal Gear 1 & 2, he's the quintessential villain. And the purpose of MGSV's darker story is to show us his transition from hero to villain.
kopopo23 I'd like to disagree, but in all honesty I seriously hope you're right. XD In any case, despite Kojima constantly trying to convince us that BB is super bad now, none of the footage we've seen really supports that. :P
SalmonOfK84 kojima started off BB as a bad guy but he's progressively made him a more "good guy" so to speak, as the series progresses. it's in mgs3 and onward that shows his true motives and intentions and really blurs the lines of good and evil; no right or wrong, just who's side you're on.
I remember reading somewhere that Arthas the Lich King was based on Siegfried from Soul Calibur the only difference between them is that Arthas let himself be possessed/controlled by the sword while Siegfried was sort of against it (although Soul Edge told him he could revive his father or something like that)
*Spoilers alert? :D* What's REALLY awesome about Artorias is that even if he fell victim to the corruption, he fights you for *2* possible reasons: 1. The first reason might be that Manus sent him to stop you, which would be the obvious one. 2. He fights you to prevent you from suffering the same thing that happened to him. Notice that when he enters the "arena" he kills that monster. He could've tagged along easily with the monster to fight with you since he's also a product of Manus. If you look on the Wiki you will see some deleted Artorias quotes which point out to the *2nd* reason - he tries to save you. So does Sif. You can see this better if you play the DLC before the boss fight with Sif. If you do that, he sniffs Artorias's smell on you AND you, because you meet him in the DLC to fight manus along with the grey wolf. Sif wants to prevent you from taking the ring because, as Artorias, he wants to stop you from having the same fate as his faithful companion Artorias did. THIS is why Artorias is and will be one of the greatest boss battles and character in game that I've ever and will ever meet.
All of it was basically right. Just the fact that he wasn't corrupted until you met him. He was fighting it off but he was too weak to continue. He had one broken arm from his fight with Manus. When he looks at you when you enter, he tries to warn you to leave before he got corrupted by the darkness.
Well I might have gotten a little bit of the last part wrong but still, he is somehow still trying to warn you/protect you from what's about to come. Thanks for making it clear, though! :D
Angelo Petrillo By all mean, i don't mean the game is bad or anything. Heck i don't even play WoW pass the vanilla (have too much shit to do, can't devote in that massive game. Plus, i'm poor). But i do read about the lore now and again, and in my opinion the best part is Arthas portion. And now that he is dead, i lost a lot of interest in that universe in general. I'm not gonna judge anyone, because your opinion are your own. And mine simply is "I got bored because my favorite character died." *shrug* P.S: Don't include me in those people that says "Eh Mah Geh, Blizzard! Y u mak bad expansion!". Honestly, i don't care about that argument.
Shinigami Sama to an extent i agree when i played WoW when i was young lich king was the shit the whole story behind arthas and just the lich king in general was amazing but i still think that blizzard have done a good job keeping WoW alive throughout the years instead of completely ruining it
Will Tyquin True that for each individual tale, they are pretty good. But with the entire lore as a whole, it isn't the same without the old Scourge, the Lich King and his vile blade. As someone who played through Warcraft 3 and TFT, i know that Arthas is one of the key role and main focus, the one man that trigger many events destined to re-shape Azeroth itself. In general, they could have done so much more with the Lich King. You know, instead of let him sit on his ass for god know how long in his castle, being an NPC that give out quests, and then constantly being mauled by raid parties days and nights. Sure, it would eventually become 'character milking', but it doesn't feel like so *yet*. Another thing that bother me in WoW is that major characters doesn't do jack shit, most of the time (until an event trigger a cutscene). For instance, the old Death Knight Arthas would of personally lead his troops and raid the heck out of the Alliance and anything that breath, for that matter.
Artorias's story was pretty darn sad, he went to stop the abyss, but he was taken by the thing he fought. HEY, at least he still looks pretty awesome as a boss!
+Tenzin Szabo Yeah I was going to say what about the dark wanderer in D2, aka the hero from D1. Literally the entire game of D2 is the story of his fall and decent into madness!
+Tenzin Szabo The sad thing is, if you research a bit, you find out all three playable characters from Diablo 1 became villains...and all 3 are killed by the D2 cast!
but isnt that the awesome twist of the series, the heroes become the villians and then the cycle seems to repeat with diablo 2 and the destruction of the world stone etc etc
+Tenzin Szabo Since this is already spoiler territory, gonna throw bits from first Diablo most fans these days aren't as much aware. Aidan, or the dark wanderer as he is called in Diablo II, was the son of King Leoric, or as we know him, the skeleton king (who, I might add, could easily be on this list too... especially if you account what you find from him in Diablo III). Aidan also killed his little brother while fighting Diablo who embodied the young boy after Lazarus inserted the big demon lord's soulstone on the poor boy's forehead, and proceeds in an act one can only call hubris, to attempt controlling Diablo's essence himself, thus becoming the dark wanderer. Also in the Diablo universe worthwhile mentions of good guys turning bad: Tal Rasha, sacrificing himself to become the prison of Baal... and failing miserably, becoming host instead. Zoltun Kulle, who is probably one of the best characters in Diablo III... starting out faintly noble Horadric mage, only to be corrupted by lust for power and to become the unkillable terror he is. Izual, the shining lieutenant of Tyriel, who again, in hubris led an attack on the Hellforge, getting captured and corrupted in prisonment, thus becaming the most fearsome fallen angel before... Malthael, not going to spoil this one, if anyone reading hasn't played through Diablo III and especially Reaper of Souls, do so. Those who have know exactly what I mean, this also applies to all the angels under the charge of wisdom, so cool and so damn well written. And of course Blood Raven and The Summoner as mentioned by others on this post, in-lore fighting alongside Aidan only to become maddened monsters themselves. Even a few quite well fleshed out minor ones, like the guy Kormac is hunting when you meet him in the depths of old Tristram cathedral. Or the ruling council of Zakarum, the high priests in Diablo II. Pretty sure one could come up with other characters as well, because Diablo is chock full of great tragic characters becoming the very thing they tried to stop, but I'm sure others will add up to this :) People give Stracraft and Warcraft much praise for their writing, and for good reason. But I still thing Diablo saga as a whole is the best of the bunch, even though much of the writing has sort of faded into the background due to the way the games tend to represent it.
Cloud is boring? As a main hero in a Final Fantasy, he's one of the most complicated in the entire 30 year history of the franchise. I would say the original game could have done better in revealing how fucked up he was psychologically and emotionally quite a bit sooner than just before the end of the game...but that doesn't change the fact of Cloud's character and his overall fragmented psyche. Still, as clliche as it is, Sephiroth is a pretty awesome villain, so I give you points for that at least.
Going for a lesser known character, I'd like to bring up Orsted from the Japan-only game Live A Live. Live A Live is a JRPG with a chess-like battle system that follows several separate stories from different time periods. After you beat all the other stories, Orsted's story is unlocked. His story starts out how you expect, a medieval knight trying to save the princess from a demon. As his journey continues, though, things just get worse and worse, with every action of his resulting in the death and destruction of everyone and everything he cares about. The end result is that he eventually embraces that fate, taking on the name and power of the demon and threatening all of time, resulting in the heroes from all the other stories assembling in his time to put an end to his threat. Bonus points for the option to play as Orsted in the end, thus giving the player the chance to play as each chapter's final boss and wail on the heroes, in one case even having the option to destroy everything with the push of a button. Great way of building his menace.
