Joshua Brown It builds 'dying' into the mechanics, which is not something most games do. The concept that it's "hard" revolves around expecting to die frequently.
Joshua Brown It is hard, and anyone who says otherwise is a poser and ends up making themselves look like pretentious jerks. It does, however get easier with practice and learning the different moves etc and attack speeds.
I like DMC. It's a good game. People bitching about it because they changed the look of Dante is why gamers are destroying the video game industry. Gamers always want something new, and when it's delivered, those same gamers will complain that they changed the game, and need to get back to their roots.
Sanic Hegehog The original Dante was a very loved character, you don't just change something like that and expect good things to happen. Also you might want something new but that doesn't mean you have to like what you get, For example say you wanted a new shirt and someone got you one but the art on the shirt isn't to your tastes does that mean you have to like it just because you wanted a new shirt?
dragonxking24 That's just one quality though. DMC has so much more to offer. And people that hate the entire game because he doesn't have silver hair, that;s just pathetic.
Sanic Hegehog I admit the combat is decent (but from what I've seen a bit more simple) but did you play the original? They also changed his personality and made him way weaker.
When i make my game on the final level it will play either Darude Sandstorm or either Rick Roll when the final boss comes out instead of epic music and it will just be a guy dancing xD
Then you may need to actually get permission from the record companies that own the songs, or else face copyright over intellectual property. (Unless your just joking around, then forget everything I said.)
+Skarn22 i did. actually desmon glued all the AC pieces together, giving the player an actual reason to be back in time. The whole story arround this just were executed in a very dumb way in every installment execpt for AC2.
Goldenblakcon at the end of the game his hair is full white, there is a costume unlock for white hair, and then an unlock for dmc3 dante... not really trolling if they give you what you want.
w0nd100 It kinda's dude... not going with the whole white hair/original dante seemed unnecessary(changing iconic char.. design just because you feel like it - poor choice) developer being arrogant... even with all flash back/ feedback from fan and ? from the original creator himself (they turned blind eyes).... they went with their own choice, thus resulting in that poor sale... the whole character was revampd.. not just dante to the point that it didn't felt like dmc to the point(it might've worked out for dev.. but not so much for fans).. dumped down combat... you see everything was laid out for them (fanbase ....) nd they still managed to f..all up well story was ok then other dmc but thats not saying a lot.. they tried something diff... I'll support that, but they weren't carefull/aware enough for changes in regards to fans (What decent business person deliberately antagonizes his/her potential customers at the onset of a new venture?).. so they gave us opposite of what we want...
Goldenblakcon yup and that's why i am glad it got the feedback it did, because they didn't listen and basically told us we will like it no matter what. People voted with their wallets. Some one just mentioned the hair being black, so i was just pointing out by the end of the game it stays white
Kelvargaming I'll never understand why so many bitched about the game. It was good and this appearance suits his new personality. He was a rewritten character, and it was for the better.
Rowan Buchanan It's just like always. Gamers complain and bitch about wanting something new and different in their games, yet when they get it they cry and want everything to go back to the old. No matter if the change was actually good or not. They're also the reason why development in general is being held back. Just gotta live with it I guess.
Kelvargaming i wouldnt mind the change so much if dante still had its original hair color making a guy that was born with white har suddenly have breyburn brown thats just not right i mean id love to see him with white tips in his hair or outright platinum hair while it was so short but no they not only redisigned it but also changed his background wich is stupid cause its his background that makes him the hero
Its not about looks of Dante and Vergil. Its about their horrible personalities. Original Dante was cool, funny and strong, yet behind this "fucking around" mask was a great pain for his dead parents and, as he thought, batshit crazy evil brother. Well, I'm talking about dmc3 of course. 1 and 2 did not bother with plot that much. Now Vergil was even more complicated. Convinced that it is his fault that his mother died because he was too weak to protect her, he is now obsessed with getting more power and becoming stronger. Strong enough to defeat Mundus. But he was also honorable and wise. Cold and calm in all his actions and decisions. But they fucked it all up by making Dante a complite asshole, who cant say a sentence without saying "fuck" 50 times, who has from little to no conflict going on and all his rewritten backstory is forced to us like we picked up a fucking glossary. A son of a devil and angel? Bullshit. First, sparda was in love with a mortal woman and that's the tragedy. Second, there were no angels in original series, because if you bring angels you automatically bring God in this. And there s no God in dmc because he would not let ninja theory to fuck it up so hard if he existed. Anyway, back to Vergil. Remember how comlicated and honorable he was? Here he is a whiny bitch who cant possibly get any more gay and has absolutley no honor or respect. Here he just takes a gun(which I'll remind you Vergil hated) and SHOOTS A HOSTAGE PREGNANT WOMAN IN THE BACK KILLING HER BABY, TAKING PAUSE TO LET HER REALISE IT, AND ONLY THEN KILLS HER. What the fuck? And then suddenly, with absolutley no buildup he just becomes evil and wants to rule the world. Finally, in dmc 3 Lady, as a female character actually had a story of revenge and self descovery. Multiple times she changed her view and motives while being fooled by her father. But most importantly, she was actually important to the story and she actually did stuff. Here we have a bland unwritten pretty ass bouncing around doing fuckall but being kidnapped. Basicly April from Ninja turtels. And my last complaint: All action is going on ONLY in limbo. Every time they walk somewhere sudennly... limbo happens. well yeah it was cool and stylish for the first glance but not the 500th fucking time. Besides, all this goverment control bullshit is just too pretentious and forced. Oh, and Sparda was actually dead in originals. Here it is stated that he is alive and kept prisoner while we see a flashback showing him chained in some sex dungeon with a bdsm mask on him and some imp dude is whipping him... Im not even kidding, just look at that scene in slomo. Anyway, I got butthert when i talk about this fucking game so much, that i totally forget where i was going with this comment. I hope I explained the hate to this game clear enough and that it not about hair. Sorry for bad English.