I feel like (handsome) Jack can get into here quite easily due to Pre-Sequel, of course there is always the possibility that Vault Hunters aren't exactly heroes but whatever (everyone addresses them as some form of bandit, their practices appear shady at times)
+Swiggity Swooty why , thats such a stupid thing to say . stop being a sheep i bet you go to starbucks and have a apple phone WINK WINK . try to let people live there lives how they want its to short to do something just make losers like you that are nothing in the big scheme of things happy. you do know some people that size are more healthy then a lot of these disgusting people that go overboard working out taking 5 different powder drinks a day and pills every other hour and thats health . you do know people of that size ar the norm for western society try doing research were spoiled and have to much its a overwieght society. as real doctors say dont go into the opposite of working out you do exercise but lifting weights and getting big is far from healthy and is far far more unnatural to the human body then being fat. these PC losers these days thinking every one needs to look how they do are fucking sick
+Swiggity Swooty I agree. And i say this as someone taht loves games, and because of it just sits too much. God last year i ran 10km every 2nd day, now i cant get off my ass got 10kg more :D
+Swiggity Swooty Different values and commitments for different people. Some people don't give a flying fuck about their weight, as coping with it might interfere too much with what they like to do. Essentially, not working out isn't "wrong" but a preference.
+Illuminati Confirmed Dude the love of his life fucking betrays him destroying something he worked so hard to obtain while attempting to kill him and some of his best friends are in on it. I think I would turn a little fucking evil too
Thank you for Arthas. His story is by far the most in depth and interesting in gaming. If you don't know the story of Arthas, I highly recommend that you go and learn about him. It's too interesting too be left alone.
Loghain from Dragon Age: Origins. At the beginning of the game, he's established as a war hero who rose from humble beginnings to being former King Maric's greatest friend and ally. He's also fiercely nationalistic and puts the good of Ferelden above all else (though he's deluded into thinking that the neighbouring nation of Orlais combined with the new king's weak leadership is Ferelden's greatest threat). He's a villain but his motivations aren't selfish. He truly thinks he's doing what's best.
+Phlebas Like I said in my own comment, you fully get how he became such. Loghain saw such horrible things during the occupation that even the Darkspawn do not seem as evil to him as Orlais. Which is why I was glad to see an option for him to redeem himself. . . Which I guess might have disqualified him from the list.
6:05 for the abyss walker he almost seems to be a living representation the quote, "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."
Deorman So resurrecting the main character so he can fight the villains is a bad thing? He only became a bad guy at the end of ME2 and was indoctrinated (or what).
Lerquiy of Nirlac He didn't do this because it was good but because it was his best option to fight the reapers, the fact that they were also his opponent doesn't make him good. You got a clear grasp at Cerberus motivation and methods since ME1.
Deorman That was just one section of the organization. They have good people who actually work for the betterment of humanity and the Illusive man was one of them before the reapers' corruption.
They don't work for the betterment of humanity but for the supremacy of humanity, not the same thing. And you come across numerous cells of the organization in ME 1, ME 2 and they are all worst each time, all under supervision of one man, Illusive man. There are some decent people in the cell Miranda and Jacobs runned but they aren't so clean either.
GLaDOS But Alex Mercer was never really good, yes he suffered from Amnesia but as you regain memories you realize he was never an good guy, he was always the main antagonist.
+István “Tobifan4ever” Czene Atleast a 3rd of WoWs fans would disagree and say Illidan beats Arthas. I think they're both tied as amazing fallen heroes honestly, loved both of them. Can't wait to see Illidan again in Legion, just gotta update my pc to meet the new fucking mimimum requirements...
+Jordan Cantrell I'd like to see those statistics. Regardless, from a story perspective, the case that Arthas's fall from being a hero is stronger. Illidan's tale is one of unrequited love and, upon it not being returned, choosing to pursue power - perhaps why it might be able to garner so much sympathy. Don't get me wrong, Illidan's story was done in a fantastic way and I empathize with his character; unreturned love leaves a terrible void in one's heart and most people would do anything to fill it with something else and I think Illidan's choice is very fitting. That said, Arthas's motivations are much more grand and truly moving. Where all of Illidan's motivations were self-driven Arthas has been motivated heavily to do right by his people. Never were his intentions about him, but about serving those he represented. This is a strong theme of his upbringing in more than one way. As heir to the throne there was a burden on Arthas to learn that a King must ever serve their people, a theme that Terenas touches on more than once during WotLK; meanwhile, as a paladin his code of conduct was to aid those ever less fortunate than he, who truly needed aid in a world that would give none. His entire ascent to power was not for the sake of curing a broken heart, or a lust for power, but to have the strength to protect his people from whatever would do them harm. But he shouldered that burden alone, even forgoing the love he felt for Jaina, to do what he felt was a King's duty. It can even be argued that as the Lich King Arthas continued seeking to do right as he saw it. Rather than waging a genocidal slaughter as a surface look would suggest, Scourge writings within WoW strongly imply that the Scourge's goal was the unification of Azeroth in the event of another Legion invasion. A unified world would stand a better chance than one divided.
Thats way too much shit to read first off. Secondly, you can't forget what happened to Illidan. After helping to save the planet from the burning legion, having his love shot down, he even helped save the planet again after being imprisoned only to be betrayed yet again by his own brother and the woman he loves. They call Illidan the betrayer, but in reality he's been betrayed more by the two people he loved most then he has betrayed anyone else.
To be honest... i'm not sure Gabriel should be on this list. Playing through the two games, he never REALY did anything evil. Sure he killed a bunch of templars and others, but that would just count as self defense. They invaded HIS castle and attacked him, whet were they expecting. And when he killed the girl, he was controlled with that mask, not realy his fault. The way i see it, he's more of an anti-hero who took on the burden of those curses (the gauntlet, the sins, the vampirism) because someone had to.
wat? Artorias didn't turn bad, he isn't a darth vader. He was corrupted by the abyss and his body was forced to move by the will of humanity, not of his own. Hes not a fallen hero turned bad guy, hes possesed.
The Horde of awsome Illidan was never actually evil, though. He was kinda minding his own business in another world and hiding from the Legion and we burst in on his party.
+Iron Tager BB never wanted to be good or bad, he is a guy who wanna fight his own war and die for what he believed in. This is only changed slightly in MGSV.
My thoughts exactly. A fallen Hero, betrayed by his fellows, and left for dead. So, he takes the mantel of being an Overlord. And goes on to WRECK the world of the Overlord series. Whilst he may have not been as Evil as his son in Overlord 2, He had better intentions and a more humble beginning.
WoW really does expand on Arthas by showing as still kind of a hero. The thing is, the Lich King controls the Scourge not just in a sense that he decides which battles they fight, but also by keeping them in line. If it wasn't for Arthas, the Scourge would've swept over Azeroth in a chaotic killing spree, but with Arthas keeping them on a leash, they mostly stayed in Northrend.
According to the official canon ending of kotor, he returns to the light..sorta.. more like he finds balance and achieves an unparalleled mastery of both the light and dark sides of the force, thus becoming the star wars universe equivalent of a living god. Then there's the swtor expac surrounding his return and attempt to purge the galaxy of both the republic and the sith to put an end to their centuries long war... less of a villain, more of an antihero
As someone that plays Dark Souls, I feel in needs to be mentioned. Artorius didn't fall. He was corrupted via something akin to an infection. He was a hero that essentially traversed the darkest parts of humanity and eventually was overwhelmed by them. The thing fought isn't so much him as it is the literal husk of what is left after the dark consumed him.
It may be a bit old but Legacy of Kain's Kain is a must of this list to me. From a knight to a vampire seeking revenge to becoming the bad vampire king was quite a turn I think.
+Gʀᴀʏ Fᴏx Wait but I thought it was the other way around? He started off as a pawn and ended rebelling against the powers that be and gets killed by someone stuck in the same cycle? Wouldn't that be bad to good?
I think Salem from Army of Two should be on there cause he goes rogue in Army of Two: Devil's Cartel when his partner's leave him for dead after the truck he was driving blows up.
he was always evil he just didnt tell until the end...thats why he made a team look for the vault, because he wants to become the strongest or the richest
he made a team for the vault then when he got there he almost got the power and yeah i did play the pre sequel he was just bit nicer before but still evil
He turned evil. In the very beginning he doesnt even really want to kill anyone. Then everyone started freakin betraying him, and he just started to go nuts. Hell, everyone would go nuts. Jack WAS a good guy. Definetely. And he thought he still was until the bitter end...
The thing about wheatley that I found most interesting was that it wasn't just the programs designed to make GladOS, well, GladOS, that changed him. His entire exchange during that cutscene shows there was more to it than that. "Tiny little wheatley did all this!" The entire time, he was struggling with a sense of worthlessness, with feelings of having never been appreciated. He worked and he worked, and in many ways, you wouldn't have made it out without him, but he never gets any thanks. All of the times he took a leap of faith, taking the risk that the lies he was told that he would die if he did certain things may be true, just to get you out, never once do you thank him, or even speak to him. He feels worthless, unloved, and empty. And then, he gets power. Lots of it. He's not useless anymore, he's important! But then GladOS needles him, insults him. "You didn't do anything, she did all the work." That's what truly pushed him over the edge, beyond any measures put in place in the system itself. He fell to far more than a few lines of code, and that's my favorite part. Despite being a machine, he displays the most natural and human fall to villainy out of any villains I can really think of.
Honestly a favorite of mine was Roarke from Call Of Duty Ghost who was left to die but returns as leader of the rebel forces.He gets shot in the stomach and survives a train that crashes into the ocean to take you away from your brother to make you a rebel also.
Darth Vader and Darth Tyranus from Star Wars... Oh wait. Never mind. Star Wars is a movie. Still, Anakin Skywalker was pretty boring (except in parts of the Phantom Meanace) until he became Darth Vader.
Starlord1954 DX The ending was actiony, but I got bored during most of his scenes with Padme. I'm sure there were some other parts where he was fun, but I don't really remember most of episodes II or III. Last time I saw it was a long time ago (in a galaxy far far away).
Starlord1954 DX I think I kinda remember that. My dad is a huge the originals were better than the prequels person, so I never got much chance to see the prequels, and thus I don't remember much. Except for the Darth Maul thing and the podrace in the first one. The only thing I remember not liking was Jar Jar, though. I found him a bit annoying.
+Jarsia Actually, yes and no. He was a jedi who rebelled in order to help fight in a war against the Mandalorians. After his side wins the war, he learns about the Sith Emperor and tries to kill him alongside his not-really Padawan Malak. The Emperor was too strong for them and brainwashed them both into becoming Sith and going back into the known galaxy while the Emperor remained hidden. Then he had his mind wiped by the Jedi and canonically became good again. Then he got kicked out of the Jedi AGAIN because he got married to Bastilla, who also got kicked out. THEN he vaguely remembers the Emperor, meets Lord Scourge who is part of a plan to betray and kill the Emperor, tries to fight him again, and gets betrayed by Scourge. Instead of getting brainwashed again, he's locked up in a hidden prison for hundreds of years, mentally fighting against the Emperor's will while being sustained by the Emperor's power. He's eventually freed by your character in SWTOR if you're part of the Republic, and then killed by your character if you're part of the Empire. AND THEN we find out he somehow survived it and is using a secret organization of people that worship him to try and destroy the Emperor. While that sounds good, the Emperor is recovering at the time, and is basically asleep, and in order to kill him, Revan planned to wake him up, which would cause a lot of bad shit to happen considering the Emperor's plan the entire time is to sacrifice everyone in the entire galaxy to make himself more powerful. After beating up Revan, we learn he didn't really survive, only his Dark Side did and was acting on pure hatred and rage, while his Light Side was already a force ghost. Then he finally fully dies. Revan's gone up and down on the see-saw a ton of times, but several of those times were mind control, or not even the good part of him remaining, so it shouldn't really count for this list.
What is the music call that starts at 5:16, The bit with Artorias The Abysswalker? :(Wish people would put in the discription the music they bloody use. |B(
Arthas easily number one. The idea of him trying to destroy The Scourge and becoming the very enemy he sought to destroy by taking Frostmourne was pure genius from a storytelling perspective. It only makes it even more tragic with his tale since he had good intentions before.
I'd argue Artorias isn't an villain. There was cut dialogue to show he was more of a puppet than having actually gone to the "dark side." He never wanted to fight you and he simply became a puppet of the darkness after being defeated by Manus.
Albert Wesker, The Resident Evil series. He started out as Captain of the STARS police unit, and later on he was revealed as an agent of the Umbrella Corporation and by Resident Evil 5, he exposed himself to Uroboros.
they didnt give Artorious enough credit. when you fight him, his sword is in his off hand. His dominant arm got broken protecting his companion sif. (who is his dog buddy and also a sad boss fight in the vanilla game) He went to the abyss to stop its spread, but what ultimately defeated by the lord of the abyss Manus. But he clings to life, and when you find him he is still killing the creatures of the abyss, and only fights you as a gatekeeper of sorts. so not only does he fight you with his off hand, he has no shield, and still manages to be one of the most memorable and more difficult fights in the entire franchise. Artorious is a fucking badass
I don't know if any games has Satan as a character, but he is definitely the ultimate good guy turned bad guy. He was god's right hand man, naturally a position one would assume would be filled by the most good being (excluding god), and then he became the opposite of god. He went from most good to most evil.
Man, you guys missed a big one. Big Boss from the Metal Gear Solid series. He starts out a hero, and slowly over the course of his games, you can see his transformation from Naked Snake to Big Boss. Its rather major since he's actually the main character of the series. Solid Snake is like a transitional character, holding his place, for his games, and the series does a great job of masking Big Boss as main character.
What always made me sad about Artorias is because he was corrupted so badly by the Abyss because he wanted a human. Because he was something more pure and good than a human it was easier for him to fall to the darkness.
Sigma from Mega Man X started out as the best Maverick Hunter ( or Irregular Hunter as they're sometimes called ), but became the always resurrecting badass villain. In fact, he went Maverick around the same time Zero was cured of the Maverick virus iirc....
I feel like artorias didn't really give in as theyre saying. its more of he used himself as a human shield to contain the abyss and in the process became absorbed into it. so its almost as if even when he's your enemy, the simple fact that he is corrupted is a heroic act in itself. he allowed himself to be corrupted to prevent the abyss from corrupting the world
So you missed Big Boss,Deathwing,Garrosh,Illidan,Sylvanas Windrunner,Kel'Thuzad,Sargeras(heck,you could make a top 7 list on warcraft villains alone),Handsome Jack,Comstock from Bioshock Infinite(kinda fits into this list) and i guess there are a lot of others i didn't mention....
I was hoping Gabriel would be number 1 his transformation wasn't "good is boring" it was more of him being slowly being forced to sacrifice more of himself until there was nothing left to give and he lost faith in the world and how he couldn't save his wife. I'm not doing it justice with this description. the music the animations the voice acting, his physical transformation they all make his development so briliant
And artorias' is even stronger knowing that, he is fighting you with his left arm broken and fights you with his right hand. He is a natural left handed soldier, as well as giving his shield to protect his dog.