Well i must admit, i really enjoyed the gameplay part. And i dk how anyone cannot. Overall, the game is okay iand even pretty god as just a game. And that's the reason why many people say its good. As dmc1,3,4 fan i can suggest other fans to just try to not care about story.
+Dante Vic well, yeah, but part 1 plot was pretty much a big mess with some wierd decisions (like leaving sword and medallion with that dumb pointless twat Trish), so the only good part of its' plot is, exactly as you said, about Nelo Angelo. But that part is fully explained and made dramatic only after yo play dmc3, because you realuse Vergils' motivation and build strong connection to him. It's only my opinion, but i still think that only 3 really had a good plot.
The first Scarecrow sequence in Arkham Asylum was seeing his parents in the morgue. The second was the library turning into the alley where his parents were shot. The fake game crash was in the THIRD sequence.
As a big fan of the Devil May Cry series and somebody who considers Dante one of her all-time favorite characters, I thought the scene in DmC was actually pretty amusing. I was upset at first by the redesign too, but I learned to accept the reboot for what it was and not as a replacement for the older games and actually really enjoyed it.
Well it's not such a terrible mistake on their part since both consoles are from the same manufacturer so it's forgivable. I watched and enjoyed your videos and honestly I'm surprised by this comment. Lighteh up man!
can someone help me? The beginning of the song in 5:13 reminds me of some opera song with a build up of wind instruments followed by a choir that doesn't really sing words but a few high notes... It sounds pretty fast and epic with a lot of force. I can't quite recall the name or where it is from. (possibly used in a movie or a video game but probably from an opera) Please help :(
I know it was a mere side note, but I disagree on what you said about Symphony of the Night. You don't "play the game again upside down". Yes, the level layout is the same, but you're fighting new enemies and bosses, and finding new loot. Yes, it's recycling, but don't think that they just flipped the map and called it a day. The castle was specifically created to be played both ways.
Trolling is about getting a negative reaction from somebody. For GTA:V, The torture sequence, it was explained as to why Trevor had to do that... There was no "little to no explanation why" it was done. I dont see how wearing the mask in MGS3 is a joke at fans expense... Batman Arkham Asylums secrete room definitely doesnt count as trolling... how is that trolling... there is no joke there, theres no reason seeing that should give someone a negative reaction... Eternal Darkness, wouldnt call that trolling, sounds like a great gameplay mechanic. i can see it as trolling though causing people to be annoyed. 50/50 lol. Diablo III doesnt seem much like trolling. fans said no rainbows, so they gave them a world of rainbows in which to kill all of the cuddly creatures in. not sure how desert bus is trolling. thats how the game is. it wasnt made to annoy people. how is the giant squid a reference to finger chopping in the original game? unless that was meant to be 2 separates in the list. in any case, a giant squid, a reference to the original, and Ezio helping invent the latte are not messing with fans emotions... the giant squid might scare you but chances are if you are able to see it then you know it exists and are trying to see it. listing possible locations for future games is not poking fun at fans and/or conspiracy theorist. thats saying hey, wouldnt these places also be kinda cool? and give fans something to talk about and think about. it wasnt put in there so they could laugh at the fans for thinking those might be settings or something... for larry, i guess a number of things are unexpected but i dont really see how its trolling.
***** they say that the player is forced to brutalize a man with little to not explanation why he has to do that. but its explained why he has to do that. they tell you during the mission why you are doing it. it wasnt trolling at all. the tons of diving for 10 bucks was more a troll but the torture part of that mission wasnt a troll at all
djhart25 in this video. they say that the torture part of Grand Theft Auto V forced the player to torture a man with no explanation as to why the player had to torture the man and that is supposed to be a to troll at the player. i was saying that in the game they explain why trevor had to torture him. there was reason given. they did not just drop trevor in a room at random with him torturing a person for no reason. saying "There was no" is saying that there was none of something. if someone asks you to get ketchup out of the fridge and there is none one of the things you could say is "there was no ketchup" in the video they said, there was little to no reason given as to why trevor had to torture the man. so i was saying There was no "little to no reason why" because the reason was stated in the mission. sorry thats long but i hoped that cleared things up
Wait... why would you compare Ghouls and Ghosts to Castlevania Symphony of the Night??? Ghouls and Ghosts simply makes you play the game entirely over again with no changes, that's not the case with Castlevania, at all. Symphony of the Night has you continue the game, you have to re-explore the castle but it's upside down, meaning the stages aren't the same, and in fact a lot of them are pretty much new stages thanks to the well designing of the stages. There are new items, enemies and stories, offering a whole new experience rather than just having you go through the same thing again like Ghouls and Ghosts did. I honestly don't understand why some think SotN's reverse castle feature has to do the designer being lazy How about appreciating the designers' effort in designing all the stages to work both ways? Ghouls and Ghosts is the actual game that's showing laziness, or just that they thought having the player beat a game twice is cool. How about making a game that requires beating it 90 times to get the good ending showing like a static picture with some texts? That'd make a memorably difficult game.
You forgot the pendant from Dark Souls which had the description of soothing you, while it had absolutely no effect ever in the game (which is the meanest considering the game is full of things with hidden stats and effects).
The Leisure Suit Larry example could be applied to almost every Sierra adventure game, though. Sierra took sadistic glee in killing you and then mocking your corpse back in the day.
PichDextro welp. guess what? both DmC and DMC are alive and well. according to the creator neither the "reboot" or the original are going to die anytime soon.and are being treated as seperate series
***** I'd only consider it worth being treated as separate if they changed the name completely to something that doesn't conflict with the original. DmC: Devil May Cry.... bit redundant. That's why I don't like reboots in the first place. If you couldn't do it right the first time, why make a new version in hopes people would like it more? It would make more sense just to move on to something different.
You know what would REALLY get me to give Ubisoft money for an Assassin's Creed game? If they made Assassin's Creed games based on the Ashikaga Shogunate and the Summer of Love, and also made them for the Wii U. I would buy those games.