I was really surprised how much Artorias affected people, this guy we never even knew was just there and he had fallen so far, I'm almost surprised that no separate game was created around Gwyns knights and you were artorias
GLAdos is shells mother... or she was until she got digitized... the owner of apatur sciense was dying of chanser and wanted to be made into a machine to save himself but couldent get there in time.. he left it to his assistant who he likely had a relationship (its very likely he is shells father) we can tell that this is the likely senario by various hints scattered around and then by the latin lyrics of the drone song at the end...
I'm so freaking surprised Sephiroth wasn't number one because everybody goes gaga over him (I've never been a Final Fantasy fan). Wheatley's transformation broke my heart even though he became even MORE interesting as a character.
I say the Overlord from Overlord 1, he was a hero that fought the previous overlord and became literally a fallen hero by grabbing his foe and plunging them both to the bottom of a tower. After that, creatures called minions healed his body and he became the new overlord and conquered all the land while killing the other 7 heroes off that helped him
No honorable mention for Handsome Jack? He was a good guy with good intentions (Borderlands The Pre-sequel) and slowly became corrupt with everything his friends did to him (ending of Borderlands The Pre-sequel). He WANTED to be a good guy, but all his so called "friends" betrayed him. He was amazingly developed and he became quite awesome.
Martin Ipsen He wasn't good though because he always had the intention of trying to take over pandora and destroying the bandits from space, it was one of the reasons he tricked the OG vault hunters into opening the vault and hence why he had the destroyer's eye as a weapon on board the space station, he was never truly a good guy everything he did was to serve his own purpose, yes the vault on elpis corrupted him but he was already corrupted before that and a lot of the stuff he does in Pre-sequel (before they betray him) shows that,
FUCK
Honestly after playing bltps I still like jack even though he did what he did in bl2 and bltps. Is that wrong?
Yeah, Jack had already installed his daughter into her chamber by the time Borderlands 1 started.
Not to mention the Pre-sequel wasn't out when this video was released.
You can't get more "cooler" than Arthas. Puns everywhere.
Ace Darkheart I think his taunting of the players all through the expansion made him a great villain. Also, I am glad he refrained from Mr. Freeze style puns a la Arnold Schwarzenegger in Batman and Robin.
You know it right...WoW died with Arthas...
Ace Darkheart
It isn't dead, but the latest news from Blizzard that this patch will be the last of this expansion has it on life support.
:/ Still...
Ace Darkheart I dont think they should of put out WOTLK so soon. Its like they took two of the most fan favorited villians (Arthas and Illidan) and killed them off with the first two expansions. I could honestly give two craps about the burning legion because those two characters were so much MORE to us, the players.
I'm surprised that handsome jack from borderlands didn't make it in this list, he's by far my favorite villain and he was a good guy during the events in the presequel
How the fuck is Big Boss not on this! Like seriously! I was so sure he would be number one. He is arguably one of the most iconic and important video game characters. Like seriously!!
especially after playing metal gear solid 3 and portable ops, he rescues so many people and is a war hero, then decides to take revenge against those who betray him and so he becomes a terrorist, not the best path but a brilliant and noble motive
if you pay attention to Big Boss he sufferd the same fate The Boss(aka the joy) snakes mentor had she was a hero used by politics snake just dose whats in his power to change the world.
Doruk Evcim but the lich king is just awesome and could win a fight with big boss any day (readies flame shield of the monkey)
+Doruk Evcim Big Boss was never a villian....
if you play MGS4 they say that the Boss on outer heaven aka (mgsNes) was not Big boss but a clone, eva tells you they have Big boss remains but it was a lie, those remains where a clone and not the real thing. So no Big Boss was never a Bad guy.
"you won't get cooler than Arthas as the Lich King"...quite literally, even...
Artorias was never a villain, he was just another victim of the Abyss you had to mercy kill. He was literally corrupted RIGHT as you come into his boss area. He was FIGHTING against the corruption up until that point The Lore around Artorias was fabricated by Anor Londo because, they didn't want the people to know one of the four Knights was corrupted by the Abyss.
So gotta say big negative for the Artorias entry; not a villain, just another victim boss of Dark Souls.
+XenoJehuty84 Almost exactly. My interpretation is that he was defeated and corrupted inside the abyss, when he sacrificed himself using his shield to save Sif. So, yes, he's a victim, it was not his choice to become a "bad" guy... They didn't get it right into the video, but when you meet him, he is this corrupted a long time ago version of himself, without self will or anything like that, like a zombie of the abyss.
Why do we have to look at these people whilst they talk? Show footage
Mads Andreasen but dat lazy eye though :O . it was... enchanting...
Mads Andreasen Three of the ugliest people who ever lived... and one wore a unicorn.
whisperienced As long as they enjoy making these videos and enjoy making content for their channel then that's all that truly matters.
Guvna Goeby Look, I am not trying to be a dick or anything. When that is said, I did only watch half of this video and then nothing else on the channel. Just looking at people spew their oppinions on a game is boring enough but couple that with their appearance, and you don't really have a winning cocktail in my oppinion
Fair enough.
So many Warcraft Villains were once good guys. Arthas, Illidian, Deathwing, Garrosh
***** Garrosh had always been an asshole tho
***** Arthas is a good call.
chrisb4131 I honestly teared up when doing that quest where we retrieve the locket and showed it to Lady Jaina. His humanity wasn't really lost.
Spade Krauss Call it his last gasp before succumbing to the power of the Lich and Frostmourne. he went total baddie after that.
chrisb4131 And the way he died at his father's hands lead me to think that he regretted all his actions as the Lich King. But thats just me
I don't think these guys understand what happened to Artorias. He didn't really "fall to the dark side" like Darth Vader did. Darth Vader made the choices that led him to be evil. Artorias, by definition to the best of my memory, was so far on the light side that as soon as the Abyss touched him, he had no chance against it. It essentially infected him and corrupted his soul into a mindless killer.
+zc630 Thank you I was wondering when someone would correct that.
+zc630 Not the only villain that is misunderstood on this list. Kerrigan is primarily an antihero...
+thecreator625 yes but in Wings Of Liberty you can call her a villan
matthew corrie
Hm, not too much. She's much more of a villain in Brood War. In WoL she's more a normal antagonist as she doesn't really do... anything that villainy. Apart from standard Zerg planetary destruction.
thecreator625 fair enough
No Big Boss?? RUclips, I am disappoint.
SalmonOfK84 not a villain, imo anyways
Not in more recent games, no. But in Metal Gear 1 & 2, he's the quintessential villain. And the purpose of MGSV's darker story is to show us his transition from hero to villain.
SalmonOfK84 or hero, to anti-hero ;)
kopopo23 I'd like to disagree, but in all honesty I seriously hope you're right. XD In any case, despite Kojima constantly trying to convince us that BB is super bad now, none of the footage we've seen really supports that. :P
SalmonOfK84 kojima started off BB as a bad guy but he's progressively made him a more "good guy" so to speak, as the series progresses. it's in mgs3 and onward that shows his true motives and intentions and really blurs the lines of good and evil; no right or wrong, just who's side you're on.
I remember reading somewhere that Arthas the Lich King was based on Siegfried from Soul Calibur the only difference between them is that Arthas let himself be possessed/controlled by the sword while Siegfried was sort of against it (although Soul Edge told him he could revive his father or something like that)
*Spoilers alert? :D*
What's REALLY awesome about Artorias is that even if he fell victim to the corruption, he fights you for *2* possible reasons:
1. The first reason might be that Manus sent him to stop you, which would be the obvious one.
2. He fights you to prevent you from suffering the same thing that happened to him. Notice that when he enters the "arena" he kills that monster. He could've tagged along easily with the monster to fight with you since he's also a product of Manus.
If you look on the Wiki you will see some deleted Artorias quotes which point out to the *2nd* reason - he tries to save you.
So does Sif. You can see this better if you play the DLC before the boss fight with Sif. If you do that, he sniffs Artorias's smell on you AND you, because you meet him in the DLC to fight manus along with the grey wolf. Sif wants to prevent you from taking the ring because, as Artorias, he wants to stop you from having the same fate as his faithful companion Artorias did.
THIS is why Artorias is and will be one of the greatest boss battles and character in game that I've ever and will ever meet.
beautiful😢
Almost right
Almost? Where did I go wrong? D:
All of it was basically right. Just the fact that he wasn't corrupted until you met him. He was fighting it off but he was too weak to continue. He had one broken arm from his fight with Manus. When he looks at you when you enter, he tries to warn you to leave before he got corrupted by the darkness.
Well I might have gotten a little bit of the last part wrong but still, he is somehow still trying to warn you/protect you from what's about to come.
Thanks for making it clear, though! :D
Warcraft died with Arthas.
Shinigami Sama i see what kind of person you are so.... dead game, the game sucks or blizzard ruined to favor of the casuals
Angelo Petrillo By all mean, i don't mean the game is bad or anything. Heck i don't even play WoW pass the vanilla (have too much shit to do, can't devote in that massive game. Plus, i'm poor). But i do read about the lore now and again, and in my opinion the best part is Arthas portion. And now that he is dead, i lost a lot of interest in that universe in general.
I'm not gonna judge anyone, because your opinion are your own. And mine simply is "I got bored because my favorite character died."
*shrug*
P.S: Don't include me in those people that says "Eh Mah Geh, Blizzard! Y u mak bad expansion!". Honestly, i don't care about that argument.
Shinigami Sama to an extent i agree when i played WoW when i was young lich king was the shit the whole story behind arthas and just the lich king in general was amazing but i still think that blizzard have done a good job keeping WoW alive throughout the years instead of completely ruining it
Will Tyquin True that for each individual tale, they are pretty good. But with the entire lore as a whole, it isn't the same without the old Scourge, the Lich King and his vile blade. As someone who played through Warcraft 3 and TFT, i know that Arthas is one of the key role and main focus, the one man that trigger many events destined to re-shape Azeroth itself.
In general, they could have done so much more with the Lich King. You know, instead of let him sit on his ass for god know how long in his castle, being an NPC that give out quests, and then constantly being mauled by raid parties days and nights.
Sure, it would eventually become 'character milking', but it doesn't feel like so *yet*.
Another thing that bother me in WoW is that major characters doesn't do jack shit, most of the time (until an event trigger a cutscene). For instance, the old Death Knight Arthas would of personally lead his troops and raid the heck out of the Alliance and anything that breath, for that matter.
Shinigami Sama and resurrected with heeroes of the storm
either die a hero or live long enough to become a great villain.
Artorias's story was pretty darn sad, he went to stop the abyss, but he was taken by the thing he fought. HEY, at least he still looks pretty awesome as a boss!
WHAT ABOUT THE HERO FROM DIABLO 1????!!!??? he becomes diablo himself
+Tenzin Szabo Yeah I was going to say what about the dark wanderer in D2, aka the hero from D1. Literally the entire game of D2 is the story of his fall and decent into madness!
^^^EXACTLY... is that not the greatest fallen hero story in its subtlety
+Tenzin Szabo The sad thing is, if you research a bit, you find out all three playable characters from Diablo 1 became villains...and all 3 are killed by the D2 cast!
but isnt that the awesome twist of the series, the heroes become the villians and then the cycle seems to repeat with diablo 2 and the destruction of the world stone etc etc
+Tenzin Szabo
Since this is already spoiler territory, gonna throw bits from first Diablo most fans these days aren't as much aware. Aidan, or the dark wanderer as he is called in Diablo II, was the son of King Leoric, or as we know him, the skeleton king (who, I might add, could easily be on this list too... especially if you account what you find from him in Diablo III). Aidan also killed his little brother while fighting Diablo who embodied the young boy after Lazarus inserted the big demon lord's soulstone on the poor boy's forehead, and proceeds in an act one can only call hubris, to attempt controlling Diablo's essence himself, thus becoming the dark wanderer.
Also in the Diablo universe worthwhile mentions of good guys turning bad:
Tal Rasha, sacrificing himself to become the prison of Baal... and failing miserably, becoming host instead.
Zoltun Kulle, who is probably one of the best characters in Diablo III... starting out faintly noble Horadric mage, only to be corrupted by lust for power and to become the unkillable terror he is.
Izual, the shining lieutenant of Tyriel, who again, in hubris led an attack on the Hellforge, getting captured and corrupted in prisonment, thus becaming the most fearsome fallen angel before...
Malthael, not going to spoil this one, if anyone reading hasn't played through Diablo III and especially Reaper of Souls, do so. Those who have know exactly what I mean, this also applies to all the angels under the charge of wisdom, so cool and so damn well written.
And of course Blood Raven and The Summoner as mentioned by others on this post, in-lore fighting alongside Aidan only to become maddened monsters themselves.
Even a few quite well fleshed out minor ones, like the guy Kormac is hunting when you meet him in the depths of old Tristram cathedral. Or the ruling council of Zakarum, the high priests in Diablo II.
Pretty sure one could come up with other characters as well, because Diablo is chock full of great tragic characters becoming the very thing they tried to stop, but I'm sure others will add up to this :)
People give Stracraft and Warcraft much praise for their writing, and for good reason. But I still thing Diablo saga as a whole is the best of the bunch, even though much of the writing has sort of faded into the background due to the way the games tend to represent it.
Cloud is boring? As a main hero in a Final Fantasy, he's one of the most complicated in the entire 30 year history of the franchise. I would say the original game could have done better in revealing how fucked up he was psychologically and emotionally quite a bit sooner than just before the end of the game...but that doesn't change the fact of Cloud's character and his overall fragmented psyche. Still, as clliche as it is, Sephiroth is a pretty awesome villain, so I give you points for that at least.
Nah, Cloud was boring.
@Wakasaurus Rex
He got boring when Advent Children was released.
Going for a lesser known character, I'd like to bring up Orsted from the Japan-only game Live A Live. Live A Live is a JRPG with a chess-like battle system that follows several separate stories from different time periods. After you beat all the other stories, Orsted's story is unlocked. His story starts out how you expect, a medieval knight trying to save the princess from a demon. As his journey continues, though, things just get worse and worse, with every action of his resulting in the death and destruction of everyone and everything he cares about. The end result is that he eventually embraces that fate, taking on the name and power of the demon and threatening all of time, resulting in the heroes from all the other stories assembling in his time to put an end to his threat. Bonus points for the option to play as Orsted in the end, thus giving the player the chance to play as each chapter's final boss and wail on the heroes, in one case even having the option to destroy everything with the push of a button. Great way of building his menace.
EditDeath Oersted, but yes.
I love the Armageddon spell.
EditDeath Damnit I just watched a video on that.
Awesome Dracula powers.... spends significant amount of game sneaking around avoiding guys with guns.