LegendStormcrow Yes it was. It all started when a bunch of gamers complained that the new game was "too bright and cheery" on the message boards. In response, one of the developers wore a t-shirt that showed rainbows and unicorns of a shirt with the words "diablo 3" as well. Clearly they were making fun of complaints, which was fair as the complaints were ridiculous. The level in the game was just a reference to that controversy.
3:04 don't you mean *LAST* time? first time the gas hits you you see a dead body and the gas makes you think it's the commissioner. then you try to contact oracle and afterwards the bodies of Bruce's parents followed by scarecrow throws you into the "escape his world" stage
I still think the DmC troll is the best fucking thing ever. considering the DMC fanbase is the whiniest bunch of motherfuckers on the planet, i loved when they did that lol the backlash was the greatest thing ever. DmC is a great game too. i liked the new Dante WAYYYYYY more than the old one. the new game felt more gritty, dark, and real compared to the older ones, which always felt like crappy, generic, anime games. really, the only Devil May Cry game i actually WANT to play these days is the new one. and considering again how well Ninja theory did with the game, and how well they did with the definitive edition, it's no lie when i say that Ninja theory's DmC is the ONLY DmC i plan on touching in the future.
Yeah too bad the game bombed so hard that Ninja Theory themselves confirmed that they've stopped working on the franchise lol. The game just sucked period. It wasn't the redesign or the fanboy backlash. It just sucked.
+killmaster5038 this comment right here. I played all DMC games but 4. to me, 3 was better than the first & second one, UNTIL I played the new DMC with new Dante, he's cool, almost as cool as Dante in DMC 3. the white hair is lame, is a lame argument. his powers & weapons are better & so are the combos. I hope they keep doing more, but like you said, I'm cool with just the one.
i feel like DmC is the definitive devil may cry game. it was darker, more gritty, and more serious as well. again. its the ONLY Devil May Cry game i will probably ever stick with. the others are obsolete in my eyes.
How petty is that? people wouldnt buy the New DMC cuz of Dantes new look, it didnt bother me and turned out to be a awesome game. Even the music kicks ass, I meet and became a huge fan of Combichrist because of DMC........ I swear that has to be the most ridiculous and childish reason to not buy a game.
Exactly people over react over the littlest things cuz just somebody tries something diffrent and wants a freash start. I dont identify myself as a gamer ither just a Metal Head/Nerd lol
That wasn't the only reason I didn't buy it. I heard he was much more sexualized too. Also an a-hole in all the wrong ways. I also don't like his attitude. Then for some reason the half angel thing leaves a bad taste. Drives me crazy between it all. Meh, I'll stick with Warframe and such.
+KiraGameplays I think it's just an overflamed controversy. I think people forget it's a reboot and not canon with the lore, I'd even accept a female Dante if the story was meant to be completely detached from the original DMC universe.
My dad drives a semi truck from Tucson to Tennesse... With only about 5 hours of sleep a day, from here to there... So I have full confidence he could beat that level, it sucks because after Los Vegas. I only see my dad twice a week :(
+5persondude If you look up the original InFamous 2 trailers Cole looked massively different from the first game, most noticeably he had hair and dark tattoos all over his arms. There was fan outrage so Sucker Punch got rid of the hair and altered the tattoos so it looked more like original Cole.
Here's a really good troll for you. X-Men on 16 bits consoles. (I played the genesis version, expect others were the same) No save mecanics. VERY hard levels. Once you beat the "last" boss, you the screen goes black, a bunch of green binary flashes and you are left with a single message on screen telling you to reset the computer. It just hangs there, until you press reset on the console. This "reboots the computer" and gets you to the final level. This was before the age of the internet, so you couldn't just look up what was going on. Pressing that button the first time you think you figured it out is a nerve shaking experience.
The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time, Beating the water temple but Zora´s domain is still frozen before you do so. Super Mario Sunshine, Collecting al the blue coins and shine sprites just to get a render of all the characters saying "Have a relaxing vacation". Mortal Kombat 9, Having a screamer inside the krypt.
Computers, it got a DOS, MacOS, Commodore (from memory), etc release. Also if you bought a condom from the convenience store the prostitute wasn't a death sentence. It got a VGA graphics point & click release later as well. Still DOS (though it'd work in Windows 3.11 and 95 with a bit of hair pulling).
X-Men for Sega Genesis tells you that in order to beat the Time Crunch (Mojo's stage), you have to "reset the computer." You are given a time limit to complete that stage (the only level this happens) and it's the 2nd to last stage in the game. When you beat Mojo and end up in the final room, there is a computer panel that appears on screen. Your character smashes it and it explodes, but the timer continues and your player cannot scroll the screen in either direction, you are stuck there while Prof X appears on some monitors imploring you to reset the computer, which you think you already did. When the clock runs out, you don't just lose a life. It's game over, as in, start from the beginning! The solution? Reset the Computer = Reset the Genesis. Instead of the title screen, binary code covers the screen and leads into the final cutscene to set up the final stage. Needed to look online for that one. Now that's trolling the player.
The explanation for why we tortured the guy was to show us that torture is useless as a means to get information, dude told you what he thought you wanted to hear, we arent even sure if the information we got was valid. Thats the point of the mission. I guess its hard to see a positive live lesson come from a game like gta.
Since you brought up MGS 2, you should have included the ending of the game where the game completely spasses out and the Colonel says all kinds of weird ass things. First time I went through that part, I switched off my console because I thought it was broken. One of the best game trolling moments imo. :D
San Andreas, work through endless amount of missions, fail to blow up or helicopter (I can barely remember) lose all of your weapons. I'm sure this happens a few times?
That part about Batman Arkham Asylum is so true. I was so stupid, I actually went back to the GameStop and received a new copy since I thought the first one was broken.
sad about the DMC sales, its actually a good game. the fighting, bosses, and story are still fun and enjoyable. people need to let go of their history problem (and im a big dmc fan)
Thing about DMC Devil May Cry is They HAD to change his look massively. Capcom made them. The Wig was more of a nod towards the older fans, than trolling them, imo. Also anyone who finished the game can easily tell that it was meant to tie in to the original games, to a fairly high extent.