Bad guys who became Good guys next? :D
I feel like (handsome) Jack can get into here quite easily due to Pre-Sequel, of course there is always the possibility that Vault Hunters aren't exactly heroes but whatever (everyone addresses them as some form of bandit, their practices appear shady at times)
Came here for Gabriel Belmont and Arthas. Very glad the Lich King got top spot.
Alex Mercer from the prototype series
You guys should work out a bit more u know
+Swiggity Swooty why , thats such a stupid thing to say . stop being a sheep i bet you go to starbucks and have a apple phone WINK WINK . try to let people live there lives how they want its to short to do something just make losers like you that are nothing in the big scheme of things happy.
you do know some people that size are more healthy then a lot of these disgusting people that go overboard working out taking 5 different powder drinks a day and pills every other hour and thats health . you do know people of that size ar the norm for western society try doing research were spoiled and have to much its a overwieght society.
as real doctors say dont go into the opposite of working out you do exercise but lifting weights and getting big is far from healthy and is far far more unnatural to the human body then being fat. these PC losers these days thinking every one needs to look how they do are fucking sick
offended fat guy detected
+Swiggity Swooty I agree. And i say this as someone taht loves games, and because of it just sits too much. God last year i ran 10km every 2nd day, now i cant get off my ass got 10kg more :D
+Swiggity Swooty Different values and commitments for different people. Some people don't give a flying fuck about their weight, as coping with it might interfere too much with what they like to do. Essentially, not working out isn't "wrong" but a preference.
+Swiggity Swooty ikr bunch of fat fucks hahahaha
The fact that Big Boss isn't on here is bullshit. He's one of the most iconic hero-to-villain characters in gaming.
Why is handsome jack not on this list........
Yeah
Cuz handsome Jack allready was a villan, iT maybe makes you think not but in the pre sequel he tries to hide it :/
+Illuminati Confirmed Dude the love of his life fucking betrays him destroying something he worked so hard to obtain while attempting to kill him and some of his best friends are in on it. I think I would turn a little fucking evil too
+Illuminati Confirmed b.s
+alacard40 this came out befor pre sequal
Thank you for Arthas. His story is by far the most in depth and interesting in gaming. If you don't know the story of Arthas, I highly recommend that you go and learn about him. It's too interesting too be left alone.
Holy. Guys, hit the weights, honestly. You have one body for a 100 years, treat it.
Not many make it to 100. I think the average today is 73.
81 for men, 84 for women.
I read differently.
May everyone who reads this hit 100!
Artorias didn't choose to be evil though. The abyss drove him mad.
Loghain from Dragon Age: Origins. At the beginning of the game, he's established as a war hero who rose from humble beginnings to being former King Maric's greatest friend and ally. He's also fiercely nationalistic and puts the good of Ferelden above all else (though he's deluded into thinking that the neighbouring nation of Orlais combined with the new king's weak leadership is Ferelden's greatest threat).
He's a villain but his motivations aren't selfish. He truly thinks he's doing what's best.
Phlebas He is my fav char from Dragon Age !
+Phlebas Like I said in my own comment, you fully get how he became such. Loghain saw such horrible things during the occupation that even the Darkspawn do not seem as evil to him as Orlais.
Which is why I was glad to see an option for him to redeem himself. . . Which I guess might have disqualified him from the list.
6:05 for the abyss walker he almost seems to be a living representation the quote, "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."
Illusive Man, in mass effect two, you're let off that he's a chill guy who saved you.
rip in pepperoni never was a good guy, cerberus are the worst vilains since ME1
Deorman So resurrecting the main character so he can fight the villains is a bad thing? He only became a bad guy at the end of ME2 and was indoctrinated (or what).
Lerquiy of Nirlac He didn't do this because it was good but because it was his best option to fight the reapers, the fact that they were also his opponent doesn't make him good.
You got a clear grasp at Cerberus motivation and methods since ME1.
Deorman That was just one section of the organization. They have good people who actually work for the betterment of humanity and the Illusive man was one of them before the reapers' corruption.
They don't work for the betterment of humanity but for the supremacy of humanity, not the same thing.
And you come across numerous cells of the organization in ME 1, ME 2 and they are all worst each time, all under supervision of one man, Illusive man.
There are some decent people in the cell Miranda and Jacobs runned but they aren't so clean either.
You guys looks like you haven't showered in months.
wish they wouldn't show themselves, kinda ruins it for me
torturapesnorrarape I agree lol
ikr
WHERE THE FUCK IS ALEX MERCER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GLaDOS But Alex Mercer was never really good, yes he suffered from Amnesia but as you regain memories you realize he was never an good guy, he was always the main antagonist.
Connor Calder Eeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhh
GLaDOS yes
GLaDOS ?
Connor Calder prototype
How can anybody cooler then a badass who has his own chor singing his name?
lol. Sephiroth.
Granas1988 How can anybody cooler than a badass who has a choir sing for his horse. (Arthas's Horse has a choir performed theme)
I was wondering where the fuck Arthas was... in the end I was not disappointed
+BroHoodAssassins Because he's the best villain EVER! :D
+István “Tobifan4ever” Czene Atleast a 3rd of WoWs fans would disagree and say Illidan beats Arthas. I think they're both tied as amazing fallen heroes honestly, loved both of them. Can't wait to see Illidan again in Legion, just gotta update my pc to meet the new fucking mimimum requirements...
Jordan Cantrell
I think so. They're tied in my opinion too, but Illidan wasn't on the list and I totally forgot about him :D
+Jordan Cantrell I'd like to see those statistics. Regardless, from a story perspective, the case that Arthas's fall from being a hero is stronger. Illidan's tale is one of unrequited love and, upon it not being returned, choosing to pursue power - perhaps why it might be able to garner so much sympathy. Don't get me wrong, Illidan's story was done in a fantastic way and I empathize with his character; unreturned love leaves a terrible void in one's heart and most people would do anything to fill it with something else and I think Illidan's choice is very fitting. That said, Arthas's motivations are much more grand and truly moving.
Where all of Illidan's motivations were self-driven Arthas has been motivated heavily to do right by his people. Never were his intentions about him, but about serving those he represented. This is a strong theme of his upbringing in more than one way. As heir to the throne there was a burden on Arthas to learn that a King must ever serve their people, a theme that Terenas touches on more than once during WotLK; meanwhile, as a paladin his code of conduct was to aid those ever less fortunate than he, who truly needed aid in a world that would give none. His entire ascent to power was not for the sake of curing a broken heart, or a lust for power, but to have the strength to protect his people from whatever would do them harm. But he shouldered that burden alone, even forgoing the love he felt for Jaina, to do what he felt was a King's duty.
It can even be argued that as the Lich King Arthas continued seeking to do right as he saw it. Rather than waging a genocidal slaughter as a surface look would suggest, Scourge writings within WoW strongly imply that the Scourge's goal was the unification of Azeroth in the event of another Legion invasion. A unified world would stand a better chance than one divided.
Thats way too much shit to read first off. Secondly, you can't forget what happened to Illidan. After helping to save the planet from the burning legion, having his love shot down, he even helped save the planet again after being imprisoned only to be betrayed yet again by his own brother and the woman he loves. They call Illidan the betrayer, but in reality he's been betrayed more by the two people he loved most then he has betrayed anyone else.
but Artorias did not turn
his body was just being controlled by the abyss
To be honest... i'm not sure Gabriel should be on this list. Playing through the two games, he never REALY did anything evil. Sure he killed a bunch of templars and others, but that would just count as self defense. They invaded HIS castle and attacked him, whet were they expecting. And when he killed the girl, he was controlled with that mask, not realy his fault. The way i see it, he's more of an anti-hero who took on the burden of those curses (the gauntlet, the sins, the vampirism) because someone had to.
wat? Artorias didn't turn bad, he isn't a darth vader. He was corrupted by the abyss and his body was forced to move by the will of humanity, not of his own. Hes not a fallen hero turned bad guy, hes possesed.