A funny little troll in Mass Effect 3 (apart from the endings), is when you meet Conrad Verner again. If you keep talking to him, he references some of the comments leading up to Mass Effect 2's release, concerning the switch from weapons cooling down to using thermal clips. he also references some players shorts attentionspans, when he asks the same question twice! Last but not least; Conrad offers to help you, but to complete his "mission" you need to have done a specific mission for Gavin Hussle in Mass Effect 1, have a specific weapons license AND complete the ME1 mission to collect matriarch writings. Do all this, and the game rewards you with a war asset worth 5 points... o___o
Oddly enough, I'm probably one of the few players that thought the DMC troll was pretty hilarious because it played on the usual snarky attitude Dante has. I still say they did pretty good with DMC as a different vision.
I think people are failing to see that the backlash with Dante has to do with the change in personality, and the change in role. He went from being a cheesy, lovable character into a 13 year old's power fantasy. That is what the backlash was about. Character design didn't even factor in... inb4 Devil May Cry 2.
What about Neir? Neir definitely deserves a spot on this list, or a list similar to this. or was it not popular enough? Well in Neir there are 3 secret endings and after unlocking the third secret ending the game asks you to input your character name, and doing so deletes all memory of the Neir save files existing on your system
Final fantasy XIV:ARR trolls their players on purpose during the relic quest line. (relics are weapons that take a looong time and a lot of money to upgrade) towards the end of the quest line the chat log says that one step will only have a 1.4% percent chance to succeed, and if it fails you will have to start the whole thing again. In reality it's a 100% chance of success... The NPC dialogue even goes along with this troll. T^T You start to doubt yourself "Maybe everyone else I see with the relic was just lucky, what if I'M the one that gets screwed?"
I actually didn't mind Dante's new look all that much in the reboot. I didn't see him as the original Dante though, more like a ancestor with the same name.
Ninja Theory trolled themselves with the new DMC
FelpHero still better then dmc 2
michaael stanfield hey, this new dmc was a great game, way better than dmc 2
Eduardo Santos Yeah - absolutly great game!
FelpHero With a great game and great sales ! Good move , Ninja Theory ;)
FelpHero And Dante's hair was white by the end, anyway!
Remember when you did that heist that made you think that you were getting 2,000,000,000 dollars, and then you had to return it
You forgot the entire game of Dark Souls.
Trey Trollston ha
That game isnt a troll, nor is it hard
Joshua Brown It builds 'dying' into the mechanics, which is not something most games do. The concept that it's "hard" revolves around expecting to die frequently.
Joshua Brown It is hard, and anyone who says otherwise is a poser and ends up making themselves look like pretentious jerks. It does, however get easier with practice and learning the different moves etc and attack speeds.
You just said, yourself, it isnt hard. You said it gets easy lol.
I think Rockstar wanted us to see the work they did on the ocean floor, hence those missions.
I like DMC. It's a good game. People bitching about it because they changed the look of Dante is why gamers are destroying the video game industry. Gamers always want something new, and when it's delivered, those same gamers will complain that they changed the game, and need to get back to their roots.
Sanic Hegehog The original Dante was a very loved character, you don't just change something like that and expect good things to happen. Also you might want something new but that doesn't mean you have to like what you get, For example say you wanted a new shirt and someone got you one but the art on the shirt isn't to your tastes does that mean you have to like it just because you wanted a new shirt?
dragonxking24 That's just one quality though. DMC has so much more to offer. And people that hate the entire game because he doesn't have silver hair, that;s just pathetic.
Sanic Hegehog I admit the combat is decent (but from what I've seen a bit more simple) but did you play the original? They also changed his personality and made him way weaker.
dragonxking24 I wasn't a big fan of all his one liners in the original games. He just seemed as cliche as an action movie.
Soooo true man
When i make my game on the final level it will play either Darude Sandstorm or either Rick Roll when the final boss comes out instead of epic music and it will just be a guy dancing xD
Then you may need to actually get permission from the record companies that own the songs, or else face copyright over intellectual property. (Unless your just joking around, then forget everything I said.)
BlazinVoid I need to get permission..
No one owns Darude Sandstorm.
stormsasuke Darude does. :^)
Lol
Metal Gear Solid 2 was the ultimate troll. None of the games on the list come close to the curveball it throws you when you first play as Raiden.
+BarackObamaLikesPoop I would argue that Desmond Miles is the greater troll. I don't think anyone much wanted or cared about anything he did.
+Skarn22 i did. actually desmon glued all the AC pieces together, giving the player an actual reason to be back in time. The whole story arround this just were executed in a very dumb way in every installment execpt for AC2.
I loved the new Dante look. And plus as the game goes on his hair starts to turn white
Alex Wells well in all dmc game his hair was white, you didn't 've to go super s. to make it white...
Goldenblakcon at the end of the game his hair is full white, there is a costume unlock for white hair, and then an unlock for dmc3 dante... not really trolling if they give you what you want.
w0nd100 It kinda's dude... not going with the whole white hair/original dante seemed unnecessary(changing iconic char.. design just because you feel like it - poor choice) developer being arrogant... even with all flash back/ feedback from fan and ? from the original creator himself (they turned blind eyes).... they went with their own choice, thus resulting in that poor sale... the whole character was revampd.. not just dante to the point that it didn't felt like dmc to the point(it might've worked out for dev.. but not so much for fans).. dumped down combat... you see everything was laid out for them (fanbase ....) nd they still managed to f..all up well story was ok then other dmc but thats not saying a lot.. they tried something diff... I'll support that, but they weren't carefull/aware enough for changes in regards to fans (What decent business person deliberately antagonizes his/her potential customers at the onset of a new venture?).. so they gave us opposite of what we want...
Goldenblakcon
yup and that's why i am glad it got the feedback it did, because they didn't listen and basically told us we will like it no matter what. People voted with their wallets. Some one just mentioned the hair being black, so i was just pointing out by the end of the game it stays white
Guys, what if it's a prequel to DMC3, which is first in the timeline?
._. The torture scene wasn't trolling and it explained why you're torturing him.
+Kou D3x It also clearly explained that you didn't have to torture him...
+EatGameSleep i enjoyed torturing him
+Kou D3x Y'know who me and my friend wanna torture? Vane from Assasin's creed: black flag
+Kou D3x Yah you had to kill that azerbaijanese guy thats why you had to torture him
So, who else actually prefers Dante's new look?
Rowan Buchanan Me definitely! The new Dante was such a well made character. I only find Nero from DmC 4 to be a better character honestly.
Kelvargaming I'll never understand why so many bitched about the game. It was good and this appearance suits his new personality. He was a rewritten character, and it was for the better.
Rowan Buchanan It's just like always. Gamers complain and bitch about wanting something new and different in their games, yet when they get it they cry and want everything to go back to the old. No matter if the change was actually good or not. They're also the reason why development in general is being held back. Just gotta live with it I guess.
Kelvargaming i wouldnt mind the change so much if dante still had its original hair color
making a guy that was born with white har
suddenly have breyburn brown thats just not right
i mean id love to see him with white tips in his hair or outright platinum hair while it was so short
but no they not only redisigned it but also changed his background wich is stupid cause its his background that makes him the hero
Rowan Buchanan No one.
Its not about looks of Dante and Vergil. Its about their horrible personalities.
Original Dante was cool, funny and strong, yet behind this "fucking around" mask was a great pain for his dead parents and, as he thought, batshit crazy evil brother. Well, I'm talking about dmc3 of course. 1 and 2 did not bother with plot that much.
Now Vergil was even more complicated. Convinced that it is his fault that his mother died because he was too weak to protect her, he is now obsessed with getting more power and becoming stronger. Strong enough to defeat Mundus. But he was also honorable and wise. Cold and calm in all his actions and decisions.
But they fucked it all up by making Dante a complite asshole, who cant say a sentence without saying "fuck" 50 times, who has from little to no conflict going on and all his rewritten backstory is forced to us like we picked up a fucking glossary. A son of a devil and angel? Bullshit.
First, sparda was in love with a mortal woman and that's the tragedy. Second, there were no angels in original series, because if you bring angels you automatically bring God in this. And there s no God in dmc because he would not let ninja theory to fuck it up so hard if he existed.
Anyway, back to Vergil. Remember how comlicated and honorable he was? Here he is a whiny bitch who cant possibly get any more gay and has absolutley no honor or respect. Here he just takes a gun(which I'll remind you
Vergil hated) and SHOOTS A HOSTAGE PREGNANT WOMAN IN THE BACK KILLING HER BABY, TAKING PAUSE TO LET HER REALISE IT, AND ONLY THEN KILLS HER. What the fuck? And then suddenly, with absolutley no buildup he just becomes evil and wants to rule the world.
Finally, in dmc 3 Lady, as a female character actually had a story of revenge and self descovery. Multiple times she changed her view and motives while being fooled by her father. But most importantly, she was actually important to the story and she actually did stuff. Here we have a bland unwritten pretty ass bouncing around doing fuckall but being kidnapped. Basicly April from Ninja turtels.
And my last complaint: All action is going on ONLY in limbo. Every time they walk somewhere sudennly... limbo happens. well yeah it was cool and stylish for the first glance but not the 500th fucking time. Besides, all this goverment control bullshit is just too pretentious and forced.
Oh, and Sparda was actually dead in originals. Here it is stated that he is alive and kept prisoner while we see a flashback showing him chained in some sex dungeon with a bdsm mask on him and some imp dude is whipping him... Im not even kidding, just look at that scene in slomo.
Anyway, I got butthert when i talk about this fucking game so much, that i totally forget where i was going with this comment.
I hope I explained the hate to this game clear enough and that it not about hair.
Sorry for bad English.
Well i must admit, i really enjoyed the gameplay part. And i dk how anyone cannot.
Overall, the game is okay iand even pretty god as just a game. And that's the reason why many people say its good.
As dmc1,3,4 fan i can suggest other fans to just try to not care about story.
+Alex Thomson part 1 had plot it came after 3 where mundus defeated vergil an turned him into neo angel . part 2 had no plot
+Dante Vic well, yeah, but part 1 plot was pretty much a big mess with some wierd decisions (like leaving sword and medallion with that dumb pointless twat Trish), so the only good part of its' plot is, exactly as you said, about Nelo Angelo. But that part is fully explained and made dramatic only after yo play dmc3, because you realuse Vergils' motivation and build strong connection to him.
It's only my opinion, but i still think that only 3 really had a good plot.
+Alex Thomson Wasn't DmC supposed to be a prequel though? Before he really grew into the cool, white haired, witty Dante people are used to?
The first Scarecrow sequence in Arkham Asylum was seeing his parents in the morgue. The second was the library turning into the alley where his parents were shot. The fake game crash was in the THIRD sequence.
As a big fan of the Devil May Cry series and somebody who considers Dante one of her all-time favorite characters, I thought the scene in DmC was actually pretty amusing. I was upset at first by the redesign too, but I learned to accept the reboot for what it was and not as a replacement for the older games and actually really enjoyed it.
Super Mario Bros because every time you think you've rescued the Princess. Toad tells you "Sorry but your princess is in another castle."
Infinite Warfare??? We all know they're trolling us with that trailer, right? RIGHT!?
Yes.
Whats the name of the song playing at the GTA V part? ty
Smoke and Mirrors was made for the Sega CD, not the Saturn!
And you call yourself professionals?
and most of these are easter eggs not trolling
"hey, #gitgud brah"
- LBJ
Well it's not such a terrible mistake on their part since both consoles are from the same manufacturer so it's forgivable.
I watched and enjoyed your videos and honestly I'm surprised by this comment. Lighteh up man!