Illidan Stormrage should be on this list.
The Horde of awsome Illidan was never actually evil, though. He was kinda minding his own business in another world and hiding from the Legion and we burst in on his party.
DamorahTalset
Pfffft...
Imagine all the evil shut that happened in the Hall of Mortal Delights...
XD
awesome! I was hoping for Arthus for #1, and all I can say is YES!
Big Boss should have topped this list. He's badass all the way around.
Iron Tager That's exactly why he didn't make the list. He was badass from the start.
+Iron Tager BB never wanted to be good or bad, he is a guy who wanna fight his own war and die for what he believed in. This is only changed slightly in MGSV.
Very surprising that Jack of Blades isn't on here. Once a hero of Albion and the arena, turned epic villain.
why not the Overlord?
Oh my god, yes! That game is so under rated and I loved the story that went behind the fallen eighth hero
My thoughts exactly.
A fallen Hero, betrayed by his fellows, and left for dead.
So, he takes the mantel of being an Overlord. And goes on to WRECK the world of the Overlord series.
Whilst he may have not been as Evil as his son in Overlord 2,
He had better intentions and a more humble beginning.
YES!!! good call
Plz. What is the name of the music/song starts 5:19 (used for the Artorias the Abysswalker)?
Sarah Kerrigan is a villain? I , as a member of the Zerg , disagrees with this.
Definitely should have had Big Boss on this list. I mean, he started off as a very devoted soldier and then became one of the primary antagonists.
Handsome Jack?
Anybody?
I was thinking that the while time! Where is the best villain ever??
***** Indeed
how bout dragonborn?
MariovsSoNiC 453 You mean from the one from syrim?
Yep
Anyone know the song playing at 5:15? When they introduce artorias the abysswalker?
I would have pegged Handsome Jack from the Borderlands series to be on this list
He was always bad
+Edouard Atanesyan nope
They will mention that game when they get their virginity status settled.
WoW really does expand on Arthas by showing as still kind of a hero. The thing is, the Lich King controls the Scourge not just in a sense that he decides which battles they fight, but also by keeping them in line. If it wasn't for Arthas, the Scourge would've swept over Azeroth in a chaotic killing spree, but with Arthas keeping them on a leash, they mostly stayed in Northrend.
Revan From Star Wars.... the prodigal knight and later one of the most powerful sith lord
According to the official canon ending of kotor, he returns to the light..sorta.. more like he finds balance and achieves an unparalleled mastery of both the light and dark sides of the force, thus becoming the star wars universe equivalent of a living god. Then there's the swtor expac surrounding his return and attempt to purge the galaxy of both the republic and the sith to put an end to their centuries long war... less of a villain, more of an antihero
As someone that plays Dark Souls, I feel in needs to be mentioned. Artorius didn't fall. He was corrupted via something akin to an infection. He was a hero that essentially traversed the darkest parts of humanity and eventually was overwhelmed by them. The thing fought isn't so much him as it is the literal husk of what is left after the dark consumed him.
Not having Alex Mercer on this list, for SHAME. SHAAAAAAME. You gave one-winged gary stu a spot but not Alex Fucking Mercer, JEEZE.
Fucking 👍
Superman in Injustice Gods Among Us, Illusive Man in Mass Effect, Alex Mercer in Prototype
Sephiroth is the most beloved villain in video games? Um... pump the brakes and put down the crack pipe, guys.
It may be a bit old but Legacy of Kain's Kain is a must of this list to me.
From a knight to a vampire seeking revenge to becoming the bad vampire king was quite a turn I think.
BIG BOSS????!!!!
YASS
It is the other way around
+Gʀᴀʏ Fᴏx Effing right? THE good guy turned bad!!!!
+Gʀᴀʏ Fᴏx Wait but I thought it was the other way around? He started off as a pawn and ended rebelling against the powers that be and gets killed by someone stuck in the same cycle? Wouldn't that be bad to good?
mrwindupbird101 He rebelled with good intentions but became a literal menace to mankind. He becomes a good guy again in MGS4 though.
I think Salem from Army of Two should be on there cause he goes rogue in Army of Two: Devil's Cartel when his partner's leave him for dead after the truck he was driving blows up.
What about Handsome Jack from Borderlands 2?
he was always evil he just didnt tell until the end...thats why he made a team look for the vault, because he wants to become the strongest or the richest
Play the pre-sequel... Please... Jack WAS the good guy...
he made a team for the vault then when he got there he almost got the power and yeah i did play the pre sequel he was just bit nicer before but still evil
He turned evil. In the very beginning he doesnt even really want to kill anyone. Then everyone started freakin betraying him, and he just started to go nuts. Hell, everyone would go nuts. Jack WAS a good guy. Definetely. And he thought he still was until the bitter end...
hansome jack 😶is a hero😞😜😝
The thing about wheatley that I found most interesting was that it wasn't just the programs designed to make GladOS, well, GladOS, that changed him. His entire exchange during that cutscene shows there was more to it than that. "Tiny little wheatley did all this!" The entire time, he was struggling with a sense of worthlessness, with feelings of having never been appreciated. He worked and he worked, and in many ways, you wouldn't have made it out without him, but he never gets any thanks. All of the times he took a leap of faith, taking the risk that the lies he was told that he would die if he did certain things may be true, just to get you out, never once do you thank him, or even speak to him. He feels worthless, unloved, and empty. And then, he gets power. Lots of it. He's not useless anymore, he's important! But then GladOS needles him, insults him. "You didn't do anything, she did all the work." That's what truly pushed him over the edge, beyond any measures put in place in the system itself.
He fell to far more than a few lines of code, and that's my favorite part. Despite being a machine, he displays the most natural and human fall to villainy out of any villains I can really think of.
Kazuya didn't sell his soul to the devil, thats that bullshit movie canon, he's had the devil the whole time, same with his mom
+Xurley12 Also, correct me if I"m wrong, but Kazuya was NEVER a good guy.
Honestly a favorite of mine was Roarke from Call Of Duty Ghost who was left to die but returns as leader of the rebel forces.He gets shot in the stomach and survives a train that crashes into the ocean to take you away from your brother to make you a rebel also.
why not the warmaster horus?
Really interesting Video! I just expected the Overlord to be on here. :p
Either way, thumbs up.
Wheatley over Artorias and Kerrigan? lol?
I feel like I'm becoming a fallen hero myself. The chills running down my back is comforting.
Darth Vader and Darth Tyranus from Star Wars... Oh wait. Never mind. Star Wars is a movie. Still, Anakin Skywalker was pretty boring (except in parts of the Phantom Meanace) until he became Darth Vader.
Idris Winchester except those movies were made into games, so they count.
sonicking2004 I haven' t really played any star wars games except for the force unleashed. I heard that knights of the old republic was good, though.
Starlord1954 DX The ending was actiony, but I got bored during most of his scenes with Padme. I'm sure there were some other parts where he was fun, but I don't really remember most of episodes II or III. Last time I saw it was a long time ago (in a galaxy far far away).