+Nightmaroid its like they said that gta v is for original psx...
can someone help me? The beginning of the song in 5:13 reminds me of some opera song with a build up of wind instruments followed by a choir that doesn't really sing words but a few high notes... It sounds pretty fast and epic with a lot of force. I can't quite recall the name or where it is from. (possibly used in a movie or a video game but probably from an opera) Please help :(
I know it was a mere side note, but I disagree on what you said about Symphony of the Night. You don't "play the game again upside down". Yes, the level layout is the same, but you're fighting new enemies and bosses, and finding new loot. Yes, it's recycling, but don't think that they just flipped the map and called it a day. The castle was specifically created to be played both ways.
What's the song playing on the ghost and goblins bit?
Trolling is about getting a negative reaction from somebody.
For GTA:V, The torture sequence, it was explained as to why Trevor had to do that... There was no "little to no explanation why" it was done.
I dont see how wearing the mask in MGS3 is a joke at fans expense...
Batman Arkham Asylums secrete room definitely doesnt count as trolling... how is that trolling... there is no joke there, theres no reason seeing that should give someone a negative reaction...
Eternal Darkness, wouldnt call that trolling, sounds like a great gameplay mechanic. i can see it as trolling though causing people to be annoyed. 50/50 lol.
Diablo III doesnt seem much like trolling. fans said no rainbows, so they gave them a world of rainbows in which to kill all of the cuddly creatures in.
not sure how desert bus is trolling. thats how the game is. it wasnt made to annoy people.
how is the giant squid a reference to finger chopping in the original game? unless that was meant to be 2 separates in the list.
in any case, a giant squid, a reference to the original, and Ezio helping invent the latte are not messing with fans emotions... the giant squid might scare you but chances are if you are able to see it then you know it exists and are trying to see it.
listing possible locations for future games is not poking fun at fans and/or conspiracy theorist. thats saying hey, wouldnt these places also be kinda cool? and give fans something to talk about and think about. it wasnt put in there so they could laugh at the fans for thinking those might be settings or something...
for larry, i guess a number of things are unexpected but i dont really see how its trolling.
***** they say that the player is forced to brutalize a man with little to not explanation why he has to do that.
but its explained why he has to do that. they tell you during the mission why you are doing it.
it wasnt trolling at all. the tons of diving for 10 bucks was more a troll but the torture part of that mission wasnt a troll at all
sithalo " The torture sequence, it was explained as to why Trevor had to do that... There was no little to no explanation why." uhhh.... what?
djhart25 in this video. they say that the torture part of Grand Theft Auto V forced the player to torture a man with no explanation as to why the player had to torture the man and that is supposed to be a to troll at the player.
i was saying that in the game they explain why trevor had to torture him.
there was reason given. they did not just drop trevor in a room at random with him torturing a person for no reason.
saying "There was no" is saying that there was none of something.
if someone asks you to get ketchup out of the fridge and there is none one of the things you could say is "there was no ketchup"
in the video they said, there was little to no reason given as to why trevor had to torture the man.
so i was saying
There was no "little to no reason why" because the reason was stated in the mission.
sorry thats long but i hoped that cleared things up
sithalo Gotcha. Guess it was the double negative that threw me off
djhart25 i thought it was pretty clear but sorry about that.
what was the song that played in the metal gear solid 2 bit?
An ad played at 5:00
Well played video, well played
I just now saw this channel, and it hit me with some hard nostalgia, from when Gamesradar was Cheatplanet. Ugh memories.
no dark souls? especially with sens funhouse where there are a million traps and a chest that when you open eats you instead
7:52 Dessert Bus is a real Charity Game and available in GPlay i don't know if there's a pc edition
Super Mario Bros "sorry the princess is in another castle"
I love how right in the middle of taking about ET it cuts to an ad
Metro 2033 when a stripper lady asks if you want a dance. And if you follow her. A guy knocks you out and takes all of your money.
What is the song during Ghouls 'n' Ghosts?
Wait... why would you compare Ghouls and Ghosts to Castlevania Symphony of the Night??? Ghouls and Ghosts simply makes you play the game entirely over again with no changes, that's not the case with Castlevania, at all. Symphony of the Night has you continue the game, you have to re-explore the castle but it's upside down, meaning the stages aren't the same, and in fact a lot of them are pretty much new stages thanks to the well designing of the stages. There are new items, enemies and stories, offering a whole new experience rather than just having you go through the same thing again like Ghouls and Ghosts did.
I honestly don't understand why some think SotN's reverse castle feature has to do the designer being lazy How about appreciating the designers' effort in designing all the stages to work both ways? Ghouls and Ghosts is the actual game that's showing laziness, or just that they thought having the player beat a game twice is cool. How about making a game that requires beating it 90 times to get the good ending showing like a static picture with some texts? That'd make a memorably difficult game.
You forgot the pendant from Dark Souls which had the description of soothing you, while it had absolutely no effect ever in the game (which is the meanest considering the game is full of things with hidden stats and effects).
9:08 the words ASSASS stand out
The Leisure Suit Larry example could be applied to almost every Sierra adventure game, though. Sierra took sadistic glee in killing you and then mocking your corpse back in the day.
I hate this Troll in DmC -.- I want the old Dante
PichDextro How the new Dante said "Not in a million years" to the white hair seemed like a prologue to it happening to me.
Johnny Fisher
yep
PichDextro welp. guess what? both DmC and DMC are alive and well. according to the creator neither the "reboot" or the original are going to die anytime soon.and are being treated as seperate series
***** I'd only consider it worth being treated as separate if they changed the name completely to something that doesn't conflict with the original. DmC: Devil May Cry.... bit redundant. That's why I don't like reboots in the first place. If you couldn't do it right the first time, why make a new version in hopes people would like it more? It would make more sense just to move on to something different.
old Dante=best Dante
Whats the song that plays for the GTA 5 segment.
Like that was the middle finger we got from Diablo 3
You know what would REALLY get me to give Ubisoft money for an Assassin's Creed game? If they made Assassin's Creed games based on the Ashikaga Shogunate and the Summer of Love, and also made them for the Wii U. I would buy those games.
What about that troll post in Sonic Generations?
Whats the song at 7:13? Is it copyrighted?
the torture part was really not that bad at all.
The game-crash troll in Arkham Asylum is the final time you are under the influence of Scarecrow's toxin, not the first; the first is in the morgue.
Amazing video 9.9/10
secretman33 Yo Mama
What was the song at the Ghouls And Ghosts part?
Baten Kaitos should've been on this list.
but what about dark cloud 2 and its inability to save after the final boss?
I don't think D3 was a troll. That thing is expected after D2.
Make it, I know that was why they did it. Those who spazzed were idiots.
LegendStormcrow This was a lot worse than the cow level though
LegendStormcrow Yes it was. It all started when a bunch of gamers complained that the new game was "too bright and cheery" on the message boards. In response, one of the developers wore a t-shirt that showed rainbows and unicorns of a shirt with the words "diablo 3" as well. Clearly they were making fun of complaints, which was fair as the complaints were ridiculous.
The level in the game was just a reference to that controversy.
The Whimsyshire level was a joke to the non-existent "Cow Level" that players from Diablo 1 and 2 remember.
You forgott Darksouls. The whole game is trolling you.
3:04 don't you mean *LAST* time? first time the gas hits you you see a dead body and the gas makes you think it's the commissioner. then you try to contact oracle and afterwards the bodies of Bruce's parents followed by scarecrow throws you into the "escape his world" stage
The entire reward system of GTA V is trolling you! the only way to make any decent money in single player is playing the stock market!
What's the name of the song playing at the beginning of the GTA 5 segment?
I still think the DmC troll is the best fucking thing ever. considering the DMC fanbase is the whiniest bunch of motherfuckers on the planet, i loved when they did that lol the backlash was the greatest thing ever. DmC is a great game too. i liked the new Dante WAYYYYYY more than the old one. the new game felt more gritty, dark, and real compared to the older ones, which always felt like crappy, generic, anime games. really, the only Devil May Cry game i actually WANT to play these days is the new one. and considering again how well Ninja theory did with the game, and how well they did with the definitive edition, it's no lie when i say that Ninja theory's DmC is the ONLY DmC i plan on touching in the future.
Yeah too bad the game bombed so hard that Ninja Theory themselves confirmed that they've stopped working on the franchise lol. The game just sucked period. It wasn't the redesign or the fanboy backlash. It just sucked.
actually it was really good. nice try trolling though. add more dinosaurs to your argument next time.
Opinion vs fact, I'd say you're the troll here
+killmaster5038 this comment right here. I played all DMC games but 4. to me, 3 was better than the first & second one, UNTIL I played the new DMC with new Dante, he's cool, almost as cool as Dante in DMC 3. the white hair is lame, is a lame argument. his powers & weapons are better & so are the combos. I hope they keep doing more, but like you said, I'm cool with just the one.
i feel like DmC is the definitive devil may cry game. it was darker, more gritty, and more serious as well. again. its the ONLY Devil May Cry game i will probably ever stick with. the others are obsolete in my eyes.
How petty is that? people wouldnt buy the New DMC cuz of Dantes new look, it didnt bother me and turned out to be a awesome game. Even the music kicks ass, I meet and became a huge fan of Combichrist because of DMC........ I swear that has to be the most ridiculous and childish reason to not buy a game.
Yep, it's why I don't identify myself as a gamer.
Exactly people over react over the littlest things cuz just somebody tries something diffrent and wants a freash start. I dont identify myself as a gamer ither just a Metal Head/Nerd lol
DeathbyFira Ow the edge, in b4 flame war.
That wasn't the only reason I didn't buy it. I heard he was much more sexualized too. Also an a-hole in all the wrong ways. I also don't like his attitude. Then for some reason the half angel thing leaves a bad taste. Drives me crazy between it all. Meh, I'll stick with Warframe and such.
I liked it but they should have a least given you the option to change his hair to sliver then maybe he could have made little more money
New Dante does look better though.
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New Dante is very cool, i don't understand why the "fanboys" can't accept this.
New Dante looks like the long lost member of One Direction gtfo lol
+KiraGameplays
I think it's just an overflamed controversy. I think people forget it's a reboot and not canon with the lore, I'd even accept a female Dante if the story was meant to be completely detached from the original DMC universe.
My dad drives a semi truck from Tucson to Tennesse... With only about 5 hours of sleep a day, from here to there... So I have full confidence he could beat that level, it sucks because after Los Vegas. I only see my dad twice a week :(
I liked DMC Dante more... sorry.
You don't need to say sorry it's your opinion
Jason Deutschbein and... DMC is still Devil May Cry, so that's still a little bold. It's just Dante. The new one? Or the older ones?
Jason Deutschbein I like the version of Dante in Viewtiful Joe, myself.
Jason Deutschbein That game bombed so badly that it threatens Capcom's very existence...
Jason Deutschbein Which one, sorry- DMC or DmC?
anyone know the song at 8:30
Where is Half Life 3?
+kite man nnnnNOOOOO!?
when it showed the DMC entry, what did he mean by Sucker Punch changing Cole McGrath?
+5persondude If you look up the original InFamous 2 trailers Cole looked massively different from the first game, most noticeably he had hair and dark tattoos all over his arms. There was fan outrage so Sucker Punch got rid of the hair and altered the tattoos so it looked more like original Cole.
Well DmC sucked anyways
9:55 Did anyone got the SImpsons reference?
The things that occur in Leisure suit Larry were very common in text adventure games
+Fremiamagus And Leisure Suit Larry 1 itself was a version of the old Softporn Adventure game.
If they were going to include an MGS game it should have been MGS1 with the Psycho Mantis fight
Here's a really good troll for you. X-Men on 16 bits consoles. (I played the genesis version, expect others were the same)
No save mecanics.
VERY hard levels.
Once you beat the "last" boss, you the screen goes black, a bunch of green binary flashes and you are left with a single message on screen telling you to reset the computer. It just hangs there, until you press reset on the console. This "reboots the computer" and gets you to the final level. This was before the age of the internet, so you couldn't just look up what was going on. Pressing that button the first time you think you figured it out is a nerve shaking experience.
The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time, Beating the water temple but Zora´s domain is still frozen before you do so.