Starlord1954 DX I think I kinda remember that. My dad is a huge the originals were better than the prequels person, so I never got much chance to see the prequels, and thus I don't remember much. Except for the Darth Maul thing and the podrace in the first one. The only thing I remember not liking was Jar Jar, though. I found him a bit annoying.
Idris Winchester tool
No Lacan from Xenogears? seriously? he is so fucking badass as a villain and you feel sorry for him once you discover why he became like that...
list fails for not having Ravan from KOTOR
Revan
+Ciril Hamb he was a jedi first, then became a jedi again, so he does qualify
+Ciril Hamb exactly and he was great both as a jedi and sith.
+Jarsia Actually, yes and no. He was a jedi who rebelled in order to help fight in a war against the Mandalorians. After his side wins the war, he learns about the Sith Emperor and tries to kill him alongside his not-really Padawan Malak. The Emperor was too strong for them and brainwashed them both into becoming Sith and going back into the known galaxy while the Emperor remained hidden. Then he had his mind wiped by the Jedi and canonically became good again. Then he got kicked out of the Jedi AGAIN because he got married to Bastilla, who also got kicked out. THEN he vaguely remembers the Emperor, meets Lord Scourge who is part of a plan to betray and kill the Emperor, tries to fight him again, and gets betrayed by Scourge. Instead of getting brainwashed again, he's locked up in a hidden prison for hundreds of years, mentally fighting against the Emperor's will while being sustained by the Emperor's power. He's eventually freed by your character in SWTOR if you're part of the Republic, and then killed by your character if you're part of the Empire. AND THEN we find out he somehow survived it and is using a secret organization of people that worship him to try and destroy the Emperor. While that sounds good, the Emperor is recovering at the time, and is basically asleep, and in order to kill him, Revan planned to wake him up, which would cause a lot of bad shit to happen considering the Emperor's plan the entire time is to sacrifice everyone in the entire galaxy to make himself more powerful. After beating up Revan, we learn he didn't really survive, only his Dark Side did and was acting on pure hatred and rage, while his Light Side was already a force ghost. Then he finally fully dies.
Revan's gone up and down on the see-saw a ton of times, but several of those times were mind control, or not even the good part of him remaining, so it shouldn't really count for this list.
+Rukifellth The Shadow I prefer to blissfully ignore his butchered storyline from TOR.
What is the music call that starts at 5:16, The bit with Artorias The Abysswalker? :(Wish people would put in the discription the music they bloody use. |B(
I can only imagine who's no 1
Should have been Big Boss
Ronald Venner I agree 100%. I don't know how they missed him
Arthas easily number one. The idea of him trying to destroy The Scourge and becoming the very enemy he sought to destroy by taking Frostmourne was pure genius from a storytelling perspective. It only makes it even more tragic with his tale since he had good intentions before.
wheres big smoke from gta sa
HaDeZ Clan Right next to Lance Vance from Vice city, gathering dust along with all the other gangster movie rip offs
thugs are good guys genius
I'd argue Artorias isn't an villain. There was cut dialogue to show he was more of a puppet than having actually gone to the "dark side." He never wanted to fight you and he simply became a puppet of the darkness after being defeated by Manus.
No fucking big boss!!!!!!!!!
Gamer Masterrace I´m dissapointed as well!
Saw Artorias the Abyss Walker. *Scream like a madman* So proud I finished the game 3 times to unlock all the trophies.
Elliot Salem from Army of TWO goes from your best friend to a guy who almost completely wipes out TWO
Albert Wesker, The Resident Evil series. He started out as Captain of the STARS police unit, and later on he was revealed as an agent of the Umbrella Corporation and by Resident Evil 5, he exposed himself to Uroboros.
+Stephen Hertz
Wesker start as a Umbrella Corp. member. many years later he join police. He never was a hero in any means
they didnt give Artorious enough credit. when you fight him, his sword is in his off hand. His dominant arm got broken protecting his companion sif. (who is his dog buddy and also a sad boss fight in the vanilla game) He went to the abyss to stop its spread, but what ultimately defeated by the lord of the abyss Manus. But he clings to life, and when you find him he is still killing the creatures of the abyss, and only fights you as a gatekeeper of sorts. so not only does he fight you with his off hand, he has no shield, and still manages to be one of the most memorable and more difficult fights in the entire franchise. Artorious is a fucking badass
"You don't get cooler than Arthas as the Lich King" Literally. He's on an ice throne.
I don't know if any games has Satan as a character, but he is definitely the ultimate good guy turned bad guy. He was god's right hand man, naturally a position one would assume would be filled by the most good being (excluding god), and then he became the opposite of god. He went from most good to most evil.
arthas is #1 (before i saw the video)
Man, you guys missed a big one. Big Boss from the Metal Gear Solid series. He starts out a hero, and slowly over the course of his games, you can see his transformation from Naked Snake to Big Boss. Its rather major since he's actually the main character of the series. Solid Snake is like a transitional character, holding his place, for his games, and the series does a great job of masking Big Boss as main character.
What always made me sad about Artorias is because he was corrupted so badly by the Abyss because he wanted a human. Because he was something more pure and good than a human it was easier for him to fall to the darkness.
Arthas definitely deserves the #1 spot. Good call.
Sigma from Mega Man X started out as the best Maverick Hunter ( or Irregular Hunter as they're sometimes called ), but became the always resurrecting badass villain. In fact, he went Maverick around the same time Zero was cured of the Maverick virus iirc....
Quote of the day:
"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
I feel like artorias didn't really give in as theyre saying. its more of he used himself as a human shield to contain the abyss and in the process became absorbed into it. so its almost as if even when he's your enemy, the simple fact that he is corrupted is a heroic act in itself. he allowed himself to be corrupted to prevent the abyss from corrupting the world
So you missed Big Boss,Deathwing,Garrosh,Illidan,Sylvanas Windrunner,Kel'Thuzad,Sargeras(heck,you could make a top 7 list on warcraft villains alone),Handsome Jack,Comstock from Bioshock Infinite(kinda fits into this list) and i guess there are a lot of others i didn't mention....
TECHNICALLY, NO ONE could be cooler than Arthas. He's in Northrend. He's sitting on a frozen throne. He's ice-encrusted.
I was hoping Gabriel would be number 1
his transformation wasn't "good is boring" it was more of him being slowly being forced to sacrifice more of himself until there was nothing left to give
and he lost faith in the world and how he couldn't save his wife.
I'm not doing it justice with this description. the music the animations the voice acting, his physical transformation they all make his development so briliant
And artorias' is even stronger knowing that, he is fighting you with his left arm broken and fights you with his right hand. He is a natural left handed soldier, as well as giving his shield to protect his dog.
Siegfried from Soul Calibur? becomes Nightmare after being possesed by Soul Edge ad is saved by Soul Calibur?interesting story and overall epic
You guys totally forgot Big Boss from the Metal Gear franchise
Big Boss was awesome hero that became boring villain.
I was really surprised how much Artorias affected people, this guy we never even knew was just there and he had fallen so far, I'm almost surprised that no separate game was created around Gwyns knights and you were artorias
Kain definitely makes top 7
GLAdos is shells mother... or she was until she got digitized...
the owner of apatur sciense was dying of chanser and wanted to be made into a machine to save himself but couldent get there in time.. he left it to his assistant who he likely had a relationship (its very likely he is shells father)
we can tell that this is the likely senario by various hints scattered around and then by the latin lyrics of the drone song at the end...
I'm so freaking surprised Sephiroth wasn't number one because everybody goes gaga over him (I've never been a Final Fantasy fan). Wheatley's transformation broke my heart even though he became even MORE interesting as a character.