Super Mario Sunshine, Collecting al the blue coins and shine sprites just to get a render of all the characters saying "Have a relaxing vacation".
Mortal Kombat 9, Having a screamer inside the krypt.
what system was that leisure suit Larry game for ?
PS2
+Doctor Nefarious thanks
+Jordan Muhammad Sorry the PS2 was a sequel to the one the list. I didn't finish the video before making that comment.
So ps1?
Computers, it got a DOS, MacOS, Commodore (from memory), etc release. Also if you bought a condom from the convenience store the prostitute wasn't a death sentence. It got a VGA graphics point & click release later as well. Still DOS (though it'd work in Windows 3.11 and 95 with a bit of hair pulling).
X-Men for Sega Genesis tells you that in order to beat the Time Crunch (Mojo's stage), you have to "reset the computer." You are given a time limit to complete that stage (the only level this happens) and it's the 2nd to last stage in the game. When you beat Mojo and end up in the final room, there is a computer panel that appears on screen. Your character smashes it and it explodes, but the timer continues and your player cannot scroll the screen in either direction, you are stuck there while Prof X appears on some monitors imploring you to reset the computer, which you think you already did. When the clock runs out, you don't just lose a life. It's game over, as in, start from the beginning! The solution? Reset the Computer = Reset the Genesis. Instead of the title screen, binary code covers the screen and leads into the final cutscene to set up the final stage. Needed to look online for that one. Now that's trolling the player.
at 10:58 it say "the clerk does not take kindly to your shoplifting" i am not surprised if matt and trey played this game
The explanation for why we tortured the guy was to show us that torture is useless as a means to get information, dude told you what he thought you wanted to hear, we arent even sure if the information we got was valid. Thats the point of the mission. I guess its hard to see a positive live lesson come from a game like gta.
you guys should list the games in the description
Imagine people returning the game stating that the game doesn't work anymore. Then the game ends up being recalled.
Since you brought up MGS 2, you should have included the ending of the game where the game completely spasses out and the Colonel says all kinds of weird ass things. First time I went through that part, I switched off my console because I thought it was broken. One of the best game trolling moments imo. :D
Lol when you said that 3:06 youtube crashed for me!! best timing in everything ever!!! XD
Disgaea 4 has 4 final episodes. And in episode 7 (the first "final" episode), there is a scene where fenrich pretends he is dying.
San Andreas, work through endless amount of missions, fail to blow up or helicopter (I can barely remember) lose all of your weapons. I'm sure this happens a few times?
how does the squid easter egg reference that chopping thing
The Batman one is actually the last time you encounter Scarecrow and his gas in the game. You still don't expect it though.
That comparison of beat the game again to SOTN is an oversimplification of the inverted castle.
That part about Batman Arkham Asylum is so true. I was so stupid, I actually went back to the GameStop and received a new copy since I thought the first one was broken.
song at 8:30?
I'm surprised that you guys mentioned MGS:2 but left out the parts near the end when you're being told to turn your system off and so on. lol
sad about the DMC sales, its actually a good game. the fighting, bosses, and story are still fun and enjoyable. people need to let go of their history problem (and im a big dmc fan)
Thing about DMC Devil May Cry is
They HAD to change his look massively. Capcom made them. The Wig was more of a nod towards the older fans, than trolling them, imo.
Also anyone who finished the game can easily tell that it was meant to tie in to the original games, to a fairly high extent.
I completely forgot about Eternal Darkness! I was 11 when I watched my uncle play that game and it freaked me the hell out!
I wasn't alive when leisure suit Larry came out
Kid Icarus Uprising would be great on this list.
A funny little troll in Mass Effect 3 (apart from the endings), is when you meet Conrad Verner again. If you keep talking to him, he references some of the comments leading up to Mass Effect 2's release, concerning the switch from weapons cooling down to using thermal clips. he also references some players shorts attentionspans, when he asks the same question twice! Last but not least; Conrad offers to help you, but to complete his "mission" you need to have done a specific mission for Gavin Hussle in Mass Effect 1, have a specific weapons license AND complete the ME1 mission to collect matriarch writings. Do all this, and the game rewards you with a war asset worth 5 points...
o___o
Oddly enough, I'm probably one of the few players that thought the DMC troll was pretty hilarious because it played on the usual snarky attitude Dante has. I still say they did pretty good with DMC as a different vision.
I think people are failing to see that the backlash with Dante has to do with the change in personality, and the change in role. He went from being a cheesy, lovable character into a 13 year old's power fantasy. That is what the backlash was about. Character design didn't even factor in... inb4 Devil May Cry 2.
The Stanley Parable for sure does the best job at trolling the player, and yet I don't see any other mention of it in the comments...
What about Neir? Neir definitely deserves a spot on this list, or a list similar to this. or was it not popular enough?
Well in Neir there are 3 secret endings and after unlocking the third secret ending the game asks you to input your character name, and doing so deletes all memory of the Neir save files existing on your system
Final fantasy XIV:ARR trolls their players on purpose during the relic quest line. (relics are weapons that take a looong time and a lot of money to upgrade) towards the end of the quest line the chat log says that one step will only have a 1.4% percent chance to succeed, and if it fails you will have to start the whole thing again. In reality it's a 100% chance of success... The NPC dialogue even goes along with this troll. T^T
You start to doubt yourself "Maybe everyone else I see with the relic was just lucky, what if I'M the one that gets screwed?"
if you look at dante's back in dmc, the tattoo glowing looks a lot like the symbol of either the avatar or canalletto in the Oban star racers anime
The Arkham Asylum game crash sequence never happened to me.
The scarecrow thing was the third time scarecrow infected bats...
What's the name of the song in GTA 5 part ?
Wait.. how is the squid easter egg a reference to the finger chopping in the first game?
I actually didn't mind Dante's new look all that much in the reboot. I didn't see him as the original Dante though, more like a ancestor with the same name.
Whats the Ghouls n' Ghosts song?
+dirtbikesrule15 I really want to know!! That song slaps!